The Other Enemy of The President's Border Wall

Twenty years ago, there was TV show called The West Wing. You may have seen it, if only hi-lights of some episode on YouTube. In one show Martin Sheen, playing President Josiah Bartlet, angrily snaps, “I’m the President, I can nationalize the trucking industry!”

I sometimes still laugh out loud at that line, and I'm not sure what Aaron Sorkin - the show's creator - was thinking when he or his other writers came up with that, but I now realize they likely had done a little research on the National Emergencies Act of 1976. As I previously wrote back around Christmas time, the Act was a way of containing a president within a procedural format when they decide to call a national emergency, and has precedent, in terms of the limits of what defines a national emergency and what a president has the power to declare and do, in a lawsuit by American steel manufacturers against Harry Truman during the Korean War.

The 1976 Act, however, gave the president wide berth to exercise his (or someday her) executive powers. There are calculated by the experts to be around 136 different provisions that give the Commander in Chief a wide range of powers. As John G. Malcolm points out in The Daily Signal, the Congressional Research Service states the following:

Under the powers delegated by such statutes, the president may seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces abroad, institute martial law, seize and control all transportation and communication, regulate the operation of private enterprise, restrict travel, and, in a variety of ways, control the lives of United States citizens.

And as Malcolm suggests, these powers should be used sparingly because they are quite clearly a challenge to the separation of powers and to the role that Congress should play under the constitution.

So, what we really have are two questions to be decided, one political and the other legal:

  • Does President Trump have the legal right under the National Emergencies Act of 1976 to declare an emergency at the Southern Border?
  • Even if he has such a right, is it a wise move politically?

There are a few parallel legal avenues that President Trump might use, as Malcom points out, including a part of the Immigration and Nationality Act that allows the declaration of an immigration emergency due to unmanageable levels of aliens entering America, as well as instead declaring a national emergency that requires the use of the military and then under that cover, using funds and personnel (Army Corps of Engineers, for example) to get additional resources for border barrier construction.

These avenues are of course, vulnerable to inevitable legal challenges which are being prepared as we speak and have been prepared for months most likely. And they will be launched in jurisdictions like the 9 th Circuit where judges have been all too glad to curtail Trump's executive reach in ways they never would have considered under President Obama, even for disasters like Operation Fast and Furious.

Unfortunately, President Trump has another opposition force to contend with besides the 9 th Circuit, the media and Congressional Democrats. And that is the military, or at least parts of the military. His actions on Syria and Afghanistan, telling the generals that it's time to wind down their failed war in Afghanistan and that troops in Syria will be kept to a minimum or eventually removed, have made him enemies amongst the Pentagon establishment. And the House Democrats are playing that up to the hilt. Consider that:

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Adam Smith (a long-time committee member from Washington State's 9 th District) has lashed out at Trump saying:

As the President begins to steal money from military needs to build his wall, Congress must conduct oversight to identify exactly which projects supporting service members and their families the President has chosen to value less than this political stunt.

Well yes, to a Democrat who seems to be a bit of a hawk it seems like a stunt perhaps, but this cuts much deeper. In his official page as Chairman of the Armed Services Committee, it states the following:

Given his current and previous committee assignments and extensive travel, Smith has unique insights into today's foremost national security issues throughout the Middle East, including the war in Afghanistan, as well as Northern Africa and our larger efforts to stop the spread of violent extremist groups and their ideology around the globe. Understanding the need for a holistic approach to national security, Smith recognizes the importance of poverty reduction, access to education, sustainable global markets, diplomatic engagement, good governance and other measures to enable our pursuit of stable international partners. As such, he has been a long-time advocate of strengthening American diplomacy and development as well as defense.

If that isn't a declaration of a neocon-war-everywhere philosophy along with its concomitant nation-building trillion-dollar sinkhole, I don't know what is. Adam Smith hates Trump for deeply political and even philosophical reasons, not for so-called border wall stunts.

As well, in Defense One's newsletter, Katie Bo Williams and Marcus Weisgerber have this as their subtitle:

In a dark, rambling speech, the president repeated long-debunked arguments - and provided ammunition for likely court challenges.

And then in case you have time to delve into their short little hit piece they state:

But he undermined his own contention that there actually exists a dire and urgent need for the extraordinary declaration. "I could do the wall over a much longer period of time," Trump said during his free-wheeling speech. "I didn't need to do this." That statement will be "plaintiffs' Exhibit A," constitutional scholar Elizabeth Goitein said in a tweet.

Ok, we'll leave aside the fact that the data shows that it is in fact nation building in places like the Middle East that is the long-debunked theory, one that people like Defense One writers and editors, along with the military brass they cover, fervently cling to. Maybe in another 50 years or so they'll all be proven right. That is, if America keeps sending men and women in uniform to die in every last woe-begotten, poverty-stricken, and radicalized corner of the planet.

In other words, the debate over whether the southern border or the deserts of Yemen are of more vital interest to America's national security is a debate long overdue. It will be a nasty one because the Pentagon has more than its share of bureaucrats ready to defend their general's strategic but above all philosophical mistakes to the bitter end.

Like I said, maybe in 50 or more years they would be proven right.

Posted by Keeley at February 15, 2019 4:08 PM
Comments
Comment #438097

It is silly for any of us to predict outcomes of federal law suits that are likely to be decided by the Supreme Court. I am content to wait until there is a final verdict and resolution.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 15, 2019 5:02 PM
Comment #438100

RF,
Ah yes, a refusal to judge until after a judgment no longer matters. Did you ever manage to make a judgment about the murder of that journalist by the Saudis? You bought every far-fetched excuse trotted out by the Saudis and repeated by Trump, excuses intended to justify the murder of a journalist.

Not your finest moment.

Now we have a blatantly unconstitutional declaration of an emergency, and once again, you are paralyzed by the inability to make a simple judgment. Lawsuits are already flying. No judge in any circuit will ever go along with this. Why is this declaration so obviously unconstitutional?

Article 1 says the Legislative branch controls the ‘power of the purse.’ Money budgeted to the military or elsewhere does not become a slush fund for the president to redirect.

The declaration is an abuse of power because there is no emergency. When asked about his supporting statistics today, Trump could not come up with anything. He simply declared an emergency and left for Mar-A-Lago, not exactly the actions one would expect from a leader immediately after declaring an emergency.

It also sets a terrible precedent for abuse of power in the future.

Trump and a GOP Congress did nothing about this issue for two years, and as soon as the House went to the Democrats, suddenly it because necessary to shut down the government, and when that failed so atrociously, Trump pulled this little stunt.

By the way, I saw some of that speech, and that was really, really bad. Trump rambled. He skipped from one subject to another. He sentences barely made sense. Is he in a lot worse shape mentally than any of us realized? I mean, that was bad. That guy is not right in the head.

Posted by: phx8 at February 15, 2019 6:04 PM
Comment #438101

This article makes very little sense, surprise, surprise. The Daily Signal/Heritage Foundation stinkstank is a reich wing propaganda outlet, but I don’t know what the author is trying to say about the wall. Like I said before, watch the “wall” scene in Midsummer Night’s Dream and have a laugh. In the real world “the wall” will have to be built on property that actually belongs to people who don’t want to give up their property to the reich. We already know what happened with what was already built. Ropes, ladders, and saws still exist, besides shovels to dig tunnels and drones to fly over now. Kids could deliver drugs with their toys.

An Idiot Abroad - “Are You Having A Laugh” Episode 1 - The Great Wall Of China:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJB7dw1mMXY

The news is now all McCabe, 25th amendment, and putain’s puppet in the White House, which will have to be disassembled when the dried up dog turd leaves, to scrape off any scum his band of followers who couldn’t get security clearances might leave behind.

I have a new offer for shutting down the site. I’ll give you a Canadian dollar coin and 65 cents in American change if you’ll go away for good.

Posted by: ohrealy at February 15, 2019 7:10 PM
Comment #438102

https://www.nationalmemo.com/an-engineer-explains-why-trumps-wall-is-so-implausible/

Los Algodones, Baja California, Mexico, has to be seen to believed. There are more dentists per capita than anywhere else in the world. It seems like every square foot of public space wall is covered with advertisements promising quality and affordable dental care, vision care and prescription drugs. The community’s economy is built to serve the flood of “dental refugees” — mostly senior citizens from the US and Canada seeking major dental care they cannot afford in their own countries, even with insurance.

US Toddlers Shoot One Person a Week

The Highest Paid Public Employee in 39 States is a Sports Coach

7 States Have Custody Rights for Rapists

“If we are understood, more words are unnecessary;
if we are not likely to be understood, they are useless.”
King Charles II of England. His father had views similar to the moron/imbecile/idiot and his head was chopped off after he was tried for being a “tyrant, traitor and murderer; and a public and implacable enemy to the Commonwealth of England.“

‘Our President Is An Idiot’ says Ann Coulter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3BuX1SwQFQ

“amateurs, grifters, weaklings, convicted and unconvicted felons”, Chris Christie

Posted by: ohrealy at February 15, 2019 7:36 PM
Comment #438105

Ann Coulter just summed it up nicely when she said “the goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years.”

Posted by: phx8 at February 15, 2019 7:44 PM
Comment #438107

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some Yelp reviews:

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The owner so races.
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Politicians, actors and hedge fund moguls abound.

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If you want to go to a place with all the class and minus the “riff raff” — treat yourself here… if you are lucky enough to get in!

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Snoot Central

Posted by: ohrealy at February 15, 2019 8:26 PM
Comment #438112

“The only national emergency is that our president is an idiot.”
Ann Coulter 2/15/19

Meanwhile, latest filings show the SCO has the goods on Roger Stone. The SCO has the communications. Stone was in contact with the GRU- Russian intelligence- with the Guccifer 2.0 persona and others, and with Wikileaks. In the filing, his case is being legally linked with the indictments of all those Russians.

Manafort was sentenced to @ 19-24 YEARS. Obviously he is hoping for a pardon. According to Acting AG Whitaker in testimony the other day, Trump already has pardons prepared, although we do not know for who. Yet.

Posted by: phx8 at February 15, 2019 9:35 PM
Comment #438113

Has anyone heard these names in the news lately? I haven’t.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 15, 2019 9:38 PM
Comment #438114

phx8 wants to drag Stone out of the closet the social media titans put him in just to make his point.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 15, 2019 10:00 PM
Comment #438115

WW,
A federal court just released documents concerning Stone. That is why Stone is in the headlines. We already know there is a sealed indictment for Wikileaks, although we do not know what it is for.

The Wall and the shutdown and the national emergency were nothing more than distractions. Only one story really matters: Did Trump and the Trump Campaign commit conspiracy to defraud the United States by working with the Russians to undermine the election?

Remember, Trump said ‘I love Wikileaks’ more than 130 times in October 2016 alone. “Russia, if you are listening…”

Posted by: phx8 at February 15, 2019 10:10 PM
Comment #438116

phx8, you are the dark ages.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 15, 2019 10:18 PM
Comment #438117

phx8, let’s concentrate on whether Marie Antoinette actually said, “Let them eat cake.”.

Isn’t it much to do about nothing?

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 15, 2019 10:37 PM
Comment #438118

No, it is not much ado about nothing. We were attacked. The United States was attacked by a formidable adversary, the Russians, using cyber warfare. The goal of the attack was to undermine democracy and our faith in elections. The Russians determined the best way would be to attack Hillary Clinton and support Donald Trump.

The attack came from at least three directions: 1) social media, 2) Wikileaks, and 3) illegal campaign contributions.

Paul Manafort acted as an agent for the pro-Russian Ukrainians. He was compromised by a $17 million debt to an oligarch, Deripaska. By the way, the Steele Dossier was right again. Manafort was at the heart of the conspiracy.

Trump lied about his business dealings in Russia. He was working on Trump Tower right up until the 2016 election. He repeatedly lied about it to the American people.

One other observation-
I don’t think Trump or the Russians believed they would actually succeed in 2016. Trump probably thought he could get away with doing the Russians bidding during the campaign, and then close the deals once he lost. The Russians miscalculated because, while Trump is compromised and doing their bidding and acting in their self-interest, it has created a lot of hostility towards the Russians.

And be assured someone is already working on this. When Trump is gone and a Democrat in back in the Oval Office, we will settle up with Putin and his oligarchs.

Posted by: phx8 at February 15, 2019 11:45 PM
Comment #438125

phx8, all you want to do is lay blame. You’re not interested in making sure it doesn’t happen again. You’re not interested in it not happening again because it didn’t happen in the first place. It’s a figment of your imagination!

Give it up, phx8.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 16, 2019 3:22 AM
Comment #438151

“Ah yes, a refusal to judge until after a judgment no longer matters.”

Spoken like a true donkey braying nonsense. We all understand phx8 often rushes to judgement, and when usually proven wrong, retreats to his own private hell place.

phx8 is not smart enough to listen to both sides of opinions on any political issue. He jumps to repeat, like a good little parrot, the opinion of the latest politician or journalist he is butt-licking. He continues to prove his IQ has reached comfortable room temperature.

Our Liberal Poster-Boy phx8 writes this; “Only one story really matters: Did Trump and the Trump Campaign commit conspiracy to defraud the United States by working with the Russians to undermine the election?”

Senate has uncovered no direct evidence of conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia

After two years and 200 interviews, the Senate Intelligence Committee has uncovered no direct evidence of a Trump campaign conspiracy with Russia. Both Democrats and Republicans on the committee agree.

Since phx8 questions the Senate Committee; he must have secret information to prove otherwise. Let’s all urge phx8 to share this information with this committee and not with us.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 16, 2019 2:34 PM
Comment #438152

“And be assured someone is already working on this. When Trump is gone and a Democrat in back in the Oval Office, we will settle up with Putin and his oligarchs.”
Posted by: phx8 at February 15, 2019 11:45

I must admit phx8, this comment made me laugh out loud. I can imagine President Biden issuing a terse note of complaint to Putin about the 2016 election. We all know Biden has an “elephant-like” memory; and a “spine of steel”.

Please, Please phx8, continue to write more comments like this. And, please, please share your expert opinions on constitutional issues, MMGW, gun control, and gender confusion.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 16, 2019 2:44 PM
Comment #438156
Ann Coulter just summed it up nicely when she said “the goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years.”

Coulter ratted Trump out to his base! I bet, Phx8, that right now there are nationalist populist/conservatives/authoritarians/ Fascist/neo-Nazi/oligarchs all over the country denying they are the “stupidest people in his base”. Look at our Trump supporting friends here on WB diverting and deflecting like mad men…lol. Yet deep down they must know that Coulter was talking to them.

My favorite is the “Senate has uncovered no direct evidence of conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia”! As if the repubs leading this “investigation” tried to find anything! Lets make no mistake “stupidest people” Trump is compromised by Russians at the very least. Or are you waiting for Coulter to tell you the obvious?

Posted by: j2t2 at February 16, 2019 5:44 PM
Comment #438158

“As if the repubs leading this “investigation” tried to find anything!”

It seems j2t2 remains reading challenged. He missed this part of my post…” Both Democrats and Republicans on the committee agree.”

I offer j2t2, and his Liberal/Progressive/Socialist Pals some sage advice. Take off the political blinders when reading. You will be certain to learn and understand more and be found foolish less.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 16, 2019 6:00 PM
Comment #438159

https://www.verywellmind.com/an-overview-of-the-dunning-kruger-effect-4160740

The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. The combination of poor self-awareness and low cognitive ability leads them to overestimate their own capabilities.

The term lends a scientific name and explanation to a problem that many people immediately recognize—that fools are blind to their own foolishness. As Charles Darwin wrote in his book The Descent of Man, “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”t


Posted by: ohrealy at February 16, 2019 6:18 PM
Comment #438160

No one is paying any attention to the conclusion by the Senate Intelligence Committee. Why?

1. The Committee does not know any of the information provided to the SCO by Flynn, Gates, Cohen, and others.

2. The Committee does not know any of the information discovered in raids on the offices and businesses of Cohen and Roger Stone.

3. The Committee issued this report without even knowning about the meeting between Manafort, Gates, and Kilimnik.

4. There are still interviews to be conducted, and once the final interview is conducted, it will be another six months or more before a report is actually issued.

The only investigations that matter are the criminal investigations by the SCO, the DOJ in the case of Maria Butina, and the SDNY prosecution of Cohen.

In addition, there is at least one major investigation that has been completely redacted in SCO filings. We literally know nothing about it.

Posted by: phx8 at February 16, 2019 6:28 PM
Comment #438161

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/terror-management-theory


death anxiety drives people to adopt worldviews that protect their sense of self-esteem, worthiness, and sustainability and allow them to believe that they play an important role in a meaningful world. Human survival instincts, and the need to reinforce cultural significance in the face of death, often result in displays of prejudice, or the belief that the group with which one identifies is superior to other groups. In this way, people confirm their self-importance and insulate themselves from their deep fear of merely living an insignificant life permanently eradicated by death. TMT proposes that individuals are motivated to develop close relationships within their own cultural group in order to feel immortal, to convince themselves that they will somehow live on—if only symbolically—after their inevitable death.

http://www.tmt.missouri.edu/

Posted by: ohrealy at February 16, 2019 6:29 PM
Comment #438162

“No one is paying any attention to the conclusion by the Senate Intelligence Committee. Why?”

Easy Peasy answer to your “WHY” phx8. The media you read and rely upon doesn’t cover any news that doesn’t indicate Trump involvement with Russia.

Our poor Liberal Pal doesn’t realize that the committee was investigating “conspiracy”…and found NONE. All the four points made by phx8 are not about “conspiracy” by the Trump campaign.

My hunch is that the Mueller report will not find any “conspiracy” either.

It is laughable that the Liberals always want to disguise the failure to find conspiracy by referencing other crimes by other people.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 16, 2019 6:47 PM
Comment #438163

Senator Richard Burr was the Senior National Security Advisor for the Trump campaign. He joined in October 2016, and his statements show he is not as bad as Nunes, but boy, that is setting one low bar.

Initially, Burr said his Committee would not look into collusion between Trump and the Russians. That decision was reversed under pressure by others. He issued ZERO subpoenas. He issued few requests for evidence. He requested few resources for investigating, and did not ask for more. And he vetoed any public hearings of Trump associates.

Real oversight will be provided by the Democrats, especially the House Committees.

Posted by: phx8 at February 16, 2019 7:38 PM
Comment #438165
It seems j2t2 remains reading challenged. He missed this part of my post…” Both Democrats and Republicans on the committee agree.”

Two things Royal, first who said Dems on the committee agreed with the Repubs?

Second, why are you working so hard to make Coulter right about Trump supporters? I mean why would you think that dog and pony show they called an intelligence committee would even want to find any proof of wrongdoing by a fellow repub? They were to bust kissing his a** to find anything. You didn’t actually believe that “clean the swamp” thing ….did you?

Posted by: j2t2 at February 16, 2019 8:02 PM
Comment #438185

These are the true crimes and conspiracies that need to be investigated … far, far worse than any of the crimes (i.e. tax evasion, bank fraud, perjury) by U.S. citizens that were indicted or convicted for by Mueller’s investigation.

In addition, the have a Democrats’ despicable scheme, which despicably pits U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other, for more votes, money, and power.

The Democrats have not sunk this low since the Democrats:

  • (1) sought to continue slavery (source: www.britannica.com/topic/Democratic-Party),
  • (2) created the KKK (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan),
  • (3) create Jim Crow laws (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws),
  • (4) and imposed racial segregation (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats).

Posted by: d.a.n at February 17, 2019 1:25 PM
Comment #438188

D. such an anti rule of law message this ” far, far worse than any of the crimes (i.e. tax evasion, bank fraud, perjury) by U.S. citizens that were indicted or convicted for by Mueller’s investigation.” nonsense is. Why do you insist on letting Russia and Trump collude on American elections? Do you have a stake in the future Trump building in Moscow?

Posted by: j2t2 at February 17, 2019 3:33 PM
Comment #438190

How many world leaders do you have to blow to get nominated for a Nobel prize? Of course the answer is none, unless you are Donald Trump. Is this a sure fire indicator of weak leadership or is it narcissism and jealousy? I say it is all three. Which leads us to the real enemy of the border wall, Trump himself.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 17, 2019 3:49 PM
Comment #438191

“Two things Royal, first who said Dems on the committee agreed with the Repubs?”

OH, MY, Goodness phx8. Your link concerns the HOR.

For you benefit phx8, I will reprint my comment.

Senate has uncovered no direct evidence of conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia

I didn’t bother to link to the headline as you apparently can’t read effectively.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 17, 2019 4:02 PM
Comment #438192

Correction. It was j2t2, not phx8, who can’t read and understand.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 17, 2019 4:05 PM
Comment #438199

Royal Flush, It’s safe to say it is all of these three that can’t read and understand.

Regardless, they are the gifts that keep on giving. So much so, I often wonder if they are shills whose goal is to make Democrats look bad?

Posted by: d.a.n at February 17, 2019 4:42 PM
Comment #438200

IF these three aren’t shills whose goal is to make Democrats (and similar ilk) look bad, then it is truly remarkable as to the depth of their depravity.

Posted by: d.a.n at February 17, 2019 4:44 PM
Comment #438201

“Shills” d.a.n.?

Doubtful, that implies someone would be stupid enough to pay them.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 17, 2019 4:45 PM
Comment #438203

HHHMmmmmm … Maybe some right-wingers hired them, because these three are doing a great job of revealing the debauched nature of the Democrat party (and similar ilk). : )

The Democrat party doesn’t really need their help, but regardless, I hope they keep up the good work!

Posted by: d.a.n at February 17, 2019 5:09 PM
Comment #438215

Meanwhile as Big Lie proponents. Royal and D., continue to attack the messenger Albright warns us about their movement.

Royal such projection “OH, MY, Goodness phx8. Your link concerns the HOR.”! Yes great work Royal stating the obvious. However the big print at the top of the link says “House Democrats on Intelligence Committee cite ‘significant evidence’ of Trump-Russia collusion” which you may notice is the opposite of what you falsely claimed. Yet because you have zero integrity you refuse to acknowledge, like a true troll, this truth.

You tell us “Senate has uncovered no direct evidence of conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia” when in fact it was only the repubs who made this lie a part of their propaganda. You fell for it of course, yet you question my ability to read and understand. Do you realize what kind of fool this makes you?

It makes you a useless fool just like our friend D.. He is so backwards he has to run off false propaganda about Dems as if the “southern strategy” of Nixon never happened. Maybe irrelevant would be an accurate description of you two, as in irrelevant morons.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 17, 2019 8:52 PM
Comment #438216
j2t2 wrote more nonsense: It makes you [Royal Flush] a useless fool just like our friend D..
j2t2, you only offer worthless opinions, but rarely any sources, evidence, or proof. Perhaps that is because there is none to back up your failing arguments (which would explain your frustration that leads to your typical nasty, vuglar, hate-speech).

The true fool is the author of this growing list of nasty, vulgar, hate speech..

You don’t need anyone else to help prove anything about you, because (in case you haven’t figured it out yet) your very own comments (that you call your “words of wisdom”) reveals your true character.
IF you don’t mind, perhaps you could post your comments more often (since your list is constantly being updated with more -nasty, vulgar hate-speech—> … oh … I mean “words of wisdom”; i.e. see lines [01],[25], and [50]).

Only a fool can make a fool of one’s self.

By the way, why did you not vote in the last election?

And, again, as always, thanks for being the gift that keeps on giving!
Keep up the good work?

Posted by: d.a.n at February 17, 2019 9:25 PM
Comment #438217
j2t2 wrote more words of wisdom: … yet you [Royal Flush] question my ability to read and understand. Do you realize what kind of fool this makes you? … Maybe irrelevant would be an accurate description of you two, as in irrelevant morons.
HHMMmmmmmm … j2t2 seems frustrated?

Who wouldn’t be frustrated when the growing list of their own nasty, vulgar, hateful comments (i.e. words of wisdom) reveals the true depth of their depravity and hate.

Posted by: d.a.n at February 17, 2019 9:41 PM
Comment #438218
j2t2 wrote: … as if the “southern strategy” of Nixon never happened.
Nonsense.
While the so-called “southern strategy” (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy) was wrong (a strategy by some in the Republican Party to increase political support among white voters in the 1950s and 1960s), it was not remotely as despicable as the Democrats, who sunk the lowest of all, many times in the past, and today:
  • (1) by Democrats’ scheming (today, and for the last 30+ years) to despicably pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other, for more votes, money, and power (based on decennial census).
  • (2) by Democrats who sought to continue slavery (source: www.britannica.com/topic/Democratic-Party),
  • (3) by Democrats who created the KKK (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan),
  • (4) by Democrats created Jim Crow laws (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws),
  • (5) by Democrats who imposed racial segregation (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats).
And, again, as always, many thanks to j2t2 for being the gift that keeps on giving!
Keep up the good work, and please don’t hesitatet to share some more of your words of wisdom !
Posted by: d.a.n at February 17, 2019 10:24 PM
Comment #438258

The other enemy of the presidents border wall is truth. Unfortunately our far right friends here on WB and around the country suffer from ” “illusory truth effect”. It is their own doing of course and they have been warned about repetition for some time now.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 18, 2019 5:40 PM
Comment #438268

That’s funny j2t2.
Unfortunately, the truth is, it is more about you you [j2t2], phx8, and Ed O’hrealy, because all of your numerous arguments and lies are so easily disproved, so blatantly false, and are so obviously motivated by a deep hatred for anyone who disagrees with your socialist/leftist extremism, as demonstrated H E R E by the vitriol in your numerous angry rants.

However, again, many thanks to j2t2 for being the gift that keeps on giving! Keep up the good work!

Posted by: d.a.n at February 18, 2019 7:01 PM
Comment #438299

D., Repetition dies not make a lie into a truth. I feel for you man, all caught up in that illusory truth effect and all. It makes us less of a democracy when people like you usurp the discussion with propaganda. The Big Lie demands this bullying, I know, as the real message of todays conservative/nationalist populist/oligarch/ extreme right wing is pretty much devoid of anything but fear and hate. Hence the projection and attacking the messenger.

As conservatism slides farther and farther to the right into oligarchy and far right extremism such as Fascism, neo-Nazism or some such authoritarian ideology we see you guys desperately trying to frame the narrative by persecuting people with differing political ideologies. You of course represent that here on WB. Trump represents the Big Lie at the national level.

Realize you are not contributing to the discourse with these propagandist tactics. The fact is it is to time consuming to read your nonsense time and time again and most people don’t read even once any more. I understand you believe repetition is the key to your message and it does work on the weaker minds but remember they are already converted to your cause.

I mean rating despicablity! Your diversions and deflections include “well its not as despicable as them”, which is laughable and proves just how low you and your political ideology have sunk over the years. You know since you have came back here to WB there has been no need to hand out the Goebbels awards, you just gobble them up almost daily. I was thinking about renaming it to the D.A.N award for the Big Lie. What do you think?

Posted by: j2t2 at February 19, 2019 1:46 PM
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j2t2 wrote: blah, blah, … , blah, blah, blah, … , What do you think?
I think you are the gift that keeps on giving.
Seriously. Please keep up the good work!
And, please give us some more of your “Words of Wisdom” … perhaps something different than calling others Nazis, Fascists, Repub F**ktards, Beastialists, F**king Fascists, as*hats, ignorant F**ks, or telling them F**k you, or Go F**k yourselves,. etc., etc., etc., as you do regulary as shown here in your growing list of Words of Wisdom ?
Posted by: d.a.n at February 19, 2019 2:26 PM
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j2t2’s Words of Wisdom

Posted by: d.a.n at February 19, 2019 2:28 PM
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j2t2 wrote: The Big Lie demands this bullying …
OHhhh … bullying like this ?
Is that your idea of “decency” ?
Posted by: d.a.n at February 19, 2019 2:36 PM
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SO I guess the question is are you satisfied now that Trump has declared a national emergency? Have you been placated enough for the time being. I hope so D.. You have given up on the rule of law and the Constitution because of the scapegoating of minorities.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 20, 2019 7:30 AM
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j2t2 wrote more nonsense: SO I guess the question is are you satisfied now that Trump has declared a national emergency?
Yes, because 2,000 homicides per year (5.5 per day) by criminal non-citizens, human and drug trafficking, and many tens of thousands of deaths per year (much of which due to drugs flowing across the U.S./Mexico border) is a national emergency. Bill Richardson, Democrat governor of New Mexico also called it an emergency (i.e. Aug 13, 2005 - New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson declared a state of emergency Friday in four counties along the … by crimes such as the smuggling of drugs and illegal immigrants. … kidnapping, murder, destruction of property and the death of livestock).
j2t2 wrote another lie: You [d.a.n] have given up on the rule of law and the Constitution because of the scapegoating of minorities.
Nonsense.
The constitution has not been violated. The President has the constitutional power to declare a national emergency due to 2,000 homicides per year (5.5 per day) by criminal non-citizens, human and drug trafficking, and many tens of thousands of deaths per year (much of which due to drugs flowing across the U.S./Mexico border). That is most certainly a national emergency.
Please tell us exactly what part of the Constitution has be violated?
Illegal immigrants are not scapegoats.
And the true villains are not the illegal immigrants who have not violated other laws (other than illegal crossing the U.S. border once, which is currently a misdemeaor).
The true villains are open-borders, socialist/leftist extremists like you [j2t2], many Democrats, and similar ilk, who:
  • (01) despicably pit U.S. citizens and illegal immigrants against each other for votes, by pandering to illegal immigrants for 30+ years, for more votes (via more representation in the House, via more U.S. House representatives, via apportionment of representatives (and more electoral votes, and more federal funding), based on population, based on the decennial CENSUS, which does NOT verify U.S. citizenship);
  • (02) are also fighting against a [x]citizenship check-box on decennial CENSUS;
  • (03) lie about level of crime by illegal immigrants, and refuse to report 2,000 homicides per year by criminal non-citizens (source: DHS, GAO, cis.org);
  • (04) lie about the cost of massive illegal (and legal) immigration (about $300 Billion per year in net losses; sources: www.washingtontimes.com ; www.youtube.com/watch?v=msGVs4lFDw4 );
  • (05) are calling for open borders;
  • (06) are calling to abolish I.C.E.;
  • (07) want another amnesty, like the shamnesty of 1986;
  • (08) refuse requirement for employers to use eVerify;
  • (09) want to give illegal immigrants drivers’ licenses, and also automatically register them to vote at the same time; and then Democrats ignore many tens of thousands of instances of voter fraud by illegal immigrants;
  • (10) want more mayors like Libby Schaaf, who warns illegal immigrants before an ICE raid to arrest illegal immigrants;
  • (11) want more sanctuary cities and states, where Democrats (and A.G. Xavier Becerra) passed sanctuary city and state laws that protect criminal non-citizens (e.g. an illegal immigrant, Garcia Zarate (already deported 5 times) can shoot and murder Kate Steinle, and be acquitted for that murder);
  • (12) want to abolish or restrict 2nd Amendment rights, and say it is worth it “even if it saves only ONE life”, but conveniently ignore 2,000 homicides per year by criminal non-citizens;
The Democrats have not sunk so low since the Democrats:
  • (1) sought to continue slavery (source: www.britannica.com/topic/Democratic-Party),
  • (2) created the KKK (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan),
  • (3) created Jim Crow laws (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws),
  • (4) and imposed racial segregation (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats).

Again, many thanks to j2t2 for being the gift that keeps on giving. Please keep digging that hole you’re in deeper adn deeper, and keep up the good work, because it is doing wonders for helping your extremist causes!

Posted by: d.a.n at February 20, 2019 8:35 AM
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Democratics spend years focusing on the casualties in the Iraq war. Night after night there were reports of the casualties of the previous day. Every time the count went up there was a story about it. Democratics demanded photos of flag draped coffins be recorded and displayed to the American people. 2,165 have been killed through Feb. 5, 2013 in Afghanistan.

William Gheen, of the Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee, told FoxNews.com. “It is our official estimate that more than 3,000 U.S citizens lose their lives each year due to the insufficient enforcement of our existing border and immigration law.”

The Democratics were up in arms for years concerning the people who voluntarily entered a war zone and died, but they are silent on the many more Americans who were involuntarily killed by invading illegals.

What do hypocrisy and honey have in common? Honey drips off a fork the same way hypocrisy drips off a Democratic.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 20, 2019 11:37 AM
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Weary Willie wrote: The Democratics were up in arms for years concerning the people who voluntarily entered a war zone and died, but they are silent on the many more Americans who were involuntarily killed by invading illegals.
What do hypocrisy and honey have in common? Honey drips off a fork the same way hypocrisy drips off a Democratic.
Well written!
No doubt about it.
And hopefully, more and more voters will realize how truly despicable and rotten many Democrats (and similar ilk) are, who care more about more votes, money, and power, than 2,000+ homicides per year by criminal non-citizens.
Again, many thanks to j2t2 for being the gift that keeps on giving. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: d.a.n at February 20, 2019 6:50 PM
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j2t2 repeatedly writes: D., Repetition dies not make a lie into a truth.
Very true. So, why does j2t2 not heed his own advice, and stop repeating all of this ?
Posted by: d.a.n at February 21, 2019 10:01 PM
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Weary Willie wrote: William Gheen, of the Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee, told FoxNews.com. “It is our official estimate that more than 3,000 U.S citizens lose their lives each year due to the insufficient enforcement of our existing border and immigration law.”
IF that is true, that is 50% higher than the 2,000 homicides per year, based on the estimates from the DHS, GAO, and other agencies.
The problem for decades has been that Democrats don’t want the collection of data about crimes by criminal non-citizens.
Therefore, the true numbers are probably far worse than anyone knows, and that is proving to be true as more and more data is collected.
The DHS and GAO reports alone are very alarming, because they show that homicide rates by criminal non-citizens are significantly higher than the homicide rates of U.S. citizens.
Some people (e.g. many j2t2, open-borders phx8, Ed O’realy, many other despicable Democrats (e.g. Pelosi, Chuck Schumer), and similar socialist/leftist extremists) say the DHS and GAO are lying about the crime rates of criminal non-citizens.
And then there is the monetary cost, which is possibly over $300 Billion per year. This daily estimate places it at about $0.73 Billion per day ($266 Billion per year), and that probably doesn’t include all costs, such as the costs of crime (such as all of this: site2data.com/victims1.html).
Posted by: d.a.n at February 22, 2019 11:34 AM
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D. tells us “Very true. So, why does j2t2 not heed his own advice, and stop repeating all of this ?”

Well D. lets start with thank you for acknowledging repetition doesn’t change a lie into the truth. Now lets ask ourselves who actually repeats the link you are asking me to stop repeating. I looked back and saw that it is only you that keeps repeating the lick to the taken out of context comments you ask to not be repeated. So as far as advice goes it should be you that stops repeating these accurate reflections of the facts.

Now lets move on to other things. First, while you may not want to hear it when Trump created this faux national emergency he did usurp the rule of law and violated the Constitution. It’s not a lie as you try to make others believe, it is a travesty of justice. The Congress holds the purse strings not the president.

Second I find it interesting the juxtaposition of the Iraq War and the illegal immigration problem we have in this country. One would think the country is one big war zone and only a wall on the southern border would solve the problem. However that is simply not the case. Where is all this hubris when it comes to the weekly mass killings and school shootings? Why wouldn’t thought and prayers work for both?

Third, Mexico will pay for the wall…. Yet now after cutting taxes for the corporations and the wealthy you now want the poor and middle class to pay for the wall so Trump and the far right can continue to hold onto power in this country. Oh and the billionaires that control the purse strings of the elected officials. The deficit is way out of line we cant’ afford to pay for a wall.

Fourth you need to understand that building a wall at the border has a tremendous impact on those whose lands the wall will be built. They don’t want the wall, for the most part, on their land. In fact the whole country is impacted by the wall. It symbolizes what is wrong with this country.

The wall symbolizes the divide between the rest of us in the country. Not the Corporations and the billionaires but the rest of us. It tears apart families and keeps those the perpetuate the Big Lie in power. It causes us to think the problem in this country is the illegals, not the corporations and the billionaires.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 22, 2019 12:54 PM
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j2t2 wrote: Blah, blah, blah, … , blah, blah, The deficit is way out of line we cant’ afford to pay for a wall, … blah, blah, blah.
j2t2 proves (again) not only how dishonest and hypocritical he is, but he proves that math and logic are not his strong suits, because $6 to $26 Billion requested for physical barriers on the border, are minuscule compared to the 2,000 homicides per year by criminal non-citizens, and net losses of at least $266+ Billion per year = $0.73 Billion per day (and most likely, much higher) due to illegal immigration (source: www.klowdtv.com/home.ktv).

Again, many thanks to j2t2 for being the gift that keeps on giving. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: d.a.n at February 22, 2019 1:48 PM
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j2t2, seriously, Thanks! You make it so easy. Are you sure you’re not actually a right-wing shill whose purpose is to make Democrats and socialist/leftist extremists look ridiculous???

Posted by: d.a.n at February 22, 2019 2:00 PM
Comment #439115

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