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It seems as if everyone who is in the races for some type of office do dirty campaigning. So for the Bush campaign to try it is not anything new in my book. It is disgusting though how our candidates have to stoop so low and make up things or even talk so bad about the other person, but it has just become a part of the run for any office.

I beleive this leak came from the Kerry Campaign. Every democrat is trying to link himself to the Clinton legacy and this is absolutely the best way to do it.

Sol. Your pushing a “theory”, even if plausible, is as bad as Dean’s theory on 9/11 and anything Rove has done in the past. Man I’d hate to be Rove, because any kind of rumor or theory immediately gets pinned on him. Before Rove it was Lee Atwater who was the man behind the Republican’s dirty tricks committee.

If I were Kerry I’d be looking at the Boston Globe and the Boston Herald. These guys have been all over him the last couple of days and it seems they have guys with axes to grind. We’ll see how the “Who do you think I am” phrase sticks.

George: I realize that posting this would raise a few hackles and immediately make it appear that I am doing nothing more than propogating a rumor. However, in my defense, I believe that regardless of whether I post this or not, it is big news and will be a very large topic next week, thus it was my responsibility to post it. Even if it is a rumor (that Time magazine will be running next week).

If it is a political move, it’s the worse possible for Bush, ostensibly a reformed sinner, especially if a) it’s not true, or b)its something Kerry answers right off the bat, and spins into looking like an intrusion into an issue that had already been resolved within the family. With a divorce rate as high as ours, people are not that quick to censure people for marital troubles anymore.

Personally, I’m not sure we can find any candidate without skeletons in his closet.

And as for breaking the story here- I don’t want this place to become a rumor mill, where people just start things to stir up speculation. I much prefer to let this place be a forum for opinions about the news, not a news page itself. We need that kind of reputation like we need a collective hole in the head.

No problem Sol. I just don’t see why Rove gets all of the credit, uh blame, for this stuff. Give NewsMax or Demacrats.com a little pub too. Drudge, Michael Moore…….. depending on who is getting slimed.

What’s the deal with “The New Soldier”? I see on Amazon it can’t be ordered, and a few sites are posting the cover picture. Is it that bad of a read or just another scandel attempt?

Steven:

the media will have a field day with this if it has any legs to stand on. Why? Cause affairs make great news! Cause they can say he’s a liberal home-wrecker who is unAmerican and doesn’t even respect the sanctity of marriage!

Forget that Bush was a coke-head, forget that he had several DUI’s, that’s in the past…..

But oooh oooh….look at what Kerry did years ago…see, HIS past matters! Mine doesn’t! I was a scamp…..He will ruin America and steal your daughters!

what’s sad is that I can see this coming……just turn on Fox news….

I’ve lived through enough of the internet age to know that context matters, and so far I don’t have an once of context to decide this by, if it even exists to have context.

This isn’t on the Drudge Report, which carries any rumor worth repeating.

I don’t understand how you shift so easily from a TIME rumor to blaming Republicans.

For the sake of argument let us suggest that Republicans wanted to make up such a rumor (assuming also for the sake of argument that the allegations are not in fact true.) Why would this happen now? If such a rumor could be plausibly persued against Kerry why do it before the nomination? Such a Republican partisan would hope for Kerry’s nomination and then unleash it when it would promise his defeat.

They wouldn’t do it during the primary. The logical conclusion is that one of the other Democratic candidates would release such a rumor. They can gain by the rumor coming out now, Republicans would (according to this argument) gain only by waiting.

I think, Sebastian, that people might be forgiven for thinking the party that impeached a president for lying about his infidelity might try and paint another threatening Democrat with the same brush.

Of course, until I see this in a real newspaper or publication, I will resign myself to a curious skepticism of all claims concerned.

Well, actually they impeached him for purgery….

but yes, the GOP and RNC will, as Stephen put it, paint this Dem with the same brush…because they have a very limited palette. They use what works….and they absolutely will do whatever they can to smear Kerry, but keep the President distanced from the mucky-muck…so he appears above the dirty politics.

Thank you Rob for that clarification.

“I think, Sebastian, that people might be forgiven for thinking the party that impeached a president for lying about his infidelity might try and paint another threatening Democrat with the same brush.”

Nope you can’t be forgiven for that in this instance. You are positing a case where the Republicans would be doing it WITH NO GAIN FOR THEMSELVES AT ALL. If they could successfully hit Kerry with this charge, they would wait until he sewn up the nomination and then hit him with it. If they do it now, they knock him out of the primary and someone who they don’t have such dirt on is the nominee. That would be stupid of Republicans. Only one of his Democratic opponents would have a reason to hit him with it before the Democratic convention. This theory is blaming Republicans in favor of far more likely candidates.

Sebastian, your reasoning won me over on this one. It would indeed be foolish to play the hand before all the money is in one pot.

Hypothetically speaking, the reason you would hit now would be to disrupt the momentum of the consensus candidate, and to disrupt Democrat campaign strategy. Wait ‘til he’s nominated, and it just looks like Monicagate Redux. Do it now and it’s Gary Hart.

And yes, Sebastian, we can be forgiven for thinking Republicans would used sex-oriented smear tactics given the near constant-discussion of Clinton’s peccadilloes during his two terms in office. It’s a favorite family values point with the Religious Right. (Boy would I like to see that group decide who gets to cast the first stone.)

To immediately blame the Bush administration is absurd. There is no evidence the leak came from the Bush camp. In fact, it seems the other candidates knew about the rumors.
If it is true, it does matter. how can a man be trusted if he can not keep the most important promise he made. Kerry’s infidelity, if true, goes to the heart of who he is and his true character. We have good choices on both sides of the aisle. We do not need another adulterer. Especially one who was involved with the affair until he started his campaign.
America deerves better than an immoral liar as president.

Looks like it is on Drudge now….well done watchblog.com, keep up the good work!

The republicans will stoop to any level to discredit Kerry. And Rush whining about it… lol that coming from a recovering drug addict.

Looks as if somebody leaked this to Dean first … about the time he started to implode. It appears to leave Edwards and — Hillary? Now, who would want THAT? Bubba strikes again.

Kinda tough on the libs. Their heroes just can’t stay on track.

Character flaw?

I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN!!!!!!!!!

Oh yea, I forgot - it was just sex and it is nobody’s business.

Damn elephants - its all their fault.

Looks like this would be a good opportunity for Al Sharpton. He represents all that is good in the Democratic party.

“America desreves better than an immoral liar as president.”

Which is exactly why Bush should go…

what’s worse than the fact that media in general will not present truth about Kerry or any democrat. kerry has demonstated a propensity to outright lie and make up rationalizations to defend his life of failure. if kerry gave up an affair to run for president, then, that is another example of his personal and political failures.

reasonable standards of accruacy in media would have prevented bill clinton from becoming a discredited president who caused the nation great harm in many ways of policy, politics and decency.

Lee

I believe that it is too early for pointing fingers and like others have said it would not be wise for the Republican Party to leak this now! After Mr Kerry got the nomination would be the best time to release it! But irregardless, if it is true then we would need to decide whether or not we would want a man with that kind of moral standings as our president (again). Or would we want to re elect a man who has done exactly what he has said he was going to do. I know my choice.

To Rob: Get a clue. First Rob, there were never several DUI’s and where are facts you posses to claim that Bush is a coke head? Use your mind and not your idiotic rhetoric to make a point. Keep trying to push your left wing liberal garbage. In the end Bush will prevail. You assume the Republicans put this out. Again where is the proof? I can make up my own rhetoric. For example It could be said that a former president and his wife are responsibe for the leak. You know, those clean living moral pillars of the community Bill and Hillary. They want Clark in there so they can have a guaranteed loser in the presedential race againsy Bush this year. That would sure make it easier for Hillary to run against a republican nominee in 2008 rather than a sitting democratic incumbent. Makes you think huh.
What this country does not need is another liar and president committing adultry in office. This was embarrassing to this Country and made us the laughing stock of the world. Go ahead and say his personal life has nothing to do with running the country. I love that worthless outdated excuse. It does matter in the political arena. This country is imploding from secular views, judges who make decisions on their own interpretation of the law instead of what the law of the land is. It’s people like you who base there beliefs on pure hate of the president rather than an understanding of the issues. I don’t agree with the Presidents immigration policy, Gay marriage ban, NRA stance, or spending money on space exploration at this time. I do agree with his policy to rid the world of terrorists and will get my vote. I came to my conclusions from listening to all sides of an argument and made my own mind. Why dont you try doing the same.

Remember what Churchill once said
” If you’re 20 and conservative you have no heart, if you’re 40 and a liberal you have no brain.”

Mike

Let’s repeal the 22nd Amendment so Bill Clinton can run again … after all, he was neither immoral nor a liar, RIGHT?

Ha. Kerry affair has become news and it came from his Democratic rivals. Can you say Sharpton 04?

I agree that it is plausible that this could be a republican leak or even as they say a “Rove Tactic”, but somewhere deep down inside me, something keeps nagging at me every time I see Dean. He strikes me as someone who is hiding deep issues, one of which is his extreme need to win, therfore I have a gut feeling this has come from the Dean camp. If not Dean and his direct staff, at least one of those so called “Army of Deaniacs”. It would be very easy for Dean to do this and claim “It is the republicans” in order to knock Kerry out of his way.

I agree that it is plausible that this could be a republican leak or even as they say a “Rove Tactic”, but somewhere deep down inside me, something keeps nagging at me every time I see Dean. He strikes me as someone who is hiding deep issues, one of which is his extreme need to win, therfore I have a gut feeling this has come from the Dean camp. If not Dean and his direct staff, at least one of those so called “Army of Deaniacs”. It would be very easy for Dean to do this and claim “It is the republicans” in order to knock Kerry out of his way.

This is totally from Clinton himself. It not only repairs (somewhat) his legacy so he’s not the only one with such issues - see other candidates cheat too…

Also by taking Kerry out the deal is ensured Bush wins in ‘04 setting up Hillary in ‘08.

They are all dirty leaves on the same tree. Anyone without dirt isn’t allowed in the garden. I’m with the disenfranchised.

Why would anyone assume this would come out of the Bush camp??? Surely, if Rove had this information, and we can assume he had heard the rumors too, he would have waited until this summer at the earliest to release it.

This is coming from inside the Kerry campaign. Might be the best thing to ever happen to John Edwards, well, besides going up against Loch Faircloth in 1998.

You liberals drive me crazy. What a double standard you all display. Clinton’s draft dodging during Viet Nam went virtually unreported over the news and you all passed it off as no big deal. And even as records proved Bush served his time, you and the national liberal media continue to drag him through the mud. If this Kerry thing is true, just go ahead and think it’s no big deal. You all have pushed morality out the door over the past decade and those of us who still have standards will be heard at the voting booths. Bush is the right man for the job right now. Could you imagine if Gore was in office the past 4 years? Every civilian would be armed with rifles fending off terrorists. Be honest with yourself. *stepping off my soap box*

Any guess as to when or if the “mainstream” media will report the Kerry sleaze story?

Rumors are nothing. Proof is everything. Where’s the proof. Stop the rumors.

There was proof that Clinton had sex and lied under oath and obstructed justice. Thus he was impeached.

Kerry should not buckle. He should simply deny it if its untrue or confess it to avoid embarassment should proof come later following a lie. Those who spread the rumor should be dealt with severely.

I support Bush 80-90% for what he has done in office.

Reality Check: The tickets will be Hillary/Gen. Clark vs. Bush/Rudy!!!

It’ll get play tonight, too many people read Matt Drudge.

Mike,

Why are you so angry my man? relax. Bush an liar? what is Kerry? He is a neo-liberal who flip flops on issue after issue. He can’t say what he truly wants to say, so he continues to ride the fence. He continually bashes Bush b/c he can’t talk about policy. “GW Bush has lost 2.2 M jobs under his watch” Ok Johnny, what the hell will you do to create jobs. A highway bill? Yeah, laying asphalt is a great career. Please, one of you stinking democrats lay out a coherent arguement as to what a Dem will do to create jobs? No angry rhetoric please, just bullet points. Also, since tax and spenders are so pissed about the deficit, what would you do besides raising taxes to balance the budget? Cut spending on your precious entitlements? Bush cuts growth on your caring programs and gets bashed either way. Don’t forget, the economy balanced the budget under Clinton, not Clinton. Internet boom was a crazy time and unparelled wealth changed hands, so give me a good bullet list.
Oh, one more question. Would you rather pay $500 a month in bills with a $1000 income, or pay $1000 in bills with a $2500 income? Please someone answer me honestly. Record deficit number? Wake up and do your fractions. Oh wait, I forgot, the liberal view is not whether you get the right answer to a math problem, but whether or not you tried.

It seems as though Kerry has a penchant for wealthy, cold women. After divorcing another mega-millionaire, he marries the Heinz heiress. I’m certain it’s all for love, however. He muzzled Mrs. Heinz-Kerry early in the campaign when she was speaking out of turn in some interviews and she hasn’t been heard from since. I will reserve judgement until the facts and the story come out in full, but I find the whole cheating scenario very plausible after Kerry served in the Vietnam war and then disavowed it. He has veen vacillating on issues since that time. Why not infidelity in marriage also? Well, if politics doesn’t work out for Kerry, he would make a great spokesman for Cialis.

Its funny that you democrats are sitting there whining about this rumor has been created by the republicans.This rumor was created by Wes Clark saying off the record to 12 reporters that Sen Kerry has an intern problem. For anyone who doesnt know, Clark is Clintons boy. Why would the clintons benifit from kerry imploding? I can answer that in one sentence……Hillary in 2008. The Clintons for 8 years acted only with there own interests at heart ,not there party and certainly not the country.I fail to see why anyone should be surprised at this.

I don’t really like either the democrat or the republican party. However, I find it a sham that sainthood seems to be more important for being president than honesty and acting legally in your public life. If they look hard enough, they can pin something on anyone - nobody’s perfect; everybody sins. Yet, get a blowjob, get impeached. The best liars (the ones that don’t have their personal scandals revealed) win! But if they break the law and circumvent congressional authority, arm terrorists, and illegally fund drug traffic and assasinations (Iran-Contra); or avoid service by using daddy’s connections to get into the national guard and furthermore go AWOL during Vietnam, then send thousands of troops to die in the middle east on fake “evidence” of WMD that scares America into a war so they can really help their special interest buddies in the oil business and at Haliburton make millions (totally corrupt!), there is no impeachment.

“site” instaed of sight. “Does” instead of do. Better learn to write before you slander without evidence.

Editor: I have corrected the mistakes, thank you for your observation

Makes no sense for Repubs to drop this bomb. Clearly comes from Democrat camp. Clark said it would come out. How did he know. And just ask who gains by this? Hillary, perhaps?

I have to agree with some of the other posts. Karl Rove would use this push poll tactic only after Kerry got the nomination. It’s my bet it was the Dean camp that leaked this story. And, if true, it makes Al Gore look smart for backing Dean and not Kerry, whose reported link to Jane Fonda in the ant-war movement will ultimately dilute his support from the Viet Nam veterans.

No matter who’s responsible, Bill for Hillary in 2008 or the Dean Team, the outcome will be the same —– a major torpedo in the Kerry candidacy. The democrats will have no one to blame but themselves. By failing to mind their own store, instead of attacking President Bush on terrorism, Iraq, taxes, the deficit and his National Guard duty, they’ve set the stage for his re-election.

The media may prove again to be hypocrital. Apparently they all knew about Kerry’s affair and like Strom Thurman’s child, Clinton’s affairs (especially Jennifer Flowers)chose not to report it. (Kerry was nailed by his girlfriend’s friend, who apparently has letters). Finally a young person fed up with the lies we are being fed and decided to show his true colors—many more to come I’m afraid. And I wanted to vote for the guy, how do you feel? Now Dean better run as Independant….please !!!

The media claims it has a right to know everything but they only report what they want us to know. Freedom of information only for those with a press pass. Wake up youngsters, they are brainwashing you.

Some may say big deal, it’s just sex (no proof the Chinese blackmailed Clinton into giving them Loral’s rocket technology in return for keeping the Monica thing quiet…..and no proof Sadam blackmailed Clinton to ignore intelligence warnings about 9/11 to keep the Monica thing quiet…..but you may see my point about a person in power that can be blackmailed for any little reason—it was a big deal to him if he was caught)

My problem with Kerry is not womanizing, although that says a lot about him. My problem with him is that he made numerous speeches in the Senate and elsewhere regarding the need for Sadaam to be deposed and the regime changed, to be held to account for his decade of broken promises, for taking seriously his capability to produce and disperse wmd’s for the use of terrorist organizations, and in general taking him out before he makes it possible for someone to take US out. Now, because he wants the nomination, he has jumped on the trendy bandwagon of Bush-hating, accusations of lies from the White House to justify war, and a santimonious attitude toward anyone who wasn’t wading through the swamps in View Nam. How many months was he there…four? And what did he do when he got back? Threw his “medals” over the fence and fraternized with the hippies and malcontents who were protesting the war. By the way, he didn’t sleep on the mall as he indicated he did. He was living in a townhouse in Washington during that time, and his real medals are up on his wall in his office.

I don’t expect perfection from a candidate. I do expect genuineness, honesty, and sticking to ones principals no matter how unpopular. This guy is just another Clinton type who goes the way the wind blows in order to gain power. Bush is consistent in all of the ways that matter and is trustworthy. He feels strongly that his administration has been commissioned to keep the country safe, and he will do that to the best of his ability even if it means only one term because the war has become unpopular. He has my vote.

Americans have notoriously short memories. Sadaam was given ample time to come clean and be a credible leader, allaying our fears after a horrendous attack on New York. He did not. Intelligence, which is never an exact science, indicated that we could not wait and hope that he was blowing smoke. Experience told us that he was sly and dishonest and had no follow-through on promises. Infiltration and access to Iraq’s inner circles was not there for us…What would you have done? Turned a blind eye and hoped that everything would turn out fine? That didn’t work in the 90’s, did it? When we did attack Iraq, it was with the most surgical strikes possible and with minimal civilian damage. Please understand this: many of the attacks on conservatives at the present time are not well thought out statements of political disagreement. They are an all out, dishonest wave of hatred and character assassination intended to regain power in Washington. Don’t be fooled, and don’t accept soundbite information. Do your homework.

Hey John 1:46 pm, see Ronald’s post at 2:17pm
That’s why it matters. Plus, if Bush is AWOL, Kerry is getting a divorce. We don’t need proof, just a rumor from Moveon.org Great way to inform yourself. Garbage in - garbage out my friend. Stop reading James Carvel, Michael Moore & Al Franken. Inform yourself, don’t let them think for you. Read what Bush said during his “lie”. Then you will be educated. Imagine that, an American educated.

I enjoy watching the liberals turn over in their own pile of *^*&% when something comes out about their own; especially when they won’t/can’t admit it very well may be put out by their own party (read as “Clinton’s”) for a purely personal power grab.

Unfortunately as well, the media is more than willing to play this game by waiting for “conservatives to voice” something so it can carry the negative dogma they desire to allow their double standards to hold water.

Eventually all this will come to pass, Kerry will be neutered by his wife (albeit in private), and the next wealthy woman (maybe an intern?) will succumb to the Kerry spell helping him gain yet more wealth. Then he can continue to spread yet another version of a new or old story know the media will eat it all up (as long as it serves their purposes — or maybe the Clinton’s purpose).

Why would the Republicans to leak a rumor during the primaries? Kerry is the only Democrat they are afraid of. He’s neck and neck with Bush in the polls. He’s ELECTABLE. They’d love to see him out and run against Edwards or Dean. when was the last time you read the names Dean, Edwards, (or Bush for that matter) in the same sentance as the word “electable”? what rumor are we talking about anyway?

It’s astounding how much passionate opinion can crystalize around a mere rumor.

Incidentally, the story I heard about the SC Push polls-from people who worked for McCain- was that they were funded not by Rove but by Christian activist candidate Gary Bauer. These guys are conservative activists, their problem was not with the allegations- well within the traditional nastiness limits of SC racial politics- but with McCain’s intemperate response.

This story was all over Limbaugh this afternoon. Within seconds of chortling over allegations of the Kerry affair, he was indignant about the rumors that George W. has skipped out on his National Guard duties.

“These Democrats know they need a scandal to win,” he fumed, with no sense of irony.

A typical true poll involves a sample size of about 700 - 1000 people. Would a “push poll” work with so few people? Wouldn’t a whole “steamroom” full of “pollsters” be needed just to call enough people for the trick to be effective? Aren’t there cheaper and safer ways to start rumors? I smell an urban legend here.

Katy,

Kerry? Electable? You’re joking, right? So, Kerry is “neck and neck” with Bush in the polls right now. Big deal - that’s mostly because to the general electorate, he’s a cipher, and they can project whatever image they want onto him. The real question is, where was the incumbent at this stage of the game last election? I’ll tell you - at this stage in 2000, Bush had a 19% lead over Gore - point being, that was his high-water mark against Gore.

Likewise, “neck and neck” with Bush In February of the election year is Kerry’s high water mark. It’s nothing but downhill from here. Rove knows that. He’s not stupid enough to waste a bullet like this one this early in the campaign. Waiting until later would maximize its effect for Repubs.

This is a Democratic inside job.

Didnt work against Arnold. I think people are becoming more leary of accusations until they are proven.

It seems to me that (atleast of 2-12-04) this is leak purported by the republican party….who DOES view Kerry as a threat. If this scandal gets as big as I think it will, then “moral elecatability” will become a big issue ala Clinton. If Kerry’s wife sticks by his side, he might have a shot, but if she leaves him in a large public manner….well then it will all become an issue of morality….can America throw it’s support behind an alleged/admitted adulturer again? Maybe so…..

This is NOT a Rove rumor. It in all likelihood comes from Chris LeHane, Kerry’s former campaign manager. Rove would never do this now, when it would be most effective in summer. Besides, Rove knows such a tactic would turn against him instantly. This is from the Dem camp. You watch.

Ha ha ha, some of you dyed-in-the-wool Democrats don’t think that other Democrats would leak this sort of stuff - you instantly blame Republicans without any proof.

From the “Get A Clue” department: it’s primary/caucus season - the Democrats are trying to nominate somebody to run against Bush. There’s a lot of competition and a lot at stake. ANYTHING than can be used WILL be used in order to make the other candidate look bad.

I can assure you that the information was linked from DeHane.

Promise.

Don’t blame (or thank) the Republicans for this, thank the Clintons. They ‘floated’ this rumour via Wes Clark in a last-ditch attempt to get Kerry out of the race, and it seems that Time has taken the bait. The Clintons want a pushover (like Dean or Clark) in office whom Hillary has a chance of beating in four years, or Bush, whose time will simply be up. Kerry’s not under their sphere of influence, so they’re deathly afraid of running against him, given the fact that he has experience and isn’t completely insane.

Brian, I think you are ight. DeHane is a dirty tricks specialist, recently fired by Kerry when he thought he didn’t need to fight dirty anymore. From what I understand, this DeHane would spread rumors on hgis own mother if he thought he could benefit from it…

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If this is true, it is hardly an earth shattering blow for anyone who cared to know of Kerry’s proclivities over the years. Clinton famously denounced the double-standard that let Kerry hound-dog to his heart’s content. The problem, I think, is the weakness of the Dem bench. Spend decades furthering a politics of vapidity with no principle save to retain power and your ranks of elder statesmen will be overpopulated with vapid, self-serving nullities like Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle, Clinton, Gephardt, Lieberman, Gore, Rodham-Clinton, Sharpton, Rangel, Braun, Edwards… I’m blankin’ but sense a bottomless reserve.

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Funny that people cite Rove and Atwater but don’t remember the name Lehane and Carville. Carville makes Rove looks like a baby. Same for Lehane. I love the humor in the idea that only the GOP plays dirty tricks. It is as if the “dirty trick” gene only appears in conversvative thought! How silly.

I am a Democrat who endured eight years of Clinton’s philandering and lying. Not again will I vote for a Democrat, or any candidate for that matter, who lies to a camera and carries on secret affairs that could become an issue. Clinton ruined this country because of his lies, and we cannot have another Clinton-clone.

If this story about Kerry is true, me, my friends, and my family will either vote Republican or stay home.

NO MORE CLINTONISM IN POLITICS!

Jason Sheppard

This is a Clinton hit, pure and simple. When it became clear that W. Clark had failed in his campaign, it was necessary to hit below the belt.

Clark knew all about it over a week ago, and bragged about it to reporters.

Typical.

The news is reporting that Dean was set to bow out until he heard the story on Kerry, and then decided to stay in.

Kerry is finished if this is true. It is Thomas Eagleton all over again.

Damn, my party sucks.

Jason Sheppard

Has this been substantiated enough to make the news? If so, where?

Is it making the news as a rumored affair? or a journalistic or political attack? Has anyone a url to a real news site? not Drudge?

The reason the reps are doing this now is to change the subject. Bush has two or three issues that they are hounding him with now, and he needs the attention turned somewhere else to re-group.

Be of good cheer, Jason. Party affiliation is not genetic.

I have no idea if the rumour is true, but the source of the “hit” if not generated by reporters is clearly Lehane. One, he knows Kerry very well and is bitter (former campaign manager-fired); two, that’s his MO (his nickname is the Master of Disaster); three, already democratic operatives are fingering him (see Drudge/Congressional Quarterly); and four, Clark was the source of the rumour (again Drudge, Lehane was Clark’s campaign manager).
It would have been profoundly stupid for Rove to have done this. You may not like Rove but few think he’s a dummy. This stink bomb should have been held onto for max effect later. E.g. Bush DUI, which BTW many believe was done by none other than Portland lawyer, former Kennebunkport citizen, former Gore press secretary—Chris Lehane.

Forget the Machiavellian subtext to the release of information about Kerry’s possible affair.
A rich, energetic, and powerful married man might have had an affair.
This man wants to be the leader of the most powerful nation on the planet.
It was bound and determined to come out.

If this is true, the questions we should be asking are:

What does this show about the character of a possible leader of the free world?
Is this our business, and if so what weight should it have in our decision to elect him?
Is this a moral defect that should exempt him from the job some think he could do well?
Does this alleged lapse in his private life show any parallels to his public one?

I for one am tired of elitist, morally bankrupt, professional politicians, trying to sweet-talk us.
This guy is a Kennedy clone – Ted, not Jack. If you Dems out there want a Clinton without the ideas, or a Carter without the ideals, this guy is your man.

Since we’re playing the conspiracy-theory game, here’s a go-

I don’t think this is a Rove job. The last time an incident like this occurred during primary season (Clinton & Gennifer Flowers), Clinton won the nomination anyway and was effectively able to call the issue settled by November. If the rumor is in fact true, Kerry will still likely be able to win the nomination, and this will be a non-issue some November (especially since there is a sex-scandal fatigue still lingering from Clinton’s later philandering). Karl Rove is not stupid, so if the goal was to damage Kerry for the general election, he would have sat on it until after the dem convention. It is unlikely that the Rove would want to damage him for the primaries, since the likely beneficiary would be Edwards, who in Republican eyes is more electable than Kerry.

If there is anyone “behind” this story (as opposed to being Time & co. investigating all on their own), it is either one of the rival campaigns or the Clintons (or both). The rival campaigns would have obvious motives. The speculation over at Instapundit (where I got this link) is that Chris Lahane is the person peddling the story. He was fired by the Kerry campaign a while back (which means plain old personal vendetta could be involved), and was then the media secretary for the Clark campaign. Also, Clark is the only candidate to have referenced this (Drudge has second-hand reports of him saying “Kerry will implode over an intern issue.”).

Which brings us to the Clintons. Hillary stayed out of this race because the thought was that Bush was unbeatable. Now the consensus is that he can be beat, which leaves Hillary with problems. She doesn’t want a democrat non named Hillary Clinton to win this year because it means she has to wait until 2012 to run, and by 2012 the Clintons and the Clintonistas might not control the party apparatus in the way they do now, making it much harder for her to get the nomination. She now has two options for 2004: 1) sabotage the most electable candidate for the primaries (which in Democratic eyes is Kerry), and get the Democrats to nominate someone who will get clobbered (this is why the Clintons pushed Clark into the race), or 2) sabotage the primary process entirely so that there will be a brokered convention, allowing the Clintons to either a)be the kingmakers of a sacrificial lamb through the superdelegates, or b)present Hillary as the savior candidate if they think Bush is weak enough to lose. I would not be suprised if the Clintons were behind this.

And for you Democrats out there that think the Clintons wouldn’t sabotage the Democratic primaries or root against a Democratic candidate, remember what Jim McDougal had to say about the Clintons, which paraphrases roughly, “The Clintons are like tornadoes- they sweep into your life, and by the time you realize they’ve destroyed everything, they’ve moved on.” The Clintons have been great to themselves, but they haven’t helped the Democratic party at all, and for the good of your own party you’ll be better off the sooner you get rid of them.

GWB has been a fine President, He has remained true to what he has said he would do, he’s worked on medicare, on education, he has strengthened our defenses and restored the big stick to go along with the words. He has cut taxes like he said he would. The economy is doing fine and getting better, after inheriting the Clinton Gore recession and the body blow of 9/11 (A fact that the democrats conveniently ignore when discussing the economy as if 9/11 had no effect at all on the economy) His foreign policy has forced libya to give up it’s WMD programs, he’s given to Afghanistan and Iraq something they’ve never had, liberty and freedom and the hope that their lives can be better.

A sign of a good President (And I mean that a good President makes the vast middle happy) GWB has annoyed the left and the right.

And now he gets to respond to the free democratic advertisements of the last 2 months (Primaries and the endless anti-Bush soundbites played endlessly on the news) as far as the situation with Kerry and his private life, I would suspect Kerry’s rivals of the leakage over GWB and the Republicans.

It will be an interesting year.

I’m with the group that sees Democrats behind this. I think Repubs would much rather run against Kerry (or Dean) than Edwards; I think Edwards is a far bigger threat.

Edwards is from the south, young, smooth, energetic and a great off-the-cuff speaker. In a debate, he could match up against Bush really well. He has the same “likeability” that helps Bush in debates even when his answers are weak. But Edwards would be both likeable and articulate - something Bush can only dream of.

Kerry has a long history that can be used against him, along with his regional weaknesses. And in a debate, I think he won’t be able to touch Bush in the “likeability” department, which for too many people matters more than the actual answers that candidates give.

If Edwards has some experienced people behind him, along with the DNC and party apparatus, he would be formidable.

Here’s hoping he doesn’t get the nomination.

Libs Be honest, GOP conspiracy
4 Words from your own party
DEMOCRACTIC CONSULTANT CHRIS LEHANE!!!!!!!
That’s who peddled the story in a long line of campaign bombs.

Democrats sabotaging democrats… Terry McAwful every time he opens his mouth. He must like the taste of shoe leather.

Tom Daschle everytime he confront GWB, he invariable ends up sounding childish and whiny.

If I was a liberal I’d focus my consiracy theories on the idea that McAuliffe and daschle were republican plants.

Its really a matter of GWB not wanting to continue to decline vs. Kerry in the polls. They know that even though it is still very early, they can’t let Kerry get ahead too far in the polls. This is only the beginning. The real dirt is going to start being shoveled later…

As a Massachusetts resident, I was push-polled by the Kerry Campaign during the senate challenge by Bill Weld. It was the type of polling where they ask you if you agree with statements like “We should protect our children.” So they ask you a bunch of questions almost everyone agrees with, and at the end they tell you Kerry supports all that stuff. Not as mean spirited, I guess, but still useless and deceiving.

Democrats,

When you guys find an honest candidate who can keep his hands off women he isn’t married to, let me know. Until then, don’t waste your breath.

Why the automatic assumption of Republican involvement? The Drudge article mentioned that it appeared that Chris Lehane was the source who was pushing this story to the media and it was Weaselly Clarke who mentioned this “off the record” to three reporters. Yes, Republicans have slung their share of mud. Gingrich moved mountains of it. Don’t assume Bush is behind all this. After all, the Democrats are throwing more mud at each other than Bush has thrown at any of them.

- RichInKC

This might actually help Kerry. I mean, much like Clinton, can anyone blame him for cheating on his wife? Sheesh. And it helps combat his stiff, gaunt, Lurch impression that he gives.

It doesn’t really matter, here. It mattered for Clinton because when he was sued for sexual harassment, the plantiff wanted to show that he had a pattern of hitting on women under his power (so to speak). Clinton lied under oath, hoping to refute the lawsuit. That’s why his affair was important, this is pretty meaningless.

This is just one of many scandals that going to
come out about Kerry. No one has started to expose Kerry’s last year in the military and how
it was he, and not Bush, that was awol
during that time, while he went to Washington to
pursue politics.

Has everyone here read this? How anyone could vote for Kerry is beyond me.

Gen. Giap: Kerry’s Group Helped Hanoi Defeat U.S.

The North Vietnamese general in charge of the military campaign that finally drove the U.S. out of South Vietnam in 1975 credited a group led by Democratic presidential front-runner John Kerry with helping him achieve victory.

In his 1985 memoir about the war, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap wrote that if it weren’t for organizations like Kerry’s Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Hanoi would have surrendered to the U.S. - according to Fox News Channel war historian Oliver North.

That’s why, he predicted on Tuesday, the Vietnam War issue “is going to blow up in Kerry’s face.”

“People are going to remember Gen. Giap saying if it weren’t for these guys [Kerry’s group], we would have lost,” North told radio host Sean Hannity.

“The Vietnam Veterans Against the War encouraged people to desert, encouraged people to mutiny - some used what they wrote to justify fragging officers,” noted the former Marine lieutenant colonel, who earned two purple hearts in Vietnam.

“John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands,” North said.

Kerry has played both sides of every issue imaginable - Vietnam, national security, trade, education, Gulf 1, Gulf 2 - and now we learn he’s been playing both sides of the “marriage issue.” Shocking.

Personally, I think the Kerry affair rumor was put out by Kerry himself (or, rather his own campaign). Kerry knows he has the nomination sewn up, he releases it now (because it’s true), and it’s early enough before the general election so as to be behind him at that time. Thus, by then, it’s not an issue. This assumes he calculates that he can hold the nomination in the meantime. Clinton history has shown that this is just not that big a deal to most of the American electorate. I guess we’ll see…

Who broke the Kerry sex scandle Fox News? No it was Time magazine, not exactly a conservative publication now is it? This is simply an example of liberals undermining liberals. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the Clinton’s were behind it. If no viable Democrats are left to oppose Bush then Hillary steps nforward to accept the nomination. If not, she simplys waits until 2008 knowing that the Democratic nominee now has no chance against Bush

Political Star has a story on the John Kerry allegations, and mentions Watchblog as being the first to break the story.

Someone was asking where the Kerry
and the 20-year-old woman story came
from. Well, I don’t know, but I do
know that Gen. Clark recently mentioned
some sort of “intern” problem that
Kerry had. But, that is not the first
I heard of it. I also recall that in
the Bush/Gore election the thought
of nominating Kerry as Vice-President
was snubbed within the party because
of Kerry’s secret life. So, this has
apparently been known within the party
for a long time and likely is
surfacing because other Democrat
candidates are jealous of Kerry’s lead
in the primary.

That would be the most
“logical” of any assumptions one could
make at this point. Still, these
are assumptions.

Considering the fact that we enjoyed the revelations about Henry Hyde, Bob Livingston and Newt Gingrich, in response to the right wing attack on Bill Clinton, I can’t wait for the left’s response to this attack on Kerry.
Are you listening Larry Flynt?

There have been a lot of stories about Kerry and interns. Yes, most were when he was single. But others have been when he was married. There was a story from the Boston Herald a few years ago about a young woman making late night visits to Kerry’s Beacon Hill manse when Teresa was out of town. The girl - and she was a girl and one hot blonde - denied she had sex with him and said she was dropping off a resume. Dropping off a resume - at 11 p.m. at night! Oh yeah, I believe that. Well, it turns out she wasn’t just some college chick looking for a job!

Second, this didn’t come from the GOP although it could have had they been briefed about Kerry’s sexcapades. Hey, they were briefed about Mike Dukakis letting out rapists and murderers on furloughs but let Al Gore do their dirty work for them so …
More than likely, given the reported Clark off-the-record to reporters, it probably came from Chris Lehane. Lehane has been all over the press attacking his former employer. But it could have also come from any other Boston reporter who has heard all kinds of stories about Kerry. After the New Hampshire primary, Boston Herald muckraker and rightwing talk radio host Howie Carr asked FoxNews’ Chris Wallace when they were going to start looking into Kerry’s sex problems. Wallace choked up and said he didn’t know what Carr was talking about. Carr told Wallace he could tell him the stories any time he wanted. Then, there was dead silence.
Lastly, shockingly, there was nothing about this on TV today. Nothing on FoxNews’ “Special Report with Brit Hume,” nothing on “Hardball,” nothing on the news. It is the biggest friggin’ political story and has been bubbling under the campaign for months. When will someone go after Kerry for his sex problems. Again, silence. So much for the conservatives controlling the news.

We don’t need another Bill Clinton as the Democratic nominee. Clinton’s eight years of incompetence gave us Bush 43.

Nominating kerry will be political suicide. the Democratic party needs a change and I will not vote for the Dem. nominee unless they are Dean or Edwards.

KERRY SUCKS!

Drudge needs to be exposed for the cut and paste fraud that he is. PLEASE get the word out that you guys were first on this, not the ass who is now screaming world exclusive and that his pice of trash web site must be quoted.

All of you are clueless. All you are doing is speculating about a “maybe rumor, sort of, kind of” spread by a list of at least a hundred possible suspects. This reminds me of an old movie star magazine, or those stupid tabloids at the grocery store. I’m outa here.

My concern about the Iraq war was summed up in Rumsfeld’s memo. Are we making more terrorists than we are killing/capturing. I think not. Oh yeah, I will feel much safer if it turns out that the WMD have been moved to Syria.

Kerry can’t even keep back up his word on his wedding vows to someone he supposedly loves. How can he be trusted to keep his vows to this country? He’s come out against gay marriage. What right does he have to talk about matters related to marriage - something he doesn’t hold sacred. Kerry’s finished. There are enough gullible people to nominate him, but not to elect him president. Don’t look for him to drop out, though. He doesn’t have any decency.

I think your definition of push polling is off. In technology terms, push refers to getting information out, and pull in getting it in.

In the case of push polling, it probably relates to the fact that to poll is not about pulling information in at all, but about pushing information out to likely voters in an under the radar approach.

Oliver North is a “war historian”? Non-partisan, I’m sure.

Kerry is like a Russian doll. The longer you look at him, the thinner he becomes. First he was a Vietnam war hero. Then I see on the news footage from the seventies how he trows his medals away and backstabs his fellow Vietnam veterans by calling them murderers and rapists and agitating against the the Vietnam war, thereby aiding and comforting the enemy. Why am I surpsised at politicians? I should know by now they are sarcastic narcisists.

So, the guy that owns this blogsite also happens to work for General Clark — and Clark mentions to 12 reporters “off the record” that Kerry will implode over an intern?

Suddenly it seems clear how this site managed to break the story a week before anyone else….

It’s funny.. I am a Democrat, but I’m starting to not like Democrats for the same reason Republicans don’t like Democrats. Of course, I still don’t like Republicans - but on one issue we see eye to eye.

If Kerry couldn’t keep his willy in his pants and lies about it, he is a POS. If he says he did it, I can forgive that. He has a wife to answer to, not me, on issues concerning his sex life.
Compared to the lies of Bush that have resulted in thousands of deaths and a world political situation that grows more dangerous every day. Not to mention that he is bankrupting the country by giving sweetheart deals to his buddies. We know Bush is a liar and a thief. I fear that we are going to hear Kerry tell us a big fat one, however, so far, no one know for sure that Kerry is a philanderer, save the possible philanderee(s).
Supposedly, the lady was a cutie, now there is a step up on our boy Clinton. I resent the fact that Clinton lied to us, repeatedly. I resent the fact that Bush has lied to us repeatedly. I am prepared to take it real personal if Kerry lies to me.
I do consider lies and stealing far worse than having sex with a young girl.
Speaking of lies and liars, I am listening to our good old buddy Rumsfeld on CSPAN. That *** is cranking out one crock right after another.
As to who leaked this, who cares. If it is true, it needs to be out there. If it is false, we can look for that liar at that time.

Gee, I wonder how this “rumor” got leaked. It appears on this blog first. Who runs this site? A guy that did work for Clark. Who starts talking to reports? Clark. Tell me again how Rove is connected to this?

“If you are 20 and a conservative you have no heart, If you are 40 and are a liberal you have no brain”

But what if you are a Neo-con at 20? Do they just assume you’re crazy and stop talking to you, or a liberal at 40 and then try to cop weed.

Anyway here’s my comment: Hep hmm. Kerreeeees gunaaa kick bushes ayass! Thank you.

The reason that Republicans would leak it now is that it is impossible to trace back. Remember deniability? Of course, this is only a theory, but it is as plausible as any other. If this somehow emerged after Kerry was the nominee, it would be obvious as to the culpirt. Now, it is not. Imagine it this way: Six people are in a room with no light. Each person has a gun. The seventh person, Kerry, is lying on the floor with a fatal gunshot wound.

Drudge writes: Kerry is scheduled to appear on IMUS IN THE MORNING on Friday. Later he is scheduled to join General Wesley Clark, who, in an off-the-record conversation with a dozen reporters earlier this week, plainly stated: “Kerry will implode over an intern issue.”

Reporters who witnessed Clark making the stunning comments marvel at the General’s reluctance to later confirm they were spoken — only to later endorse Kerry for the nomination!

Developing…

>>>I think Drudge is lying thru his teeth knowingly and I think he’s
deliberately misquoting Clark as saying “intern” when Clark actually
said “intern-al” issue. Also, the word “internal” would make sense,
from the most important point of view, *chronologically.* Why?

Because Drudge’s “earlier this week” includes Monday or early Tuesday long before Clark knew the results of Tennessee. Both Edwards, Dean and Clark have been described as to saying to people in and around their campaigns that they were justifying their continued presence by the *hope* that Kerry would do something himself, *intern-ally* to implode. Something intern-al to Kerry’s campaign, a scandal, a mis-step or something.

Drudge got caught with his pants down on the pending Clark endorsement of Kerry.

Notice how this is all shaping up?

Putting Kerry in a position of having to prove a negative? If she’s out of the country, and nobody can reach her, Bush & Company are trying to put a stench on Kerry that he might not be able to completely remove even if it’s true.

From Africa? Please. Was she black? Is this “smear McCain part II” like they did South Carolina 2000 over McCain’s adopted dark skinned daughter from Indonesia?

If so, and especially if untrue, these are tactics that would make the scummiest operative of all, Lee Atwater, vomit. Guess who learned at the feet of Lee Atwater?

Karl Rove.

If this isn’t true, Bush and Rove are going to learn the meaning of that verse in Proverbs 26:27 I provided this morning.

Proverbs 26:27
Whoso diggeth a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.

As a Deaniac, I’m really happy tonight. Finally, Kerry will get a dose of his own medicine. He used third parties to attack Dean with sleazy ads, such as the Osama ad in Iowa. Now some Kerry hater, not Dean, leaked this story to Drudge, and it has legs.

The media giveth and the media taketh away.

Rumor maybe. Isn’t it odd that Drudge’s “rumors’ are always right?

As a Democrat who supports about 1% of what Bush has done in his Presidency (that 1% is throwing a strike before the 2001 World Series) I have to say that this is probably not Rove in action. It’s likely Lehane but it could just be lots of idle chatter too. Scandals don’t always have to come from the bigwig evil geniuses like Rove, Atwater, Lehane or Carville. The only real source on this so far is Drudge and the National Enquirer (British papers are running it, though they’re all citing Drudge). At this point it’s still idle chatter that belongs in the National Enquirer and nowhere else.

That said, the man I want to represent the Democratic Party, John Edwards, would gain from this revelation (if it’s true). Edwards is a decent man who represents core Democratic Party values (and for those who hate trial lawyers just remember Abe Lincoln was one too:)) and articulates them very well. He is politically inexperienced but that never stopped W. (6 years vs. 8 years)

Drudge’s rumors always true??? Like Sidney Blumenthal beating his wife? Drudge should take a job with the National Enquirer. He’s a scumbag. His only claim to fame is breaking the Lewinsky scandal only because Isikoff pocketed it for a week. How many of the false WMD sightings showed up on Drudge first (before they hit Fox)? He has no credibility. If he’s right on this it’s because he’s lucky, not sharp.

I would not vote for any politician who had cheated on his wife, because it illustrates an appalling lack of honesty, good judgment, or both.

Bill Clinton would not have qualified for a security clearance to be the janitor in the CIA cafeteria, due to his exposure to blackmail while he was ‘not having sex’ with Monica.

How hard is it to suppose a scenario under which Monica is an agent for Mossad or the KGB, collects proof of Bill’s infidelity, and then dictates Bill’s actions for the rest of his term by threatening to expose him? He put the whole country at risk for the sake of his own gratification.

The same thing goes for Kerry, if this rumor proves to be true. I don’t want such a weak and selfish man in charge of this country.

Moreover, I am sick of the feminist harridans who have destroyed the careers of countless men for on-the-job affairs that went sour and somehow became “sexual harrassment”. They seem to make an exception for politicians who toe the line for abortion on demand. I want them and their gigolo politicians destroyed.

If true, this story merely shows that Kerry’s position on marital fidelity has “evolved.” Perhaps the intern told him she wanted to learn about “push polling.”

Who is behind the Kerry intern rumor? Who runs the Democratic Party? Who would benefit the most from The Democratic Party in disarray? Who will ride to the rescue at the convention? Take a guess? Hillary!

Interesting that as of yet, no US national news outlet has even mentioned the Kerry story. It is already on many other international sites. Why? Are they checking sources, analizing what fallout is happening to who, waiting to hear what they can print, and from who? Ahh, the mind wanders.
All of the posts raise good points, but Bush really doesn’t gain by leaking this. He has been getting pounded for months and the guard issue is just another fly buzzing around to bug him. It will be mostly forgotten soon anyway. The Bush camp is just now starting to swing at the Dems and comming out with something this big would be stupid. They are not in any major problem at this point in the game that would make them throw in this trump card. This Bush team is not going to start too early and come up short. They already have big plans for late summer/early fall to turn the tide for good.
Likely story-Kerry has it leaked now to get it worn out by nomination time. Dems will for the most part forgive him if this is spun the right way and that is what is his base and what he needs to get on the big ticket. Better to have it get out now than later when it won’t have the time to heal. He can get simpathy and blame the REP for the nasty leak.

Maybe someone just got terribly bored with continuing to read that President Bush was AWOL or deserted? And decided to start something else. Now we have another tempest in a teapot brewing. This one about an allegation of an “affair” between Kerry and a “staffee” young enough to be his granddaughter. Less than a week after the temptress in a C-cup brouhaha with Janet Jackson’s boobie at the Super Bowl. The super boobs weren’t the ones exposed at the Super Bowl—they’re the ones exposing themselves in blogs around the world right now. Including me, except that I’m spending time on this only because I just awakened all stuffed up and need to find something boring enough to put me back to sleep. Nothing like my writing to do that.

Karl Rove started the rumour. No, that doesn’t make sense. A Democrat running against Kerry started it. Yeah, that makes more sense. Who’s likely? Clark—he’s the one who said Kerry would implode over an intern deal. Or did he? Wait, maybe he said “internal.” But if he said and thought that, why did he announce he was dropping out of the race? He cudda been a contenda. And then we have the announcement strongly anticipated for later today that he’s going to SUPPORT Kerry? Doesn’t make sense then, does it? This site is run by a Clark supporter, you say? Well, then let’s say HE started it. After all, the site has about a week’s headstart on anyone else. Wait, I’ve got a better idea. The Clintons started it. Yeah, the Clintons started it—or Terry McAuliffe. No, I can top that one—Chris LeHane lost his job as Kerry’s campaign (This early it’s already a “campain.”) manager. He had to have started it. No, no, no. Not good enough. I’ve got it. Kerry started it himself. Why would he do that? Because it’s true and this way he can get it over long before the real campaign gets underway in the fall. OK, that’s the ticket. Let’s go with Kerry doing it himself to get it out of the way.

If you want to have a real impact on the November elections, get off the message boards and WORK on political campaigns in one of the 12 states where the margin of victory was less than 5%: (Florida .01), (New Mexico .06), (Wisconsin .2), (Iowa .3) (Oregon .4), (New Hampshire 1.3), (Minnesota 2.4), (Missouri 3.3), (Ohio, 3.5), (Nevada 3.6), Tennessee (3.9), or (Pennsylvania, 4.2). Chances of other states being in play this year are slim to none—any states that might have gone the other way without minor candidates siphoning off votes are already on this list.

Three states were decided by fewer than 5,000 votes (State, Electoral Votes, Popular Vote Margin): (New Mexico 5 366), (Florida 25 537), and (Iowa 7 4144). In the next tier were (Wisconsin 11 5708), (Oregon 7 6765), and (New Hampshire 4 7211).

The katzenjammer over President Bush’s military service and being AWOL is going to be over long before votes are cast in November. (If I were Karl Rove, having people waste time pounding and pursuing it now could well be my dream scenario. So is anything about Kerry monkey business with near children.) If anything’s going to be an issue, the time for the issue is September, October, and November—not now. The timing is wrong, premature. It’s going to play out as it plays out, no matter what you do here. Most of you are pissing away your time researching rumours and commenting on it.

The election is going to be decided in the states listed above. It’s going to be decided on the issues: national security (war, if you will), economy, health care, social security, and taxes. Those issues and personality. And it’s damned sure not going to be decided based on who appears to be more intelligent. Adlai Stevenson learned that the hard way twice by coming aross as too bright. Why do we have to learn these lessons every four years?

And the notion that integrity could turn out to be a real issue with politicians is a real laugher. When’s the last time that happened in a Presidential election? Lying to get your vote has come to be expected from every politician. It’s the rules.

The oath, or vows, exchanged at marriage pledge fidelity to one another. Once broken, the bond of trust is comprimised and often irreconcilably fractured.

If this story of Kerrys infidelity proves true, his wife will never be fully capable of trusting his word or future promises….based upon his actions.

Neither will I.

Anyone who asserts Karl Rove is behind this with no shred of evidence is not in a position to lecture anyone else on slime politics.

Lee Atwater was well respected on both sides of the political aisle. But that doesn’t prevent some dildos from slandering a man who died a tragic, premature death.

There you have only two of many reasons why liberals make me sick.

You idiots. Bush had nothing to do with this story or rumor, whichever it is. Why not actually READ the entire blog?

Why not a peep from any of the big 3 news outlets in the last 24 hours? All I heard was Democrat momentum is killing Bush ratings, deficit spending, dental records, human cloning, and gay marriage.
Could they actually be…biased?
Naaaaw.

Kerry’s wife, Mrs. Heinz said she wasn’t going to be like Hillary Clinton. If Johnny boy ever cheated on her she was going to “maim” him. Has anybody seen Kerry “limping” after the news broke? NO. I guess feminism is dead. Is being “first lady” of the nation and pretty much the world worth everything? Even a cheating husband? The father of your children? No I am wrong. Feminism is alive. Women have officially become just as sarcastic phoneys as men always were.

The report also alleged that General Wesley Clark, who bowed out of the race on Wednesday, told reporters: “Kerry will implode over an intern issue.”

watchblog is busted :
Cameron Barrett, one of the first handful of bloggers to popularize the highly personal, diary-style Web site in 1998, is coordinating the Clark Community Network at clark04.com. Even one of the Internet’s leading conservative blogger, Glenn Reynolds, says Barrett’s model could be Clark’s best hope of catching Dean, the former Vermont governor who added the coveted endorsement of former Vice President Al Gore on Tuesday.

“Cameron Barrett has done some enormously innovative and impressive stuff with the Clark campaign despite having to start well after everyone else had left the goal post,” said Reynolds.

Barrett was not a political blogger until he started Watchblog.com last year, and he leaves a lot of the editorial work for the Clark blog to others.

sol=Barrett ?

I wonder how long until this blog disappears ?

Rob

Speaking of rumors and rumor-mongers, I too would like to know the source of your information that President Bush is a former “coke-head”? Or even the more benign, but similarly baseless - to the best of my recollection, claim that he has had several DUIs?

For all the Clinton apologists:

With respect to Clinton and Lewinski, I am not particularly pleased that he would be so reckless as to have his daliance with an intern come to light - like she was really going to say “no” to the President of the United States. What troubles me to the core, however, is not his indiscretion(s) but the fact that he would not only lie to a National audience about the affair, but that he would perjure himself by lying under oath.

If you ever have the misfortunate to find yourself in court, I suspect that you will expect that those who take the oath, will in fact tell the truth. But after Clinton, the top official in our governnment, and an attorney and officer of the court, freely lied under oath, good luck trusting that mere citizens - like interns and sex - will sense any particular ability, obligation, or duty to conduct themselves honorably.

For me, it isn’t about coercion and sex, it is all about integrity. It used to be that integrity was something to protect at all cost, for once it was lost, it was hard as Hell to get it back. That does not appear to be the case anymore. Lie your ass off, even under oath, and apparently a great number of Americans will welcome you back into the fold immediately.

That is not the type of person I would buy a used car from, much less find Presidential material.

A newspaper based in Australia has identified the woman as Alex Polier, 24, who had worked as a New York-based reporter for Associated Press. She now is now in Kenya. Based on the report it doesn’t sound like an affair.

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8673603%255E401,00.html

I think we’re taking our eye off the ball here. Kerry had a nookie. That’s not what’s important. Kerry is also said to be a member of the secretive societies “Scull and Bones” and “Church of Fandel”. Both, just like the UN dedicated to population control. They want to bring down the population from 6 billion to 2 billion people in a 100 years using the Chinese 1 child policy. The guy is a real creep and should be thoroughly investigated.

This is a REAL disaster for Kerry. Apparently she wasn’t interested. No nookie at all. He’s suspected of maybe trying to get some. He made phone calls. Jesus. Can’t vote for a guy like that. The parents are outraged.

Atwater was not “respected on both sides of the aisle”. He was a vicious creep. On his deathbed he repented and asked for forgiveness from some of his victims, but no one was bound to give it to him and I don’t.

Give the guy a break the day of the funeral and a little while afterwards, but in the long run he got the reputation he earned by his acts. If anyone who criticizes poor Mr Atwater (such a nice man) make you sick, I hope it’s a serious illness.

Jesus, sex rumors do bring out the vermin. It’s like cockroaches to a grease spill. Y’all ought check out the Paris Hilton vidoes on the internet. They are really something!

THEEEERSA KERRY HEINZ KNEW!!
Remember when Theresa Heinz said she would use her money on Kerry’s campaign only if he were “personally attacked”? I say this gave her the EXCUSE and gets this scandal out of the way early. Clark was promised something out of the deal too. Whether Bill and Hillary involved is yet to be seen. IF Hillary V.P. pick then yes, she would have DEMANDED Heinz spend the loot. If not OH MY GOD HILLARY WATCH OUT!!!
Sandra Binder
Canton, Ohio

Coke-Head?

No one has ever claimed first-hand knowledge of Bush ever using cocaine, let alone Bush being a coke-head. No one has ever even printed a news story with an anonymous source claiming such knowledge. It’s all been “rumors” and innuendo.

In contrast, three people who knew Bill Clinton claimed to know that he was a coke-head, including his brother, Roger Clinton (on a police surveillance tape) and his long-time girlfriend Gennifer Flowers (to reporters).

This site has a picture of the former intern.
Check it out
www.witnessreport.com

who care whom kerry has sex with it efects his wife and himself and the lady if there is one. Hopefull his mistake will not cause hundreds of children their fathers. For all you good rep. uncle same wants you.

Rob:

It’s spelled “perjury” (what Clinton did), not “purgery” (though that sounds like a pretty interesting charge in itself). How can we trust you to know what “is” is?

Harold

Maybe Kerry sent this one out there because it is not true. After it gets significant exposure and the Bush people are insinuated as the source, then Kerry comes through with the proof that it is false. Then, all future claims, even if true, would not be paid attention to. Just a thought…

Ofcourse it matters. Kerry can’t even keep a vow to his wife, so how are we supposed to believe him when he vows to uphold the constitution? Secondly the girl was only 20 years old. Kerry is 60 for goodness sake. He was banging a baby. Isn’t Michael Jackson in court for that? But I guess Creepy Kerry can always flee the country and hide in France, like Roman Polanski. So the rumors about Kerry using Botox are true after all. Though looking at the age difference he probably wasn’t using Botox to stiffen his forehead.

So if the Kerry affair proves to be true is it wrong for the press to report it? How is it Rove’s “fault” for the story of Kerry’s infidelity being reported, when so many sat on the info at a time when Bush’s military records are being debated in the face of all available proof showing that he was doing what was required of a National Guardsman?

Kerry push polled Dean in Iowa and New Hampshire:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/1/30/04918/5575

As a Massachusetts resident and democrat, Kerry is a hypocrite and a lousy senator.

Kerry is getting support from a Nashville area conman named Joe Merlo. Merlo was big on Gore in the 2000 race and looks to be supporting Kerry this go round. Merlo needs help from the Feds and the Bush crowd is not inclined to help.

I don’t think the mainstream press would break this news on a Friday. There’s just too much to run with.

I heard it was Kerry and Hilary C.(But quite awhile ago).

Does this story really suprize anyone?
I wish the Dem’s would just choose “Larry, Moe or Curry, so the country can re-elect Bush in 2004 and move on…

Whether the intern rumors are true or not, one cannot but help worry about the links between Kerry and Kennedy and ask what they hold for us.

I first knew of the Kennedy clan as a youngster living in England. Joe was sent by FDR to St. James to get him out of Washington. When my family was forced to return to Massachusetts, leaving on 1 Sep 1939 aboard the already overfilled U.S.Manhattan, we had to stop in Cobh to pick up a bunch of Joe’s friends. There were hundreds of folding cots loaded aboard at Southampton and set up in hallways, emptied swimming pools and dining rooms turned into dormatories. We were limited to two meals a day in those facilities still in service. Joe’s friends, who never would have travelled on an American liner got staterooms; others slept on cots in hallways.

The Athenia was sunk by a German u-boat in the Irish Sea a couple of hundred miles from us, that same day. Old Joe later came home with a lock on the importation of Scottish Whiskeys as his price for trying to get help for the Brits, didn’t he?

Later, Jack got Jacqueline and she brought us Camelot. I have to believe that Jacqueline Bouvier was trying to tell us, sublimably, what she endured married to John Fitzgerald Kennedy, as she redecorated the White House and called it Camelot (Hugh Sidey,John F. Kennedy, New York, Atheneum, 1963). She had studied at the Sorbonne and she must have known more than a little French. By then, she knew well the trash she had married (Ronald Kessler, The Sins of the Fathers, New York, NY, Warner Books, 1996, 346-47, 381-82; cf Seymour M. Hersh, The Dark Side of Camelot, Boston, Little, Brown and Company, 1997, 300, 301n, 333, 390).

Whether from her early studies at Vassar or later at the Sorbonne, she must knew the meaning of the word CAMELOT. An old dictionary by my side says “CAMELOT: (noun, masc.) tramp; CAMELOTE (noun, fem.) trash, rubbish” (J. McLaughlin,Nouveau Dictionnaire Anglais-Francais , Phila, David McKay, 1904, 95). The irony is doubled if she didn’t know.

The duplicity between the real meaning of that word and its current use is revelatory. If Kerry wins, the Ketchup Queen will undoubtely appreciate the pattern: we’ll hear more about Camelot!! And ought to remember the real meaning of the word.

The associations between Kerry and Kennedy alone ought to scare us. And perhaps cause us to ask what Teddy (the Chappaquiddick kid) wants from his protege in return for his support? Pardons? For how many untold crimes still hiding in Camelot?

I live in Mass, and John Kerry represents the worst of politics today; blind ambition without any real passion about any issue, other than getting elected.

Pray, countrymen, that he doesn’t get elected.

Kerry has been changing positions on several issues. He recently declared that he’s against gay marriage. Yet he did sign a letter in Massachusets to stop an amendment on marriage as between one man and one woman. Moreover, he was pro - war in Iraq, now he’s against it. He protested the vietnam war, now he is bragging about it. So, given that, it won’t be problem believing the rumor about his affair.

I’m the leader of a Church which accepts homosexual marriages. I looked at Kerry as the man who would give us respect outside of the liberal community. No more. Kerry has destroyed liberal candidates’ chances to win over middle America for years to come. His cynical and outrageous behaviour has made liberals look sleazy, untrustworthy and unelectable. America won’t suffer another Clinton.

This joke is all over the internet. If radio stations pick it up, Bush will win another four dark years. Thanks Kerry. Jerk!

You abandoned me
Love don’t live here anymore
Just a vacancy
Love don’t live here anymore

Just emptiness and memories
Of what we had before
You went away
Found another place to stay, another home

You abandoned me
Love don’t live here anymore

—Kerry’s wife, Teresa Heinz (Rose Royce)

Take your time and tell me
Why you lie? I realise
That we’ve been found out this time
We should stand together
If we can. But what you planned
Means there’s a difference between …
What you’re gonna say in private
You still want my love, we’re in this together
And what you’re gonna do in public
Say you were never in love that you can remember

—Monica Lewinsky (Pet Shop Boys)

Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run, girl, you’re much too young, girl

Beneath your perfume and makeup
You’re just a baby in disguise
And though you know that it’s wrong to be alone with me
That “come on” look is in your eyes

So hurry home to your momma
I’m sure she wonders where you are
Get out of here, before I have the time to change my mind
‘Cause I’m afraid we’ll go too far

Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run, girl, you’re much too young, girl

Botox stiffened 60 year old Kerry to his 20 year old puppy love girlfriend. (Gary Pucket)

By the time Kerry is finally forced out by this issue, Al Sharpton will be the last democratic nominee in the field. My prediction is: Sharpton vs. Bush

Republicans,

We’ve got to unite against the so called vietnam veteran John Kerry.
If you are a real patriot, you do not doubt the fact that Bush has served in the military and that the one and only true patriot is George W Bush and not the so called vietnam veteran John Kerry.

Pic of John Kerry sex storm girl
Scandal … Alex Poller

Go to www.witnessreport.com

As a conservative Republican I am having enough problems with a bloated federal budget and immigration issues (which my party is avoiding and the other party will NEVER address - other than raising taxes).

I see this as a distraction from Kerry’s ultra-liberal record. Personally, I hope