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June 27, 2004

Greens Spurn Nader

The Green Party has rejected Ralph Nader as their candidate, instead picking Texas attorney David Cobb. Nader still has his endorsement from the Reform Party — founded by Ross Perot in 1992 and garnered more than 19 million votes, but has recently languished, with Pat Buchanan only receiving 1% in the 2000 presidential race.

The rejection from the Green Party will continue to diminish Nader’s chances for getting ballot access — already a short list — in states other than: Colorado, Kansas, Mississippi, Montana, South Carolina, Florida and Michigan. Nader refuses to throw in the towel, even while his campaign flounders and he asks supporters to vote for Kerry in swing states.

Posted by Stephen VanDyke at June 27, 2004 08:26 PM
Comments
Comment #17417

Stephen,

It will be interesting to me how those percentages of Nader supporters in national polls, and more importantly, the media will react to this news.

Fast forward to election eve, and I wondered what percentage of Nader voters would know for sure if he would be on their ballot, the next day?

Just as Bubba’s book somehow negatively impacts John Kerry, the media has been pushing the ‘Nader as spoiler’ story. Will they now fess up to the ‘devil in the details’, and maybe kill the story, or ‘play dumb’, and continue to fill air time?

Posted by: Bert M. Caradine at June 27, 2004 09:01 PM
Comment #17421

The Republican party, Karl Rove and his operatives have mastered the fine art of manipulating the media to only report on issues that help or don’t hurt the Bush re-election campaign.

The media’s modus operandi is to report what’s fed them on a silver platter, and when they “get out of line” their access to Bush and Administration is taken away.

Journalism used to be ojective and unbiased. These days, you’re lucky if you even get both sides of an issue.

The Nader factor is one that helps the Bush campaign, and is one of the reasons for the over-reporting of it. I mean, it’s a slow news week. There’s no wardrobe malfunction or recent Mel Gibson movie to dominate the headlines, so the media goes to the next best story. For the Bush campaign to release the Hitler video on the same day as Michael Moore’s new movie is a sign of desperation. Rove must be throwing a tantrum because the media isn’t bending to his will the way he wants it to.

Posted by: Cameron Barrett at June 27, 2004 10:44 PM
Comment #17428

“The Republican party, Karl Rove and his operatives have mastered the fine art of manipulating the media to only report on issues that help or don’t hurt the Bush re-election campaign.”

Wow. Now that is a truly original thought.

Rove must be up to something too clever by half if he’s manipulating the media into its obsessive reporting about the actions of a few in Abu-Ghraib.

I wonder why Rove has made the media bury the absolutely amazing string of good economic numbers? I wonder why every article written about John Kerry is a puff piece?

Jeez, I wonder why Karl Rove makes the media ignore our triumphs in Iraq and report only the bad news, no matter how minor. He must have something truly brilliant and evil up his sleeve.

Posted by: Martin at June 27, 2004 11:25 PM
Comment #17493

Cameron,

The Republican party, Karl Rove and his operatives have mastered the fine art of manipulating the media to only report on issues that help or don’t hurt the Bush re-election campaign.

Uhm, and so Abu Ghraib “helped” the Bush administration? I don’t follow. Come to think of it, IT doesn’t follow. Non-sequitur maximus.

Journalism used to be ojective and unbiased. These days, you’re lucky if you even get both sides of an issue.

If you “even” got both sides of an issue, then the journalism in question would by definition be objective and unbiased. One of the bigger issues behind this is that objectivity can be lost not only on how individual stories are reported, but also in the selection criteriae of what stories ARE reported (or not). The latter form of ideological gerrymandering is less apparent as “bias” to an easily-duped public.

There’s no wardrobe malfunction or recent Mel Gibson movie to dominate the headlines, so the media goes to the next best story

Yeah, Farenheidt 9/11. That’s some Republican media conspiracy for you there. *smirk*

For the Bush campaign to release the Hitler video on the same day as Michael Moore’s new movie

Actually they linked TO the Hitler video, from moveon.org. It was one of Soros’ ersatz gems and all Bush had to do to discredit it, was to show it, in all its “glory”, with a preface of “Coalition of the Wild-eyed”. The irony is that it cost moveon.org a lot of bandwidth, so the petard was doubly self-hoisted for them.

Martin:


absolutely amazing string of good economic numbers

Positive yes, but I’d reign in the rhetoric from “absolutely amazing”. We’ve yet to see an emergence of the same sort of competition for hiring that we saw in the dot-com boom, and in spite of an increased rate of hiring people, businesses still hold all the cards when they open up a position and they get 150 candidates for it. I have three unemployed white collar friends who are still falling short of being the last “survivor” candidate when such positions in their field open up.

Posted by: Ciggy at June 28, 2004 09:27 AM
Comment #17590

What the Green Party doesn’t understand is they are only hurting themselves by not endorsing Nader. I would agree with the Greens that Nader isn’t the best candidate for the party, but he still the strongest independent candidate out there.

If the Greens really wanted change they would endorse Nader, which would bring legitimacy and exposure to the strongest of the third parties. Without such a strong candidate to spearhead the party’s message, I’m afraid the Greens may slip into oblivion along with the Reformers and Libertarians.

David Cobb huh? Green Party, it was nice knowing you.

Posted by: Stephen F. at June 29, 2004 04:12 PM
Comment #27752

We have a defcon 6 crisis with Kerry staring at a cloud in the debate auditorium. He actually created the d(^(*&*( thing with the ego-ego-ego 3d machine he has used to change his mind 45 times a day like a female has electrodes in his head.
Me and My American and hispanic friends support the “bushmon”, President George Bush
Junior for another term in office. We must make sure as we can that President Bush wins, and not
Sting, Michael moore, or Linda Rondstadt.

Thank you and have an easy day for all those who oppose “kerry’s” Nazi Assault on the American
Executive branch so he can revive all those Vietnam Rackets that made the democrats lose the
first half of the war. Well?
Maybe not Nazi, after all, More like the
slaughterhouse for the United States courtesy of
the Red Chinese (the big china) if Senator Kerry
gets elected. Believe me, President Wannabe John
Kerry Senator is CAPABLE OF ANYTHING! DANGER!

Posted by: Haal eno at October 1, 2004 05:19 PM