He had a second-class intellect but a first-class temperament. I often cite this from Oliver Wendell Holmes describing FDR. I do it not to disparage FDR, who I have studied and admire, but rather as an illustration of leadership. Leaders need to be reasonably intelligent in the book learning sense, but after a point, more is not better and may be worse. There is more to intelligence and temperament is part of it. Good leaders can have lots of faults, but a poor temperament something they have to get right.

The temperament of a good political leader in a democratic system is special. It requires a good humor and a generosity of spirt. Good leaders are magnanimous. They absorb offense w/o being offended. They are not petty or vindictive. They are big enough to celebrate bigness in others. They know when they are right w/o assuming that others are wrong.

I agree with most of what John McCain said in his speech, but even if I opposed every word, I would still find inappropriate President Trump's saying, "You know, I'm being very nice. I'm being very, very nice, but at some point I fight back and it won't be pretty."

What a petty and childish thing for a president to say. It could be a line out of that movie "Mean Girls" and it is more appropriate to a high school. Consider that John McCain has what is probably a fatal cancer, how does President Trump propose to fight back? In a similar situation, can we imagine FDR, JFK or Ronald Reagan saying anything like this?

I disagree with some of President Trump's policies, but by no mean all of them. I consistently find is temperament wrong and his method of expression unpleasant and even threatening. I studied the speeches of great leaders and listen to them when the recordings are available. The best look to the stars, and we are inspired even we know that their reach will exceed their grasp. The great leader's purpose is not to make us think that he is big, important or capable of doing wonderful things, it is to convince us - we the people - that we are those things, and that together we can live up to our aspirations.

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Posted by: stephen rowan at October 19, 2017 1:51 AM
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Good points, C&J. And, could stephen rowan be a soviet BOT? Can’t be sure of much being put into the media these days.

Agree, President Trump is not ‘presidential’ to the degree that some other presidents have been. Andy Jackson and perhaps, Thomas Jefferson sticks out as outliers to the pc presidents.

Then, if one realizes that Trump is basically a New Yorker, grew up in that environment, lived in that environment, I tend to give him some leeway as to being pc.

Actually a good number of his base appreciates that he is ‘well grounded’, doesn’t just shrug off punches and accept things as ‘business as usual’.

I look at Trump’s ‘worldview’ and how passionate/determined he is to carry out an agenda of change.

Trump is not a globalist and for good reason, IMO.

Bush I, Clinton and Bush II pushed the world into globalism. Pretty much fully implemented under Clinton, we have had some 20 years to weigh globalism on he world scene.

Companies moved overseas to the world’s cheapest labor markets taking millions of jobs with them.

Simultaneously, US borders were opened up to ‘come as you are’ immigration putting huge pressure on the jobs remaining in this country.

Crime shot up in devastated areas devoid of industry.

Gangs flourished on weak/no immigration enforcement, pushing harmful drugs and violence.

Sanctuary cities blossomed to support immigration and weak/no law enforcement to control offenders.

Insult to injury was taking China into the WTO. China, a communist country, has been the soul supporter of North Korea back before the 38th parallel was established. They are determined to take control of the South China Sea, construction islands with defensive ramparts.

Now, they are our largest trading partner with whom we have something close to a $T trade deficit. It was reported that it cost more to ship a bale of hay from Richmond to Norfolk than to ship a bale of hay from Norfolk to China as the trade is all one way.

An example; I just purchased a carburetor from China for my woodsplitter for $10. A US mechanic could not even diagnosis a problem for that amount. US workers can’t compete with cheaply made and often poorly constructed products. I just had a lite-pipe stuck up my tail and insurance was billed something around $10k.

The middle class have done poorly under globalism. Other countries have done poorly under globalism. Russia was allowed to transgress on Ukraine. Now, they have a warm water port in Syria. Iran, having received a deal to give them nuclear weapons, is rampaging in the Middle East and pushing terrorism/unstability around the world. Then, we can come back to the ‘little rocket man’ and China.

What a shame that the growth rate in a country the size of the US has been driven by immigration rather than the natural birthrate of citizens.

George Bush made an eloquent speech this morning directed against Trump and his anti-globalist view. But, Bush’s every word served to make a case against globalism. We’ve had 20 years or so to evaluate and the people have spoken.

I say to George, Hillary and,the Communist News Network that you lost the election. Get over it.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 19, 2017 12:56 PM
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Roy, your comments are right on the mark; America has lost its way.

I understand and appreciate John’s remarks as well. I would remind him and others that an effective president of the United States must wear many hats.

Those who support President Trump truly believe that Washington has become a swamp of privilege for a few who have, and wish to continue, to dominate the daily lives of Americans with rules and regulations beneficial to few at the expense of many.

We elected a fighter; one who would speak up for our values in a forceful manner. Timidity in a president is not a virtue.

President Trump actually meant to establish the policies he campaigned on. We hired him to get the job done and we don’t much care if he wears boxing gloves to do it.

We are at war with those within our society who wish to change America into a socialist nation.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 19, 2017 3:38 PM
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Sanctuary cities blossomed to support immigration and weak/no law enforcement to control offenders


What about sanctuary factories and farms? How is it the fault of the cities? You’re pretending that the cities lured the people there. Offenders? You mean anyone except the employers?

I just purchased a carburetor from China for my woodsplitter for $10.
See, now we’ve identified who the problem is. YOU are the problem. Posted by: ohrealy at October 19, 2017 4:42 PM
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Our profound thanks to General Kelly for sharing his views on presidential contact of designed person upon death of a military member in service to country.

President Trump may not be elegant, but I believe he is sincere.

Trump chief of staff John Kelly defends his words to soldier’s widow


Posted by: Royal Flush at October 19, 2017 7:00 PM
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Correction. “designated”

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 19, 2017 7:07 PM
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I watched that and shared it on facebook. He told it like he saw it. There’s not a lot a Democratic can do to get much lower than what Kelly pointed out. ..and those same Democratics think they know what’s best for us?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 19, 2017 10:25 PM
Comment #420794

So our conservative friends idea of leadership is Kelly making excuses for Trumps screw up when addressing the mother of a solider who died in Niger. The man couldn’t even say he was sorry for, lets see what is the line…oh yes… told it like he saw it. He lied about it instead and conservatives making excuses.. and they think they know what’s best for us!

Posted by: j2t2 at October 19, 2017 11:09 PM
Comment #420798

What? It’s only Democratics who know what’s best for us? That sounds like hypocrisy, j2t2. Perhaps he should have met the mother on the tarmac in front of her son’s casket and made excuses.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 20, 2017 8:40 AM
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Kelly said that when Maxipad Waters gave a speech at a dedication ceremony she only talked about herself. He said they didn’t protest or get their panties in a bunch. They just said, “OK then.” and went on.

Unlike j2t2 and the rest of the thin skinned Democratics who never met an issue they liked. Who have to bitch and cry about everything. And when the bitching and crying is over they move on to the next faux issue no matter how insensitive or lacking compassion their bitching and crying is, it’s all political and all about them being butt hurt.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 20, 2017 8:49 AM
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That’s where we are today. Hillary j2t2, Barry phx8, and their progressive brethren sit like ghouls awaiting the next crisis — hoping that enough people are either killed or injured for them to prove to America that Democrats should control everything. Maybe they’ll get lucky and the nation will suffer a truly horrifying tragedy.
Posted by: Weary Willie at October 20, 2017 9:08 AM
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So Weary your logic is it is my fault Trump has to insult the grieving mother ! Me and the media for calling Trump out! The simple fact Weary is Trump could have had an ounce of integrity and apologized to the grieving family for his choice of words. Instead he took the low road, denied and lied. That isn’t leadership, which is the point of the the post.

The problem we see here is his followers, you specifically, then try to blame everyone else for his faux pas. You object to the media showing the country his true colors, for doing their job, for reporting on him. Yet you didn’t seem to mind when the conservative press and Trump vilified Obama relentlessly.

It is time for the followers of Trump to realize the lack of leadership we are facing as a country.Not just within the administration but in the repub leadership of Congress as well. Imagine a repub Congress that would add 1.5 trillion in deficit with their budget to the young people in this country by suggesting tax cuts will create jobs! Then to make matters worse we have a president who willfully lies about the tax cuts while cutting medicare/medicaid.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 20, 2017 11:29 AM
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Some leadership qualities seen in President Trump:

He is pushing for religious liberty and moral integrity, a la faux news.

He is brining attention to love of country and patriotism. While it is not mandatory to stand for the anthem, it is an accepted act of showing patriotism and should not be violated by bringing in side issues. Otherwise, why not drag a bunch of starved animals out before the crowd while playing the anthem, advertise blue emu, and so on - - - sports does not need to be politicized, unless that’s what people agree to pay for, and I don’t believe there is agreement for that.

He chooses to call families of military persons killed in action. In one case where one spouse was to receive $25k and the other spouse receiving nothing, the President felt so strongly about ‘making things right’ that he contributed $25k to the spouse receiving nothing.

He is taking on the long overdue problem of dealing with Iran and North Korea re the bomb.

He is working to get control of out of control immigration.

He is working to correct some of the problems created by globalism.

He has put a budget in place to support tax reform, designed to give relief to the middle class taxpayer.

He is working to get a better and sustainable health care plan in place.

Meanwhile … the dem’s have sunk to new and unimaginable lows of dissing the President on giving the $25k to the family member of a soldier killed in action and dissing the President on giving a condolence call to the widow of a soldier killed in the Niger attack.

dems are obstructing the functioning of gov’t by slowrolling every political nominee President Trump has put before the Senate and House.

dems are leaderless, void of leadership and, IMO, should be banned from functioning as a political party…

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 20, 2017 12:36 PM
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RE, thanks for another hilarious post from bizzaro world. Some of your sentences make no sense whatsoever.

“He” wouldn’t know what patriotism was if it was sitting on his spray painted face.

“He” is only giving tax breaks to the wealthiest people, because he hopes one day to become one of them. That’s hopeless. His children are only going to inherit his debts.

“He” is working to explode health insurance premiums to make it unaffordable to as many people as possible. He doesn’t even understand what health insurance is.

Dems are slowrolling every crook that he wants to appoint anywhere.

YOU have already banned yourself from functioning as a commenter here by continually posting nonsense because you’re so thrilled that we have a white supremacist government you nazi tool.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 20, 2017 12:52 PM
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Well … great green gobs of grimy greasy gopher guts

I must have hit a sore spot … I know, the truth hurts. But, ohrealy, rub on some blue emu and watch Hannity tonite, take an aspirin an see if you don’t feel better in the morn…

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 20, 2017 4:41 PM
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Mentholated monkey meat, I live in the 21st century and wouldn’t be watching Hannity even if I wanted to watch an insane liar make up stories for the fresh dog dirt in the WH, who has told over a thousand lies, and actually managed to tell 9 lies in one day earlier this week. If you don’t want negative responses to what you write, then quit writing barely intelligible nonsense.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 20, 2017 5:16 PM
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My Liberal Pals have sunk to a new low in criticizing the CIC in his effort to console the survivors of military killed in action.

It is simply breathtaking to behold the hatred on display by fellow human beings.

I pray that their black hearts receive forgiveness.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 20, 2017 5:32 PM
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I watch fake news, the Communist News Network, Farid and similar so I can keep informed of what folks think on all sides of the political spectrum.

To do otherwise would seem to leave one inane in debating issues. I highly recommend Hannity, tonite (9pm on FOX - 360 on direct tv)

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 20, 2017 5:32 PM
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The Atlantic, November 2017, response to the article, How America Lost Its Mind, in the previous issue:

1964…The Civil Rights Act… Since 1964, The GOP has managed to weaponize white racial insecurity and inflame bigotry for the benefit of candidates who otherwise wouldn’t get elected dogcatcher. Conservative talk radio and F*x News continue to worm their way into the brains of white Americans through endless diatribes of paranoia supported by carefully managed disinformation. Their patriotic accomplishment has been to damage the judgement (not to mention the hearts) of millions of white Americans…

Watch Hannity? Be more careful of your brain. Your not going to get a new one.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 20, 2017 5:34 PM
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Roy, I have not seen such fear and paranoia in the Liberal Camp since the Clinton impeachment.

There is a good chance we will see a Hillary “perp-walk” after all.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 20, 2017 5:38 PM
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Trump brought this latest disgrace with the slain soldiers upon himself. It is yet another good example of bad leadership.

Trump said nothing about the soldiers for 12 days, and then only when asked at a press conference. He could have said a lot of gracious things; instead, he suggested Obama and other presidents did not contact the families of slain soldiers. When pressed, Trump backed up. Nevertheless, it was false, and it was a horrible thing to say about Obama.

There were no tapes or transcripts. There were several people in the vehicle of the soldier’s family. They were on the way to see the casket, which was closed. The witnesses to the call agreed about the content and tone of the call.

Trump suggested reporters ask CoS Kelly about his dead son. That was another horrible thing to do, dragging Kelly into it.

Kelly held a conference. Kelly and Trump attacked the Congresswoman. Bad choice. They didn’t do their homework. Everything the Congresswoman said checked out, and there was video to prove it. Kelly and Trump were caught lying. It was totally unnecessary to go after her, and especially stupid since Trump and CoS Kelly did not know the facts before attacking her. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

This should never have been a story in the first place, and Trump and CoS Kelly have no one to blame but themselves.

Posted by: phx8 at October 20, 2017 6:14 PM
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While I furnished a link to CoS Kelly, phx8 links nothing to prove his hateful charges.

Chew on this video awhile phx8 and then make some more comments backed up by nothing but your nasty imagination.


Posted by: Royal Flush at October 20, 2017 6:24 PM
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Little birdie’s bloody feet, you should be a fan of drunken jeanine pirro, but maybe she appeals more to the other bar stool warmers here, or maybe you’re afraid to look at women. I know you watch the fake news, you already said you watch hannity aka lumpy. Is the Communist News Network supposed to be CNN, which employs all those apologists for the fresh dog dirt in the WH? I would think you would enjoy all those crazy right wing spinners and losers. When I watch clips of that, I have to skip over all those idiots. You would probably skip over all the people making sense to find out more about what the idiots have to say. What you would understand if you had understanding, is they just say the same things over and over. No right winger has anything to say. They contribute nothing here, there, or any where. Roy Ellis knew that before the white supremacist ran for POTUS as a publicity stunt, and got selected because of the voter suppression intended to help others. Now you’re happy to have the government run by the Vast Right Wing Corpocracy.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 20, 2017 6:42 PM
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oh, please do rub the blue emu on your head, not your butt.

Right, Royal. As Trump slowly gets more appointees in place the pace of investigations should pick up. Sessions hands are tied until Muellers investigation ends, maybe a year from now. Doubtful we can expect any real investigations from the FBI deputy. He, Mueller, McCabe, Holder, ex-attnygen, Comey, Hillary and Bill, Obama and a host of others need to be brought to justice. When Sessions is free to operate I believe justice will be served in most cases.

The entire democratic party apparatus should be trashed, IMO.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at October 20, 2017 6:48 PM
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Roy, your “Rogue’s Gallery” of un-indicted felons is impressive. My guess is that there are some real canaries in that bunch just waiting for the right deal before singing.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 20, 2017 7:01 PM
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Did I miss it or did Trump NOT say what the liberals are saying he said?

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