Iran - Avoiding Crossed Signals in a Rusty Echo Chamber

When the generally pro-Trump Washington Times runs a Bolton-is-dragging-USA-into-war-with-Iran story, you know that the Ben Rhodes echo chamber is back at work, trying to pressure the White House to save what’s left of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) or Iran Deal, lest Iran begin producing nuclear warheads (or would that be adding to their stock?). Unfortunately, the stakes are high because it involves Iran and the country its theocracy has sworn to destroy, Israel.

Iran is not Libya. Iran is not Afghanistan. It is larger, more complex and potentially far more dangerous than either of those, perhaps even moreso than Iraq. It is Shiite - to belabor a point - and for those of us who were old enough to care about the news in 1979-1980, the stage for a resurgence of Islamic political extremism. One with a hostile outward-looking - dare I say crusading? - perspective that at that point was not shared to any great extent in Saudi Arabia, their great Sunni rival. The chants of "Death to America" were one of the features of the angry young radicals who stormed the embassy in Tehran and took diplomats hostage in a crazed attempt to humiliate Washington.

Unfortunately, Jimmy Carter was in the White House, and they mostly got away with it.

The bombing in Beirut, the Soviet War in Afghanistan, the first attempt against the World Trade Center in 1993; what Iran set in motion under Ayatollah Khomeini at the dawn of the 80's spread and metastasized until it was Saudi Sunni's in the main who were responsible for 9/11. But Iran has always been central to radical Islamic terrorism, providing the propaganda, the troops, and the funds for terrorist activity from Europe to Buenos Aires.

A woman praying in front of an abortion clinic is not a theocracy as much as Brian Sims and AOC would have us believe. The mullahs in Tehran most definitely are. As, of course, are the Saudi's and the Gulf States, and Jordan as well.

How to keep nuclear weapons out of their hands?

Obama's administration was so committed to their grand deal that they forgot how to actually negotiate with any sort of spine and consistency. They may have even decided to conveniently ignore who they were dealing with. Yes, they managed to get much of the media on board and avoid unpleasant public debates about the Iran Deal. But a spun narrative does not necessarily make for well-thought-through agreement.

Unfortunately, we now have another war of the narratives. And it's more a case of what is not said rather than the talking points the media dutifully repeats. Here's Matthew Continetti with his piece from the Washington Free Beacon:

Members of the echo chamber aren't for attacking Iran, but they are all for slandering its American opponents. The latest target is Bolton. One of the most ferocious critics of President Obama, he has been an effective and hawkish national security adviser for President Trump. Why is he, not Iran, being blamed for heightened tensions? It's because the Iran deal, and perhaps the Iranian regime, is on life support.

Context is all. On April 8 the president announced he was designating the IRGC a terrorist organization, threatening its financial base. On April 22, Pompeo announced the United States would end waivers for sanctions on Iranian oil. That same day, Iran threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz. On May 8, one year after the United States withdrew from the nuclear deal, Iran threatened to follow suit.


Give them everything they're asking for or they'll go nuclear. That'll show them! As Continetti points out, these are the desperate acts of a regime under economic, political, and military pressure. The insane thing is that the talking points about National Security Advisor John Bolton pushing Trump into launching a pre-emptive strike on Iran came from Iranian officials. As Continetti points out:

It's a storyline that originated in Iran. Toward the end of April, Zarif showed up in New York and gave an interview to Reuters where he said, "I don't think [Trump] wants war," but "that doesn't exclude him basically being lured into one" by Bolton. On May 14, an adviser to Rouhani tweeted at Trump, "You wanted a better deal with Iran. Looks like you are going to get a war instead. That's what happens when you listen to the mustache. Good luck in 2020!"

In other words, the Iranian regime has picked up Ben Rhodes' echo chamber and fed it content of their own making. At least I hope Rhodes or John Kerry, or other officials haven't worked hand-in-glove with Tehran to craft a narrative intended to save the JCPOA. They wouldn't do that, would they?

Meanwhile Tom Rogan - as an educated Englishman seems compelled to do - provides a political and history lesson at The Washington Examiner on how Netanyahu's Israel does not in fact want a war with Iran:

In fact, the Israelis tend only to employ force where they believe doing so is the only option to save lives. The vast majority of Israeli intelligence activity is focused on gaining understanding of Iranian/proxy plans, interests, and activities.

The Israelis have good reason for this balanced approach. Ultimately, the Israeli security establishment recognizes that a violent escalatory struggle with Iran carries outsize risks.

So, the question is: Does John Bolton in fact want an escalation with Iran? Or has the media taken the Ben-Rhodes-Tehran narrative and run with it so hard it risks causing what they profess to want to avoid?

One has to hope that Iran knows perfectly well that former Obama administration as well as retired military and intel officials are trying to paint Trump as hapless and Bolton as an out of control hawk in order to resurrect the JCPOA. So, there's all sorts of signaling going on between the White House and Tehran but also between the administration and the Pentagon perhaps, and certainly within the foreign policy community as well.

Please. Please. Don't let's get signals crossed. We are probably much further from an unintended war with Iran than is being signaled in the press. But any sort of pre-emptive strike would unleash unpredictable and bloody consequences. A targeted bombing of nuclear facilities as happened in Iraq in 1981, courtesy of Israeli forces, would be the preferable option. And only if absolutely necessary.

Then again, the Israeli's likely know six ways from Sunday to sabotage a nuclear facility and make it look like an accident. There's an idea.

Posted by Keeley at May 22, 2019 5:31 PM
Comments
Comment #443758
Please. Please. Don’t let’s get signals crossed. We are probably much further from an unintended war with Iran than is being signaled in the press.
Yes, Please!

The Main Stream Media exaggerates, when it isn’t outright lying (which it does often, such as the last 2+ years for the collusion / obstruction hoax).

I temporarily lived in Tehran, Iran in 1972-1973.
It was much different then.
Iran has taken 10 HUGE steps backwards since then, and I think the majority of the Iranian people are sad about it.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 22, 2019 9:56 PM
Comment #443785

While the chickenhawks try to bully Iran into a war and according to lying Don we have a crisis at the southern border ">https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trump-golf-102-million-taxpayers-094500724.html”> the hypocrite Trump still has time to run his personal business on the taxpayers dime.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 23, 2019 8:26 AM
Comment #443787

“Bully Iran” ?
Nonsense.
Iran provides missiles and arms to Hamas, and provided the 700+ missiles to the Palestinians and Hamas, who fired them at Israel recently.
Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism.
Oh, so there’s still no crisis at the border?
Never mind 2,000+ homicides per year by non-citizens.
It is also pathetic and dishonest how many Democrats (and similar ilk) blame Republicans, Border Patrol, and ICE for deaths of illegal immigrants, when it is the majority of Democrats who despicably lure immigrants to the U.S., so that the Democrats can get higher decennial census vote counts (which don’t verify citizenship), which leads to more electoral votes, and more federal funding (proving that there is no low that Democrats won’t stoop to for more votes, money, and power).

Posted by: d.a.n at May 23, 2019 9:39 AM
Comment #443798
Oh, so there’s still no crisis at the border?

According to Trump it is a national crisis D.. The issue is how can the man who criticized Obama for golfing instead of running the country break a campaign promise to run his business on the taxpayers dime and make expensive golfing trips during such a crisis?

The question is how can his supporters turn a blind eye to this excess.

Lets play which president said this

1. “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m fucked.” Yes the answer is Donald Trump

2. How many innocent presidents have said this in the past?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 23, 2019 2:16 PM
Comment #443800

j2t2, the 2016 election is over. Stop whining. Got over it.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 23, 2019 2:22 PM
Comment #443802

OH my God, the Progressive Socialists have taken over the Democrat Party. They are fucked.

How many times has j2t2 helped destroy the Dem Party?

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 23, 2019 3:00 PM
Comment #443805

I never saw the Democrat party so negatively, as I have since 2016, when the Democrats adopted all of the following as their platform, which clearly demonstrates how low many Democrats will stoop for more votes, money, and power, based on the following 15 facts (notice the common-thread in all of the following):

  • (01) because many Democrats despicably pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, by pandering to illegal immigrants for 30+ years for more votes, via more representation in the House, via more U.S. House representatives, via re-apportionment of representatives (i.e. more electoral votes, and more federal funding), based on population, which is based on the decennial CENSUS, which does not verify U.S. citizenship; therefore, districts, counties, and states with higher decennial CENSUS numbers (since citizenship is not verified), receive more electoral votes, and more federal funding, based on population (of which many tens of millions are non-citizens), and it is also a way to turn RED states to BLUE states.
  • (02) because many Democrats are also fighting against a [x]check-box on the decennial CENSUS, despite the check-box being totally inadequate to prove citizenship. Democrats disguise their desire for power (for THEIR party) as compassion for illegal immigrants, while despicably pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes and money. Even if their compassion was genuine, it is severely misplaced.
  • (03) because many Democrats (and most of the main stream media) lie about crime by illegal immigrants, and refuse to report the 2,000 homicides per year by criminal non-citizens; and about 32% of everyone in federal prison is a criminal non-citizen;
  • (04) because many Democrats, and most of the main stream media, lie about how massive illegal (or legal) immigration is costing U.S. tax payers hundreds of billion$ per year ($296 Billion per year by this estimate) in net losses (which does not include all costs, and does not include the cost of crime by criminal non-citizens); that is a net loss of about $2,349.00 per year per household (126.22 Million households in 2017; U.S. population=323 Million in 2017); also see this daily ticker (at OANN.com, KlowdTV.com) of the daily cost (about $0.75 Billion per day) due to rampant illegal immigration (excluding the cost of many crimes and about 2,000 homicides per year by criminal non-citizens );
  • (05) because many Democrats are calling for open borders, and refuse to adequately fund the building of more border barriers;
  • (06) because many Democrats are calling to abolish I.C.E. (Immigration and Customs Enforcement);
  • (07) because many Democrats want another shamnesty, like the shamnesty of 1986;
  • (08) because many Democrats refuse legislation to (a)require employers to use eVerify (to verify eligibility for employment); (b)to stop the abuse of asylum laws; and (c)stop the abuse of birth-right citizenship (women from all over the world are booking vacations to the U.S. to give birth, so that their child will have U.S. citizenship);
  • (09) because many Democrats want to give illegal immigrants drivers’ licenses, and also automatically register them to vote; illegal voting by non-citizens is widespread in all states;
  • (10) because many Democrats want more mayors like Libby Schaaf (Oakland, CA), who warns illegal immigrants (including criminal illegal immigrants) before an ICE raid to arrest criminal illegal immigrants;
  • (11) want more sanctuary cities and states, like California, where Democrats have passed sanctuary city and sanctuary state laws that protect criminal illegal immigrants (such as an illegal immigrant by the name of Garcia Zarate murdered Kate Steinle (who had already been deported 5 times, and convicted 3 times for felonies for manufacturing narcotics), and was then acquitted for that murder, despite Zarate admitting to shooting the weapon that killed Kate Steinle, which should have been, at the very least, manslaughter);
  • (12) because many Democrats want to abolish the 2nd amendment, but many Democrats and many on the left call for restricting or eliminating 2nd Amendment rights, and say it is worth it “even if it saves only ONE life”, but hypocritically ignore 2,000 homicides per year by criminal non-citizens (source: www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf ; site2data.com/homicides1.html), and the costs (source: KlowdTV.com);
  • (13) because many Democrats (including Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, etc.) want to pass new laws to allow criminals to vote (including murderers, rapists, child molestors, etc.), because they know that a vast majority of criminals will vote Democrat (because the Democrat party is essentially famous for pandering for votes, as they have also done by pandering to illegal immigrants). Is there no low that Democrats will not stoop to in order to acquire more power?
  • (14) because many Democrats are promising reparations for black people (including Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, etc.). Nevermind that it would be punishing people that have harmed nobody. It is yet another item in the long (and growing) list of things that Democrats will do for more votes and power. In fact, many Americans’ ancestors had nothing to do with slavery, because they immigrated to the U.S. after slavery was abolished. Reparations are unconstitutional, since the 13th Amendment states “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States …”. Since no living Americans can be convicted of slavery, it would be unconstitutional to subject Americans to the economic “involuntary servitude” of paying reparations;
  • (15) because many Democrats, in many sanctuary states, allow illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition, while U.S. citizens from other states must pay higher out-out-state tuition; Democrat-controlled New York state legislature passed a law giving financial assistance for college to illegal immigrants in U.S. high-schools; several sanctuary states passed legislation to allow illegal immigrants to attend tuition-free community colleges; again, the Democrats will do anything for more votes, and power;
    NOTE: Non-criminal illegal immigrants merely looking for work are not the true villains. The truly despicable villains are many Democrats and similar ilk, who despicably pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for more votes, money, and power.
The common-thread in all of the above is that Democrats are motivated by their desire for more power for THEIR party, by despicably pitting U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for more decennial CENSUS votes (which does not verify citizenship), which give Democrats more electoral votes, more federal funding, and more power (see (01) and (02) above).

Posted by: d.a.n at May 23, 2019 3:10 PM
Comment #443806

And Obama’s deal with Iran, and giving Iran billions of dollars, was one of the most stupid things any president ever did.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 23, 2019 3:13 PM
Comment #443811

Hahahahaha…. the election is over….good one Royal. Fine use of trumpery trumpery by a Trump follower.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 23, 2019 4:29 PM
Comment #443812

Well thank you very much j2. If by Trump “follower” you mean approval of his efforts to help America, and Americans, then I am your guy.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 23, 2019 4:40 PM
Comment #443815

It’s amazing how much some peoples’ affliction (i.e. TDS) has deteriorated since 2016.
Trump! Trump!T rump! Trump!
Russia! Russia! Russia! Russia!
Collusion! Collusion! Collusion!
Obstruction ! Obstruction ! Obstruction (of non-existent crime) !
Do you think they will ever get over it?

Posted by: d.a.n at May 23, 2019 5:46 PM
Comment #443817
The question is how can his supporters turn a blind eye to this excess.

The same way the left did, j2t2.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/13/obama-first-lady-flew-separate-planes-la-same-day/

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 23, 2019 6:09 PM
Comment #443818

There has been a lot of video coverage of Nancy Pelosi the last couple of days.

Is she ill? She looks and sounds terrible. I fear the strain of attacking President Trump with false charges of “cover-up” are beginning to take a toll.

When asked to define what the president is covering up; she begins to wilt and slur her words. She really needs to “pray” for herself while we CONTINUE to pray for the president and the country.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 23, 2019 6:30 PM
Comment #443819

Pelosi’s praying for the President was laughable, because it was so fake.
Pelosi is stabbing a person in the back one moment, and then praying for them the next.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 23, 2019 6:58 PM
Comment #443820

Pelosi may be losing it?
Remember, she thinks Congress is the “superior branch” of the three branches of government.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 23, 2019 7:11 PM
Comment #443822

By the way, so far, Obama spent $12 Million more than Trump for transportation. But then, Obama was not donating his salary to charity either.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 23, 2019 7:41 PM
Comment #443823

The S××T just got real Trump give Barr authority to reclassify documents relating to investigations of 2016 campaign. I can just see the democrats crapping their pants now.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 23, 2019 7:42 PM
Comment #443824

That’s DECLASSIFY

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 23, 2019 7:44 PM
Comment #443826

It would be funny as hell if the entire 2+ year collusion/obstruction hoax backfires on the Democraps.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 23, 2019 8:17 PM
Comment #443828

Got a feeling there are buses that will have a lot of democrats checking out the under carriages of them.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 23, 2019 9:49 PM
Comment #443861
There has been a lot of video coverage of Nancy Pelosi the last couple of days.

To bad when you guys have to doctor the video isn’t it?

When you have to tell everyone you are an extreme stable genius,the chances are you shovel horse s**t.

The national disgrace we call president Trump is using his office to attack his political enemies. Worthy of the “Adolph” award IMHO. The faux investigation of law enforcement and the intelligence community is nothing more than propaganda to influence his followers. Before you mess yourself from all the excitement remember this is the guy who told us ““Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked.” Wonder how may of those under investigation by Trumps gestapo are saying anything close to that. My bet is zero.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 8:28 AM
Comment #443862

Hearsay, Your Honor! Motion to strike!

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 24, 2019 8:53 AM
Comment #443864

Weary when your side uses the office of president to mount a propaganda campaign against the opposition party you violate the rule of law and the Constitution. To then respond with a legal request is very hypocritical IMHO.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 10:38 AM
Comment #443866

j2t2, Do you have anything of substance to offer? Where is the evidence of a crime?

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 10:55 AM
Comment #443867

Putin’s b**ch in the process out selectively outing CI and methods for the world to see.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 11:02 AM
Comment #443869

Whaaa!
Prove it.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 11:10 AM
Comment #443870

But you wanted the non-redacted Mueller report made public?

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 11:10 AM
Comment #443871

The important parts of the hoax can be revealed without revealing secrets.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 11:17 AM
Comment #443873
Do you have anything of substance to offer? Where is the evidence of a crime?

This from the guy who offers up an old accusation about the Obama’s as a defense for Trumps excesses! Lol. Such a double standard Weary, when Trump claims he won’t be golfing , whilst insulting Obama, you guys use it to persecute Obama. Then Trump, after lying about it, spends so much more time and money golfing and conducting personal business then the Obama’s! It was an issue then but now it’s not. It needs to be a crime for you to address it! But then you deny it anyways!

What does that tell us about how low Trump has set the bar for our politicians? The lack of integrity, veracity and mortal fiber of so-called conservatives is on display while Trump violates the rule of law and the Constitution. Conservative aren’t holding their elected officials to their word. The corruption of running his business from the white house on the taxpayers dime is alright with conservatives as long as they are in power.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 11:48 AM
Comment #443874

What hoax , the unproven conspiracy theory Trump uses to keep his worshipers in line?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 11:50 AM
Comment #443875

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD_IINiH9c

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 11:57 AM
Comment #443876

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP7wGMmRNqc

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 12:04 PM
Comment #443877

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I6yLWSXBtw

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 12:08 PM
Comment #443879

Again, Obama’s deal with Iran, and giving Iran billions of dollars, was one of the most stupid things any president ever did.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 12:25 PM
Comment #443880

2 years and $35 million 1.5 million documents, witnesses, FBI agents, and I think 19 lawyers (democrats and Clinton donors) plus house investigations and Senate investigations no collusion no obstruction and j2t2 still comes up with stupid comments. Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler, Schiff and the rest of the IDIOTS that call themselves democrats are all delusional and in need of intervention as Pelosi think Trump needs.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 24, 2019 12:27 PM
Comment #443881

CNN and MSNBC’s ratings have fallen more, most likely due to watchers (probably independent voters, mostly) not being happy about FAKE collusion and obstruction news, and other abuses.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 1:03 PM
Comment #443883

Why we just don’t trust conservative logic

KAP have you ever heard the expression No room to talk. On top of that you actually believe the known liar Trump when he says no collusion, no obstruction. Despite The Mueller report not saying any such thing.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 1:44 PM
Comment #443884

The Mueller report contains nothing about collusion, and without a crime, there is no obstruction. Duh!
Get over it.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 1:47 PM
Comment #443885

J2, collusion, obstruction, didn’t work. They go after Barr, Mcghan, and a couple of former aides, that ain’t working, his finance records will end up a court battle. Now it’s a cover up! You j2 and the rest of your peanut gallery are getting more ridiculous by the minute. You guys lost get over it.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 24, 2019 2:03 PM
Comment #443886

The more the Democrats whine, the more voters (mostly independent voters) that laugh at the democrat party.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 2:12 PM
Comment #443887

or (increasingly, more independent voters) …

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 2:14 PM
Comment #443888

speaking of peanut gallery

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 2:18 PM
Comment #443892

Ha ha! Who can tell the difference?

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 2:25 PM
Comment #443893

You said a guy in the room said Trump said what you are quoting him as saying. When you get video of him saying that, let me know. I’d like to see it. Otherwise, it’s just hearsay. It’s just another dirty pair of under ware thrown against the wall.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 24, 2019 2:36 PM
Comment #443894

What conservative don’t understand is were Trump not president and Barr was impartial in his role he would have been charged based upon the evidence detailed in the Mueller report.

Of course you guys, victims of the best propaganda machine since the Nazi’s, believe what Trump says despite his record for lying. What we are seeing is corruption, filling the swamp in your vernacular, at the highest level of the government. You guys turning a blind eye to this is hurting the country. All for power and greed.

Can’t wait for Trumps gestapo to go after the Intelligence agencies and the FBI with his false accusations. He has no reason for not being able to prove his lies. He has given Barr unprecedented access to declassify anything he wants to. Should set the country back decades just so Trump can attempt to cover his lying a**. Hopefully him and Barr will pay for this damage.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 2:36 PM
Comment #443895

j2, The only ones who are going to pay are the lying conniving Democraps. When you leave your make believe world and step back into reality let us know. As d.a.n. says you and the rest of your peanut gallery are the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 24, 2019 2:47 PM
Comment #443896

j2t2, I suggest volunteering at a pet rescue. You’ll have puppies humping your leg in no time. Or you could watch cute pet videos, or the ones of the guy that plays piano for elderly elephants. The Icelandic Opera put up a video of their production of La Traviata today on YT. Operavision put up a Soottish production of Anthropocene last week.

After some emails to the “editor”, our “author”, “Keeley” put up some posts to distract from the watchblog joke. This one has holes in it big enough to drive a truck through, and some bait which I didn’t take. If the author doesn’t respond to the discussion of the article, you end up with what’s above here, puppies seeking attention.

Happy Memorial Day Weekend to all who recognize the holiday. Confederate Memorial Day was a little earlier for all those fans of statues of traitors, but Dixie Day is coming up towards the end of July, usually one of the hottest days of the year. I encourage the fans of tre45on to celebrate outdoors on that day.

Posted by: ohrealy at May 24, 2019 3:20 PM
Comment #443898

Anger, KAP, you anger is clouding your reasoning abilities. Take a moment to ask yourself why an innocent man would say “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked.”. He thought Sessions would protect him, hence the appointment. But Sessions recused himself instead. Then and only then did Trump turn on Sessions. Is that what an innocent president does? Were it the dems attacking Trump without cause a sane president wouldn’t tell anyone he is f**cked.

In our democracy elections are sacred. To have foreign interference and possible collusion with any candidate on any level is serious. To think that an oligarchy would attack our system of government makes sense. They can rake in billions with the right guy. But to think a candidate would collude with this oligarchy to win an election is more than most of us want to accept. I can understand those that support Trump run and hide from the truth. It is a means of protecting yourselves from the reality of the situation.

But is it worth it in the long run?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 3:29 PM
Comment #443899

Sessions was caught with Rosenstein eating at a restaurant across the street from “Tr-mp’s” hotel, putting money in someone else’s pocket. That probably didn’t help.

Posted by: ohrealy at May 24, 2019 3:39 PM
Comment #443900

J2, anger clouding my reasoning? No j2. Of course an innocent man would think that he was F××ked if phony BULLS××T accusations were stacked up against him. Like I said 2 years, $35 million spent, 1.5 million pages of documents, FBI agent, I think 19 lawyers and staff (all Clinton donors), the witness’, plus investigations by the house and Senate turn up NOTHING. Yet in your mind you and the IDIOTS in congress can’t accept the FACT you lost. Mueller was supposed to be your savior but he screwed you and now you are so upset YOU J2 are the one with clouded reasoning along with your little peanut gallery.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Comment #443902

Where is the proof of a crime?
Please show us proof.
We won’t hold our breath, since none has been found.|
Has anyone ever seen such cry babies ?

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 4:21 PM
Comment #443903

The desperation among Democrats is palpable. Their heavy breathing in the past few days is not se*ual excitement; but fear of the coming day of reckoning for their political sins.

I have never been more proud of any president than I am of President Trump opening up the rat-holes sheltering official government treason.

We all have called for more open government, more transparency; and yet, when it happens, the Left yells foul. These people are despicable…shun them.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 24, 2019 4:22 PM
Comment #443904

By the way, someone saying “I’m f****d” is not a crime, and proves nothing.
Is that the best you can do?

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 4:23 PM
Comment #443905
These people are despicable…shun them.
Yes, any party that does all of THIS, is most certainly despicable.
There appears to be no low that Democrats will stoop to for more votes, money, and power.
Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 4:38 PM
Comment #443906

j2t2, ohrealy, Did you think giving Iran billions of dollars and the Iran deal was a good thing?

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 4:41 PM
Comment #443907
By the way, someone saying “I’m f****d” is not a crime, and proves nothing.

No one said it was a crime, but ask yourself how many innocent people have said that. It does prove he had something to hide IMHO. I would think most reasonable people could agree it takes a guilty man to say “This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked.” To put it in a way you can understand D., think if it was a decent president, say Obama, that said the same thing would you still feel the same way? I remember when he said “Guantanamo will be closed no later than one year from now.” and the accusations from guys like you that he intentionally lied.

Is that the best you can do?

I was wondering the same about you. The deflection with the “it isn’t a crime” deception was weak. I am surprised you haven’t resorted to the weak cut and paste of my previous comments taken out of context. Your denial of this shows just how far you have lowered the integrity moral backbone and honesty bar for Trump.

j2t2, ohrealy, Did you think giving Iran billions of dollars and the Iran deal was a good thing?

D., are you referring to giving Iran their money back to them? I do wonder if by billions you are spreading the Trump half truths that other conservative propagandist have been spreading as truth. Remember if Trump said it the probability is it is a lie.

To answer the question yes the agreement was fair for all. The money was theirs we held. We should give it back. The issue of nuclear power and nuclear bombs is tough but doing the dirty work of Israel when they have nuclear weapons is wrong. Trump and the chickenhawks bullying Iran after we agreed with the other nations, Britain, Russia,et al is wrong.

Of course an innocent man would think that he was F××ked if phony BULLS××T accusations were stacked up against him.

Lol Really KAP! So did you hear Obama telling his AG “”This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked.” when conservative propagandist leveled one phony charge after another against him and his administration? Me neither. I would suggest it is because he was in fact innocent of the false accusations, unlike Trump.

If the author doesn’t respond to the discussion of the article, you end up with what’s above here, puppies seeking attention.

Nice description of our friends here on WB. Just wish they would get their shots as they seem a bit rabid when confronted with truth after all the propaganda they eat up.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 24, 2019 6:04 PM
Comment #443908

LOL…our Liberal/Progressive/Socialist Pal j2t2 hangs his entire argument regarding President Trump on a few frustrated words he uttered upon Jeff Sessions telling him that a special counsel had been appointed.

Here are the presidents words that followed; that j2t2, the corrupt media, and Democrats never acknowledge.

“Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me.”

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 24, 2019 6:20 PM
Comment #443909

I don’t know j2 if Obama said he was F××ked, he could have, as well as Bush, Clinton, Bush, And so on. With the media, democrats in congress, and other agencies hating Trump and looking for any way to get him out even a fart in the Oval office would be a major scandal to them. So let’s just cut with the BULLS××T, there was no crime and there was no obstruction no matter how you spin it the only ones who got F××KED are you and the rest of the democrats and your little peanut gallery here because Mueller didn’t produce what you wanted. Sorry J2 but you lost, boo boo boo boo.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 24, 2019 6:34 PM
Comment #443911

The bottom line is that the Democrats tried to weaponize the federal government to take down Trump with a hoax, and it not only failed, but may backfire.
And that is why so many Democrats (and similar ilk) are going berserk.
They can sure dish it out, but they sure can’t take it.
Hence, the Democrats have now earned the title of the biggest crybabies of the year—> all time !. WHHHAAAaaaaa!
By the way, again, where is the proof of a crime?
I hope the Democraps actually continue the impeachment nonsense, because CNN’s and MSNBC’s ratings will continue to plummet, and more independent voters will abandon the Democrap party (which is what matters; not the brainwashed Democrats also seriously afflicted with from TDS).

Posted by: d.a.n at May 24, 2019 10:09 PM
Comment #443925

First of all you guys need to stop acting as if Trump wasn’t lying when he said “no collusion no obstruction”. Then when your handpicked AG chooses to not indict realize that is the very definition of corruption. So yes Trump so far has evaded justice and has let his capos take the fall. Trump won this round but America lost. Corruption won, the people of this country lost. But please continue to deflect by attacking our intelligence and law enforcement community. Continue to deflect by condoning Trump using the office of president to attack his political opponents without cause.

But look back at other presidents in our life time and ask yourself did Nixon tell his AG “”This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked.”? Did the previous most corrupt administration in recent history, Reagan, tell his AG “”This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked.”? Did Clinton tell his AG ”This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked.” ? Did Carter, GWHB, GWB, or Obama tell their AG’s ”This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m f**ked.”

Then quit kidding yourselves and face reality, your “drain the swamp ” president is a liar and con man who convinced you he was cleaning the swamp while actually filling the swamp. Because as even Roy will tell you we get what we deserve in our government. When you deflect and protect a known liar like Putin’s b**ch you don’t deserve better.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 25, 2019 10:07 AM
Comment #443926

While we are at it lets put the kabosh on another conservative/national populist/neo-fascist/neo-nazi/authoritarian myth

Posted by: j2t2 at May 25, 2019 10:11 AM
Comment #443928

I think J2 has joined phx8 in the grocery store reading those tabloids.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 25, 2019 11:31 AM
Comment #443930

j2t2, what other president in our history waited until he was out of office to improve the economy? What other president waited 8 years for his economic policies to kick in?

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 25, 2019 1:35 PM
Comment #443932

“Then when your handpicked AG chooses to not indict realize that is the very definition of corruption.”

Wake up j2t2. You slept through your education and missed the fact that every president “handpicks” his cabinet. It’s not too late to study and get your GED.

Our impaired Pal j2t2 also believes that not indicting someone must be a corrupt act. Please get help Pal.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 25, 2019 4:00 PM
Comment #443934

Some people have a serious obsession (i.e. TDS), and are so blinded by hate, that they can’t see how ridiculous they have become.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 25, 2019 4:29 PM
Comment #443936

Along with TDS I think our liberal friends have CNN and MSNBC Fact Confusion Virus. Also j2 used Yahoo financial news as a link, that is like using CNN for facts.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 25, 2019 4:39 PM
Comment #443937

Can anyone recall an “original idea” ever presented by j2t2?

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 25, 2019 4:57 PM
Comment #443939

Most Democrats today would be politically unrecognizable to their parents or grandparents. Previous generations of Democrats valued honesty, morality, and logical thinking.

Today’s Democrats have become un-tethered from their roots. They fall for every stupid scheme that some smooth-talking con artist can conjure up.

Name a Democrat of thirty years ago who would…

Call for a guaranteed national income

Believe we could control global climate

Allow abortionist’s to murder infants born alive

Allow anyone to enter our country illegally and protect them in sanctuary cities

Air lift hundreds of millions of dollars to a country who has sworn to destroy us

Obtain FISA warrants to spy on American citizens based upon unverifiable information

Allow children to determine their own s*x

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD TO MY LIST.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 25, 2019 5:13 PM
Comment #443941
Can anyone recall an “original idea” ever presented by j2t2?

j2t2 won’t even answer a simple question put to him. He simply criticizes the person for asking it. He can’t back up what he says. That is apparent in his obsession with Pelosi and her beliefs her house is superior. j2t2 couldn’t even admit she said it, let alone correct her for saying it.

The only thing holding j2t2 and the Left together is hatred. Their hatred blinds them beyond reason.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 25, 2019 5:30 PM
Comment #443942

Royal Flush, I’d like to add to your list.

Everything the Federal government does that is not defined in the Constitution.

Remember, it was a Democratic who said the constitution is a “living document”.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 25, 2019 5:38 PM
Comment #443943

Would any of the items on Royal Flush’s list be possible if the Federal government acted within the confines of the U.S. Constitution?

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 25, 2019 5:40 PM
Comment #443944

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 25, 2019 5:43 PM
Comment #443945

You are correct Weary. Our Founders gave us a Democratic Republic and tasked us to keep it by following the actual words in the Constitution; not some hair-brained and corrupt new meaning.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 25, 2019 6:02 PM
Comment #443955
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD TO MY LIST.
Here’s the Democrats’ platform, and their grand (despicable) scheme to turn RED states to BLUE states.
The Democrats don’t care one bit about the 2,000+ people murdered every year by criminal non-citizens.
It’s not easy to get more despicable than that.
Posted by: d.a.n at May 26, 2019 9:56 AM
Comment #443958

I said this guy was a Democratic! Now he just proved it with his own words.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/05/25/brooks-i-think-were-going-to-move-in-the-direction-of-impeachment/

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 26, 2019 1:27 PM
Comment #443967
what other president in our history waited until he was out of office to improve the economy? What other president waited 8 years for his economic policies to kick in

What president period Weary. This gross distortion of the facts spells desperation. You act like the economy didn’t crash and their was no recovery from the crash until Trump took over, of course the facts say you are wrong. This type of denial proves my point about the myths you guys need to sustain your delusions.

You slept through your education and missed the fact that every president “handpicks” his cabinet. It’s not too late to study and get your GED.

WTF is wrong with you guys Royal, have you been chewing stupid pills? How many presidents handpick their AG based upon loyalty to the president not and the country? Got rid of essions for not covering for him then picked the a**kisser Barr.

Can anyone recall an “original idea” ever presented by j2t2?

Oh please Royal like you or any of your crew ever had an original idea! If it weren’t for conservative propaganda outlets you wouldn’t have a thought let alone an original thought.

They fall for every stupid scheme that some smooth-talking con artist can conjure up

Wow talking about the pot calling the kettle black! The very definition of con artist is Trump ffs.

I swear you guys are so desperate grasping at these foolish straws of yours. Not one intelligent comment from conservatives/oligarchs/authoritarians in days.

Name a Democrat of thirty years ago who would…

Call for a guaranteed national income

Name anyone who would have thought 30 years ago humans would be replaced by robots. Exploring options as the world changes is wise IMHO not something to be derided by those to old to have an original thought.


Believe we could control global climate

How about ">https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1912-article-global-warming/”> a warning on burning coal from 1912? or if that is to much how about naming a conservative today that can actually make intelligent queries not misdirection on any subject.

Air lift hundreds of millions of dollars to a country who has sworn to destroy us

Or a Dem that would renege on a deal and keep the money for years, until the interest owed required an air lift. Interfering in another country’s politics, as we did in Iran since the 50’s, has unintended consequences. Making it sound like we were giving Iran our money is subterfuge, the sign of a weak position. Unless of course you guys are thief’s.

Obtain FISA warrants to spy on American citizens based upon unverifiable information

Or a repub who would be an unregistered agent of a foreign government,Russia, working on an election campaign.

You are correct Weary. Our Founders gave us a Democratic Republic and tasked us to keep it by following the actual words in the Constitution; not some hair-brained and corrupt new meaning.

Are you guys talking about the NRA reinterpretation of the 2nd amendment?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 26, 2019 4:08 PM
Comment #443971

Again, j2t2 has nothing constructive to say.

My point exactly, j2t2. There are no presidents who willingly waits until they exit office to improve an economy. To think Obama was the first is delusional. Are you seriously trying to get us to believe he planned his economic recovery to finally show up after he leaves office? Ha!

Why would we be expected to pay interest on assets held because of an act of war? You really don’t think about what you write, do you, j2t2?

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 26, 2019 7:36 PM
Comment #443972

How many handpick their AG, J2? I think it was Holder who said he was Obama’s “WING MAN”. So lets cut with the BULLS**T you lost and no amount of spinning will change it.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 26, 2019 8:53 PM
Comment #443973

Weary, still pretending Trump is the savior of the economy! My god man get a clue. What was said in this article that you don’t understand? The graphs and charts we have seen at various times in the last few months show the upward trend of the economy since the great recession. Trumps numbers are not as great as he somehow makes you believe it is. They aren’t bad but they aren’t the greatest ever. Remember he has ran up the debt/deficit to get to this point.

These are just facts Weary, not some made up con rhat you choose to believe. Pull your head out of Trumps a** long enough to cipher the truth.

As far as Iran… what war with Iran are you talking about” anyway the short answer is because we agreed to as part of an agreement. Do you support thuggery by the US as a means to steal monies due other countries?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 26, 2019 9:09 PM
Comment #443976

Obama ran the debt up $10 trillion in 8 years doubling Bush’s $5 t. saying it was unpatriotic to do that of Bush yet he doubled it yet the economy was stagnant. Obama’s economy was a joke.j2

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 26, 2019 10:47 PM
Comment #443983

KAP, the only joke was the last few years of you guys denying the truth. The facts were presented to you guys at various times the past year and you still can’t accept it. That is the joke and the joke is on you.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 27, 2019 1:33 AM
Comment #443992

because the man will lie about anything and everything

Posted by: j2t2 at May 27, 2019 10:50 AM
Comment #443993

J2 The 8 years of Obama was a joke. Facts? You don’t know the meaning of the word FACT. You want us to believe you and what you present yet dismiss what is presented to you.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 27, 2019 10:54 AM
Comment #444003

Hmmm…let’s see; for four years Obama blamed President Bush for his own engineering of the worst economic recovery from a recession since the great depression.

After spending $10,000 Billion (that’s $10 Trillion for j2t2) in additional national debt, Obama blamed huge unemployment numbers and anemic GDP on factors beyond his control.

Jobs have returned to our shores, unemployment is at historic lows, the economy is humming at nearly 3% annual growth, retirement funds and pension plans are once again producing growth, and our enemies now fear our military strength and presidential resolve.

And; President Obama is still taking credit. His only contribution to our great recovery is not being president any more; or ever again.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 27, 2019 1:56 PM
Comment #444009

I feel like I am arguing with 5 year old children who don’t have the ability to comprehend anything. Little kids who ignore facts so they can lie for each other. Except of course little kids do have a certain integrity and moral fiber about them.

You guys, whether you be Conservatives, Oligarchs, Neo-Nazi, Neo-Fascist and/or Authoritarians, on the other hand have exhausted your ability to reason and have dumped any integrity, credibility and ethics you may have once had. All because you desperately attempt to keep up the pretense that Trump isn’t a f**king idiot without a moral compass. The pretense that Trump cares for you and other Americans even while he raises the debt during what you guys call the best economy ever.

The man has lied to us so many times, yet you defend each and every lies while using these same lies to blame others for his lack of integrity. I guess it is because you are wore out from pretending the man you voted for to lead the country is anything other than a small time con-artist. A Hollywood elitist that you would otherwise believe to be part of the problem.

To hear you guys one would believe that manufacturing jobs didn’t start coming back to the US until Trump cut taxes yet that simply isn’t the case. Yet you fall for the Big Lie and insist his lies are true. Trumpery at it’s finest, the rubes are so easily fooled they think the propaganda they call facts are true while the MSM is wrong. The level of absurdity is laughable were it not true. Baby Boomers the lot of you, yet all of you together cannot come up with anything beyond a 5 year olds ability to separate fact from fiction.

So easily led by Trump, so easily fooled by his propaganda machine. So desperate for him to be a decent president you guys will believe the liar at any cost. All to protect your political beliefs. The fact is Trump was handed a good economy yet he has increased the national debt with handouts for the wealthy and corporations. Yet you fools blame Obama for the debt that was added while cleaning up the aftermath of the great recession. Even when tax cuts were one reason for the debt increase.

From the inauguration when Trump had to lie about crowd size to save his ego from humiliating itself to today when he sided with North Korea firing off rockets because the dictator insulted a potential political opponent! How f**king stupid do you have to be to support this loser?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 27, 2019 7:01 PM
Comment #444012

Question: How do you get Trump to change a light bulb?

Answer: You don’t. Trump will lie about changing the light bulb and conservatives/national populist/oligarchs/neo-nazi/neo-fascist/authoritarians will sit in the dark claiming he did change the light bulb.

And that pretty much sums up the political reality of America today.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 27, 2019 8:08 PM
Comment #444016

HHHMMMmmm … but CNN and MSNBC seem to have the plummeting ratings.
Perhaps it is due to all the FAKE NEWS they spread ?

Here’s what Obama gave us.

Here’s what Democrats have to offer.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 27, 2019 10:36 PM
Comment #444017

IF most people were so easily fooled by the FAKE NEWS MEDIA, then everyone on this blog, and all across the nation would be brainwashed Democrats, because the vast majority of the Main Stream Media is the left arm of the Democrat party.

Still, CNN and MSNBC seem to have the plummeting ratings, because some people (i.e. probably more and more independent voters) now realize that the 2+ year investigations was all a huge hoax. Hard core Democrats are now whining when all the lies proved the entire thing to be a hoax, and are now blaming everyone (i.e. Mueller, Barr, etc., etc., etc.), and some of them are turning on each other.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 27, 2019 10:44 PM
Comment #444018
j2t2 wrote: You guys, whether you be Conservatives, Oligarchs, Neo-Nazi, Neo-Fascist and/or Authoritarians, on the other hand have exhausted your ability to reason and have dumped any integrity, credibility and ethics you may have once had.
Here we go again.
j2t2 is calling people Nazis and Fascists again.
Many thanks to j2t2 for being the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: d.a.n at May 27, 2019 10:56 PM
Comment #444020

That is pathetically weak D., The fake news… because Trump says so! The liar tells you the free press is fake and you repeat it like it was true.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 28, 2019 1:30 AM
Comment #444034

It is many people of the U.S.A. that think CNN and MSNBC (and similar ilk) are FAKE NEWS, based on a 2+ year hoax.
That’s why CNN’s and MSNBC’s ratings are in the toilet. The people now understand that CNN and MSNBC and similar ilk were behind the hoax for 2+ years.
That’s what is truly pathetic.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 28, 2019 7:31 AM
Comment #444042

It is many people of the USA that think….whoa stop right there D.. You guys don’t think you blindly accept anything Trump tells you. The only 2 year hoax is Trump. How far down the path of completely controlled by Trump before you guys stop and listen to yourselves. The FBI and several intelligence agencies conspired with two cabe news outlets to frame a sitting president. All those in the campaign that went to jail were framed! What a bunch of morons.

Pathetic is actually believing ratings equals fake news you morons. Pathetic is believing CNN and MSNBC “were behind” a hoax! Is it possible to get any dumber than this? So if you believe this utterly stupid theory D. what happens when Rachael’s ratings go up again in May? Does that clear MSNBC from any conspiracy? Does an increase in ratings in May or June exonerate these stations from your ridiculous theories? Un-f**king believable that a grown adult with supposed full mental capabilities can spout this type of crap and have others buy into it as if it were proof of anything but their own stupidity.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 28, 2019 9:57 AM
Comment #444043

More hoax’s for the Trump cult worshipers

Posted by: j2t2 at May 28, 2019 10:17 AM
Comment #444045
j2t2 wrote: Pathetic is actually believing ratings equals fake news you morons.
Oh, like Hillary was supposed to win the 2016 election?
And like the 2+ year hoax?
It must be nice to go through life believing whatever you please, despite reality?
And now you are calling people “morons” too, aside from all of these names that you have also called others here::
    Morons ! , Liars ! , Nazis ! , Racists ! , Fascists ! , Brown Shirts ! , Beastialists ! , White Nationalists ! , Sexists ! , Misogynists ! , Xenophobes ! , Anti-Semites !, Bigots !, Hypocrites!, Repub F**ktards !, F**king Fascists !, as*hats !, ignorant F**ks !
Does making such nasty, racist, hateful comments on a daily or weekly basis, and growing your list of “Words of Wisdom” make you feel better? Or not ?
Again, thanks for being the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: d.a.n at May 28, 2019 10:50 AM
Comment #444046

Google: “cnn msnbc plummeting ratings” “may 2019”

WHHhhaaaaaaaa…!

Posted by: d.a.n at May 28, 2019 10:59 AM
Comment #444053

j2t2, So, I guess you will let us all know what FAKE news we are supposed to believe, and not believe.
After all, your rhetoric is fair and balanced, eh?
Especially like when you claimed that Nancy Pelosi never said “We’re [Congress] is the SUPERIOR branch, quite frankly”.
Yes, all of these things make you the most qualified to judge FAKE news and REAL news, eh?
At any rate, please continue being the gift that keeps on giving!

Posted by: d.a.n at May 28, 2019 11:27 AM
Comment #444059
Google: “cnn msnbc plummeting ratings” “may 2019”

Why D.? This bit of twisted logic doesn’t prove anything but a lot of people interested in the Mueller reports stopped watching after the repost was released. It doesn’t prove anything about “fake News” nor a conspiracy between the FBI, the different Intelligence groups, CNN and MSNBC.

But hey I will Duckduckgo the same thing, perhaps we can have a learning moment. So what I noticed is a bunch of right wing outlets making the same illogical jump to the conclusion that it must be fake news because the ratings dropped. A lot of using one source and broadcasting it through various propaganda channels to fool the largest possible number of people.

If only it was a means to prove that the smaller the audience the more the fake news. But it simply doesn’t D.. See how you have been fooled into thinking it did? Learn from it my friend.


Oh, like Hillary was supposed to win the 2016 election?

Nope nothing like that D.. You mistake polls with TV ratings it seems. But even then you have to imagine some sort of a correlation between the size of the audience equals the amount of fake news. The problem is there isn’t a correlation between the two. In fact Faux Cable News has the reputation for purposely fake news on a regular basis and the audience is larger than the other two outlets.

It must be nice to go through life believing whatever you please, despite reality?

You should know D.. Look at the mans record and then tell me it is everyone who disagrees with him that is the problem. You have earned the term moron with such a foolish display of logic.

So, I guess you will let us all know what FAKE news we are supposed to believe, and not believe.

Perhaps I can be of service D.. Take this bit of advice and you will be smarter almost immediately. Don’t believe any fake news. It is that simple. No need to pick and choose what to believe and what not to believe, if it is fake don’t believe it.

Of course the problem is more complex that that isn’t it. Your sources inundate you with myth, misinformation, half truths and outright lies. On a more subtle level they also disinform and nudge you into thinking of things in a certain way. Take any of the Trump myths. Say the size of the crowd at his inauguration. Check it out, using various sources including eye witness accounts and determine how much Trump exaggerated. Then look at another of his myths and do the same. Soon you may see a pattern. If you make it this far let me know and we can go from there.


After all, your rhetoric is fair and balanced, eh?
Especially like when you claimed that Nancy Pelosi never said “We’re [Congress] is the SUPERIOR branch, quite frankly”.


Such a perfect example of distorting the truth D. Thank you for this. Perfect time for you to practice honing some reasoning skills. Go back to your original post I responded to and look at what was written by you. Notice for starters it was out of context. Go with the link and listen to the discussion at the points I suggested. That may help you to put what she was saying into context. Then notice you tried to influence me with additional verbiage of your own while quoting what she said, which is what I objected to. After that notice the stonewalling and logical fallacies you and others were guilty of when you attempted to defend the disinformation. Notice the illogical arguments you guys used to make it sound as if Pelosi was intended to usurp the Constitution. It was all false and misleading. While you are at it notice the source of your comment and the source of the discussion. PBS did a good job on being factual. Can you say the same?


Yes, all of these things make you the most qualified to judge FAKE news and REAL news, eh?

Perhaps more qualified than you guys. But the most qualified I don’t think so. Breathe deep, release the hatred D.. Ask your conservative friends to do the same, then spend a few minutes without the partisan hatred and forget the propaganda instilled into you the past several years regarding Pelosi. Listen to what is asked and what is said in the interview. With a little practice you can catch up in a short while.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 28, 2019 1:17 PM
Comment #444060
j2t2 wrote: It doesn’t prove anything about “fake News” nor a conspiracy between the FBI, the different Intelligence groups, CNN and MSNBC.
Naaahhhh … none of this proves anything, eh?
Again, many thanks to j2t2 for being the gift that keeps on giving, and perhaps j2t2 will give us some more of his “Words of Wisdom” ?
Posted by: d.a.n at May 28, 2019 2:03 PM
Comment #444061

The US Bureau of Labor Statistics show 12,258,000 manufacturing employees in October 2016.

That number is down 303,000 from the number employed in January 2009 when Obama was sworn in as president.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 28, 2019 3:21 PM
Comment #444062

D., So it seems you have no intent to do anything but continue to spread your myths, misinformation, half truths and outright lies . The bait and switch is especially despicable. I mean really D. from “it’s fake news because the ratings are down” to the unproven tripe in your link! One has to wonder if you are a Russian troll or just a troll. Either way you are part of the problem. Seems to me you would rather keep winning the Goebbels award for spreading lies and propaganda than to actually discuss and debate real issues.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 28, 2019 3:22 PM
Comment #444063

Manufacturing jobs in the United States have now climbed by 322,000 since President Donald Trump took office, according Bureau of Labor employment data for June 2018.

In eight years, going $10 Trillion deeper in debt, President Obama managed to lose 303,000 manufacturing jobs.

In less than two years, President Trump has gained them all back.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 28, 2019 3:30 PM
Comment #444064

January 2019

312,000 Jobs Added In December, Manufacturing Growing 714% Faster Under Trump Than Obama

Under Obama, federal state and local government employment grew 6 times faster than did manufacturing jobs, while under Trump, that ratio has been reversed, with manufacturing jobs growing 5 times faster than government jobs.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/01/04/312000-jobs-added-in-december-manufacturing-growing-714-faster-under-trump-than-obama/#58c4546a5b50

Once again we see proof that government led by Liberal/Progressive/Socialist economic theorist, grow government jobs and diminish private sector jobs.

When everyone has a government job and are riding in the wagon, rather than helping to pull the wagon, our Liberal Pals will be totally happy…and utterly lost.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 28, 2019 3:39 PM
Comment #444065

For the enlightenment and joy of our Liberal Pal j2t2, I provide this quote; also from the “Forbes” link directly above.

“President Obama himself said in June 2016 that manufacturing jobs “are just not going to come back,” and New York Times columnist and economist Paul Krugman claimed on November 25, 2016, “Nothing policy can do will bring back those lost jobs. The service sector is the future of work; but nobody wants to hear it.”

What forlorn and pathetic proclamations by these two sad sacks.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 28, 2019 3:44 PM
Comment #444066

Yeah, we can thank Obama and Hillary for all of this and the weaponizing many federal entities, and the 2+ year collusion/obstruction hoax, and CNN, MSNBC (and similar FAKE NEWS sources) for helping to perpetuate the lies for 2+ years.
It’s obvious that the FAKE NEWS media stations’ ratings are now suffering for all of their FAKE NEWS and lies for the past 2+ years.
Only j2t2, and similar ilk still believe Rachael Madcow’s lies, and want to continue the abuse of the federal systems to search for a crime, so that they can get their impeachment.
But, that’s ALL a good thing!
Many thanks again to j2t2 and similar ilk for being the gift that keeps on giving!
Democrats, their brainwashed followers, and the left hand of the Democrat party (i.e. the FAKE NEWS MEDIA) have a lot of egg on their face (to say the least).
Apparently, there’s no low they won’t stoop to in order to get their impeachment (i.e. as soon as they can find a crime, eh? : ) ).
Have you ever seen such a bunch of cry baby grave diggin’ Democrats , who continue to beat that dead horse in that hole they’re standing in?
And how about all of those predictions by phx8 about imminent impeachment, etc., etc., etc.? LOL !

Posted by: d.a.n at May 28, 2019 4:11 PM
Comment #444067

Once again d.a.n. nails it regarding our Liberal/Progressive/Socialist Pals digging their political grave ever deeper. Women, black, and Hispanic voters are deserting the Democrat ship. They are tired of promises to improve the lives of the middle class with no action.

The drum beat to impeach the president has little appeal to the middle class voter.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 28, 2019 4:19 PM
Comment #444068
Royal Flush wrote: The drum beat to impeach the president has little appeal to the middle class voter.
Right, and many of them are not happy about being lied to by the FAKE NEWS MEDIA for 2+ years.

But j2t2 does not appreciate anyone trying to confuse him with the facts, such as lower unemployment, higher GDP, fewer people on welfare, lower taxes, but increased federal tax revenues, etc., etc., etc., and many other accomplishments.

Some of us can’t help but wonder what kind of person wants bad things for their country?
What kind of person tries to ignore the good things, and not only focuses on the bad things, but makes up bad things (i.e. a 2+ year hoax).
It’s hard to get more unAmerican than that.

For instance, consider the lowering of the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%, which was common-sense, because the global average is about 21%, and anything higher simply motivates companies to leave the U.S. The corporate tax cut has already helped many companies, and has brought back many companies and money to the U.S.
Many corporations, money, and jobs ARE returning to the U.S. due to the reduction of the corporate tax from 35% to 21% (closer to the global average of 20%):

  • Apple is bringing back $38 Billion back to the U.S. after the tax overhaul.
    - Source: www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2018/01/17/apple-says-it-will-bring-cash-back-to-us-pay-38-billion-in-repatriation-tax/#62baf5592222
  • Insulet Corp.; Total jobs reshored: 1,500 jobs; States benefiting: Massachusetts; Industry: Biotechnology; Headquarters: Billerica, Massachusetts; Insulet Corporation manufactures insulin delivery systems. In 2017 the company announced it would be moving the production of its flagship product — the Omnipod, a tubeless, waterproof insulin pump — from China to a new facility in Acton, Massachusetts. Insulet cited the area’s skilled workforce and rising labor costs in China as reasons for the move. If Insulet meets earnings expectations for the next several years, the new facility could employ as many as 1,500 workers by 2021.
  • Element Electronics; Total jobs reshored: 1,500; States benefiting: Michigan, South Carolina; Industry: Consumer electronics; Headquarters: Winnsboro, South Carolina; In 2012, South Carolina-based consumer electronics manufacturer Element Electronics opened a new flat screen television factory in Detroit. The decision was based on a need to consolidate the company’s supply chain, and made Element one of the only companies to manufacture televisions in the U.S. Element also reshored production from China to Winnsboro, South Carolina with an initial $7.5 million investment in a new plant that is projected to lead to the creation of 500 jobs. The TV manufacturer cited Walmart’s pledge to buy $250 billion of U.S.-made products from 2013 to 2023 as a primary reason to relocate operations to the United States.
  • Gentex; Total jobs reshored: 1,600 jobs; States benefiting: Michigan; Industry: Motor vehicle parts; Headquarters: Zeeland, Michigan; Over the last several years, mirror manufacturer Gentex closed its two plants in China and Mexico in an effort to centralize production in Zeeland, Michigan. While labor was less expensive overseas, the move to consolidate all stages of production in one location is likely to reduce transportation costs and the risk of manufacturing error. According to the Reshoring Initiative, the company’s reshoring efforts since 2010 amount to a total of 1,600 jobs for U.S. workers.
  • Amgen; Total jobs reshored: 1,600; States benefiting: Rhode Island, TBD; Industry: Pharmaceuticals; Headquarters: Thousand Oaks, California; In a January 2018 meeting with President Donald Trump, Amgen CEO Robert Bradway announced that the firm was planning to add 1,600 manufacturing jobs in the U.S. The announcement came several years after the biopharma company cut approximately 15% of its workforce and closed two U.S. manufacturing facilities in 2014 as part of major cost-saving efforts. Most recently, Amgen announced in February 2018 that it would invest $300 million in a new U.S. biologics plant that would employ approximately 300 workers upon completion. An April 2018 recent press release from the company named West Greenwich, Rhode Island, as the site of the new facility.
  • Merck & Co.; Total jobs reshored: 1,633 jobs; States benefiting: New Jersey, TBD; Industry: Pharmaceuticals; Headquarters: Kenilworth, New Jersey; In July 2017, the White House announced that Merck, along with pharmaceutical manufacturers Pfizer and Corning, have committed to making a joint investment of at least $4 billion in pharmaceutical glass manufacturing in the U.S. The partnership will focus on the manufacturing of advanced pharmaceutical glass packing, a technology used in the storage of injectable drugs, as well as vials and cartridges, and is projected to lead to the direct hiring of 4,000 U.S. employees across the three companies. Merck also recently reshored approximately 300 jobs as part of its efforts to consolidate its overseas operations in the U.S. The company relocated the headquarters of its animal health division from Boxmeer, the Netherlands to its campus in Summit, New Jersey in 2013 as part of a larger restructuring effort.
  • SolarCity; Total jobs reshored: 1,900; States benefiting: New York; Industry: Energy production & storage; Headquarters: San Mateo, California; In 2014, SolarCity announced a deal with the State of New York that commits the company to invest approximately $5 billion over the next 10 years in return for a $750 million construction subsidy that is projected to create at least 1,900 jobs. The investment is focused around the construction of a new facility in South Buffalo. Without major government subsidies, domestic manufacturing of solar panels has largely been prohibitively expensive, as U.S. labor costs were too high compared to other countries. While the project stalled for several years as SolarCity reevaluated its timeframe and was taken over by Tesla, solar roof tile production began at the new factory in December 2017.
  • Polaris Industries; Total jobs reshored: 2,000; States benefiting: Alabama; Industry: Transportation equipment; Headquarters: Deerfield, Illinois; In January 2015, automotive manufacturer Polaris Industries announced plans to build a $142 million off-road vehicle plant in Huntsville, Alabama that will create an estimated 2,000 manufacturing jobs in the area. The move was likely prompted by the generous tax breaks offered by state and local governments. Polaris is projected to receive approximately $80 million in tax breaks from the city of Huntsville and state of Alabama upon completion and staffing of the facility. The announcement comes several years after the company was criticized for downsizing its plant in Osceola, Wisconsin and building a new facility in Monterrey, Mexico for approximately $150 million.
  • Caterpillar; Total jobs reshored: 2,100; States benefiting: Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Texas; Industry: Construction & farm machinery; Headquarters: Peoria, Illinois; According to the Reshoring Initiative, over the last several years construction equipment manufacturer Caterpillar has announced reshoring projects that will target facilities in Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, and Texas, and will add or retain an estimated 2,100 U.S. manufacturing jobs. In 2012, Caterpillar opened a new facility in Victoria, Texas with an initial investment of $200 million in an effort to shift production of its hydraulic excavators from Akashi, Japan to the U.S. In August 2015, Caterpillar announced plans to expand employment at its Victoria facility, moving its vocational truck manufacturing operations from Mexico to the Texas location.
  • Whirlpool; Total jobs reshored: 2,165; States benefiting: Ohio; Industry: Electronics, electrical equipment; Headquarters: Benton Harbor, Michigan; Since 2010, Whirlpool has announced several efforts to consolidate its overseas operations within the U.S. that will add up to an estimated 2,165 reshored jobs for domestic manufacturing workers. Most recently, in January 2018 Whirlpool announced it would be adding 200 full-time employees to its facility in Clyde, Ohio. The news came shortly after the Trump Administration announced safeguard tariffs on large imported residential washing machines, a move projected to reduce import competition from Whirlpool rivals Samsung Electronics and LG Electronics.
  • General Electric; Total jobs reshored: 2,656; States benefiting: Alabama, Arkansas, Illinois, Kentucky, North Carolina, New York, Ohio
    Industry: Industrial machinery; Headquarters: Boston, Massachusetts; Since 2010, General Electric has announced domestic capital investments that are projected to add approximately 2,700 jobs to the U.S. manufacturing workforce. Much of the reshoring efforts are based around Appliance Park, a newly renovated production facility in Louisville, Kentucky, and shifting the production of bottom-mounted refrigerators and front-load washing machines from China and Mexico to the U.S. According to GE, reasons for the move include lower transportation costs, a more qualified workforce, and significant tax incentives by state and local governments.
  • Dow Chemical; Total jobs reshored: 2,900; States benefiting: Louisiana, Michigan, Texas; Industry: Chemicals; Headquarters: Midland, Michigan; In March 2015, Dow Chemical announced plans to invest $6 billion in its manufacturing plants in Texas and Louisiana in an effort to capitalize on lower domestic natural gas prices. According to a Dow executive, the increase in U.S. fracking activity has created significant investment prospects for chemical producers in the United States that will pay off in the next several years. The Gulf Coast reshoring effort is largely focused on the production of ethylene, propylene, and chemical derivatives used in packaging. The company’s reshoring efforts announced over the past several years are projected to retain or add approximately 2,900 manufacturing jobs to the U.S.
  • Intel; Total jobs reshored: 4,000; States benefiting: Arizona, California, Oregon; Industry: Semiconductors & other electronic components; Headquarters: Santa Clara, California; In 2011, Intel announced plans to hire 4,000 U.S. workers and build a $5 billion microprocessor plant in Chandler, Arizona. Known as Fab 42, the plant will use the 7-nanometer production process and is projected to be the most advanced, high-volume microprocessor plant in the world. While the facility was completed in 2013, its opening was stalled for several years. In February 2017, however, Intel announced plans to open the facility with a total investment of $7 billion and the direct hiring of 3,000 high-tech, high-wage workers. The tech giant projects the plant will be completed in the next two to three years, and will indirectly lead to the creation of roughly 10,000 jobs throughout Arizona.
  • Ford; Total jobs reshored: 4,200; States benefiting: Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, New York; Industry: Motor vehicles & parts; Headquarters: Dearborn, Michigan; In January 2017, Ford announced plans to cancel the $1.6 billion expansion of its Mexico production facility, instead opting to expand operations at its Flat Rock, Michigan facility with a $700 million investment projected to create 700 jobs. Similar reshoring efforts by the U.S. auto giant have been announced over the past eight years, targeting facilities in Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, New York, and other parts of Michigan and totaling an estimated 4,200 new jobs for the domestic workforce. Like General Motors and Fiat Chrysler, Ford’s announcements were made amid pressure from the current administration to reduce investment overseas and increase capital investments in the U.S. manufacturing sector. While some analysts speculate the reshoring efforts are a response to the Trump administration’s push for domestic job creation, Ford representatives have noted that they were based on an initiative to expand its truck and S.U.V. model offerings for U.S. consumers, which was previously agreed to in a labor contract with the United Automobile Workers union.
  • Boeing; Total jobs reshored: 7,725; States benefiting: Missouri, Montana, South Carolina; Industry: Aerospace & defense; Headquarters: Chicago, Illinois;
    Over the past several years, Boeing has rapidly expanded its U.S. workforce at various manufacturing plants throughout the East Coast. Boeing began operations at a new plant in Charleston, South Carolina in 2011 that manufactures 787 Dreamliner planes. Boeing also recently moved parts of its production of the new 777X plane from overseas to its St. Louis facility. The first 777X is projected to be completed by December 2019. According to the Reshoring Initiative, since 2010 Boeing has announced plans to reshore approximately 8,000 jobs, the most of any U.S. company other than General Motors and Apple.
  • General Motors; Total jobs reshored: 12,988; States benefiting: Michigan, New York, Tennessee, Texas; Industry: Motor vehicles & parts; Headquarters: Detroit, Michigan; Over the past several years, General Motors has made several announcements regarding various reshoring efforts that will boost employment at its plants in Michigan, New York, Tennessee, and Texas. The largest announcement came January 2017, when GM made public its plans to add or retain 7,000 jobs in the U.S. over the next few years. One of the major reshoring projects will be the shifting of approximately 600 jobs from an axle production plant in Mexico to a new facility in Arlington, Texas. GM’s reshoring efforts announced since 2010 amount to roughly 13,000 jobs, the most of any U.S. company other than Apple.
  • Apple; Total jobs reshored: 22,200 jobs; States benefiting: Texas, TBD; Industry: Computers, office equipment; Headquarters: Cupertino, California; In January 2018, Apple announced plans to invest over $30 billion in capital expenditures in the U.S. over the next five years. As part of the investment, Apple is increasing its commitment to its Advanced Manufacturing Fund — used to invest in U.S. manufacturing companies and boost the domestic manufacturing sector — from $1 billion to $5 billion. The move is projected to create over 20,000 new jobs at Apple’s existing campuses and at a new office location which has yet to be announced. Apple’s job creation announcement comes amid criticism aimed at the company for its outsourcing of manufacturing jobs to China, and accusations that it has dodged U.S. taxes by keeping some $250 billion overseas. A March 2017 press release from Apple claims the company supports some 4.8 million jobs in China, compared to 2.0 million in the U.S.
  • SoftBank $50 Billion
  • Exxon $20 Billion
  • Hyundai $3.1 Billion
  • Bayer AG $8 Billion
  • Toyota $600 Million
  • LG $250 Million
  • Also, certain industries are integral to the security of the U.S.A (i.e. steel, aluminum, minerals, energy, food, technology, etc.). Several companies are bringing business and money back to the U.S.A.
  • Many companies have also cited Walmart’s pledge to buy $250 billion of American-made products between 2013 and 2023 as a primary reason for shifting operations to the United States. The pledge has reduced some of the risk of relocating production to the United States and has helped companies such as Element Electronics, which won a contract with Walmart shortly after opening a small flat-screen television plant in Michigan, make the decision to reshore.
  • Source: www.tcpalm.com/story/money/business/2018/06/28/manufacturers-bringing-most-jobs-back-to-america/36438051/
There are good reasons to return to the U.S.A., now that the corporate tax was lowered from 35% to 21% (nearer to the global average of about 20% for corporate taxes). A corporate tax rate of 35% was one of the highest corporate taxes in the world, and it was driving corporations and jobs out of the U.S. for decades.
Despite all of that, j2t2 and similar ilk will say “it only helps the rich”.
The facts, the truth, and simple logic simply do not work with some people, and those people are a hopeless waste of time.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 28, 2019 4:35 PM
Comment #444070

Also, corporate taxes are a hidden tax on consumers.
A Corporation is not a person.
Excessive tax rates (especially higher than most other nations, which is what it was when it was 35%) on corporations simply incentivizes corporations to leave the U.S.A., and who can blame them.
And when corporations leave, so do jobs and money.
Yet, many Democrats (many running for President) are talking about 70% income tax rates!?!
Only a master-parasite would make such promises (to buy votes).
And only a cheater/parasite, who thinks they’re going to get free stuff, would vote for that.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 28, 2019 4:54 PM
Comment #444071

j2 is living proof common sense DOSEN”T reign supreme among liberal progressives. They would rather believe fiction instead of FACT!

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 28, 2019 5:07 PM
Comment #444072

Never in my long life have I seen Democrats in such denial. They either deny…or lie.

I hear Democrats tell us that government is the engine of innovation, growth, and economic success. Obama even had the “garters” to tell successful business people that “you didn’t build that.”

We all know that government is convenient to do the things we choose to do collectively; such as building public roads, maintaining police and fire protection. We choose to do it this way, it is not by government edict. It is much the same as co-op’s operate. We collectively choose to designate someone to use our buying power to obtain the goods and services we desire to our advantage.

Just read the “deny or lie” statements by our Liberal Pal j2t2 regarding manufacturing jobs. Simply because he can find some article written by some unknown person who touts his (j2t2) desired perspective, it becomes a fact that he believes. And, no amount of actual facts, provided by those government officials charged with providing such facts, will persuade him or change his thinking.

Liberals today have a propensity towards “stinking thinking”. This is not to be confused with real “thinking”, it resembles more closely; conjuring. For example, a Liberal/Progressive/Socialist decides that the wrong people have the most money. They convince themselves that they deserve some or all of that money simply because they think so, and others like them, think so too. These “stinker thinkers” band together and persuade some politician to promote their cause in exchange for their vote.

Finally, the “stinkers” have some political clout and the fake media helps to make the idea popular with more lies and stinking thinking. Now, the “stinkers” are convinced their original conjure must be correct as it is being heralded by politicians and news media.

This is sheer madness.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 28, 2019 5:45 PM
Comment #444073
Royal Flush wrote: Never in my long life have I seen Democrats in such denial. They either deny…or lie.
I agree.
Same here.
I have never seen the Democrat party reach such a depth of depravity as I have seen in the last 10 years.
However, it has happened before, as you can see HERE.
And it is now happening again.
Posted by: d.a.n at May 28, 2019 6:17 PM
Comment #444106

HUFFPOST ? Seriously?

Posted by: d.a.n at May 29, 2019 9:09 AM
Comment #444107

See above.
Source: www.tcpalm.com/story/money/business/2018/06/28/manufacturers-bringing-most-jobs-back-to-america/36438051/

Posted by: d.a.n at May 29, 2019 9:20 AM
Comment #444111

The haters and grave-diggers so conveniently ignore or trivialize all of the following (the first 20 months):

    ======Economic Growth:
  • 4.2 percent growth in the second quarter of 2018.
  • For the first time in more than a decade, growth is projected to exceed 3 percent over the calendar year.
    ======Jobs:
  • 4 million new jobs have been created since the election, and more than 3.5 million since Trump took office.
  • More Americans are employed now than ever before in our history.
  • Jobless claims at lowest level in nearly five decades.
  • The economy has achieved the longest positive job-growth streak on record.
  • Job openings are at an all-time high and outnumber job seekers for the first time on record.
  • Unemployment claims at 50 year low
  • African-American, Hispanic, and Asian-American unemployment rates have all recently reached record lows.
    • African-American unemployment hit a record low of 5.9 percent in May 2018.
    • Hispanic unemployment at 4.5 percent.
    • Asian-American unemployment at record low of 2 percent.
  • Women’s unemployment recently at lowest rate in nearly 65 years.
    • Female unemployment dropped to 3.6 percent in May 2018, the lowest since October 1953.
  • Youth unemployment recently reached its lowest level in more than 50 years.
    • July 2018’s youth unemployment rate of 9.2 percent was the lowest since July 1966.
  • Veterans’ unemployment recently hit its lowest level in nearly two decades.
    • July 2018’s veterans’ unemployment rate of 3.0 percent matched the lowest rate since May 2001.
  • Unemployment rate for Americans without a high school diploma recently reached a record low.
  • Rate for disabled Americans recently hit a record low.
  • Blue-collar jobs recently grew at the fastest rate in more than three decades.
  • Poll found that 85 percent of blue-collar workers believe their lives are headed “in the right direction.”
    • 68 percent reported receiving a pay increase in the past year.
  • Last year, job satisfaction among American workers hit its highest level since 2005.
  • Nearly two-thirds of Americans rate now as a good time to find a quality job.
    • Optimism about the availability of good jobs has grown by 25 percent.
  • Added more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since the election.
    • Manufacturing employment is growing at its fastest pace in more than two decades.
  • 100,000 new jobs supporting the production & transport of oil & natural gas.
    ======American Income:
  • Median household income rose to $61,372 in 2017, a post-recession high.
  • Wages up in August by their fastest rate since June 2009.
  • Paychecks rose by 3.3 percent between 2016 and 2017, the most in a decade.
  • Council of Economic Advisers found that real wage compensation has grown by 1.4 percent over the past year.
  • Some 3.9 million Americans off food stamps since the election.
  • Median income for Hispanic-Americans rose by 3.7 percent and surpassed $50,000 for the first time ever in history.
    • Home-ownership among Hispanics is at the highest rate in nearly a decade.
  • Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels ever recorded.
    ======American Optimism:
  • Small business optimism has hit historic highs.
    • NFIB’s small business optimism index broke a 35 year-old record in August.
    • SurveyMonkey/CNBC’s small business confidence survey for Q3 of 2018 matched its all-time high.
  • Manufacturers are more confident than ever.
    • 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future, the highest ever.
  • Consumer confidence is at an 18-year high.
  • 12 percent of Americans rate the economy as the most significant problem facing our country, the lowest level on record.
  • Confidence in the economy is near a two-decade high, with 51 percent rating the economy as good or excellent.
    ======American Business:
  • Investment is flooding back into the United States due to the tax cuts.
    • Over $450 billion dollars has already poured back into the U.S., including more than $300 billion in the first quarter of 2018.
  • Retail sales have surged. Commerce Department figures from August show that retail sales increased 0.5 percent in July 2018, an increase of
  • 6.4 percent from July 2017.
  • ISM’s index of manufacturing scored its highest reading in 14 years.
  • Worker productivity is the highest it has been in more than three years.
  • Steel and aluminum producers are re-opening.
  • Dow Jones Industrial Average, S&P 500, and NASDAQ have all notched record highs.
    • Dow hit record highs 70 times in 2017 alone, the most ever recorded in one year.
    ======Deregulation:
  • Achieved massive deregulation at a rapid pace, completing 22 deregulatory actions to every one regulatory action during his first year in office.
  • Signed legislation to roll back costly and harmful provisions of Dodd-Frank, providing relief to credit unions, and community and regional banks.
  • Federal agencies achieved more than $8 billion in lifetime net regulatory cost savings.
  • Rolled back Obama’s burdensome Waters of the U.S. rule.
  • Used the Congressional Review Act to repeal regulations more times than in history.
    ======Tax Cuts:
  • Biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history by signing the Tax Cuts and Jobs act into law.
    • Provided more than $5.5 trillion in gross tax cuts, nearly 60 percent of which will go to families.
    • Increased the exemption for the death tax to help save Family Farms & Small Business.
    • Nearly doubled the standard deduction for individuals and families.
    • Enabled vast majority of American families will be able to file their taxes on a single page by claiming the standard deduction.
    • Doubled the child tax credit to help lessen the financial burden of raising a family.
    • Lowered America’s corporate tax rate from the highest in the developed world to allow American businesses to compete and win.
    • Small businesses can now deduct 20 percent of their business income.
    • Cut dozens of special interest tax breaks and closed loopholes for the wealthy.
  • 9 in 10 American workers are expected see an increase in their paychecks thanks to the tax cuts, according to the Treasury Department.
  • More than 6 million of American workers have received wage increases, bonuses, and increased benefits thanks to tax cuts.
  • Over 100 utility companies have lowered electric, gas, or water rates thanks to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
  • Ernst & Young found 89 percent of companies planned to increase worker compensation thanks to the Trump tax cuts.
  • Established opportunity zones to spur investment in left behind communities.
    ======Worker Development:
  • Established a National Council for the American Worker to develop a national strategy for training and retraining America’s workers for high-demand industries.
  • Employers have signed Trump’s “Pledge to America’s Workers,” committing to train or retrain more than 4.2 million workers and students.
  • Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.
  • Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.
    ======Domestic Infrastructure:
  • Proposed infrastructure plan would utilize $200 billion in Federal funds to spur at least $1.5 trillion in infrastructure investment across the country.
  • Executive order expediting environmental reviews and approvals for high priority infrastructure projects.
    Federal agencies have signed the One Federal Decision Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) streamlining the federal permitting process for
  • infrastructure projects.
  • Rural prosperity task force and signed an executive order to help expand broadband access in rural areas.
    ======Health Care:
  • Signed an executive order to help minimize the financial burden felt by American households Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline.
  • Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments.
  • Signed Right-to-Try legislation, expanding health care options for terminally ill patients.
  • Enacted changes to the Medicare 340B program, saving seniors an estimated $320 million on drugs in 2018 alone.
  • FDA set a new record for generic drug approvals in 2017, saving consumers nearly $9 billion.
  • Released a blueprint to drive down drug prices for American patients, leading multiple major drug companies to announce they will freeze or reverse price increases.
  • Expanded short-term, limited-duration health plans.
  • Let more employers to form Association Health Plans, enabling more small businesses to join together and affordably provide health insurance to their employees.
  • Cut Obamacare’s burdensome individual mandate penalty.
  • Signed legislation repealing Obamacare’s Independent Payment Advisory Board, also known as the “death panels.”
  • USDA invested more than $1 billion in rural health care in 2017, improving access to health care for 2.5 million people in rural communities across 41 states
  • Proposed Title X rule to help ensure taxpayers do not fund the abortion industry in violation of the law.
  • Reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy to keep foreign aid from supporting the global abortion industry.
  • HHS formed a new division over protecting the rights of conscience and religious freedom.
  • Overturned Obama administration’s midnight regulation prohibiting states from defunding certain abortion facilities.
  • Signed executive order to help ensure that religious organizations are not forced to choose between violating their religious beliefs by complying with Obamacare’s contraceptive mandate or shutting their doors.
    ======Combating Opioids:
  • Chaired meeting the 73rd General Session of the United Nations discussing the worldwide drug problem with international leaders.
  • Initiative to Stop Opioid Abuse and Reduce Drug Supply and Demand, introducing new measures to keep dangerous drugs out of our communities.
  • $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
  • DEA conducted a surge in April 2018 that arrested 28 medical professions and revoked 147 registrations for prescribing too many opioids.
  • Brought the “Prescribed to Death” memorial to President’s Park near the White House, helping raise awareness about the human toll of the opioid crisis.
  • Helped reduce high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent in 2017.
  • Opioid Summit on the administration-wide efforts to combat the opioid crisis.
  • Launched a national public awareness campaign about the dangers of opioid addiction.
  • Created a Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis which recommended a number of pathways to tackle the opioid crisis.
  • Led two National Prescription Drug Take Back Days in 2017 and 2018, collecting a record number of expired and unneeded prescription drugs each time.
  • $485 million targeted grants in FY 2017 to help areas hit hardest by the opioid crisis.
  • Signed INTERDICT Act, strengthening efforts to detect and intercept synthetic opioids before they reach our communities.
  • DOJ secured its first-ever indictments against Chinese fentanyl manufacturers.
  • Joint Criminal Opioid Darknet Enforcement (J-CODE) team, aimed at disrupting online illicit opioid sales.
  • Declared the opioid crisis a Nationwide Public Health Emergency in October 2017.
    ======Law and Order:
  • More U.S. Circuit Court judges confirmed in the first year in office than ever.
  • Confirmed more than two dozen U. S. Circuit Court judges.
  • Followed through on the promise to nominate judges to the Supreme Court who will adhere to the Constitution.
    • Nominated and confirmed Justice Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.
  • Signed an executive order directing the Attorney General to develop a strategy to more effectively prosecute people who commit crimes against law enforcement officers.
  • Launched an evaluation of grant programs to make sure they prioritize the protection and safety of law enforcement officers.
  • Established a task force to reduce crime and restore public safety in communities across Signed an executive order to focus more federal resources on dismantling transnational criminal organizations such as drug cartels.
  • Signed an executive order to focus more federal resources on dismantling transnational criminal organizations such as drug cartels.
  • Violent crime decreased in 2017 according to FBI statistics.
  • $137 million in grants through the COPS Hiring Program to preserve jobs, increase community policing capacities, and support crime prevention efforts.
  • Enhanced and updated the Project Safe Neighborhoods to help reduce violent crime.
  • Signed legislation making it easier to target websites that enable se*x trafficking and strengthened penalties for people who promote or facilitate prostitution.
  • Created an interagency task force working around the clock to prosecute traffickers, protect victims, and prevent human trafficking.
  • Conducted Operation Cross Country XI to combat human trafficking, rescuing 84 children and arresting 120 human traffickers.
  • Encouraged federal prosecutors to use the death penalty when possible in the fight against the trafficking of deadly drugs.
  • New rule effectively banning bump stock sales in the United States.
    ======Border Security and Immigration:
  • Secured $1.6 billion for border wall construction in the March 2018 omnibus bill.
  • Construction of a 14-mile section of border wall began near San Diego.
  • Worked to protect American communities from the threat posed by the vile MS-13 gang.
    • ICE’s Homeland Security Investigations division arrested 796 MS-13 members and associates in FY 2017, an 83 percent increase from the prior year.
    • Justice worked with partners in Central America to secure criminal charges against more than 4,000 MS-13 members.
    • Border Patrol agents arrested 228 illegal aliens affiliated with MS-13 in FY 2017.
  • Fighting to stop the scourge of illegal drugs at our border.
    • ICE HSI seized more than 980,000 pounds of narcotics in FY 2017, including 2,370 pounds of fentanyl and 6,967 pounds of heroin.
    • ICE HSI dedicated nearly 630,000 investigative hours towards halting the illegal import of fentanyl.
    • ICE HSI made 11,691 narcotics-related arrests in FY 2017.
    • Stop Opioid Abuse and Reduce Drug Supply and Demand introduced new measures to keep dangerous drugs out the United States.
    • Signed the INTERDICT Act into law, enhancing efforts to detect and intercept synthetic opioids.
    • DOJ secured its first-ever indictments against Chinese fentanyl manufacturers.
    • DOJ launched their Joint Criminal Opioid Darknet Enforcement (J-CODE) team, aimed at disrupting online illicit opioid sales.
  • Released an immigration framework that includes the resources required to secure our borders and close legal loopholes, and repeatedly called on Congress to fix our broken immigration laws.
  • Authorized the deployment of the National Guard to help secure the border.
  • Enhanced vetting of individuals entering the U.S. from countries that don’t meet security standards, helping to ensure individuals who pose a threat to our country are identified before they enter.
    • These procedures were upheld in a June 2018 Supreme Court hearing.
  • ICE removed over 226,000 illegal aliens from the United States in 2017.
    • ICE rescued or identified over 500 human trafficking victims and over 900 child exploitation victims in 2017 alone.
  • In 2017, ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) arrested more than 127,000 aliens with criminal convictions or charges, responsible for:
      Over 76,000 with dangerous drug offenses.
    • More than 48,000 with assault offenses.
    • More than 11,000 with weapons offenses.
    • More than 5,000 with se*xual assault offenses.
    • More than 2,000 with kidnapping offenses.
    • Over 1,800 with homicide offenses.
  • Created the Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement (VOICE) Office in order to support the victims and families affected by illegal alien crime.
  • More than doubled the number of counties participating in the 287(g) program, which allows jails to detain criminal aliens until they are transferred to ICE custody.
    ======Trade:
  • Negotiating and renegotiating better trade deals, achieving free, fair, and reciprocal trade for the United States.
    • Agreed to work with the European Union towards zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers, and zero subsides.
    • Deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.
    • Litigated multiple WTO disputes targeting unfair trade practices and upholding our right to enact fair trade laws.
    • Finalized a revised trade agreement with South Korea, which includes provisions to increase American automobile exports.
    • Negotiated an historic U.S.-Mexico-Canada Trade Agreement to replace NAFTA.
    • Agreement to begin trade negotiations for a U.S.-Japan trade agreement.
    • Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.
    • Established a Trade and Investment Working Group with the United Kingdom, laying the groundwork for post-Brexit trade.
  • Enacted steel and aluminum tariffs to protect our vital steel and aluminum producers and strengthen our national security.
  • Conducted 82 anti-dumping and countervailing duty investigations in 2017 alone.
  • Confronting China’s unfair trade practices after years of Washington looking the other way:
    • 25 percent tariff on $50 billion of goods imported from China and later imposed an additional 10% tariff on $200 billion of Chinese goods.
    • Conducted an investigation into Chinese forced technology transfers, unfair licensing practices, and intellectual property theft.
    • Imposed safeguard tariffs to protect domestic washing machines and solar products manufacturers hurt by China’s trade policies.
  • Withdrew from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).
  • Secured access to new markets for America’s farmers:
    • Recent deal with Mexico included new improvements enabling food and agriculture to trade more fairly.
    • Recent agreement with the E.U. will reduce barriers and increase trade of American soybeans to Europe.
    • Won a WTO dispute regarding Indonesia’s unfair restriction of U.S. agricultural exports.
    • Defended American Tuna fisherman and packagers before the WTO
    • Opened up Argentina to American pork experts for the first time in a quarter-century
    • American beef exports have returned to China for the first time in more than a decade
  • OK’d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.
    ======Energy:
  • Presidential Memorandum to clear roadblocks to construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline.
  • Presidential Memorandum declaring that the Dakota Access Pipeline serves the national interest and initiating the process to complete construction.
  • Opened up the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge to energy exploration.
  • Coal exports up over 60 percent in 2017.
  • Rolled back the “stream protection rule” to prevent it from harming America’s coal industry.
  • Cancelled Obama’s anti-coal Clean Power Plan and proposed the Affordable Clean Energy Rule as a replacement.
  • Withdrew from the job-killing Paris climate agreement, which would have cost the U.S. nearly $3 trillion and led to 6.5 million fewer industrial sector jobs by 2040.
  • U.S. oil production has achieved its highest level in American history
  • United States is now the largest crude oil producer in the world.
  • U.S. has become a net natural gas exporter for the first time in six decades.
  • Action to expedite the identification and extraction of critical minerals that are vital to the nation’s security and economic prosperity.
  • Took action to reform National Ambient Air Quality Standards, benefitting American manufacturers.
  • Rescinded Obama’s hydraulic fracturing rule, which was expected to cost the industry $32 million per year.
  • Proposed an expansion of offshore drilling as part of an all-of-the above energy strategy.
    • Held a lease sale for offshore oil and gas leases in the Gulf of Mexico in August 2018.
  • Got EU to increase its imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) from the United States.
  • Issued permits for the New Burgos Pipeline that will cross the U.S.-Mexico border.
    ======Foreign Policy:
  • Moved the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.
  • Withdrew from Iran deal and immediately began the process of re-imposing sanctions that had been lifted or waived.
    • Treasury has issued sanctions targeting Iranian activities and entities, including the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force
    • Since enacting sanctions, Iran’s crude exports have fallen off, the value of Iran’s currency has plummeted, and international companies have pulled out of the country.
    • All nuclear-related sanctions will be back in full force by early November 2018.
  • Historic summit with North Korean President Kim Jong-Un, bringing beginnings of peace and denuclearization to the Korean Peninsula.
    • The two leaders have exchanged letters and high-level officials from both sides have met resulting in tremendous progress.
    • North Korea has halted nuclear and missile tests.
    • Negotiated the return of the remains of missing-in-action soldiers from the Korean War.
  • Imposed strong sanctions on Venezuelan dictator Nicholas Maduro and his inner circle.
  • Executive order preventing those in the U.S. from carrying out certain transactions with the Venezuelan regime, including prohibiting the purchase of the regime’s debt.
  • Responded to the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian regime.
    • Rolled out sanctions targeting individuals and entities tied to Syria’s chemical weapons program.
    • Directed strikes in April 2017 against a Syrian airfield used in a chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians.
    • Joined allies in launching airstrikes in April 2018 against targets associated with Syria’s chemical weapons use.
  • New Cuba policy that enhanced compliance with U.S. law and held the Cuban regime accountable for political oppression and human rights abuses.
    • Treasury and State are working to channel economic activity away from the Cuban regime, particularly the military.
  • Changed the rules of engagement, empowering commanders to take the fight to ISIS.
    • ISIS has lost virtually all of its territory, more than half of which has been lost under Trump.
    • ISIS’ self-proclaimed capital city, Raqqah, was liberated in October 2017.
    • All Iraqi territory had been liberated from ISIS.
  • More than a dozen American hostages have been freed from captivity all of the world.
  • Action to combat Russia’s malign activities, including their efforts to undermine the sanctity of United States elections.
    • Expelled dozens of Russian intelligence officers from the United States and ordered the closure of the Russian consulate in Seattle, WA.
    • Banned the use of Kaspersky Labs software on government computers, due to the company’s ties to Russian intelligence.
    • Imposed sanctions against five Russian entities and three individuals for enabling Russia’s military and intelligence units to increase Russia’s offensive cyber capabilities.
    • Sanctions against seven Russian oligarchs, and 12 companies they own or control, who profit from Russia’s destabilizing activities.
    • Sanctioned 100 targets in response to Russia’s occupation of Crimea and aggression in Eastern Ukraine.
    • Enhanced support for Ukraine’s Armed Forces to help Ukraine better defend itself.
  • Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
  • Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.
    ======Defense:
  • Executive order keeping the detention facilities at U.S. Naval Station Guantanamo Bay open.
  • $700 billion in military funding for FY 2018 and $716 billion for FY 2019.
  • Largest military pay raise in nearly a decade.
  • Ordered a Nuclear Posture Review to ensure America’s nuclear forces are up to date and serve as a credible deterrent.
  • Released America’s first fully articulated cyber strategy in 15 years.
  • New strategy on national biodefense, which better prepares the nation to defend against biological threats.
  • Administration has announced that it will use whatever means necessary to protect American citizens and servicemen from unjust prosecution by the International Criminal Court.
  • Released an America first National Security Strategy.
  • Put in motion the launch of a Space Force as a new branch of the military and relaunched the National Space Council.
  • Encouraged North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) allies to increase defense spending to their agree-upon levels.
    • In 2017 alone, there was an increase of more than 4.8 percent in defense spending amongst NATO allies.
    • Every member state has increased defense spending.
    • Eight NATO allies will reach the 2 percent benchmark by the end of 2018 and 15 allies are on trade to do so by 2024.
    • NATO allies spent over $42 billion dollars more on defense since 2016.
  • Executive order to help military spouses find employment as their families deploy domestically and abroad.
    ======Veterans Affairs:
  • Signed the VA Accountability Act and expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.
  • Delivered more appeals decisions – 81,000 – to veterans in a single year than ever before.
  • Strengthened protections for individuals who come forward and identify programs occurring within the VA.
  • Signed legislation that provided $86.5 billion in funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), the largest dollar amount in history for the VA.
  • VA MISSION Act, enacting sweeping reform to the VA system that:
    • Consolidated and strengthened VA community care programs.
    • Funding for the Veterans Choice program.
    • Expanded eligibility for the Family Caregivers Program.
    • Gave veterans more access to walk-in care.
    • Strengthened the VA’s ability to recruit and retain quality healthcare professionals.
    • Enabled the VA to modernize its assets and infrastructure.
  • Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act in 2017, which authorized $2.1 billion in addition funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
  • Worked to shift veterans’ electronic medical records to the same system used by the Department of Defense, a decades old priority.
  • Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.
  • Increased transparency and accountability at the VA by launching an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with access to wait time and quality of care data.
  • Signed legislation to modernize the claims and appeal process at the VA.
  • Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, providing enhanced educational benefits to veterans, service members, and their family members.
    • Lifted a 15-year limit on veterans’ access to their educational benefits.
  • Created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.
  • VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.
  • Signed the Veterans Treatment Court Improvement Act, increasing the number of VA employees that can assist justice-involved veterans.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 29, 2019 10:42 AM
Comment #444115

Many thanks to d.a.n. for his in-depth analysis of President Trump’s first twenty months in office.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 29, 2019 2:02 PM
Comment #444116

Since I absolutely crushed j2t2’s contention that the Obama administration produced as many “manufacturing” jobs as the Trump administration has so far; our Pal has simply slunk away back to his cave.

It is a well know ritual among the Lefties here on WB. They throw out some totally off-the-wall notion, gleaned from the media or some inept politician, and expect us to believe it.

When these Lefties do attempt to link a source to prove their point, it usually is an editorial written by someone writing about subjects totally out of their field of expertise.

The Democrat Party is disintegrating before out very eyes. We are a witness to history being made. The divisions within this Party are deep and beyond healing. After the thorough political thrashing they will receive in November 2020, their base constituents will demand a split.

We will see the various factions splinter into small factions of single issue people.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 29, 2019 2:15 PM
Comment #444159
Since I absolutely crushed j2t2’s contention that the Obama administration produced as many “manufacturing” jobs as the Trump administration has so far; our Pal has simply slunk away back to his cave.

Such a bloated ego D.. First of all your false claims
1. Been working didn’t have time to bother with you.
2. What contention? That was you changing subjects after you got your a** whipped over your moronic allegations earlier in this thread. Have you no sense of decency?
3. Using Huffpost as your response to the information is not crushing anything FYI.
4. “Since 2010, General Electric has announced domestic capital investments that are projected to add approximately 2,700 jobs to the U.S. manufacturing workforce.” Really crushing isn’t it?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 30, 2019 10:29 AM
Comment #444174

Again:

  • (1)many thanks to j2t2 for being the gift that keeps on giving.
  • (2)As you can see, none of j2t2’s arguments prove anything; merely more grasping at straws with more circular nonsensical gobbledygook.
  • (3)j2t2, again, has a habit of attributing quotes to the wrong person.
  • (4)keep up the good work j2t2, it’s doing wonders for your credibility.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 30, 2019 2:51 PM
Comment #444175

d.a.n., sorry; I refuse to laugh at our Pal j2t2’s crazy comments. I refuse to paint him as uninformed. I refuse to consider his comments as “fake” news.

I refuse to do all that as you do such a good job yourself.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 30, 2019 3:24 PM
Comment #444176

You need to stop picking on the retarded boy, d.a.n.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 30, 2019 3:53 PM
Comment #444177

Weary, I think you just gave j2t2 a compliment, and insulted people with special needs by comparing them to j2t2 ?

Posted by: d.a.n at May 30, 2019 4:01 PM
Comment #444179

I’m demonstrating my non-partisan perspective by critiquing both sides.

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 30, 2019 4:18 PM
Comment #444180

: )

Posted by: d.a.n at May 30, 2019 4:27 PM
Comment #444182

Oh! No! I’m a Needsist!

Posted by: Weary Willie at May 30, 2019 5:26 PM
Comment #444183

I supported Trump before he glided down the escalator. His support materialized out of nowhere and everywhere. It clicked.

He sat through the ridicule. He defied the predictions. He stopped the clock and reset it.

I’m not afraid of being left behind. President Trump is the lightning rod and the attacks that once worked in the one-way media are being deflected and brought to ground.

I know the Left is going to lose, again. I’m not afraid of reliving history, because the ideals written into the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, will always prevail.

I would appreciate a discussion pertaining to the amendments ratified since. I believe those three documents mentioned above should be enough.


Posted by: Weary Willie at May 30, 2019 5:51 PM
Comment #444202

The only path possible to significant reforms may be via Article V, which states:

    The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
Congress has failed (for decades) to honor their sworn duty to uphold the U.S. Constitution, despite three fourths of the states already having submitted hundreds of Article V applications.
There have been 171 Balanced Budget/General Amendments submitted by 39 different states (more than the 3/4 required), yet Congress has ignored ALL applications.

Posted by: d.a.n at May 31, 2019 8:30 AM
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