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The Judge is by no means alone. However, I totally agree it is a good thing he has been suspended. He placed himself above the law when he chose to violate a court order to remove the monument. What credibility would he have as a judge invoking contempt of court upon an attorney if the judge, himself, has been guilty of contempt of court?

DR—

You are right, he is not alone his elementary interpretation and understanding of our federal constitution, there are plenty of sheep in his flock, most of which have camped themselves outside the state courthouse building in an inane attempt stop the inevitable. Those who truly understand our constitutional form of government do not stand behind this man, because they (we) know him to be wrong. So wrong, in fact I have to wonder if he was paying attention in law school when they were teaching Constitutional Process…

—V. Edward

V. Edward -

I took only two courses in law, in college, therefore, I am by no means well versed in the intricacies of constitutional interpretation. It appears there are three views of the how the Constitution should be used. 1) To interpret the Constitution strictly and literally in accordance with the times in which it was written as the Constitution Party believes, 2) to Interpret the Constitution as a living document written and used through our history as a guide in times and during events which are not directly addressed by the dated document. 3) The Hypocrite’s interpretation which says the Constitution should be interpreted strictly when ‘I’ need it to, and loosely, when ‘I’ need it to.

Our current U.S. Supreme Court Justice’s do not appear to fall into the 3rd category, but, as I said, I am not that well versed in case history of the Supreme Court. However, Judge Moore does appear to fall into the latter category, holding strict interpretation on the issue of religious reference while holding loose interpretation on his stand to dismiss the State Supreme Court’s ruling on the matter and stand in contempt of the very system the Constitution lays out.

I wouldn’t call the judge clueless !! The USA system of law/philosophy is the product of 17th and 18th century Anglican Protestantism. An example in philosophy is Locke’s First Treatise on Government where Locke sounds like a religious fundamentalist in his begining argument. Also Locke’s idea on religous toleration and his views on Christianity (i.e Locke’s book “The reasonableness of Christianity”) give a good example of where our American laws started from.
Primarily, that God exist. If you are an atheist your belief will be tolerated, but not considered valid.

We have a parallel situation in Judge Moore’s situation. Could Judge Moore be taking a Lockean (Anglican … Protestant) view that God’s existence is a given in American law ?

I would think so…. so in my humble opinion the Judge does have somewhat of a valid argument.

Have any of you ever read or heard the story, “The Emporers New Clothes”? You are so insecure and cowardly that you grasp at an idea that you are more intellegent than the rest of us because you have no strength to believe in the truth. As a result you mock those who have faith in something other than ego and self importance. You are pathetic.

Pedro Brown -
You’re a moron.
Our laws are in no way a reflection of christian principals. They are from English Common Law.

Atheism isn’t a belief, either.
Do you read much?

Yes, I mock those that have faith. They are ignorant and gullible.

However, the issue here is the displaying of religious doctrine in the public square of our government. It’s against equality and must go. If you want equality, you must agree.

Mushukyou,

You have an opinion and one shared by many. Thank you for sharing it here. However, it is inappropriate for a venue of debate to call fellow debaters names like Moron. There are other sites which cater to it, this site does not.

Your cooperation in this regard will be much appreciated. Thanks.

David R Remer

To Mr. V Edward and others.

The Ten commandments are the foundation of the law. The bacis truths in knowing where the law started, such as thou shall not kill , honor your mother and father. These are basic principles which it can apply to almost any situtation, for example safety in our schools. thou shall not covet thy or my new jacket.The Ten commandment placed in our school will save lives and assist student to focus on their school work rather than having shooting in our schools. I think the problem you all have is that the ten commandments is like to a morrior and you are afraid to look in to it with out finding the real truth . now don’t get to upset, it’s ok to admit you are wrong.YOU have a right to be wrong. The Ten commandments was here before your birth and it well still be here after you pass to your after life.

MGB
Mr.Bob

What happened to freedom of speach and freedom of religion? I think we have a double standard here. I do not believe in alot of things people do in this world but they have their right just the same. If I don’t belive the way someone else does I just look the other way. I am not that dependant that I have to do what everyone else is doing. I have a mind of my own and can think for myself. If someone does not belive in the 10 commandments then ignore them. You do not have to answer for anything I do and Thank goodness I don’t have to answer for what other people do. I don’t understand some Americans. Our entire country was founded on these principals but now they are no longer any good? Wake up! What does it hurt you if I say a prayer in school? It shouldn’t even if you don’t belive in what I do. I think some people are so miserable in their own lives that they try to make life miserable for others who are living right and enjoying it! It’s amazing the difference in someone when they start living for God! The actually are happy people with a LIFE!!!