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to call this an unstoppable steamroller is a bit premature….
there are many primaries to go in the next few weeks, and dean, with a good second place and lots of funds to live on will give kerry a run for the nomination.

personally, despite the political backstabbing and he said/he said games, both candidates are strong ones, although heaven help them when the bush onslaught machine kicks it out of neutral.

I hope it comes out as you think it will, David…I just don’t know what kind of “dirt” the Bush campaign has on our guys. We will need the sort of unity you talk about if we are to survive the Bush propaganda machine in the summer and fall.

Well, Bush cannot touch Kerry on his military career. If he does, he will receive a lot more back than he can take.

no, the Bush crew will focus on what Kerry voted on as a Senator.

they will do what they can to paint him as a threat to good god-fearing Americans….and they will try to paint him as unpatriotic, despite his service to America.

the press has painted Dean as a whackjob liberal who is too left to run the country…which is not true. he is more left than Bush, but Dean is more centered than the media would like to admit…but then, that doesn’t make for good television. his empassioned “scream” speech…now that is ratings platinum….

it will go like this…

Bush will be stoic, and with his famous smirk , try to appear above the frey…keeping his cool in an election year, running this great country of ours, showing that he’s more interested in the good of the people, instead of petty political machinery.

his crew however, will leak and push info on whomever the frontrunner is, and paint him as the anti-christ.

they are foaming at the mouth for Dean, however, with Kerry, they have his Senatorial Record as proof of his discretions….

sadly….they’ll hit below the belt….

they will spin whatever good Kerry has done for our country into what we should fear…..and the Right will rally to the side of the President.

Politics infuriate me…..especially when they are so well played.

Robert, I apologize if I left the impression I was voting for Kerry, or any Democratic candidate. I was simply stating what from my limited experience and point of view will occur. Personally, I will be voting for whichever Green candidate wins the nomination. That said, I will confess I sent $50 to Kerry’s campaign this evening, now that I am convinced that he is the candidate who will be charged with the responsibility of unseating Bush.

Kerry can have my money, but, he would never get my vote; after voting to give Bush carte blanche to invade wherever, whenever and whomever Bush himself deemed a terrorist threat, right or wrong. That action was tantamount to subverting and abdicating the specific authority granted to Congress under the Constitution to represent the interests of the people where war is concerned.

If Kerry is going to get the nomination, I’d like to see him have to compete for a few states. If the race is more competitive, Bush’s people will have a tougher time singling any candidate out.

As long as the Democrats maintain that competitiveness, the future Democratic challenger remains a moving target for criticism and smear campaigns, while Bush, the incumbent, remains a fixed one, open to defined and targeted criticism.

“Kerry won Iowa, and he just won New Hampshire. The Kerry steamroller cannot be stopped now.”

One primary, and he’s unstoppable?

Let’s not forget that Dean’s done better than Clinton did in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Let’s not forget that Dean’s currently beating Kerry in delegates, because of the superdelegates who’ve endorsed him.

It’s not over yet, and this is gonna be a long slog of a primary season.

Fair enough, David. For similar reasons, I’m still having trouble trusting Kerry. I’m going to vote for Dean, when the Texas primaries finally roll around (curse our idiot legislature and governor). I just think that Democrats are going to have a very hard time keeping up with Karl Rove, Inc. They (we) have to stay on the offensive with Bush, or they (we) will get cooked in November.

Robert, I do not know of a more backward and retarded state government in the United States as Texas. Why oh, why, can we not bring forth a constitutional convention to rewrite the dang thing from scratch? Yes it would be enormously contentious and drag on for at least a year or two, but, wouldn’t it be worth it to create a state government that acquires some nimbleness and flexibility to deliver solutions to current and future problems that occur? A government that can much more fairly represent the views and choices of the people without facing a constitutional ammendment in almost every election cycle? That is purely wasted tax dollars decade after decade since 60 to 80% of the voters don’t even vote on those issues and probably because they can’t understand them.

The Libertarians may be on to something by setting up a threshold community that gives them voting majority to run government according their political philosophy. New Hampshire was a great choice for their purposes.

David, I hope you are right, but let’s get through next Tuesday before we anoint Mr. Kerry. I too hope he can pull all the disparate groups that oppose Bush, including the Greens, and unset the un-enlightened despot in the Whitehouse.

I have to admit though I am confused: why give money to the man and not vote for him?

The Kerry steamroller looks a lot like the Dean steamroller did about 2 months ago. We’ll have a better idea of what’s going on in a month or two, once all of the numerous endorsements fall in line. It’s a little early now, and they haven’t even hit the South yet.

Kerrys voting record in the senate will sink him,one case in point his vote to gut our intell forces, besides being a gigalo what would he know abount the middle class.

Mr. Martin, in answer to your question: Reality dictates the Green Party Candidate will not unseat Bush, and I believe Kerry is the one candidate with the greatest chance, and that chance is worth supporting to me. Bush is the immediate and imminent threat to my daughter’s future. Hence, I send $50 to Kerry as an investment in my daughter’s near term future.

On the other hand, the systemic problems with the Democratic Party, many shared with the Republican Party, and both of these parties iron clad grip on the Federal Elections Commission which prevents third parties from attaining a level playing field on the campaign trail, is the long term problem which threatens the future of America throughout the 21st century. Hence, on principle I cannot vote for a Democrat, and must vote for the party and candidate which most closely represents my phiolosophical conclusions and values.

I have been Buddhist since 1969, and my values regarding all life on earth, and the harmony and balance that existed on earth prior to the human species attaining domination over it, are most closely reflected by the Green Party. So, conscience as a citizen in a democracy demands that I vote for the Green Candidate, provided that candidate reflects the platform issues of the party.

I also don’t believe voting compromise for victory is a realistic solution to our future’s incredibly intractable problems. What is the point of voting for a winning candidate if the solutions they offer up are doomed from the outset by the party to be largely ineffective in the long run? And they will be largely ineffective because neither party holds as a core belief that what is good for the earth, will be good for the human race in the long run. They talk a good environmental game, but short term economic and political power goals will always hold priority to our good earth’s need to be respected in all of human’s social, economic and political decisions. The Green Party holds out hope the our races and the earth’s priorities can be set aright.

Rob and ceejayoz, the reason there is no need, in my opinion, to wait till next Tuesday to see if Kerry is infact a steamroller, is the psychological effect of his winning both Iowa and N.H. in an environment where indecision ran rampant among liberals and Democrats. The very fact that he was the frontrunner coming out of those two races, is going to be the primary deciding factor for all of those undecideds in next Tuesday’s primaries.

People love to back a winner, and he is the winner to date. If in doubt, vote for the known winner. That psychology which can be found evident in a host of research on betting, is why I believe Kerry’s steamroller can’t be stopped now, unless, he gaffs in a serious way. He certainly did not gaff at all in tonights debate.

Stephen Daugherty, too late. Note this:

Bush Camp Prepares for Possible Kerry Run

Kerry is ahead in the polls in 5 of the 7 states in next weeks caucuses and primaries. One of the two states he is not ahead in has him trailing Edwards by 1 point. The steamroller continues.