​Does Trump Want to Re-Engineer the G7?

Let’s hope it was just a one-off, unfortunate, but par for the course with this president. As he was leaving on Friday for Canada and the G7 summit, according to Breitbart, President Trump said:

They should let Russia come back in. We should have Russia at the negotiating table. Why are we having a meeting without Russia being in the meeting? It may not be politically correct, we have a world to run.

Ok, yes the G7 does do a fair bit of "running" of the world, especially on the economic side. And it has tended to very much be a pro-globalism organization. Which is hardly surprising, seeing it comprises the world's major economies - leaving aside the slightly absurd exception of Canada, whose economy is 17th based on Purchasing Power Parity.

But Trump shaking up the G7 might be a riskier strategy - or tactic - than the president realizes. Yes, much of his base will cheer his tweets regarding Canada's restrictive dairy policies which ensure Canadians spend more on dairy products than need be. And they might smirk at his in-your-face comments on how Putin's regime needs to be let back in to the group.

But more importantly, we all should ask the following: what type of world exists in 2018?

With the rise of China's neo-mercantilism and Russia's unconventional warfare, with Europe peppered by terrorist attacks and trying to integrate a huge wave of migrants fleeing poverty and chaos in the Middle East and elsewhere, with the futile hypocrisy of treaties like the JCPOA with Iran, with all that, how robust is the global world order? Or more precisely, what new world order is emerging?

It's hard to say if the president has thought through these issues on a deeper policy level. Likely not at all. But his instincts seems to guide him towards acknowledging that the order is changing. But that hardly assures that his shoot from the hip style will work out for America's interests around the world.

Here's a story that illustrates the problem.

In a revealing story in The Heritage Foundation's Daily Signal, US Special Operations forces have just wrapped up an exercise in unconventional, resistance-style warfare in Poland, called Operation Trojan Footprint. The goal? To send a signal to NATO allies in the Baltics (Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania), whose forces participated in the exercise, that America and NATO will support their resistance to any future Russian invasion - or any Russian-led unconventional warfare against them. And to also signal this to Russia itself.

Trojan Footprint surely took major planning and coordination with at least some of America's NATO allies, as well as a few G7 partners. The Defense Department, under Mattis, would have handled that, one assumes. And while Trojan Footprint is a dramatic example of how America works at all sorts of levels with its allies around the world, whatever President Trump happens to be tweeting at any given moment, it also serves as a balance against the idea that ties can simply be cut. That doesn't mean that some ties shouldn't be cut, or re-engineered if you will. But the links are deeper and wider than often is realized.

Does the G7 have to start thinking about the world economy in different ways? Ab-so-frickin'-lutely. Does NATO have to continue to upgrade and ready itself for mischief by means of unconventional tactics by Russia, and worse, on its Eastern flank? As well as refugees on its SouthEastern borders? One hopes it already has and is continuing to do so, including having debates about the size of their military spending in the old continent. And the president's bluntness can make this very clear.

But these are functioning, multi-level relationships. Changing them might need a few blunt statements as an entree, but there's always all the policy fine-tuning that also needs to happen.

This will be a snarky G7 I suspect. That's ok, but President Trump has to realize that as annoying as his host Justin Trudeau might be, never mind Angela Merkel, or Macron, or even Prime Minister May on occasion, they remain America's allies. Putin is anything but. And should not be re-admitted to the G7 unless he produces notable changes in Russian foreign policy, never mind Russian domestic policy. Shaking up assumptions is one thing. Re-engineering the G7, on the other hand, will take more than a few tweets.

Posted by Keeley at June 8, 2018 3:10 PM
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The “pathetic little man child” we call president left the summit without any progress. He is so cunning so able to fool…no one…except Kudlow and other conservatives! Trade war …zero tariffs… such a brilliant strategy from the Donald, who would be able to see through it? Well the rest of the G-7 sure did.

Meanwhile Putin is wondering how it got to be this easy. Dividing North America and Europe that is. Trump is Putin’s b**ch. Aid and comfort to the enemy….

Meanwhile the Trumpsters are all aghast that Trudeau and his staff have the temerity to tell the Donald to go f**k himself!

Posted by: j2t2 at June 10, 2018 11:34 AM
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We understand Liberals and Progressives like j2t2. They are so accustomed to having an unfair advantage in their affairs that they believe it is just fine for our trading partners to continue to rob us blind to the tune of a half trillion each year.

We should remind our European trading partners that we could stop using our military resources to protect their bloody asses. Germany pays hardly anything for its own defense and relies totally on the US. Merkel should keep her mouth shut before she costs her nation a lot of money.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 10, 2018 3:17 PM
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Trump is treason.

It was on full display at the G7. Russia attacked democratic elections held by our best allies using cyber warfare, and Trump said nothing about that. NOthing. He asked the Russians be readmitted, even after using cyber warfare against the French, Germans, and the UK, not to mention the most extreme example, the US.

Trump launched a trade war, an economic attack against our best allies, the western democracies. He sowed disunity and discord. He barely even mentions our shared ideals of democracy, freedom, liberty, and human rights.

Trump has been compromised by the Russians, and it has never been so obvious.

By the way, the latest indictment by the Mueller investigation involves a Russian intelligence asset colluding with Trump’s campaign manager.

Remember. It is staring you in the face. Trump is treason.

Posted by: phx8 at June 10, 2018 9:52 PM
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Royal if Putin was at the G-7 in place of Trump he couldn’t have furthered his interests any better than Trump did. Instead of representing the US Trump had Russia’s best interests at heart. Conservatives have been played by Putin with all this “they believe it is just fine for our trading partners to continue to rob us blind to the tune of a half trillion each year.” and “We should remind our European trading partners that we could stop using our military resources to protect their bloody asses.” nonsense espoused by cool aid swilling conservatives. Aiding and abetting the enemy.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 10, 2018 10:19 PM
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The weird thing about the talk of a trade war and trade deficits is that I don’t think they even know what happens with a trade deficit. I get the distinct feeling they think it is like a budget deficit, where we pay interest on borrowed money, but of course, it is not like that at all.

It gets even stranger because Trump is attacking Canada and Trudeau in particular, even though we run a trade surplus with them, even on dairy, which Trump specifically mentions. He just makes stuff up, as if no one will notice.

Listen to yourself. You are falling and falling along with Trump and his supporters. Where is the bottom?

Remember when you all complained about Obama, and how he was weakening our alliances and emboldening our adversaries? Now look at you. Trump is literally attacking our democratic allies over trade, and embracing the likes of Putin, and asking for Russia to be readmitted to the G7. No one tricked him into saying that. Trump offered it up, out of the blue.

Trump is treason.

Posted by: phx8 at June 11, 2018 11:31 AM
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Phx8 I think the Trump apologist are waiting for the WH to give them some talking points to defend the Donald with. Or perhaps the Russian propagandist to start up with a misinformation campaign on facebook or in the conservative propagandist media. With so many elected repubs outing Trump for his special brand of ignorance it can’t be easy for them.

But who knows they may just be waiting for a miracle in Singapore so they can change the subject and deny Trump is Putin’s bi**h. You know they are desperate when Faux News tells us the “the meeting between two dictators ” in Singapore referring to Trump and Kim.

But you gotta give Trump credit, he is in Singapore without Daddy Putin. Or at least we think so. Trumps big chance to prove himself and it is foreshadowed with the idiots attacks on our NATO partners and allies and aiding and abetting the oligarchy of Russia. The same oligarch who has been trying to undo NATO for so long.

My bet is on the strategy scam for this one. IMHO we will hear conservatives tell us the G-7 summit fiasco with the tough talking “pathetic little man child” and the cry for Putin to be included is all part of a superior Trump strategy that us mere humans cannot understand. They will tell us Trump has outfoxed North Korea with his insulting crap at the G-7 meeting. He is going in mouth a blazing to put the other dictator in his place. Just a guess on my part.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 11, 2018 12:02 PM
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My guess is that sane people don’t believe infantile nonsense like “Trump is treason” and “Daddy Putin,” merits any kind of response. Laughter maybe. But serious discussion? Hardly.

Posted by: kctim at June 11, 2018 1:53 PM
Comment #427871

Fuck Obama! Not down with Obama, Fuck Obama!

Wow! That felt good!

OK, stop applauding. You can sit down now.
Thank you, Thank you very much.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 11, 2018 2:42 PM
Comment #427873

The meeting with North Korea actually does have some potential. We got lucky. The last North Korean nuclear test in September caused a cave-in which reportedly killed 100 people. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of guys. The rescue attempt resulted in another cave-in and another 100 people killed. With luck, a lot of their top people in the nuclear program were buried. They unintentionally ‘denuclearized.’

The North Koreans made a big deal of ‘voluntarily’ burying the tunnels to the site in front of dozens of journalists. Why not? They had to bury as much as possible anyway. Imagine if more earthquakes unleash a radioactive cloud on themselves, Japan, China, or Russia.

So now the North Koreans basically have no functioning nuclear program, especially if they lost key people in the collapse last September, and no money to build a new site. They might as well negotiate for money and post a huge banner over the NK negotiating table saying ‘Pay Me!’

And why not? Anything that exposes their closed society to the outside world makes it worth paying them. That dictatorship won’t last long once exposed to the rest of the world.

Posted by: phx8 at June 11, 2018 3:09 PM
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“post a huge banner over the NK negotiating table saying ‘Pay Me!’”

Shouldn’t be hard to find such a banner.


Posted by: kctim at June 11, 2018 3:17 PM
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The left is desperately looking for something to make Trump the equivalent to their own lousy record. phx8 says the only thing we’re capable of doing to satisfy the ominous beast in N. Korea is to bow and offer tribute.

The only thing the left can count on to stay credible is the status quo. Anything else is a repudiation of their entire history.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 11, 2018 3:29 PM
Comment #427878

Why would you say such things? We all share the same goal- the removal of the North Korean threat. The best way to stop them from being a threat is to turn them away from dictatorship and open their society. That will accomplish our goals without much bloodshed.

I have no problem with the efforts of previous administrations re NK. They played for time. It was a good bet. It is still a good bet. That is not a government that can withstand exposure to openness. Right now they need money. They aren’t going anywhere with their nuclear program, so pay them. Open them up. They won’t last long. As long as their end of the deal involves letting in the West, we will win.

Posted by: phx8 at June 11, 2018 3:35 PM
Comment #427882

Ah yes, Phx8. Just like every thing else, previous administrations and luck are responsible for getting them to the table. Especially the last admin, eh?
LOL! You guys are a hoot.

IF “We all share the same goal- the removal of the North Korean threat,” why is it the lefts mission to undermine our nation and President?

Posted by: kctim at June 11, 2018 4:12 PM
Comment #427883

Since the Kennedy assassination the status quo reigns. That is, until Trump came around and threw a wrench into it.

From the beginning of Trump’s candidacy the left and the stuck-to-the-hip, right attacked Trump mercilessly. They mocked him and tried to humiliate him and Trump prevailed. The left has nothing more, never had it to begin with it seems, because Trump waltzed in and completely humiliated the status quo.

He changed the game the left can’t have changed. Trump can’t achieve anything called success because it would destroy the idea the Democratic Party was doing all it could.

Trump just turned on it’s head the idea the Democratic party is a problem solving party. Trump has shown the Democratic Party to be a problem maintenance party.

The emperor hath no clothes.

What amazes me so much is phx8’s claims of treason is being ignored by those around Trump. Both the left and the right aren’t calling Trump a traitor. The fringe is. The mentally challenged and the haters are calling Trump a traitor, not the mainstream. It’s not a comment taken seriously. phx8 might just as well go back to calling him a racist. He’ll have the same effect.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 11, 2018 4:20 PM
Comment #427885

As you may have noticed, one of the most famous actors in the world stood on a national stage during a live broadcast and said “f*ck Trump” and received a standing ovation.

And it has nothing to do with North Korea.

Remember, Trump ran his 2012 campaign on Birtherism, demanding Obama produce his birth certificate, because Trump thought he was not really an American. Yeah. That was racist.

Two championship teams, the Warriors and the Eagles, refused to visit the White House. You know why? Because Trump is a racist. And a bigot.

A lot of women can’t stand him either because he is a misogynist. You know. A p*ssygrabber. Cause you don’t even have to ask them when you are Donald Trump.

I detest him because he is a traitor and a crook. Others, including me, detest him because he is a racist, bigot, and misogynist.

And saying “f*ck Trump” gets a standing O.

Poor little snowflakes. This is what it looks like when we do away with political correctness.

Posted by: phx8 at June 11, 2018 4:29 PM
Comment #427887

The hypocrisy is that it’s the people who demand political correctness are the most vile. I’m glad we finally have someone in power who will tell these people to go straight to hell. They don’t deserve the attention the get.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 11, 2018 4:39 PM
Comment #427888

“I have no problem with the efforts of previous administrations re NK. They played for time. It was a good bet. It is still a good bet.”

Of course phx8 doesn’t mind previous administrations allowing North Korea to obtain nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them. It was mostly allowed by Dems. Not only did we lose again with Obama/Kerry agreement with Iran, we air shipped them billions in cash. And if and when Iran gets nuclear weapons our Pals will call that a “good bet” by Obama/Kerry.

If the Dems today held power under Hillary, we would not be talking with NK. She would follow the tired old failed policies of the past. Some sources claim that Hillary is drinking heavily. Sure am glad she is in Chappaqua rather than Singapore.

Our Liberal Pals can’t seem to separate trade and security when it comes to our allies. Allies don’t make threats when trading advantages they were given are on the table.

President Trump has declared he is for no tariffs and free trade. Oh, MY, what a threat to our trading partners.

I made the mistake of watching CNN for a time today. They just couldn’t show enough video of Mr. Showbiz, Robert De Niro, yelling “F*ck Trump” on stage at the Tony Awards. We all know how disturbed this guy is, but having the crowd of Liberals stand and applaud was beyond my imagination.

On the eve of one of the most important summits in our history, all this Liberal crowd could do was defame the president. Wow…what patriots.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 11, 2018 4:43 PM
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Pelosi also demonstrated the move the goalpost strategy, the I demand more mentality. She discounts employment and growth numbers to demand higher paychecks, like she thinks that can be legislated. Same ol’ losing mentality of the last century, a century dominated by the mental disorder called Progressive.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 11, 2018 4:50 PM
Comment #427892


I noticed a multi-millionaire leftist actor screaming F*ck the President of the United States and getting a standing O, while standing in a leftist echo chamber.
Of course it had nothing to do with North Korea, that would have taken a little foresight. Dumba$$ deniros anti-American rants are all about disagreeing with him on issues like abortion, gay marriage, taxes, healthcare etc…

The left voted for a woman who said we have to bring black men to heal, who had no problem with Confederate flags, who considered a KKK leader to be her mentor. But Trump is the racist because he demanded to see the birth certificate of a man wanting to be President.

Two championship teams, the Warriors and the Eagles, who, like yourself, can’t provide FACTS showing the Trump is actually a racist or bigot. All you have are assumptions based on your dislike of the policies he supports.

Trump grabbed a few a$$es BEFORE he was President, but a President abusing his subordinates while IN office is no big deal.

Face it, you guys detest him simply because you disagree with his politics. You have no proof of him being a traitor, you have no proof of him being an actual racist. You NEED people to view him as those things for the upcoming elections. Sadly, you are willing to undermine him and put the country at risk to get your power back.

Posted by: kctim at June 11, 2018 5:01 PM
Comment #427893

They put the election eggs in Meuller’s basket. They think Meuller is coming up with the October surprise. They’ve already stated that was the strategy when the guy got hired. The talking heads all agreed any results of the investigation will come out ahead of the ‘18 elections.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 11, 2018 5:08 PM
Comment #427894

The left is not afraid of Trump. They’re afraid of what he represents.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 11, 2018 5:12 PM
Comment #427895

kctim, a prominent Democrat has stated the obvious; the Middle ground of the Democrat Party no longer exists. It disappeared with the Clintons.

When the wealthiest Americans, supposedly educated and privileged to attend a national awards show, display their hatred for the president chosen to lead the nation, applaud obscenities leveled at the president by a man who has lead nothing more than a conga-line of America-hating celebrities who contribute hardly anything of value to the nation; we know for certain that only the radicals remain in the Democrat Party.

We Conservatives acknowledge that we have won the political war for the minds of most Americans.

Democrats of every age, education, and status recognize that their party no longer represents America and its citizens. Rather; it has become the last footing upon which crazed political fervor can stand.

We see in the Democrat primaries a last ditch effort to find moderate candidates to run for office. The DNC will have problems supporting any moderate Democrat who wins a primary nomination. The left wingers will not allow party money to be spent to elect a moderate.

The Liberals on WB are already reduced to lying about President Trump and what he has accomplished for the nation and all its citizens. They are irrelevant.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 11, 2018 5:25 PM
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So you’re upset about Robert DeNiro? Ask yourself this: why did the crowd respond with a raucous standing ovation? Is the audience at an awards ceremony at a live, nationally televised event a “leftist echo chamber”? Sure, you can dismiss it, but that response should set off warning bells. Remember, Trump finished his first year in office with the lowest approval ratings in the history of polling. He lost the popular vote by 3 million votes. The GOP won the House with just 49% of the vote, thanks to gerrymandering, and 43% in the Senate. It’s not exactly a prescription for pursuing a far right agenda.

But in the case of Trump, I don’t think it really has much to do with policies. Trump really doesn’t have any policies, other than attacking legal and illegal immigrants, and a trade war; even then, it is basically just an exercise in bigotry and racism directed at foreigners, and an overt attempt to weaken the western democracies in order to please Putin.

“Two championship teams, the Warriors and the Eagles, who, like yourself, can’t provide FACTS showing the Trump is actually a racist or bigot.”


Trump doesn’t represent much of anything other than male white supremacy. It is interesting that his supporters are primarily white male evangelical Christians from rural areas, and the old Confederacy.

“… a prominent Democrat has stated the obvious; the Middle ground of the Democrat Party no longer exists.”

What Democrat said that? If I recall, Obama is the first president in a long time who won two elections with more than 50% of the vote. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes. Polling consistently shows Trump with abysmal approval numbers. He is in the low 40’s. Incredibly, that is an improvement. Obama’s lowest was 41% over a span of 8 years.

Posted by: phx8 at June 11, 2018 10:42 PM
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The left is not afraid of Trump. They’re afraid of what he represents.

And rightfully so IMHO Weary. Putin’s b**ch is doing the bidding of Russia not the US. He bases his decisions on myth and misinformation not facts when he attacks other NATO countries while supporting Russia Weary, you should be afraid as well. It wasn’t that long ago you were all butt hurt when you made the false claims about Clinton giving away uranium to Russia. Now you sing a different tune as Trump does the bidding of Putin for the world to see. Hypocrisy the main pillar of conservative ideology.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 11, 2018 10:50 PM
Comment #427924

When did he attack other NATO countries?

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 12, 2018 7:05 AM
Comment #427926

I didn’t mean attack in the physical sense Weary I meant in the verbal sense. Trump has verbally attacked or used an ad hominem attack on Canada’s leader amongst others. No need for that bullying from him. I can understand he wants to get a better deal for the US but verbally attacking the prime minister and other leaders will not work as we have seen. Such a failure on the world stage.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 12, 2018 8:56 AM
Comment #427927

Trudeau attacked Trump behind his back after they had an agreement. Watch all the news, j2t2, not just the part you want to hear.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 12, 2018 9:30 AM
Comment #427928

I’ve seen his verbal attacks get results time after time. You have blinders on, j2t2.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 12, 2018 9:31 AM
Comment #427929

According to Trump, a known liar, Trudeau attacked him behind his back Weary, a big difference between Trump saying he did and Trudeau actually doing it. Trump may be butt hurt that Trudeau talked about what happened at the G-7 meeting at a press conference but it was hardly “behind his back”. Trump did leave early after all. IMHO Trump wanted to put the blame on someone else by using the Singapore meeting as his reasoning. Trump’s we “can’t appear weak to Kim” line is weak. To think a summit with the G-7 where Trump begs for Russia to be allowed back in isn’t weak is laughable.

The weak leadership Trump has shown around the other G-7 leaders is all Kim needs isn’t it? Bullying and blustering our allies as he tries and fails miserably to show strength was seen by all the world Weary. Trump is weak because he is a puppet for Putin and his Russian handlers. Compromised by his own self he aids and abets the enemy, which is as weak as it gets.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 12, 2018 9:45 AM
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Everyone enjoy the picture of the “very nice” and “honorable” NK dictator and Trump shaking hands in front of alternating US and NK flags? Yeah. That happened. The American flag side by side with the flag of the most repressive country on earth, place on an equal basis.

The NK summit resulted in one concrete achievement for NK, the end of joint military training exercises between the US and South Korea. It gave NK status on the world stage as a world power and the equal of the US, something no previous president was ever willing to do.

In return, the US received… nothing whatsoever. Well, a photo op for Trump pretending to be a statesman. Does that count?

Meanwhile, the G7 meeting stands out as the worst conference in modern history, thanks to Trump. He spouted lies about deficits with Canada, obvious lies:


It resulted in the US withdrawing from a joint declaration normally issued to show unity.

Here are some of the attacks:

“There’s a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad-faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door.”
Peter Navarro, Trade Advisor, on FOX News

“PM Justin Trudeau of Canada acted so meek and mild during our @G7 meetings only to give a news conference after I left saying that, ‘US Tariffs were kind of insulting’ and he ‘will not be pushed around.’ Very dishonest & weak.”
Donald Trump, insulting the PM of our good neighbor

“… he had a news conference, that he had because he assumed I was in an airplane and I wasn’t watching. He learned. That’s going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada. He learned. You can’t do that. You can’t do that.”
Donald Trump, this morning

What a freakin’ disaster. Trump created animosity with a close ally where none had existed for decades.

Posted by: Phx8 at June 12, 2018 10:29 AM
Comment #427931

Oh, and let’s not forget. J2t2 mentioned it, and it needs to be brought up again and again.

At the G7 conference, Trump said Russia should be re-admitted to the group. He said it without prompting. No one asked him. There was no gotcha question. He just spouted that, despite the fact Russia interfered with our election, as well as elections of our fellow democracies: the UK, Germany, and France.

Trump is treason.

Posted by: phx8 at June 12, 2018 10:39 AM
Comment #427932

I’m not the least bit upset about how childish DeNiro behaves. I do however believe it to be quite pathetic the way leftists disrespect our country, our form of government, our leader and our culture.

Yes, it was a leftist echo chamber full of multi-millionaire elitist Hollywood self-proclaimed liberals. Their applause means nothing more than it did leading up to the 2016 election. Hardly something normal people would consider “warning bells.”
Want to know a real warning bell that normal people are beginning to take seriously? These anti-American Hollywood elitists and our media colluding with the Democratic Party to alter elections.

“But in the case of Trump, I don’t think it really has much to do with policies. Trump really doesn’t have any policies…”

Of course he does, your all’s hate just prevents you from acknowledging them. Why so much hate from you guys? Because he is undoing or outright ignoring all your ‘progressive’ social justice conditioning that you have worked so hard to force on Americans.
Normal Americans care about the burden and dangers created by illegal aliens and Islamic terrorism. They care about their freedom of religion, their privacy and their right to keep and bear arms. They don’t care about the feelings of special interest groups demanding special treatment.

“overt attempt to weaken the western democracies in order to please Putin.”

Sigh. Is this conspiracy theory any different than the one about Obama weakening us in order to please muslim leaders?
Yes. That is how silly you sound.

“Trump doesn’t represent much of anything other than male white supremacy. It is interesting that his supporters are primarily white male evangelical Christians from rural areas, and the old Confederacy.”

Have you every asked yourself why you believe such nonsense? Because IF you were to do so honestly, I guarantee it will boil down to him not supporting left-wing policies on special treatment for certain groups and his lack of care for the so-called ‘social justice’ BS.

Face it, the Middle ground of the Democrat Party definitely no longer exists. You guys have moved so far left with your policies and anti America agenda that you have place to go but to hate for those who disagree with you.

Posted by: kctim at June 12, 2018 11:02 AM
Comment #427933

- Trudeau told reporters that imposing retaliatory measures “is not something I relish doing” but that he wouldn’t hesitate to do so because “I will always protect Canadian workers and Canadian interests.

Heaven forbid OUR President believe such a thing.

And why are leftists siding with foreign nations and leaders and attacking their own country and its leader?


Yep, anti American policy and social justice nonsense needed for their Utopia.

Posted by: kctim at June 12, 2018 11:48 AM
Comment #427934

Kctim, the question should be why is our leader siding with the foreign leader Putin and the Russians instead of the American people.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 12, 2018 12:30 PM
Comment #427935

It is slowly dawning on everyone that the Trump summit with Kim Jong Un was a stupid mistake.

The NK’s gave up nothing. Nothing whatsoever. The US announced it would no longer conduct an annual joint training exercise with the SoKo’s. The North has been demanding that for years. No other president was willing to capitulate. Now Trump gave up without getting anything in return.

It gets worse. Trump capitulated without even telling the SoKo’s. That’s bad. That’s really bad.

We walked away with a vague, one page statement.

The Iran agreement negotiated by the Obama administration was 159 pages. It was made in concert with our allies and other countries with common interests in seeing nuclear nonproliferation- the UK, Germany, France, China, and Russia. It included specific timelines, benchmarks for inspections, and a specific, detailed system for verification.

The one page document from this Summit, a document which Trump called “truly comprehensive”- I kid you not- included none of that. No timetables. No system of verification. Not even a definition of ‘denuclearization.’ That was one of the stupidest things Trump has done yet.

Posted by: phx8 at June 12, 2018 2:47 PM
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siding with the foreign leader Putin

I can only assume this quote, which is almost verbatim to a series of news headlines in Nov. 2017 when Trump and Putin met informally. Am I wrong?

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 12, 2018 3:12 PM
Comment #427938

J2, normal Americans aren’t going to waste their time questioning the silly theories floating around in your head.

Phx8, you’re too smart to be comparing NK to Iran. Come on man.

Posted by: kctim at June 12, 2018 3:51 PM
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The Left is always silly after a huge President Trump accomplishment. It takes the media lefties a few hours to consult each other to find some objection.

I watched both Fox and CNN reporting on the Trump/Kim meeting. Before getting their marching orders from the puppet-masters, the comments on CNN, by both their own commentators and guests, were quite favorable.

Then, the puppet-master scolded them and administered a good spanking. By this morning, with scripts provided, all the lefty chattering heads had changed their minds. Then, our Pals phx8 and j2t2 got the message’ and like good little parrots repeat it.

The way the Left handles good news is similar to the name of Hillary’s book…”What happened”?

Lowest unemployment in decades…bad news

GDP rising without causing inflation concerns…bad news.

NATO members beginning to spend what they promised on defense…bad news

Tax cuts for nearly every American…bad news

Not a single charge or finding, by anyone, of Trump collusion with Russia…bad news

Democrat mid-term election generic candidate 16 point lead…vanished

Elites attending Tony awards cheering profanity aimed at President Trump…expected

China already offering over 80 billion in more American purchases…bad news

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 12, 2018 4:21 PM
Comment #427941

Remember when Trump got elected and a month later the left was complaining about him not getting anything accomplished? Now, the next day, they claim nothing happened and they call it a failure. How do they know it’s a failure? They wished it a failure, that’s how.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 12, 2018 6:18 PM
Comment #427944

Weary, there was a time when the entire nation would celebrate good news. The end of world wars for example. Landing the first man on the moon. Defeating polio. The fall of the Soviet empire.

We have lost the ability to unite to celebrate good news. Somewhere along the way, a bunch of people robbed America of its community and national values. They convinced some of us that politics trumps compassion, logic, and trust. They found power in division. As God-based religious beliefs did not serve their goals; God was replaced by government.

Good news now becomes political opportunity for those desiring bad news. We are told that what is good for the nation is bad for politics.

President Trump proudly proclaims his love for America, God, and all our citizens. He is hated for it. Yet, a growing majority of Americans now follow his lead.

We can return the good order that marked our success as a nation. Many are now finding faith in what has worked so well for so long. We will never rid ourselves of the power hungry, the haters, the God-less, and those who want our national values to vanish. But, we can relegate them to the dust bin.

Good men and Good women are now doing something to combat evil. We will succeed.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 12, 2018 6:49 PM
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Good men and Good women are now doing something to combat evil. We will succeed.

Who are you kidding Royal. Conservatives are promoting evil not combating it, if you and Weary are any indication. You are putting Trump on a pedestal while he destroys the NATO relationship for the benefit of Putin and Russia. Yet you would have us believe “there was a time when the entire nation would celebrate good news….. The fall of the Soviet empire.”

This is of course based upon the theory you guys are actually good guys. And giving you the doubt I have to say the difference between you and the good people of Germany in the late 20’sand early 30’s, who also thought they were “combating evil”, is negligible.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 12, 2018 10:57 PM
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Then Royal we have the Singapore surrender from Trump. Yep Mr. Art of the Deal gave up a lot and got nothing new in return! And you f**ktards on the right sing his praises. You guys actually expect the rest of us to turn a blind eye to Trump and his poor leadership. You would have us believe there is good news just because Trump makes another proclamation.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 12, 2018 11:28 PM
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if you and Weary are any indication.

What have we done that is evil, j2t2.

You are putting Trump on a pedestal

That explains it. I guess only one party can have someone on a pedestal, right j2t2? Only Democratics can have a hero, a leader? Is that it?

Trump proved he was/is a leader throughout his entire life. He wouldn’t have 9 billion dollars if he didn’t.

Your so called leaders have produced nothing in their careers. They’ve only taken from those that do. And, you call them leaders. They’re actually criminals, but we’ve accepted the politician and the criminal if they carry both labels.

Hillbilly started out as hicks from a state with less people than Chicago and they now have millions of dollars. How does a public servant become a millionaire, j2t2? Do they do it legally? Can we do the same things they do to earn millions? No, we would go to jail.

You worship a false god, j2t2. You call it government. I call it a criminal enterprise, void of any reasonable ideas.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 13, 2018 12:14 AM
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What did he give up?

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 13, 2018 12:15 AM
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What have we done that is evil, j2t2.

Probably the same thing I have done Weary, nothing, but ask Royal.

Trump proved he was/is a leader throughout his entire life. He wouldn’t have 9 billion dollars if he didn’t.

Wow Weary it seems you have re-imagined Trump into some sort of demigod. But the fact is he is only a demagogue. Being a silver spoon he had his wealth given to him Weary. He has bankrupted more enterprises than he has ran successful, and lets not forget TrumpU which was a criminal enterprise.

Why is it you claim the government is a criminal enterprise yet cannot see that Trump was actually defrauding students at the scam Trump U. Your bogus claim about government, I don’t hold it up as anything but what it is, a way to govern, and it being a criminal enterprise tells us you are clueless Weary.

Trump is a failed leader so far in his term as president. Yes he cut taxes but all that did is raised the deficit and debt levels when the economy was running just fine. His promoting of Russian interests at the expense of US interests proves he isn’t leading he is being led by Putin. Yet you cannot see that or refuse to believe the obvious Weary. Perhaps identifying you with the good people of Germany is an overstatement as you seem to be not just misled by Trump but intentionally wanting an oligarch or a dictatorship. Your disdain for our system of government is certainly apparent.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 13, 2018 10:23 AM
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All of those you mention are opinion, j2t2. Nothing you use as examples are proven facts. Your comments are boring.

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 13, 2018 1:47 PM
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Your comments are boring.
Posted by: Weary Willie at June 13, 2018 1:47 PM

I could not have said it better Weary.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 13, 2018 4:07 PM
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