Does America Have Cancer? Shapiro's Deadly Metaphor

Ben Shapiro says America has cancer. The antifa left and the alt-right are eating away at the body of mainstream politics and creating a growing, deadly tumor that will presumably, to follow Shapiro’s metaphor, devour the middle ground and kill off democracy in America. One riot at a time. It’s a compelling argument, but as dangerous as the cancer he is warning us all about.

Consider this from his piece in National Review:

... both movements had been steadily shrinking until the last few years. Now they're growing. And they're largely growing in opposition to one another. In fact, the growth of each side reinforces the growth of the other. The mainstream Left, convinced that the enemies of the social-justice warriors are all alt-right Nazi's, winks and nods at left-wing violence; the right convinced that its SW enemies are focused on racial polarization, embraces the alt-right as a form of resistance. Antifa becomes merely a radical adjunct to traditional Democratic-Party politics; the alt-right becomes merely a useful tool for scurrilous Republican politicians and media figures.

He blames: political polarization, media malfeasance, and political convenience. Obama played to his SJW base and now Trump plays to his alt-right base. And now we have this cancer that is growing, according to Shapiro.

But there's a real danger to using - and presumably acting on - this metaphor of the body politic in the U.S. and it has to do with America's southern neighbors in South America a generation or two ago.

In countries like Chile and Argentina in the 70's it was common to hear the same metaphor of a cancer acting on a diseased society that would perish unless a tough, clear-eyed surgeon took a scalpel to the problem. The medical terminology of surgery permeated much of the official pronouncements in that part of Latin America. Both in economic terms and in cultural and political terms as well.

And surgery was indeed carried out, to the tune of thousands of tortured and murdered opposition figures, activists, and yes, more than one or two violent radicals who kidnapped, robbed and bombed en route to establishing what they hoped would be a socialist paradise.

To be clear, America is nowhere near in a state of economic and political chaos and division that those countries had submereged into by the early 70's. But when you call a fringe movement a growing cancer, you are inviting - or demanding - drastic action to excise the tumor. Shapiro leaves his warning on a metaphorical level, but the uncomfortable question remains.

How exactly does Ben Shapiro propose America or America's federal, state, and local governments and security forces "excise" this cancer? He's taking a very different road than say his colleague Kevin Williamson - who can be as obnoxious (if always well informed) as the best of polemicists - but who instead suggests ridiculing the tiki-torch crowd.

These are troubled times, but metaphors in political speech can prove deadly weapons. Shapiro should be careful that he's not consumed by precisely what he is warning us all against. Yes, members of Reagan's administration were involved in some of what happened in Latin America and were willing to engage with some very very brutal regimes to combat what they saw - rightly or wrongly - as the possibility of a largely communist continent emerging.

Does Shapiro really think things are that bad North of the Rio Grande? And what is he willing to condone?

Posted by Keeley at August 18, 2017 1:42 PM
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Typical Rightwing propaganda…

White Supremacists = People who fight White Supremacists


Posted by: henryjones000 at August 18, 2017 7:42 PM
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“Typical Rightwing propaganda…

White Supremacists = People who fight White Supremacists

So you see… BOTH SIDES ARE BAD!”

Actually BLM, and antifa are also violent hate groups. Trying to paint them as groups fighting for equality, and good is and always will be complete bulls#!t. They’re anti american socialists looking to create chaos, in order to implement socialism. They are also an enemy of this country.

Posted by: dbs at August 20, 2017 2:09 PM
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Just to be clear, BLM and the antifa movement are very different. BLM campaigns against violence and racism. They do not have an economic agenda and they are as American as American can be, for they campaign and demonstrate for justice and equal rights before the law.

The antifa movement is a small movement and too disorganized to be easily summarized. Their aims can include destruction of property and violence. They are supposedly opposed to fascism, but this catch-all can include everything from capitalism to Neo-Nazis.

The problem for Neo-Nazis, the Klan, white supremacists, and white nationalists, is that they perceive expanding rights for blacks, women, and other minorities as coming at the expense of whites. The response can range anywhere from suppressing the vote, to promoting mass incarceration using minimum sentencing, to chanting “Jews will not replace us” in torchlight parades around statues of Robert E. Lee.

Conservatives have played to this crowd for a long time in subtle ways in order to promote the Southern Strategy. With Trump, the appeals have become more overt; in a nutshell, Trump is mainstreaming hate. Some conservatives, such as Romney, McCain, and other Senators, as well as many Republican governors and a few talk show hosts, are opposing this. However, many others, such as Limbaugh, Hannity, Sessions, and more, are embracing the mainstreaming of hate.

And now we get to see what Americans are made of. How should good Americans respond to the Trump supporters?

Posted by: phx8 at August 20, 2017 5:14 PM
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phx8, quit with the partisian BULLS**T, when it’s the left burning buildings and property and destroying things it is good but when the right has a protest it’s bad. They are all hate groups phx8 no matter what side they are on or what they call themselves. Some of the stuff I have heard coming out of the MSM and the left wing lunatics lately has been beyond STUPID!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at August 20, 2017 5:35 PM
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Your calling BLM a hate group says a lot more about you than it does about that organization. BLM does not condone violence or the destruction of property. It seeks justice and human rights, not the promotion of hate.

Anarchists are another kettle of fish. Those are the ones who show up at protests dressed in black and wearing masks. It is not even a matter of hate. They have every intention of rioting and encouraging violence because they want to bring the system down.

Would the Germans of the 1930’s been right or wrong to violently oppose the rise of the Nazis? Remember, the Nazis did not instantly become a party with millions of people in it. They started small.

We now have a president who has openly promoted racism and bigotry. Do you need quotes? Do you need reminders of the Birther movement, or Trump still insisting on the guilt five black men for rape long after they were proven innocent? Do you need to review Trump’s retweets from Neo-Nazi sites?

Personally, I am opposed to violence. I think we can still solve the problem coming from the alt-right/Neo-Nazis/Klan/white nationalists through our political system. But it will not be easy because conservatives provided the far right a running start the Nazis of the 1930’s never had, and now we have a guy at the top mainstreaming hate.

Posted by: phx8 at August 20, 2017 6:33 PM
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How should good Americans respond to the Trump supporters?
Posted by: phx8 at August 20, 2017 5:14 PM

Good Americans should recognize the racist history of the Democrat Party and demand that it be disbanded with all its KKK members, civil rights deniers, and racists monuments, statues, etc placed in museums.

We wonder how phx8 gets his uninformed view of Limbaugh and Hannity. Rush is in his 30th year in radio with tens of millions of regular listeners.

The “Movement for Black Lives” states their grievances. I can identify some of their problems as a direct result of Democrat leadership at the national level. Others are pure nonsense.

“Neither our grievances nor our solutions are limited to the police killing of our people. State violence takes many forms – it includes the systemic underinvestment in our communities, the caging of our people, predatory state and corporate practices targeting our neighborhoods, government policies that result in the poisoning of our water and the theft of our land, failing schools that criminalize rather than educate our children, economic practices that extract our labor, and wars on our Trans and Queer family that deny them their humanity.”

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 20, 2017 6:48 PM
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Here is another prime example of the stinking thinking of those wishing to play the “race” card to achieve goals that are untenable by legitimate means.

Kaepernick Crowd Calls For NFL Boycott Over QB’s Absence from League

“Kaepernick supporters have even issued a deadline and an ultimatum for the league, stating that they will gather at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia to effectively shut down “football in the state of Georgia” if their beloved player isn’t signed by 5pm on September 17th.

Even though Kaepernick is without a contract due to his professional inability to compete in the NFL, these numbskulls believe that he should be granted a contract anyway.”

In some ways Kaepernich and his supporters remind me of my Liberal Pals on WB. What their party can’t win at the ballot box, they hope to achieve by misdirection, mendacity, threats and extortion.

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 20, 2017 7:11 PM
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Phx8,Your so full of crap. Where did the saying ” what do we want, dead cops, when do we want them now” come from? Sure didn’t come from a white organization. BLM are thugs just like the rest.

Posted by: Richard Kapitan at August 20, 2017 7:17 PM
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Jarrod Kuhn was identified as a “nazi” after an anti-fascist group posted 250 fliers around the Honeoye Falls area of New York in the aftermath of the Virginia bloodshed that left three people dead.

The flier claimed Mr Kuhn is a “leading figure with the Daily Stormer, an avowedly neo-Nazi website around which local groups have been organizing to promote anti-Semitism, white supremacy and violence against LGBTQ communities,” according to the Livingston County news.

Mr Kuhn confirmed he attended the Charlottesville rally but strongly denied being a “neo-nazi”, claiming it was a “crazy assertion”.

“I’m not a neo-Nazi. I don’t belong to a German workers’ party from 1933,” he told the paper. “… I’m a moderate Republican.”

The Independent

Posted by: ohrealy at August 21, 2017 2:32 PM
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I would encourage WB participants NOT to click on the americasfreedomfighters link. If you really want to consider clicking on it, do some research first. It is a conspiracy theory web site which included this headline from last year: “Obama Allows Satanic Ceremony at State Capitol.” I did click on it, and at first I thought it was a Neo-Nazi site, but it appears to be more of a garden variety hair-on-fire conspiracy theory site that does not make much of an effort to even try to produce plausible stories.

Posted by: phx8 at August 22, 2017 10:28 AM
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Eeeeeverything is “neo-nazi” to you guys nowadays. Haircuts, horses, Columbus, peace monuments, Indian Americans, free speech supporters.

Posted by: kctim at August 22, 2017 11:43 AM
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Everything? I don’t know about that. But we are definitely seeing some Neo-Nazi/Klan/white supremacist/nationalist vocabulary and talking points creeping into the national discussion. We saw an interesting example in just the past week. The Daily Stormer, the Neo-Nazi site, invented a talking point that if we took down statures of Robert E. Lee, then where would it end? Washington & Jefferson were slave owners. Would we take down their statues too?

This was literally a Neo-Nazi talking point. Trump repeated it. The Daily Stormer was ecstatic. We saw that same talking point repeated on WB.

Is it everywhere? Of course not. But we are not the Germans of the 1930’s. Good Americans will not stand idly by while white nationalism spreads. Perhaps white nationalism starts small, but it has a president to champion the cause. Don’t take those people for granted.

Posted by: phx8 at August 22, 2017 11:58 AM
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Sigh. You needing it to be some kind of neo-nazi talking point doesn’t make it so.
The ridiculous social justice ‘warriors’ have been trying to get rid of those statues for a while now, and questions of erasing history, destroying heritage, and where will it all end, have been around just as long.
Add that to the fact that leftists are now talking about destroying Mount Rushmore, defunding the Jefferson Memorial, and removing statues of George Washington, and it looks like a pretty legit question to be asked.

“Good Americans will not stand idly by while white nationalism spreads.”

The extremely left wing SPLC shows that there are 193 black separatist groups and 100 white nationalist groups, in the US.

Maybe one day you will be able to provide some actual proof that Trump is championing the cause of white supremacy. Not biased opinions or his support of positions that even real democrats once supported, but actual proof.

Until then, all you are doing is intentionally lying and dividing the people by slopping about fearful propaganda for votes.

Posted by: kctim at August 22, 2017 1:06 PM
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Thanks for unintentionally proving my point. Social Justice Warrior. Nice example of how top-of-mind awareness works, and how propaganda succeeds.

How will leftists “defund” the Jefferson Memorial?

I did find one person named Angela Rye who wanted to take down statues of George Washington. She is black, and she pointed out Washington, as a slave owner, was NOT protecting HER freedom. She has a point. In his defense, Washington did free his slaves upon his death.

Jefferson was a moral horror show when at home at Monticello. Contemporary visitors were shocked to see so many red-headed black children there. While it was tacitly understood that white masters could force their slaves to have s*x and bear children, it was the exception, not the rule. Washington did not. Jefferson, that great theoretician on human liberty, most certainly did. His wife passed away in 1782, so Jefferson used a young maid, Sally Hemings, and had six children by his slave, something we know from DNA evidence. Jefferson was also known for breaking up families when selling slaves, a practice some other slave owners did not do, including Washington. And, Jefferson was known for working his slaves to death. Washington generally treated his slaves with compassion, and even worked with them in the field mending fences.

So it is worth remembering that the Founders did a great thing when they wrote the Constitution and fought for freedom. But they did some pretty awful things too. And a black person who does not appreciate being considered property by some of the Founding Fathers does have an undeniable point.

(Note: many of the Founding Fathers from the northern states strongly opposed slavery, including the Adams, and Hamilton).

Posted by: phx8 at August 22, 2017 3:59 PM
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The history of slavery is just that; a history.

We live under the government designed by our Founders with the approval of all thirteen colonies and adopted by every single state added to the Union since then.

We Americans honor our Founding, and Founders for what they created for us; a Democratic Republic.

I do not wish to change or erase our history. We are today a result of that history. I believe we are today a great nation with tolerance for all our citizens.

We have only amended our Constitution twenty-seven times which attests to its inspired creation.

There is no other governing document that I would care to live under. One can love or hate the Founders; but it is a jaundiced individual who hates what they created.

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 22, 2017 4:27 PM
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The term ‘social justice warrior’ has been around a long time and was even embraced by activists. Then they got stupid and started complaining about manspreading, eye-rape and safe spaces etc… so Americans started mocking them and now ‘social justice warrior’ means nothing more than a freaking nut ball.
It is not proof of “some Neo-Nazi/Klan/white supremacist/nationalist vocabulary and talking points creeping into the national discussion.”

You can talk with the Rev al and Bishop James Dukes about defunding the Jefferson Memorial getting rid of Washington.

Of course it is worth remembering that the Founders did a great thing when they wrote the Constitution and fought for freedom, but that has absolutely nothing to do with what we were discussing.
You stated that the simple question of “where will it end” was some kind of neo-nazi talking-point and you were wrong. Just as you were with the drivel about how white nationalism is spreading.

As you seem to no longer wish to discuss those matters, let me ask you something about tonight: What’s going to happen if violent left-wing groups like antifa and blm decide to attack ordinary Americans and Veterans groups tonight?

Posted by: kctim at August 22, 2017 4:38 PM
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“The past is never dead. It’s not even past.”
William Faulkner

We see the repercussions of slavery, bigotry, and racism even today, most of all in economic inequality. We see the same resentment of immigrants from a century ago that we see today; only the nation of origin has changed. There have been periods of resentment aimed towards the Chinese, Jews, Mexicans, Irish, Italians, Germans, Japanese, Muslims, you name the nation or religion, it has been a target.

Today, despite full employment, we see the Mexicans suffer the brunt of it, along with the Muslims. We see it in policies intended to prevent economic inequality & opportunity from being addressed, whether it is affirmative action, immigration policy & accepting refugees, and more.

Personally, I think the US can do considerably better. Our democracy failed, and failed badly, when it elected Donald Trump. So now the country is being put to the test, and we will get to see what Americans are made of.

Posted by: phx8 at August 22, 2017 4:45 PM
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“What’s going to happen if violent left-wing groups like antifa and blm decide to attack ordinary Americans and Veterans groups tonight?”

The mayor of Phoenix asked Trump not to do a rally in AZ. The running joke in that state plays on the cliché about southwestern heat: “there is a lot of hate in Arizona, but it is a dry hate.”

It is unlikely BLM would mount much of a protest in Phoenix, but anti-fascists could well protest a Trump version of a Nuremburg Rally.

Think Trump will pardon, or offer to pardon, Arpaio? When I lived in AZ in the 90’s I talked with the Mexicans & Central Americans. They were scared witless of the police because they would beat them senseless, and no one could do anything about it. Trump supporting Arpaio could start a riot, no doubt.

Posted by: phx8 at August 22, 2017 4:52 PM
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“We see the repercussions of slavery, bigotry, and racism even today, most of all in economic inequality.”

Our Pal phx8 is extremely myopic if he truly believes that comment.

There are today, in the United States, tens of millions of Black people, and people from nearly every nation on the planet, who have attained a very good life here in this blessed land.

These Americans studied, worked, and followed the law. They are tremendously successful and for phx8 to tell us that we have “economic inequality” is a damnable lie. Those who take to the streets to make demands upon working and successful
Americans should instead, get a job or get an education.

Regarding slavery phx8…

“The number of black Africans enslaved by Muhammad’s followers over the years is likely to be 25 million or more. The Muslim attacks on African villages for the purpose of taking slaves have caused the deaths of at least 120 million black Africans over time! (Some estimates put the number twice as high.) And Muslims are still enslaving people to this day, a major flashpoint being Sudan, where the Muslim Janjaweed are committing government-sanctioned genocide against the Christians there, with the aid of Omar Al-Bashir, the Sudanese president; many who have not been killed have been enslaved.”

Is phx8 suggesting that followers of Muhammad, and their institution, should be banned, and their followers shunned or imprisoned?

Why would any Black person become a Muslim if one of the main tenets of their religion is acceptance of slavery?

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 22, 2017 4:58 PM
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“They were scared witless of the police because they would beat them senseless…”

More anecdotal bullshit from phx8. Just ignore this guy on any issues related to race.

I hope that President Trump pardons Arpaio.

Frankly phx8, I don’t give a shit how many illegals protest.

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 22, 2017 5:05 PM
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phx8 presented a one-sided picture of Thomas Jefferson. Here’s some more information he didn’t share.

“In his writings on American grievances justifying the Revolution, he attacked the British for sponsoring the slave trade to the colonies. In 1778, with Jefferson’s leadership, slave importation was banned in Virginia, one of the first jurisdictions worldwide to do so. Jefferson was a lifelong advocate of ending the trade and as president led the effort to criminalize the international slave trade that passed Congress and he signed in 1808, a year after the British did the same thing.[6]

In 1779, as a practical solution to end slavery, Jefferson supported gradual emancipation, training, and colonization of African-American slaves rather than unconditional manumission, believing that releasing unprepared slaves with no place to go and no means to support themselves would only bring them misfortune. In 1784, Jefferson proposed federal legislation banning slavery in the New Territories of the North and South after 1800, which failed to pass Congress by one vote.”

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 22, 2017 5:14 PM
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You are the one myopic about slavery and its consequences for the US. Who cares what happened in Africa? We are talking about our history.

The truth of the matter is very, very simple. The southern states seceded from the union to preserve their right to own human beings and to economically benefit from their labor.

By the way, it wasn’t just a few plantation owners who benefited from slavery. Up to 49% of the population of southern states owned slaves. See Census of 1860.

If history is the issue, then put a few slave auction blocks in the town squares of southern cities. There was nothing noble about fighting for the right to own slaves.

Posted by: Rich at August 22, 2017 7:27 PM
Comment #419616

What is your point Rich?

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 22, 2017 7:30 PM
Comment #419622

Nuremburg rally?
IF you ever want to have an actual discussion on race, the protesters, what Trump has actually done, or he11, anything dealing with reality, please let me know.

Posted by: kctim at August 23, 2017 8:15 AM
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it wasn’t just a few plantation owners who benefited from slavery. Up to 49% of the population of southern states owned slaves. Posted by: Rich at August 22, 2017 7:27 PM

Rich, the average number of slaves per slave-owner was very small. The large plantations could be seen as flesh banks and breeding centers for an agricultural product that they intended to sell on, without regard to any connection of one human being towards anyone else. This had been made very clear many years before the civil war. So, Mike Pence, most probably the next POTUS, wants to put up more statues to these “historical” flesh bankers.

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