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Stephen—

I agree with your reasoning, but I will go a step further. The Republican’s are increasingly the Party of hypocrites and vehemence I cannot not tolerate; e.g. while Bush says his party is one of inclusiveness, he continually declines the proffered hand of the NAACP to speak at their annual convention, and he has yet to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus. Does this speak to two organizations’ irrelevance vis-à-vis the body politic, or Bush’s real feelings about Black Americans? I’ll vote for the latter.

As for the Democrats: they no longer stand for anything I am willing to sigh on for. And the Democrats lack the leadership and political savvy of the Republican organization, and as a result, they have no coherent message to bring to the American people, and thus nothing to really offer. Witness, if you please, the over abundance of Democratic candidates running for Presidency.

That is why I feel more comfortable in the middle…

moderateindependent.com is nothing but a Bush bashing party. While the first article is ok, the rest (almost all) bash Bush. Relentlessly and anyone who is a conservative. These guys should just end the charade and be honest. here are the articles listed, I have read a lot of them.

Battling Back: The Texas Three-step

FBI Called In To Look For Missing Tax Cut Windfall

Savage Weiner Roasted Due To Anti-gay Rant

Let’s Get Something Straight: This New Breed Of Republican Is Pathetic

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“In fact, it’s really time to start kicking ass – not just playing defense, but getting pre-emptive on these pathetic Bush/Limbaugh lie and manipulate types. The damage is too substantial, the cause too important. I am out ta kick some ass and I ain’t stoppin’ until the last of these living jokes is bludgeoned back into the world of useful, honest, fair discourse.”

Republicans Begin To Cry Like Babies, Swear Like Bullies (??? fair and balanced? Moderate?)

“Pyrrhic Victory” Officially Renamed “Bush Victory” (how the “corporate” dictionary companies are bashing Bush)

AM Talk Host Savage Weiner Comes Out Of The Closet

Democrats Court The “Asshole Vote”

Democrats, Shocked And Awed As Gingrich Calls Bush’s Role In War An “Unrelenting Defeat”, Hire Him As New Spokesman (this is supposed to be humorous but only seves to prove that this guy is just a hard left Democrat who is pissed at his own party for not staying on message. All of these articles have the same tone )

Like Father, Like Son: Bush To “Destabilize” Iran, Thinking It Will Somehow Stabilize Region

Why People Don’t Belong To Either Party

On The Serious Side: President Bush’s Great Diplomatic Success (this is not what it sounds like)

Bush, Rove Start Planning Who to Blame, Bomb When 9/11 of Global Warming Arrives

Bush Admits He’s Been Asking “Wrong Jesus” What He Would Do (a not so funny diatribe about Bush being a coke-head, baseless and bitter)

Bush Hires Saddam’s Information Minister

Could Bush Really Be To Blame For Ruining The Economy? (of course the answer is yes and is based solely on the fact that Bush said the economy was bad and therefore made it bad)

Democrats Suffering From ‘SARS’

Is President Bush Being Exploitive, Landing “Top Gun” Style?

Santorum, Lott Sent Back To “Two-Shouldered” School

Tax Rate That Existed Throughout Booming Nineties Somehow Blamed For Current Downturn

Bush Thanks Osama, Saddam for Salvaging Republican Party

Schwarzenegger: “I’ll make Bush Seem Like Mother Teresa” (supposed humor, making Arnie out to be a nazi)

Carter Ecstatic, Finally Freed Of “Worst President Ever” Label

Dick, Bush, And Colin: Fifth Graders, World-Leaders Laugh Hysterically At leaders’ Combined Name Humor (stupid, childish, diatribe)

So much for the myth of centrism this guy is putting out there. I don’t think that there is such a thing.

pete, from another article, I was able to glean this bit of information regarding their standards of journalism and a valid reason IMO of why their writing appears to be left-leaning to you:

“Just write what is true,” he told me. “I don’t care who gets pounded in the process. And if it is the same guy or the same side that gets pounded every day because they have gone overboard, then pound them everyday.”

In the back of my mind I am always in conflict with my Liberal/Progressive politics and their affiliation with the Democratic Party.

I am fully aware that Democrats and Republican parties are tainted and at their heart corrupt. Very little of what passes for conservative philosophy these days conforms to my world view, yet Democratic ideals aren’t what they used to be and in some cases are far to my right. There has been a definite right turn across the US political spectrum since 1968.

In my time on this planet I have seen the erosion of tolerance and inclusion in US society and I attribute it to the rise in the far right and the strange magnetic pull they have over our culture. It’s undeniable that our society has become fractured and it’s not political. It’s economics. It’s the beginning of the American plutocracy. The haves and the have nots. The working class and the ruling class.

No amount of Republican rhetoric or Karl Rove manipulation will convince me that they are the party of inclusion or that Bush is a uniter and not a divider. I feel this packaged conservative philosphy runs counter to the core of Republican values. It runs counter to trickle down economics, pulling your own bootstraps and gritty individualist philosophy.

On the other hand, “centrist” Democrats, in their reactionary haste, are wrongly following the lead of Republicans by moving to the right. Democrats are denying their heritage and their political strength. They will succeed at their own demise if they continue to follow the Republicans to the right. Eventually they will look over their shoulder and there will be no-one behind them.

At that time, The majority of society, will be those people who have been edged out of the shrinking middle class. Ther will be more have nots than haves. There will be a peaceful revolution and voters will elect third party candidates who will truly represent the majority of American interests.

Stephen, I have found myself in the same boat as you. Fiscally, I am conservative, socially, I am liberal. I do not see a contradiction between the two. We have had a mixed economy of capitalism and socialism for more than 60 years now. It has resulted in our becoming the preeminent nation in the world and leader in most areas.

For me, being a moderate is all about moderation. Not too much capitalism which results in monoplism, and aggregation of the nation’s wealth into so few hands that the economy suffers and quality of life for the majority is diminished. And not too much socialism, which, diminishes entrepreneurism, busts budgets and fiscal responsibility, and can drain too much from capital investments and cutting edge development and risk taking.

For me it really boils down to budgeting; keeping quality of life as a highest priority on the one hand, and sustainable economic stability for small and large business and entrepreneurial capital formation, on the other.

I fear the Democrats and Republicans in their tug of war over the decades has resulted in far too much power being vested in the executive, with the consequence of abdication of responsibility by Congress for controlling the purse strings and the priorities of the majority of citizens.

Thanks for an article from a moderate point of view.

Pete, I agree with Stephen. That is the game that Newt Gingrich started and President Bush follows - if you lie constantly and endlessly you create a problem for the press and people. They can point out your lies once, maybe twice, but if they keep pointing out that you are lying every day, it makes it seem like they are being biased. Calling a liar a liar each time he lies does not make a person liberal or conservative, just right. And the reality is that the person who lies every day is the problem, not the one who points out that he is lying. The Republican Party, like this article said, was founded by Abraham Lincoln (you know, Honest Abe.) Lying is not a Republican thing or a Democrat thing, but it is a constant Bush thing, and he should never be let to get away with a single one of his lies just because he lies so constantly.