This applies to both left and right. I just dislike hysterics.

It gets crazier and crazier. The problem is that some groups now oppose “reason supremacy” and want to privelge their subjective feelings over the objective pursuit of reality. When they are challenged, they react hysterically and sometimes violently. These are natural human emotions, but the kinds that we are supposed to begin to address and control when we get past two-years-old.

We need to understand their emotions and respect its power to disrupt and disturb. But we need not and should not respect its righteousness.

I have operated my professional life around the adage, "Never complain. Never explain. Never apologize." You may have heard the it, but there is more to it in practice than the simple words imply.

Never complain refers to the useless bitching people do decrying their unfortunate circumstances but taking no action to change themselves or their adaptations.

Never explain refers to making excuses and trying to justify what a reasonable person would consider poor choices or faulty judgement. If you are active in addressing your failings, see above, you will fall victim to this less often and when you do it is best to move along as quickly as possible.

Never apologize does not mean that you never express regret or never make those perfunctory courtesy apologies. It means that you should avoid doing big things that you think are wrong. If you make a mistake based on good judgement and sound information that turned out to be wrong, you really do not need to feel guilty about it. Move on.

All these things are based on reasonable responses by reasonable people. I have been victim of my own emotions and I see that happens to others. But this is something to be endured, not celebrated.

If you are always angry or always outraged, you are just a shit. Get over it. You can be sure that people like me are judging you harshly, even if we do not say so. We may step out of your way, as we would for an angry animal, but the respect is for the danger,not you.

Posted by Christine & John at October 5, 2017 11:36 AM
Comments
Comment #420455

Thank you for this. It brings a bit of meaning to my current life situation, which is not what I want it to be. Last May, I finished all the coursework I need to graduate from school, but I lost my research funding due to some poor decisions I made in 2015 (perhaps too much time spent on Watchblog and too little time spent studying). Without any research publications, I cannot graduate with a Master’s degree, let alone a PhD.

Today, I work a job that I do not enjoy making less money than I made in 2013 when I had just graduated from college. Between 2015 and 2017, I borrowed roughly 50 grand in the hopes that earning good grades in graduate level courses would raise my GPA enough to convince a faculty member to hire me. I got the GPA I wanted, but there have been no new research opportunities. Life is tough and I struggle to find ways to move forward.

It is tempting to blame my situation on others, and it is scary to take personal responsibility for digging myself out of the rut I am in. There is a good chance I am going to have to do research as a volunteer during my evenings and weekends. It sucks to work for free when so many peers get paid to do exactly the same thing. I’ve probably violated all of Jack’s 3 rules or at least come close in this comment already.

Ultimately, the challenge is one of pride. I know that I am a smart and capable person and I want others to recognize me as such, even if I have nothing immediate that I can point to in order to demonstrate it. Working for free feels undignified, which is why I am so wary of doing it. Likewise, it seems so much easier if someone just offered me a better job or the research funding I want. I wouldn’t have to reexamine the problems I faced in the past or the uncomfortable feelings such reflection brings. I’d just be able to paper over my past and ignore the weaknesses of mine that caused it in the first place.

Posted by: Warren Porter at October 5, 2017 7:58 PM
Comment #420461

1982 was probably the worst and one of the best years of my life. That is the year I got married. It is great that Chrissy wanted to marry me, since I had no prospects.

We got married in August. I had just got kicked out of my MBA program because I got a one C too many. The one that killed me came as a big surprise, since I had the top grade in the class at midterm. I evidently really screwed the pooch on the final. So I thought I would join the Air Force. They would not let me in. I had what the doctor called an ulcer when I was 17. It was not, since I had suffered no symptoms since then and have not in the next 30+ years, but it kept me out.

1982 was a tough time to be looking for work. I worked at a place called “Flexi-Force.” Among my jobs was to stuff papers. My supervisor was an illegal alien. That was the job status.

So, I studied up on GMAT and got into a better MBA program. One important thing I learned is that it can be just as hard to get into bad places as good ones. I graduated with a better quality degree. But I never used it, since I also took and passed the FS test and that became my career.

So I went from an abject failure to a reasonable success in a couple of years. Did I become a better person? No.

Life success depends on a combination of luck and skill, but the primary driver is not intelligence or hard work. The key to success if persistence. Just keep coming back. Improvise, adapt and overcome.

I ended up with a career I never expect, did not plan for and was only vaguely aware that it even existed. I did NOT achieve the goals I set when I started out, but I found ones that were better.

I know that this is not much consolation now. But let me add another observation that is both depressing and uplifting.

Most of us end up okay. My friends and relatives who seemed to be on the road to great success have done okay. Those who seemed on the road to perdition have also done okay. MOST people do okay. You just need to avoid terrible vices like drugs or booze, stay more or less true to yourself and be persistent.

Posted by: Christine & John at October 5, 2017 10:28 PM
Comment #420462

BTW - come down to Virginia and I will buy you lunch and we may talk about such things. You know how to find me. Let me know.

Posted by: Christine & John at October 5, 2017 10:30 PM
Comment #420463

These C&J articles must be written by different people. Now C&J are objectivists, even though they never heard of it a few articles back.

If you are always angry or always outraged, you are just a shit. Get over it. You can be sure that people like me are judging you harshly, even if we do not say so…. Posted by Christine & John at October 5, 2017 11:36 AM

Pot, Kettle, Stainless Steel, and judgemental too.

I have a very happy life, and make friends wherever I go. I live in abundance, with more of everything than I could ever want. I don’t judge others, they manifest who they are themselves. I always apologize for my shortcomings. To do otherwise is arrogant and self-righteous.

Watchblog was once something. Now it’s something else. There aren’t 6 people here whose comments I read consistently.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 5, 2017 10:31 PM
Comment #420465

Ohrealy

I just don’t much like habitually angry people. Notice the ending sentence. “Even if we don’t say so.” I tolerate angry people, but I cannot not judge the bad behavior and avoid it if I can.

You say that you do not judge others. We all judge others, as you did in your comments. How can we not, unless we are just not paying attention.

Re apologizing for your shortcomings - this is okay as long as you are addressing them. If you find yourself apologizing over and over for the same thing, it becomes worse than meaningless.

Posted by: Christine & John at October 5, 2017 10:50 PM
Comment #420467

You should give your advice to the younger members of your family. You and WP both seem to think you know more than you actually do.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 5, 2017 11:27 PM
Comment #420468

I do give that advice to younger members of my family.

I share my experience. I have been reasonably successful in my career and life. If people can find value, I am content. If they can do better, good.

I am pretty good at assessing what I actually know. In fact, I am often accused of “sand bagging,” i.e. knowing more than I let on.

Posted by: Christine & John at October 5, 2017 11:35 PM
Comment #420478

warren

“Today, I work a job that I do not enjoy making less money than I made in 2013 when I had just graduated from college. Between 2015 and 2017, I borrowed roughly 50 grand in the hopes that earning good grades in graduate level courses would raise my GPA enough to convince a faculty member to hire me. I got the GPA I wanted, but there have been no new research opportunities. Life is tough and I struggle to find ways to move forward.”

Life is not fair, and no one ever said it would be. Most of us have been in your shoes at one time or another. Sometimes doing some serious soul searching is warranted, and sometimes it requires admitting to yourself things you don’t really want to consider.

Is your chosen path one that is a viable one for supporting yourself and generating a reliable income ? If not (and be honest with yourself) you may find it necessary to go in different direction in order to move forward while using your spare time to pursue your preferred interests. It sucks, but that’s the way the real world is. The old saying that “life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans” is very true. Either way, good luck.

Posted by: dbs at October 6, 2017 10:07 AM
Comment #420484

I loved the TV show; “The Untouchables” starring Robert Stack as Elliott Ness back in the early 1960’s.

There was one scene that has stayed with with since. A crippled man in a wheelchair was a notorious criminal who was finally captured by Ness. When asked why he became a criminal he said…”What else could I do?”

Elliott Ness answered…”You could have been president of the United States.”

We are all cripples in some way or another. And, we never know what paths our lives will take. I majored in Resource Management and Forestry but despite having work offers in that area, never took a job in my field of study.

I published and edited a hunting and fishing magazine and a fitness magazine, was a loan officer, worked as a car dealer finance officer, was a bird rancher and owned an insurance business.

Life is exciting since we don’t know where it will lead. Take the blows and the good that comes your way Warren and recognize that none of us are in full control of anything.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 6, 2017 3:46 PM
Comment #420488

Since we have chosen to talk about our careers and shortcomings; I must admit the US Navy prepared me for my career, which I spent 36 years doing and now enjoy a great retirement. As far as shortcomings goes; my wife of 51 years insists I have none.

Regarding Warren Porter’s discouraging life; I believe he chose the wrong field of study. As more evidence comes out that Global Warming is much like fake news, the hind teet that many have been sucking on for taxpayer grants is drying up. But I will certainly shed a tear for the tough times he has seen. But thankfully he’s been able to ride his parents HC for a few extra years.

Regarding Ohrealy, I doubt he’s happy. I’ve never met a leftist who is happy. How can you be happy living in a country that is responsible for all the ills of the world, that has stolen all the natural resources of the world, that has not opened her borders to anyone that wants to walk in, that believes evil capitalist and corporations are at fault, and tha has a Constitution and Bill of Rights that should be re-written in the image of socialism.

I believe every American youth should spend at least 2 years in the military. It works in Israel.

Posted by: Blaine at October 6, 2017 6:26 PM
Comment #420490

I have to say, if someone asked me what my proudest moment was, it was when my Drill Sergeant, Drill Sergeant Dingrhude, told us we were no longer trainees. We were soldiers.

I’ve never made more than 36,000 a year in my life, and only for 8 years at that. I think 14,000 a year would be a good average for my lifetime, yearly income if I threw out the highest and lowest.

I think the choices I made that effected my life was my quitting. My income is a direct result of quitting jobs. When asked why I got divorced I say I quit trying.

I had to take Sophomore English three times to graduate High School. Finally passed it with an A-. Typing was the most worthwhile class I’ve ever taken.

With three years of Sophomore English and a typing class under my belt I quit my job and watched my local governments operate for three-6 month cycles. It wasn’t pretty. I sat alone in a room full of people with their hands out. I thought I was a bee bumping on the glass when observing this, but I ended up a bird hitting the windshield. You see, when you go against the powers that be, you can’t be wrong. Not once. However, I was instrumental in a county council president and a commissioner’s reelection bid failing.

My greatest accomplishment is hanging on to my father’s legacy by keeping his property, purchased 3 years after my birth, in the family. My name is a 3th generation family middle name on my father’s side. My son is the 4th generation to carry that name. I’m not sure he will carry it on, so I may make ownership of the property contingent on his son carrying on that name. My niece named her child after my father for the same reason. She would be second in line as beneficiary.

Other than being stood up, laughed at, or slapped when asking for a date I could say life after divorce is fine and dandy, but I’d be lying. Living alone is a plus. Having a job that doesn’t require punching a time clock every day is a Godsend. I’m a little lonely, but that’s OK.

I got yuze guys!


Posted by: Weary Willie at October 6, 2017 9:03 PM
Comment #420491

So who likes hysterics? And what exactly is reason supremacy? And I have got to say C&J when you tell us “Never complain refers to the useless bitching people do decrying their unfortunate circumstances but taking no action to change themselves or their adaptations.” I have to think you are complaining. The lack of empathy is as bad or worse than the useless bitching you complain about in others.

To all of those that have there careers behind them, kudos, but do you really have a clue as to what it takes today to do the same? I think not. You had the GI bill, cheap tuition and Pell grants and such that paid for the biggest share of your education. Today we bind those that want an education to years of debt or to the wishes of the rich daddy that paid for them.

Our foray into conservatism and the Reagan revolution has left us a second world nation while you morons sit her and indulge in your arrogance. IMHO and paraphrasing “you are always angry or always outraged,and you are just a shit. Get over it. You can be sure that people like me are judging you harshly, even if we do not say so.”

Oh wait I guess this is a kumbaya moment. I to have had the good fortune to have grown up in the glory days after WWII and the 3 terms of FDR. In the days when a republican was no worse than Eisenhower. Before you guys voted for the guys that pulled the ladder on the next generation . I’m not angry I’m sad.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 6, 2017 11:49 PM
Comment #420493

j2t2, another leftist full of anger and hate. It’s not our fault that you chose to support the wrong party.

But, let’s look at this logically; the cities and states that are going bankrupt are controlled by democrats. When the democrats are in control in Washington, the economy and jobs goes down the old flusher. Is there a life lesson we can learn from this?

Posted by: Blaine at October 7, 2017 12:09 AM
Comment #420494

I can’t understand how a 4% growth is bad under a Republican administration and a 2% growth is wonderful under a Democratic administration. What’s up with that?!


Posted by: Weary Willie at October 7, 2017 12:57 AM
Comment #420501

Blaine,
You do realize blue states power the economy and underwrite the economies of red states, right? Red states are poorer, have overall lower levels of education, higher levels of obesity, poorer health, and economies more dependent on agriculture and commodities such as fossil fuels.

Blue states are richer, the people are more educated, most of the most prestigious universities are located in blue states, health care and the overall health of the populations is better, and economies are more dependent on innovation.

You write: “When the democrats are in control in Washington, the economy and jobs goes down the old flusher.”

That is completely false.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms

WW,
4% growth is usually unsustainable. It is the kind of number that appears in a boom/bust cycle.

2% is sustainable. Sustainable is good. The Obama administration led on of the longest economic recoveries in American history, with low inflation, low interest rates, a booming stock market, a construction boom, and recovery of housing prices. It does not get much better than that.

Btw, Friday’s unemployment numbers reported the first negative jobs number in 83 months, finally breaking the Obama administration’s record setting performance.

Oh. The AP reported Trump hit new lows for approval ratings, 32%. Disapproval is 67%, a truly remarkable number.

Posted by: phx8 at October 7, 2017 2:07 PM
Comment #420503

Phx8, nothing you say can be taken seriously. You embellish with the usual leftist deception.

Every liberal state wither the exception of California is facing budget deficits for 2017. And what’s with not allowing agricultural or fossil fuels to be allowed as incomes? If that’s the case, then we can’t count insurance companies in the northeast or tech companies in the west coast.

https://www.multistate.us/blog

You list all the faults of the people in the red states (poorer, uneducated, obesity, poor health) and those in the blue states just the opposite (richer, healthier, more intelligent). And who are you saying lives in the red and blue states? This appears to be a racist comment. Are the red states worse off because more blacks and Hispanics live in them? Are the blue states better because they are filled with rich white people?

There are no limits to the depths ph will go to bash people. In this case he’s bashing monorities.

Posted by: Blaine at October 7, 2017 3:52 PM
Comment #420504

I’m surprised at your statement, phx8. I never would have thought you think Bill Clinton’s growth rate of 4% was crap! Where was the crying then?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 7, 2017 3:53 PM
Comment #420505

Between j2t2 on his “pity-pot”, and phx8 on his “soapbox”; I fail to find any cogent thoughts that might be of help to, or inspirational for anyone, especially Warren.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 7, 2017 4:44 PM
Comment #420506

WW, ph blows like the wind. I’m sure, if you ask him how he felt about the Clinton growth rate that it has nothing to do with Trump. Obama was a disaster to the country, but Trump is worse. With the left, everything is backwards. Rights wrong and wrongs right. Even though there was 2% growth under Obama, it was better than 4% under Trump.

Royal, I agree with you…Warren Porter has a real problem with school loans, losing his graduate degrees, and the cutting of federal grants for fake global warming; but ph and j2 have absolutely no compassion for his dilemma. J2 just plain don’t give a 💩, ph is in his own little 🌎, and Warren Porter is now facing the real world without a government tit. Add to that the fact that we already have ours and are living the good life on retirement. Played 18 holes of golf with my grandson yesterday, and getting ready to head to a college hockey game. Tomorrow is Sunday and I get to worship God, life is good.

Posted by: Blaine at October 7, 2017 5:16 PM
Comment #420507

Amen to that Blaine, life is good. And, happiness is an “inside” job.

We do get to choose as we are blessed by Liberty and graced by Freedom.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 7, 2017 5:30 PM
Comment #420508

Normally I do not personally engage on WB and I do not reveal much personal information. The reason is that occasionally there are people here I do not trust.

WP, I read your comments, and I am sorry your in a tough spot. Generally, I would just encourage you to hang in there. I’ve been through some rough times. The way out came in totally unexpected ways. There was no way I could have foreseen how good some things worked out, especially when the times were the darkest. And yet, it did. What I am saying is, don’t project the current situation as one that will not change in the future. I’m not one of those people who believe everything works out for the best, or there is a reason for bad times- just that unexpected stuff can and will happen, and sometimes what happens is really good.

WW,
A higher growth rate can be good or bad. It depends on how it is achieved. The GOP plan is to redistribute and further concentrate wealth among the richest of the rich through tax cuts, much like Bush #41 did. That stimulates the economy in the short term, but it does not stimulate spending among those who spend money in the first place- the poor and the middle class- rather than the rich, who invest money in the stock market, bonds, abroad, and so on. Eventually it results in inflation, with too much money chasing too few goods. The national debt blows up, deficits climb, interest rates climb, and kaboom! Here comes the recession.

The Clinton administration raised taxes on the rich and encouraged spending with the middle class and poor. They in turn spent money consuming goods, rather than investing. We saw high GDP growth and consumption driving job growth. At the same time, the national debt was stabilized, and the annual federal deficit turned into a surplus.

Will Trump champion the little guy, and make tax reform revenue neutral, while redistributing money from the rich to the middle and poor? That would be a good thing. I would like to see it. But I do not think that will happen. Almost all of the income gains and wealth generated since 1980 has gone to the richest of the rich, while wages have remained flat for the middle class and poor.

A stronger economy would be welcome. But the idea that giving tax cuts to the rich will achieve that growth is ludicrous.

Posted by: phx8 at October 7, 2017 5:47 PM
Comment #420509

“…wages have remained flat for the middle class and poor.”

I wonder if anyone can help phx8 understand the laws that apply to labor supply and demand which directly affect wages.

Do the wealthy get wealthier by suppressing wages? How does that work?

Is the labor force of American citizens diluted by illegal workers? Does that affect wages?

Do tax increases on those with capital suppress or encourage the formation of business and employment?

What does stock ownership mean? Why do companies issue stock? Does a rising stock market benefit labor?

phx8 pays no attention to market forces within a capitalist system. Perhaps some one will give him a few lessons. He obviously doesn’t believe me.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 7, 2017 6:05 PM
Comment #420510

To say that the Bush tax plan benefited only the rich is grossly false. I would also say the Bush tax plan caused the benefits you mentioned.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 7, 2017 6:30 PM
Comment #420511
j2t2, another leftist full of anger and hate.

Blaine, more useless bitching I see. One question, does your wife lie to you often?

The projecting coming from Blaine and Royal seems to be a constant here on WB, whenever a kumbaya post appears. “Those leftist are angry and hateful”. Then they list the myths, misinformation half truths and outright lies necessary to keep their hate going. The rest of the time of course they spew hate and anger themselves.

Posted by: j2t2 at October 7, 2017 7:22 PM
Comment #420513

WW,
“To say that the Bush tax plan benefited only the rich is grossly false. I would also say the Bush tax plan caused the benefits you mentioned.”

Well, if you could subtract the economic crash at the end of the Bush administration and the net gain after 8 years of conservative economics of a grand total of 1.3 million non-farm payroll jobs, a gain due to the addition of government jobs- the military and the TSA- then sure, it worked out great. Of course, we would also have to ignore the stock market crash, the crash of the housing market, the collapse of the financial sector and near extinction of investment banks… Yeah, other than that, it was a great tax plan.


RF,
Supply and demand can be artificially manipulated. For example, ownership can suppress wages by a variety of means, such as forbidding labor unions, thereby divorcing workers from ownership of the goods they produce; in other words, workers become just so many replaceable parts, hired and fired without receiving the fair value for what they produce. If workers object, ownership can hold down wages through military force and police actions such as we saw in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, or ‘right to work’ laws today. If that is ineffective, ownership can simply offshore manufacturing, pay slave wages to impoverished foreign populations, and ship goods back into the US for a fraction of the cost, thereby further undercutting US wages.

Labor productivity has increased dramatically over the past 40 years, adding to profitability. American workers are some of the most productive in the world. None of this increase has been passed on in the form of increased wages, even though American workers take less vacation and receive fewer benefits than workers in other countries.

To put it yet another way:

“Over the last several decades, inflation-adjusted CEO compensation increased from $1.5 million in 1978 to $16.3 million in 2014, or 997 percent, a rise almost double stock market growth. Over the same time period, a typical worker’s wages grew very little: the annual compensation, adjusted for inflation, of the average private-sector production and nonsupervisory worker (comprising 82 percent of total payroll employment) rose from $48,000 in 1978 to just $53,200 in 2014, an increase of only 10.9 percent. Due to this unequal growth, average top CEOs now make over 300 times what typical workers earn.”

http://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-has-grown-90-times-faster-than-typical-worker-pay-since-1978/

Posted by: phx8 at October 7, 2017 11:36 PM
Comment #420514

You say only the rich benefit from the tax plan, yet you say the tax plan caused the stock market crash.

rather than the rich, who invest money in the stock market, bonds, abroad, and so on.

How does that work, phx8? Are the rich so dumb as to cause their own failures? You should be encouraging the rich then, instead of demonizing them. If they’re all stupid then let them destroy themselves.


Posted by: Weary Willie at October 8, 2017 9:04 AM
Comment #420519

WW,
“Are the rich so dumb as to cause their own failures?”

No. They are not dumb. They are greedy. They feel entitled. About 60% of the richest of the rich inherited their money. And when their wealth was endangered, such as it was when the stock and housing markets crashed, they were not about to be left holding the bag.

Alan Greenspan, a former Chairman of the Federal Reserve, thought the CEO’s and top managers of the banks would be ‘self-regulating.’ He thought they would act in the interest of their employees and stock owners, therefore, the government should not interfere with regulations. But without regulatory oversight, the CEO’s and top managers took bad risks. When the markets went south, some corporations folded, a lot of employees lost their jobs, and we saw the worst situation with foreclosing since 1929. The CEO’s and the top managers- very, very rich people- did not lose anything. They cashed in and walked away.

We just saw a great example with Equifax and their CEO.

We see that kind of entitlement with Trump cabinet members flying charter jets. They feel entitled. Price at HHS chalked up a million dollar tab in less than a year. He is gone, and Trump is hoping Price will be the sacrificial scapegoat. However, Mnuchin spent $800,000 on such flights, and others like Elaine Chao, Zinke, and the VA guy were doing the same thing.

Right now we should be using tax policy to redistribute wealth from the richest of the rich, to the middle class and poor. We should be acting to reduce the debt and deficit by raising taxes. Amid all the chaos that is not receiving any attention, but it should.

Posted by: phx8 at October 8, 2017 1:53 PM
Comment #420520

Why are you singling out only administration officials, phx8? Here’s a list of Democratics that have spent large sums of taxpayer money to fly themselves around their states where public transportation is abundant!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/07/31/senators-charter-1million-flights/13379561/

How many of your greedy CEOs are Democratics or contribute to Democratics, phx8? Your one-sided commentary makes your argument a facade.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 8, 2017 3:20 PM
Comment #420521

How did Jimmy Carter’s tax plan fare? Let’s compare Carter’s term to Reagan’s term and see how taxes effect the economy. Let’s do the same with Kennedy’s tax plan.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 8, 2017 3:22 PM
Comment #420522

Didn’t hear a word from you about Michelle Obama’s flights around the world! How could she afford all those flights on the president’s salary?


Posted by: Weary Willie at October 8, 2017 3:28 PM
Comment #420523
Only 24 of the 100 members of the Senate used charters last year, with the remaining senators relying solely on commercial aircraft, cars or trains to visit with constituents.
Schumer topped the field, with $298,276 spent on charters, more than three times the $93,098 spent by Gillibrand.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/07/31/ny-senators-spend-charter-flights/13436579/

You must be glad it’s Republicans complaining about Price and his private transportation. It would be hypocritical of Democratics to do the complaining (like you’re doing), right?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 8, 2017 3:33 PM
Comment #420524

WW,
“Didn’t hear a word from you about Michelle Obama’s flights around the world! How could she afford all those flights on the president’s salary?”

Obama was a self-made millionaire because of a book he wrote.

Did you even read the links about Senators flying? Get your act together, for crying out loud. Schumer spent the most in 2014. He is a Senator, and he makes a point of visiting 100 counties in NY. He used a four-seat prop plane. Many Senators, both Dem & Rep, use charters to reach constituents in remote towns. That is very different from what the Trump cabinet members are doing. They are flying in luxury for personal trips, and they are not using commercial when it is available.

This is the kind of thing that results in such a disastrous presidency, excusing bad behavior with ‘whataboutism.’ Instead of condemning something that is obviously wrong, you attempt to justify it by making inappropriate comparisons and then claiming both sides do it, therefore it is hypocritical to point out wrongdoing by your side.

That is how you end up supporting a candidate with a 32% approval rating and a 67% disapproval rating. And it’s about to get worse.

Trump is hinting he will not re-certify the Iran deal. That means the US will break an international treaty, even though the Iranians are abiding by the treaty, and even though our allies- Britain, France, and Germany- along with China and Russia, all agree the Iranians are abiding by it.
This will be a flat-out disaster for the US. Our allies will not trust us, and our adversaries will not bother to negotiate, knowing the Trump administration will not observe its legal obligations.

We’re waiting for Rexit- the exit of Rex Tillerson- and if Trump goes through with decertifying the deal, despite the advice of Tillerson and Trump’s national security team, along with our allies, there will be more resignations of top people.

Well, we’ll see. This could be one of the ugliest weeks yet.

Posted by: phx8 at October 8, 2017 4:17 PM
Comment #420525

Without knowing the circumstances behind his 1 million $ expenditures I would say they were excessive, but the question is, Is it normal.

This sounds like a capital hill post office scandal. It’s all normal until someone makes political hay about it.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 8, 2017 7:36 PM
Comment #420526

pdx8, some things that happened on those charter flights were meetings with persons who have a vested interest in some government policy. The charter is a nice private place to discuss these things, away from anybody who might be concerned at all about government ethics.

Our international reputation was already in decline when W was appointed POTUS by the SCOTUS. Then 9-11 saved him, and our reputation went back up for a while, until Iraq turned into a mess, and the financial system melted down. Obama managed to hold alliances together by virtue of not being an moron, but that’s all over now.

Unless something happens soon, we aren’t likely to have alliances in the future, so there’s no need for military spending at anywhere near the levels that we have. Everyone in the world, except wingnuts here, knows that our current government is so corrupt that no one can trust them. Maybe some of our traditional allies will start to offer bribes themselves.

BTW, I looked at some videos of flights into Portland in all the smoke. Unbelievable. I watch videos of a nice lady in Ireland named Colette O’Neill at Bealtaine Cottage, and it was even mentioned there in a letter she received from a Native American. Happy Indigenous Peoples Day tomorrow.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 8, 2017 8:12 PM
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It’s amazing how you can say that and still support a government of this size and larger. It completely defies logic to say what you’ve just said and then support any and every aspect of our federal government. You should be insisting on tax cuts and cuts in spending and then more tax cuts and more cuts in spending. It’s the money that makes this a corrupt government. Giving it more authority over our money contradicts any form of sanity.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 8, 2017 10:58 PM
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Oh,
From Day One I figured this would be the most corrupt administration in American history, and it wouldn’t even be close. But you know what? I don’t even really care. Corrupt politicians are the least of our problems.

There are a of stories flying around. Senator Corker, a conservative Republican and Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, says Trump’s recklessness is setting us “on the path to World War III.”

That’s bad. Corker is a guy who does not engage in hyperbole. He has already said Tillerson, Kelly, & Mattis are all that is keeping the country from slipping into chaos. Now Tillerson called Trump a “f****** moron” in front of a dozen staffers, and did not even deny he said it.

Trump is threatening to decertify the Iran agreement. He is threatening to unilaterally break an international agreement even though the signatories are abiding by it. He has told Tillerson not to bother with diplomacy in North Korea. And at a military dinner he described the situation as “the calm before the storm.”

This is bad. This is really bad.

Will Tillerson, Mattis, Kelly, and McMaster say they will quit unless Trump resigns? They might quit. Because I don’t think Trump will resign.

Posted by: phx8 at October 8, 2017 11:02 PM
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pdx8, other countries are stepping up to the plate on the N. Korea issue, with the void in leadership here. I said a while back that Russia or China may try to take some action there. Our international prestige has ended. Tillerson has his own agenda, and is probably trying to use business channels rather than State Dept. channels. I can’t get interested in Corker’s little twit feud with Twitler. The Generals will probably stay to the bitter end. Mattis is probably the most reliable of those. I don’t think any of them are going to be the Curtis Lemay in this situation. The POS should have been impeached a long time ago. If he tries to push any buttons he shouldn’t, I think it’ll be 25th amendment time.

Incidentally, Malcolm Nance was terrific on Stephanie Miller this week, but the sound quality of the show was terrible that day.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 9, 2017 12:49 AM
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phx8

“I don’t even really care. Corrupt politicians are the least of our problems.”

Actually they are the problem.

Posted by: dbs at October 9, 2017 6:15 AM
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Everything Oh and ph are saying is hypothetical and based upon fake news. Why even get into the ridiculous conversation with them. Ph talks about Corker like he was the long lost brother of Feinstein. Under different circumstances Corker would be the lowest piece of crap in Washington. Corker is against Trump because he’s not running again. And he’s not running again because he would get beat. Simple as that. If I were an establishment republican and I had Trump rooting against me, I would bail out too.

Posted by: Blaine at October 9, 2017 9:09 AM
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phx8 and ohrealy should preface all their comments with “I wish…”, maybe click their heels together while they’re typing.

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 9, 2017 9:33 AM
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It’s the money that makes this a corrupt government.

Weary using your logic it is the gun that kills not the person.

Actually they are the problem.

It just seems with Trump in office, even with the corruption coming from the Russian influence, the businessman coming to drain the swamp (imagine falling for that old line)is a smaller problem than the incompetence Trump brings to the table. He has earned the title “moron” from his own Secretary of State in foreign affairs. His tax plan is a scam that will pass our generations debt down the road.His healthcare reform plan should be called an “improve the profits of the insurance companies” plan. His infrastructure plan consists of a wall on the southern border! I mean so far Trumps only success is in making GWB look intelligent.


Yet the Trumpsters still insist, with every illogical means at their disposal that Trump is up to something good, or it is the money, or the establishment not Trump. What will it take guys for you to realize you have been conned by the reality show buffoon? We need to start having this conversation, set some bottom limit to this administrations level of incompetence. It is up to conservatives to do this, to get off the kool aid, remove the rose colored glasses and be a bit more truthful with yourselves.

Tell you what, lets look at where we are today. Because if you are conservative these are the glory days. You guys control the SCOTUS, the Administration and the Congress at the federal level. Your team holds the vast majority of state governors and legislatures. Yet the debt ceiling continues to go up and nothing improves.

Everything Oh and ph are saying is hypothetical and based upon fake news.

I think it is because you morons actually believe the lies. And the logic, such as it is, If we don’t have any government then we won’t have a corrupt government! Because it works so well….where…Russia?

FFS man what does it take for you guys to grasp the reality of what you have done? Do you really want war with Iran and North Korea? Do you really want to get rid of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid? Do you really want privatized roads and transportation? Do you really think a wall on the southern border will solve the immigration problem?

Posted by: j2t2 at October 9, 2017 11:02 AM
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J2; war with Iran and NK, get rid of SS, Medicare and Medicaid, privatize roads and transportation…..what are you talking about. Where do you get this stuff? Beam me up j2t2. I haven’t even heard this stuff on the fake news. This must be some Area 51 stuff.

Posted by: Blaine at October 9, 2017 2:39 PM
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j2t2 thinks conservatives have been conned by a celebrity buffoon. What does he call marching in lock step with the Democratic party and it’s (Guam might tip over, pass it before we read it, the war is lost, acting stupidly) buffoons?

Posted by: Weary Willie at October 9, 2017 2:47 PM
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WW, how can the left talk about Trump or his policies; when they have the most ignorant people running their party. The best is believing Guam could tip over. But just look at Hillary who said, “just think how many more people could have been shot if the shooter had had a silencer”, or the ignorant comments of Maxine Waters, Elijah Cummings, or Nancy Pelosi. Some of these politicians on the left are an embarrassment. It’s no wonder the leftist cities and states are going belly up. That squirrel governor Jerry Brown in California just signed a state law declaring them a sanctuary state, against federal law and then had the nerve to ask for taxpayers money after declaring California a disaster area due to fires. I wouldn’t give them a penny.

Posted by: Blaine at October 9, 2017 4:57 PM
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“Yet the debt ceiling continues to go up and nothing improves.”

Many thanks to j2t2 for the best “laugh-of-the-day.”

We all know how hard the Democrats in congress are working to reduce spending to avoid more debt.

phx8 operates as usual. He farts, takes a good whiff, and goes into hallucinatory verbiage; no facts required.

He has bypassed linking to stories as who can link to Liberal “fairy dust”.

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 9, 2017 5:27 PM
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“Supply and demand can be artificially manipulated. For example, ownership can suppress wages by a variety of means…”

Many thanks to phx8 for his ideas based upon nothing but supposition and the usual Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/ Communist drivel.

phx8 mentions unions being necessary for good wages. If true, why have they declined so far?

Do we all remember the “good ole days” when the Teamsters or some other union could; and did; hold the nation hostage until their demands were met? How about the air traffic controllers union? Did you support their boycott? How about powerful teachers unions keeping your kids hostage or the Garbage workers striking and not giving a damn about sanitary conditions.

Union abuse, union thuggery, union corruption and union theft of members money all contributed to their downfall.

I asked phx8 a question about the presence of “illegal” workers affecting wages.

Who could possibly have guessed that my question would be ignored?

Posted by: Royal Flush at October 9, 2017 5:58 PM
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I think it is because you morons actually believe the lies…FFS man what does it take for you guys to grasp the reality of what you have done? Posted by: j2t2 at October 9, 2017 11:02 AM

They don’t even know what their opinions are until they are told, so just go ahead and tell them. All they do is post to contradict, until they find out what their authorized news sources have to say. Russia’s bad. Russia’s bad. Russia’s bad. Screeech! Russia’s good. Russia’s good. Russia’s good.

Posted by: ohrealy at October 9, 2017 8:14 PM
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j2t2

Trump isn’t the problem. The establishment Reps and Dems are. Your solution is to continue growing gov’t and pushing the country left, so I can see why you would attack anyone that threatens the further encroachment of big gov’t socialism.

Posted by: dbs at October 10, 2017 10:54 AM
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