​No Discount No Tax Break - Casey Cagle Takes Aim at Delta

Casey Cagle is Georgia’s Lieutenant Governor and he’s mad as hell at Delta airlines, apparently. His tweet threatening to cancel a planned tax rebate on fuel taxes that Delta may benefit from - the Georgia State Legislature is debating the matter - has caused some angry reaction. He feels it’s his right as an angry supporter of the NRA, given that Delta is now no longer offering discounts to NRA card-carrying members.

Casey Cagle has also been a businessman, doing things to pay the bills like starting a tuxedo rental company as well as starting a small bank and getting bought out in the process. He's made money and he understands that business is about making money.

One way businesses make money is by curating or caring for their brand. So, given Delta's decision on cancelling discounts for NRA members there's a few questions:

Would Delta actually love to continue offering discounts but are scared witless by the public reaction to the Parkland shooting?
Or has Delta carefully reviewed the latest polls and decided it's a good business decision to be seen to be not favoring NRA members?
Would Lieutenant Cagle actually be willing to see Delta move it's headquarters from Atlanta - to put it in extreme terms - rather than change his stance on NRA discounts?
Does it really matter, legislatively speaking, what Lieutenant Governor Cagle thinks in terms of actual legislative action that might cancel Delta's yet-to-be-signed-into-law tax rebate?
In other words, for Delta Airlines, what matters more: profits or their stance on NRA discounts? That's not exactly a clear question to answer. We don't know the answer at this point, although one can assume that Delta has looked at the data and decided that NRA members boycotting the airline is not as big a threat as gun-control advocates boycotting the airline. But again, that data is changing by the moment. For now it's swinging towards gun-control or more accurately against the NRA. Will there be a backlash?

Yes, likely there will be a backlash but it is more likely to be political and to take place at the ballot box, rather than the check-in counter, come November. And yes, Casey Cagle is running for governor of the State of Georgia this fall.

It's important to put a little daylight between the highly charged emotions on both sides of the gun debate, and both the business decision of Delta, and political decision of Lt. Governor Cagle. We don't really know yet how consumers and voters will respond over the coming months on this issue and on the Delta airlines issue specifically.

But Cagle is betting it will shore up his base, and Delta is hoping their planes remain full. The first is a hard charging gamble; the second is a cautious and a little panicky reaction. Both are virtue signaling, even if Casey does feel strongly about the 2nd amendment.

Because Casey needs to not be the guy that sent Delta jobs to another state. And Delta needs to not be the airline that found it's planes half-empty because of it's NRA discount backtracking.

The thing is, it's virtue signaling because neither of those feared scenarios are likely to happen. Delta will stay in Atlanta as a "proud" member of Georgia's thriving business community (or some similar statement) and Cagle won't be blamed for sending good jobs out of the state as he campaigns for governor. And Delta's seats will remain largely filled despite some NRA members flying with other carriers.

None the less, the anger is real. And this may escalate. We'll have to see if Cagle softens his stance or doubles down. That may depend on how his colleagues in the state legislature react. This could be a test of how much things are changing, or not changing, as a result of Parkland.

Posted by Keeley at February 27, 2018 4:13 PM
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Comment #424836

“Yes, likely there will be a backlash but it is more likely to be political and to take place at the ballot box, rather than the check-in counter, come November. And yes, Casey Cagle is running for governor of… Georgia.”

Most likely Delta will just lie low and wait for the public’s attention to go away, just like the NRA and its bought-and-paid for politicians and the GOP are doing. Lots of talk, “thoughts and prayers,” and point at that shiny object over there. Squirrel!

However, if the GA GOP pushes it, Delta could announce it is closing its Atlanta hub. They might announce that even if they do not intend to go through with it. Delta management can read the polls as well as anybody else. They may calculate that taking a whack at the GA GOP could bring in Democrats AND that sweet tax break.

In state legislative elections over the past year, Democrats have won 37 seats. The GOP has won 5.

In a Senate election, a Democrat won in Alabama, the reddest of red states.

A Democrat won the VA governorship.

Today the governor of Texas warned early voting shows 135,000 Republicans and 151,000 Democrats.

The Republican president has incredibly low approval ratings- just 35% in the latest CNN poll. In an annual rating conducted by 170 Democratic and Republican presidents, the current Republican president ranked 45/45. In that same poll, counting only Republican historians, the president ranked 40th, right down there with a president who died one month into office, another who spent his term in the bottle, and so on. FYI, Obama ranked 8th best.

So Delta will make a dollars and cents calculation: the Russian probe will probably generate more bad news for the GOP, nothing significant will happen with gun control, and there will be more massacres between now and November.

Of course, November is an eternity away in political terms. But based on what has happened to date, Delta will try to hunker down and weather the GOP/NRA attacks, and if that doesn’t work, expect them to play some hardball and strike out the side of the GOP. Financially, this is not a battle the GA GOP can win.

Posted by: phx8 at February 27, 2018 6:40 PM
Comment #424837

Correction: that should be 170 ‘historians,’ not presidents.

Posted by: phx8` at February 27, 2018 6:42 PM
Comment #424838

Let’s get something straight, phx8. It is the NRA who is being attacked. Talk about squirrel! The bodies weren’t cold then either. No, it is the NRA being attacked.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 27, 2018 6:49 PM
Comment #424839

phx8, Birmingham AL would love for Delta to move their hub there from Atlanta, and many other cities as well.

Posted by: ohrealy at February 27, 2018 7:17 PM
Comment #424843

It is one thing for Delta and the NRA to be at odds. It is extraordinary for a political party to intervene on behalf of the NRA, which is, after all, just a lobbying organization. The GA GOP is betting big on a losing hand. Maybe the GA Republicans think doing this will help them with elections in November, but that seems unlikely. It is early, of course, but all signs point to an electoral disaster for Republicans unless they do something to change the topics of discussion. The Texas Governor, Abbott, is about as partisan as they get, and he is waving a red flag and shouting a warning about a potential GOP debacle in Texas, of all places.

And yeah, I’m sure a lot of cities would offer all kinds of benefits to induce Delta to relocate. All Delta has to do is publicly sign a Letter Of Intent, and just the threat will be enough to doom the GA GOP.

WW,
The idea of delaying any discussion or action after a massacre no longer flies with most Americans. We’ve all seen that play already. It is just a way of delaying and then doing nothing. But cheer up. The GOP and Trump will toe the NRA line. The NRA and the gun owners have their guns, and their opponents have no guns- they have nothing but their morals.

Change will only come through the ballot box.

Posted by: phx8 at February 27, 2018 9:27 PM
Comment #424844

“In state legislative elections over the past year, Democrats have won 37 seats. The GOP has won 5.”

As of tonight, Democrats have now won 39 seats.

Trump and the GOP are counting on the Russians to interfere in the midterms on their behalf. The government head of cyber security, Admiral Rogers, testified today that Trump gave him no orders to do anything at all about Russian interference- no punishment to deter it, nothing to counter current attacks, no plans in the future to prepare for it. Nothing.

Trump is treason.

Posted by: phx8 at February 27, 2018 9:59 PM
Comment #424852

Delta is a private business, if they wish to ignore the rights of all American’s and instead pander to the few and their so-called ‘social justice’ crusade, have at it.

The NRA is nothing but the leftists latest scapegoat. Any time the leftists lose at the ballot box, they find a target and attack it with propaganda in hopes of fomenting anger, destruction and violence to silence those who dare disagree.
Easier to do this than to admit that the reason they are rejected is because they are on the wrong side of the Constitution.
Their obvious lack of knowledge on these topics leaves them no other choice.

“Trump and the GOP are counting on the Russians to interfere in the midterms on their behalf.”

Suuuuure they are, Phx8.
Our intel agencies tell us that the Russians goal is to rile up our left and throw us into chaos. To pit Americans against leftists. But in this midterm, when the out party almost always picks up lots of ground, the GOP is just going to let Russia do all the work.
LOL!

“gave him no orders to do anything at all about Russian interference”

- Rogers told members of the Senate Armed Services Committee that that’s not to say the U.S. isn’t doing anything in response to Russian disinformation campaigns. He says he is taking steps that are within his command authority, but that the U.S. has not opted to engage in the some of the same behaviors that the U.S. has witnessed.

Your dishonesty is reaching new levels my friend.

Posted by: kctim at February 28, 2018 9:11 AM
Comment #424855

phx8

“In a Senate election, a Democrat won in Alabama, the reddest of red states.”

That’s because Moore’s candidacy was sabotaged. Had sessions, or Strange been on the ballot, that wouldn’t have happened. It’ll be red again at the end of session’s current term.

“A Democrat won the VA governorship.”

No surprise. McCauliffe was governor before, and last I checked he was a democrat.

This Russian conspiracy is going nowhere. It’s actually starting to drag in more democrats. Let the democrats run on amnesty for illegals with no real enforcement, and gun control. Democrats have more seats in play that are in red states. But we shall see.


Posted by: dbs at February 28, 2018 11:42 AM
Comment #424859

kctim,
Let’s look at what Rogers, commander of the US Cyber Command, testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee:

“Russia represents a different sort of problem in cyberspace. The Intelligence Community concluded last year that Russian actors, with the knowledge of senior decision-makers, employed influence operations to interfere with the U.S. presidential election in 2016… social-media companies explaining that their business records had logged an even wider pattern of Russian cyber meddling before the election — one that matched malicious cyber activities seen by several other nations.”

It was NOT a hoax, as Trump claimed dozens of times. It happened. Trump was briefed. And Trump lied to advance his own agenda, even at the risk of US security. Furthermore, he repeatedly claimed the election was “rigged.” That was a line straight out of the Russian playbook, spouted in order to discourage the Obama administration from acting.,

“The idea is to make Western electorates distrust all news outlets and ultimately one another. This threatens the foundations of democracy…”

The denunciations of the press by Trump occur almost daily.

Trump has NOT directed Rogers to act.

“He said of Russian interference: “We’re taking steps, but we’re probably not doing enough.” He said that sanctions and other measures haven’t “changed the calculus or the behavior” by Moscow. “They haven’t paid a price at least that’s sufficient to get them to change their behavior,” he added.

And in a couple of key moments, he made clear that he hasn’t been given additional authorities. After Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) asked Rogers whether he’d been authorized by either Trump or Defense Secretary Jim Mattis to do more against Russian attacks, Rogers said, “No, I have not.” After Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) sought some clarification, Rogers said he had taken extra steps within his purview, but that “I haven’t been granted any, you know, additional authorities, capacity and capability, and — no, that’s certainly true.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/02/27/nsa-director-mike-rogerss-careful-indictment-of-trumps-anti-russia-efforts/?utm_term=.df088097c3e9

Putin has no paid a price for conducting information warfare against us, so he will continue his cyber attacks on western democracies, especially us.

dbs,
The Russian conspiracy is going nowhere? How many guilty pleas and indictments will it take?

Kushner has been turned down to TS clearance because he is a security risk. That is what Deputy AG Rosenstein briefed the White House Counsel. And he has been given access to the PDB and highest levels of classified material! Worse, he has been requesting more than anyone else in the administration outside the NSA staff.

How bad does this need to get for you to see it for what it is?

Posted by: phx8 at February 28, 2018 12:53 PM
Comment #424861

Phx8, how many of those indictments and guilty pleas have anything to do with the main purpose of Mueller’s investigation? Please tell us in all your wisdom what can be done that we are not doing to stop Russia from interfering in our elections? Santions aren’t working, Obama’s slap on the wrist didn’t work.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at February 28, 2018 1:57 PM
Comment #424865

Attacking the NRA is another example of the left ignoring the problem and focusing on a political opponent. This is more about solidifying their base than it is about protecting students and teachers.

I would like to expand the idea of arming teachers and students to arming citizens. Private industry protects itself with armed security. Politicians protect themselves with CC and armed security. Many people CC and hire armed security. Not allowing armed security to protect schools is contradictory to established norms.

Why have schools been singled out and left defenseless by a directive initiated by the left, i.e. gun free zones?

The only answer to that has to be political motivation. It’s really sick when you think about it. The left’s knee-jerk reflexes to disarm and make defenseless our schools wasn’t to protect children. It was to “show” they “did something!”. You know, “for the children”. Were they crass enough to purchase stock from body bag manufacturers when they passed this free target zones law? Or are they banking long term for a disarmed public they can dominate?

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 28, 2018 2:33 PM
Comment #424866

Phx8, I read what Rogers said and nowhere did he say that he wasn’t doing anything at all about Russian interference, as you are insinuating.
It’s the same deceitful tactic you use trying to link these indictments to actual collusion.

Posted by: kctim at February 28, 2018 2:55 PM
Comment #424868

Just cut that crap out, kctim. You’re intentionally pretending I said something I did not say, pretending the issue is with Rogers, not Trump. TRUMP is not doing anything, TRUMP has given no instructions to Rogers, and TRUMP has not authorized to retaliation, and TRUMP has taken no action to deter Putin, or do anything whatsoever to discourage attacks that are going on RIGHT NOW, and will certainly ramp up for the midterms.

The problem is NOT Rogers. The problem is the CIC, Trump. Cyber Command cannot take more aggressive actions to deter Putin without authorization from Trump.

Posted by: phx8 at February 28, 2018 3:15 PM
Comment #424870

Rogers heads Cyber Command, but he cannot go rogue and take the offense. He needs authorization, and he is NOT getting it from Trump.

Posted by: phx8 at February 28, 2018 3:26 PM
Comment #424871

dbs,
In the AL election, Strange was an even worse candidate than Moore. Strange was incredibly corrupt. He was temporarily given the vacant Senate seat in exchange for not impeaching the AL Governor.

KAP,
“… how many of those indictments and guilty pleas have anything to do with the main purpose of Mueller’s investigation?”

All of them. The Mueller investigation is authorized to investigate Russian interference in the election, ‘collusion’ between the Trump campaign and the Russians, and other crimes that are uncovered as they investigation.

To date, we have seen 13 indictments for Russian individuals on a troll farm, 3 Russian corporations that funded them, 1 guilty plea by Richard Pinedo, a bit player who committed identity fraud and sold id’s to the Russians online, 1 guilty plea by a lawyer for lying to the FBI (and that thread will soon ensnare Republican Congressman Rohrbacher), guilty pleas and agreements to cooperate from Papadopolous and Flynn, guilty pleas by the Deputy Campaign Manager Gates for money laundering right up through January 2017, and a boatload of indictments against Campaign Manager Manafort that could be good for up to 148 years in prison.

BTW, Hope Hicks said she told some “white lies” while testifying, but thinks they were “not material.” That will NOT go well for her.

Note! Issues like that Russia meeting between Manafort, Kushner, Trump Jr., and the four Russians to discuss dirt on Hillary have not even been addressed, nor have potential obstruction charges.

Remember when Trump said this July, 2016?

““Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

He said it twice that day. Later that same day, he told a room full of reporters he was NOT joking, he was serious. The FBI opened its investigation just four days later.

Posted by: phx8 at February 28, 2018 3:38 PM
Comment #424873

13 indictments that will NEVER EVER be prosecuted. Phx8. The others have absolutely nothing to do with collusion or Trump. If you want collusion just go to the Hillary campaign and time in the state dept. Lets see $500,000 Billy boy gives a speech in Russia. I wonder how much their foundation got from Russia?

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at February 28, 2018 4:12 PM
Comment #424874

I posted a comment that should have been posted in the previous post in the red column. Oops. My bad. Pardon the intrusion.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 28, 2018 4:22 PM
Comment #424876

phx8, Hope Hicks according to MSNBC told lies but NOT on the major issues such as the Russia investigation. So for that point you can unwed your panties. I wonder how many of the Democrat staff members tell small lies for their boss’. I wonder how many of Obama’s staff told small lies for him?

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at February 28, 2018 4:40 PM
Comment #424878

KAP,
It is NOT up to Hope Hicks to determine whether her lies were relevant to the investigation. That is up to the prosecutor to decide. She is responsible for telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Telling ‘white lies’ under oath is a very, very bad idea.

“13 indictments that will NEVER EVER be prosecuted.”

Probably not. But it does expose them and take away their ability to travel outside Russia. They will no longer be useful as tools to conduct information warfare against the United States.

Not that you care.

“I wonder how much their foundation got from Russia?”

Look it up. The Foundation lists all contributions on a publicly available spread sheet. Of course, you don’t care about that. You intend to smear her, and the ready availability of facts doesn’t matter, since you belong to an audience trapped inside the conservative echo chamber of disinformation, an audience that will readily side against the United States, the IC, the FBI, the DOJ, Democrats, the MSM, and any Republicans that do not stand with Trump.

Not a good place to be.


Posted by: phx8 at February 28, 2018 4:55 PM
Comment #424879

Lol. Hope Hicks just resigned, one day after testifying before the House Intelligence Committee for nine hours.

KAP, how long are you going to keep humiliating yourself by supporting Trump? How long are you going to keep repeating the same obviously false talking points with attempts to deflect and distract, to accuse others like HRC and Bill Clinton, only to face humiliation within the hour?

This happened to you on Benghazi. Remember? Now it’s worse. Are you going to bailout, or ride this disaster into the ground?

Posted by: phx8 at February 28, 2018 5:23 PM
Comment #424880

phx8, The question is did she lie to the committees or did she tell those small lies to the media or some other irrelevant person? If she lied under oath I would expect her to be prosecuted but lying to irrelevant parties is not a crime. As far as those Russians go that you had your panties in a wad about, they are gone good riddance. Maybe Putin had them shot for being stupid and getting found out. Like I asked earlier genius what would you do that hasn’t been done already to stop Russia from interfering? Obama scolded them and sanctioned them, that didn’t work. More sanctions probably won’t work.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at February 28, 2018 5:30 PM
Comment #424883

phx8, I know she resigned, she is 29 years old and from what I read she has opportunities away from the W. H. After working a year in that environment I would probably resign my position also. Phx8 you humiliate yourself enough for both of us by your not so factual comments. At least I will go to media sites other then just the liberal talking heads. I seen you have been quoting the fake CNN a few times lately.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at February 28, 2018 5:44 PM
Comment #424888

Rich, I have caught phx8 in many attempts to promote fake news. Often, he simply makes things up. Other times he provides a quote that doesn’t even support his view when the article from which the quote is lifted is read. In this respect, he is much like j2t2.

phx8 is a “political bully”. What he can not achieve by following the rules, he attempts to obtain by sowing confusion, lies, and half-truths.

We read of his confidence in the November elections much the same as his confidence that Hillary and her fellow “cave-dwellers” would win the presidency and senate.

I read phx8 comments as they provide comic relief from serious subjects.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 28, 2018 6:32 PM
Comment #424889

Royal, phx8 is fun to debate because I know all he does is get his info from liberal talking heads that have a hatred for Trump and will blow out of proportion anything he does even if it is 2 scoops instead of 1 scoop of ice cream.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at February 28, 2018 6:41 PM
Comment #424890

Right you are Rich. phx8 has what I call a “reference of convenience” method of sorting truth from fiction. His speculation about the resignation of Hope Hicks follows his usual pattern of “lying between the lines”.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 28, 2018 6:49 PM
Comment #424891

phx8 wrote; “The Texas Governor, Abbott, is about as partisan as they get, and he is waving a red flag and shouting a warning about a potential GOP debacle in Texas, of all places.”

Sorry Pal, several factors are amping up Democratic numbers: The party has competitive primaries in several top-tier congressional races, and Democrats are choosing between several gubernatorial candidates.

On the GOP side, most primaries are barely contested; Abbott faces no serious intraparty challenge, and neither does Sen. Ted Cruz (R).

Governor Abbott is skilled at using fear of a Democrat victory as fund-raising fodder. Where phx8 sees a “red flag”, I see millions being raised for the November campaign.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 28, 2018 7:06 PM
Comment #424895

KAP,
“As far as those Russians go… they are gone good riddance. Maybe Putin had them shot for being stupid and getting found out.”

Maybe. The ‘Professor’ that offered Papadopoulos dirt on HRC in April 2016 has disappeared. No one knows what happened to him, not even his fiancé.

RF,
“The party has competitive primaries in several top-tier congressional races, and Democrats are choosing between several gubernatorial candidates.

On the GOP side, most primaries are barely contested.”

It was not me that issued the warning about an impending Democratic tsunami in Texas, it was Governor Abbot. He said early returns should “shock every conservative to their core.”

So it was an e-mail, and maybe TX Governor Abbott was exaggerating in order to gin up campaign contributions. Senator Cruz issued a similar warning. In AL, maybe it was only a flawed Senate candidate- endorsed by Trump- that enabled Democrats to take a Senate seat in a deeply red state. There are a lot of examples where Democrat wins can be attributed to local issues and weak GOP candidates. But all of them?

In state legislative contests it is 39 - 6 in favor of Democrats. One Senate and one Governorship have gone to Democrats. 4/12 GOP House contests have flipped. The NJ governorship will almost certainly flip to the Democrats.

The only good news is that Rasmussen polling shows Trump’s approval rating at 110%!

Kidding. Not really.

The president has extremely low approval ratings, 35% in the latest CNN poll. 170 historians, Democrats and Republicans, ranked Trump 45/45.

Trump’s third head of Communications, Hope Hicks, just resigned after giving 9 hours of testimony to the House. She is young. She is in WAY over her head. She is at risk of going to jail. She knows it. Will she sacrifice her freedom to protect Donald Trump?

The Deputy Communications Director, Josh Raffle, resigned yesterday.

This is not normal. People have left the Trump administration at a record setting rate. No other modern administration comes close to the number of rats who have deserted the Trump ship.

Posted by: phx8 at February 28, 2018 10:38 PM
Comment #424900

Phx8

“You’re intentionally pretending I said something I did not say”

—The government head of cyber security, Admiral Rogers, testified today that Trump gave him no orders to do anything at all about Russian interference- no punishment to deter it, nothing to counter current attacks, no plans in the future to prepare for it. Nothing.—

1. You think that the government head of cyber security is doing nothing about the hacks. You don’t.
2. You think that the government head of cyber security needs orders to do something about the hacks. You don’t.
3. You want to intentionally mislead people into thinking that 1 and 2 are true and blame Trump. Bingo!

insinuate: suggest or hint (something bad or reprehensible) in an indirect and unpleasant way; maneuver oneself into (a position of favor or office) by subtle manipulation.

“pretending the issue is with Rogers, not Trump.”

Now who’s pretending someone said something they did not say?
I very clearly stated that the issue was the way you guys are trying to dishonestly manipulate people into voting for you.

Posted by: kctim at March 1, 2018 9:07 AM
Comment #424905

phx8, As far as Hicks goes she said she is looking for opportunities outside of the W.H. As a 29 year old after a year of the W.H. bulls**t I’d probably be looking for opportunities to. As far as her lies go did she lie to Mueller, congress or just to the insignificant people who asked about Trump? How many “White lies” did Obama’s staff tell about him or at that matter any democrat’s staff member? As far as Trump’s poll numbers go you pick the CNN poll, how did those same polls that had Hillary beating Trump work out for you?

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at March 1, 2018 11:05 AM
Comment #424907
rump said this July, 2016? ““Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.” He said it twice that day. Later that same day, he told a room full of reporters he was NOT joking, he was serious. The FBI opened its investigation just four days later. Posted by: phx8 at February 28, 2018 3:38 PM

The FBI should have arrested him for espionage that day, but they were too busy campaigning for him. They’re not going to come out of this as the same agency. They knew what was going on. Most likely Rinat Akhmetshin is either a double agent, being followed around or possibly even wired.

4/12 GOP House contests have flipped. Posted by: phx8 at February 28, 2018 10:38 PM

One more would have flipped, but Bernie told people in GA not to vote for John Ossoff because he wasn’t good enough for him. His cousin Larry David got that exactly right: “If I lose, I’ll bring everyone else down with me”

Posted by: ohrealy at March 1, 2018 11:17 AM
Comment #424912

Kushner has some meetings in the WH and got a loan on the ATT building in Chicago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/business/jared-kushner-apollo-citigroup-loans.html

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/realestate/20180301/CRED03/180309982/kushner-cos-scored-big-in-chicago-debt-deal

They’re all just crooks.

Posted by: ohrealy at March 1, 2018 2:11 PM
Comment #424914

Or, you’re reading what you want to read.

You did notice it was Kushner Cos. Not Jared Kushner that got the loan, right?

I’d hate to go through a haunted house with you, ohrealy. You see ghosts everywhere.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 1, 2018 2:41 PM
Comment #424919

“She is at risk of going to jail. She knows it. Will she sacrifice her freedom to protect Donald Trump?”

Really phx8. Don’t you ever wise up? You pulled this idea straight out of your azz.

I have sympathy for such a crippled political mind.

Posted by: Royal Flush at March 1, 2018 4:19 PM
Comment #424920

I don’t. I laugh and laugh when he’s found to be wrong again and again. A million laughs, that phx8!

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 1, 2018 5:27 PM
Comment #424922

Yes, it was Kushner’s company. While he is no longer involved in day to day management, he has not divested his ownership interests in the company. He obviously would benefit financially.

Posted by: Rich at March 1, 2018 6:03 PM
Comment #424923

no longer involved in day to day management

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 1, 2018 6:21 PM
Comment #424925

Weary, please! Kushner wouldn’t benefit by obtaining financing for a company with which he has a principal ownership interest?

Posted by: Rich at March 1, 2018 6:54 PM
Comment #424935

Sounds like Kushner should have just named it ‘The Kushner Foundation’.

Posted by: kctim at March 2, 2018 8:36 AM
Comment #424941

Should Hillbilly be responsible for what happens at the Hillbilly Foundation?
Just curious as to where you’re going to draw the line. Is it at a uniform point, or is it at a partisan political point?

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Comment #426243

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