Your Voter Registration Info Is Being Fondled

When you register and vote that information becomes publicly available. Or at least it gets shared, whether you know that or not. Not who you voted for obviously, that is your private matter, guaranteed by the state. But your name and address and perhaps even your email is information that State Governments regularly offer for sale.

Oh.

So the blustering outrage at The Presidential Advisory Commission on Electoral Integrity's request to State Governments to share their voter lists is a little hypocritical. But if you read most of mainstream media you wouldn't know that. From the Washington Post's Daily 202 where GOP State AG's apparently show their true federalist mettle by telling the commission to get stuffed, to The Hill breathlessly detailing an obscure 1980 regulation that the Commission's request may have violated, it's all about the uprising by state governments against The Presidential Advisory Commission. Many of them GOP.

But Byron York goes around all the smoke and haze and gets at a few facts in his usual professional manner in an insightful article in The Washington Examiner. He quotes Hans von Spakovsky, former Federal Election Commission member in Bush 43's administration:

The commission is asking for voter registration and other information which is publicly available. Not only do all political parties buy this information routinely from secretaries of states, so do candidates. __ For example, the article lists the services that Virginia's Department of Elections will sell under "client services":

  • Registered Voter List
  • Newly Registered Voter List
  • Full name
  • Residence address
  • Mailing address
  • Gender
  • Date of Birth
  • Registration Date
  • Date last registration form received
  • Registration status
  • Locality
  • Precinct
  • Voting Districts
  • Voter identification number

My apologies. Your email is not included, at least not in Virginia. And their webpage does not do it in a bulleted list. Needless to say your voting information is bought, sold, packaged, mined, analyzed, categorized, collated, related, (apologies to Al Gore) and used to infiltrate the opponents mindset. Your voter registration info is part of a deep data set that anxious wonks and consultants are constantly fondling. And there's often cash involved. Nate Silver might be thinking about your very voting district even as you read this.

So while it actually is kinda healthy for state AG's to tell a federal commission to p' off, there's more than a touch of hypocrisy here amid all the theatrical outrage. And yes, the commission itself may be fishing expedition, but why not show the country that your state has a rock solid electoral structure where illegals, and those who have ceased to be actually don't vote?

Posted by Keeley at July 8, 2017 12:26 PM
Comments
Comment #417875

I believe the GOP and Dem organizations have taken advantage of the voting booth wherever and whenever they’ve had the opportunity.

I suspect an investigation will find a mixed bag. Voter fraud will be found where opportunities were present.

I’m for using the pencil and paper method as it represents the most secure voting method, least susceptible to fraud.

I do hope there is a thorough investigation as inquiring minds would like to know, and so on - - -

Posted by: Roy Ellis at July 7, 2017 1:45 PM
Comment #417883

I only have an iPhone, no land line; so I decline any call I get with no ID, then I block the number if they don’t leave a message. I delete all email that I don’t recognize. So I don’t really care what is done with my info. I get called for jury duty every couple of years and when I tell them of my biblical religious beliefs, my support of capital punishment, and my belief in the rule of law and complete support of the police, I normally never hear back from anyone. I do support some politicians, but I support no political party. So they are wasting their time contacting me.

Posted by: Blaine at July 7, 2017 4:53 PM
Comment #417884

Hey Blaine, do you live on Thoreau’s “Walden Pond”.

Actually, I have greatly “simplified” my life as well.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 7, 2017 4:57 PM
Comment #417885

Yes, quite simple. I have also cut out all tv news except for F&F in the am, and Cavuto in the afternoon. If you cut out the media hype, life is much more pleasant. Can you imagine the lefties who listen to 24/7 MSNBC or fake news CNN? No wonder they’re loosing it.

Posted by: Blaine at July 7, 2017 5:13 PM
Comment #417893

Keeley would have us believe the request, by the Trump/Kobach voter suppression witch hunt, asking states to provide information is just stuff already out there for all to see. But the requests ask for

party affiliation
voting history
partial SSN

I don’t see those on his list? Why is that? According to Common Cause ““It asks every state to provide the full name, address, party affiliation, voting history, and partial social security number of every registered voter in the country. No candidate, party, or other member of the public is ever granted access to the data set requested.”

The foolish rationalization York uses to convince people this request is benign, well lets just say it takes a conservative to believe it. Such a lack of integrity these people have.


Why would Keeley call the dissent blustering outrage when we all know the intent is to suppress the vote. All of us should be outraged over this witch hunt. The hypocrisy is in the name, IMHO, “The Presidential Advisory Commission on Electoral Integrity’s”. There is no integrity there is only witch hunt.

Kobach has been trying for years in Kansas to prove all those million of illegals voted in elections but has yet to prove much of anything. What does it take for even the lamest of conservatives to realize what is going on here?


So conservatives riddle me this, if the information Kobach wants is so readily available why does he need to request it from each of the states?

Posted by: j2t2 at July 7, 2017 9:09 PM
Comment #417901

j2, can you give us some words on exactly how investigating the voter rolls would “suppress the vote”. I’ve heard that term a lot but am not aware of just how checking out the voter rolls would work to suppress the vote.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at July 8, 2017 12:34 PM
Comment #417904

There’s no way the federal government can guarantee an accurate vote count. It’s not in their purview to do so. Voting is a state matter. If you really want an accurate vote, repeal the 17th amendment so voting counts will be returned to the districts instead of the entire state.


Posted by: Weary Willie at July 8, 2017 4:42 PM
Comment #417905

WW,
On that we agree- the federal government has no business interfering with the states on voting. Having said that, the states would be wise to adopt vote-by-mail, to make sure there is a paper trail in 2018 & 2020. We can count on coming under cyber attack again. That worked way too well for the Russians, and they will not suffer any serious consequences for it. We would be foolish not to act.

Roy,
Someone like Kris Kobach suppresses the vote by taking it away from people who should be able to vote in the first place. For every one illegal vote found there are 200 false positives, yet Kobach would take away the right to vote from those 200 people. It ends up amounting to hundreds of thousands of people, often with names like “Hernandez,” “Garcia,” and so on.

Scroll down to the section on purging the voter rolls:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States

Posted by: phx8 at July 8, 2017 4:55 PM
Comment #417908

j2, can you give us some words on exactly how investigating the voter rolls would “suppress the vote”. I’ve heard that term a lot but am not aware of just how checking out the voter rolls would work to suppress the vote.

Sure Roy, conservatives have mounted an all out offensive to stop legitimate people from voting. They use many code words and spread many lies to convince you and other loyal followers of the movement they are “just checking out the voter rolls” as you say but in the process they purge the rolls of mostly those who are eligible to vote. They spread the lie that voter fraud is rampant but after years they show no proof of any wide spread voter fraud.

Trump has stooped to this type of conservatism when he appointed Kobach, Spakovsky and Blackwell to head this witch hunt they call a commission.


https://www.brennancenter.org/deficiencies-trumps-fraud-commission

http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/voter-suppression-how-bad-pretty-bad

Posted by: j2t2 at July 8, 2017 6:37 PM
Comment #417909

j2t2, you are a lunatic. Your second link is dated 2014. Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Obama president in 2014? Your first link uses every leftist news source in the country as evidence. Including losers like Jessie Jackson. The rest of their source evidence is editorials and op eds. Since when do editorials and op eds count as evidence. In my state, I’m required to show a photo id before I can vote. I’m sure you consider that a violation of voting rights.

Posted by: Blaine at July 8, 2017 10:06 PM
Comment #417917

Blaine still trolling I see. You act as if the whole voter suppression thing has just started, it hasn’t we have discussed it here on WB for years now. Yes when Obama was in office we didn’t have have a federal commission to suppress the vote. However at the state level repubs were going full bore.

In 2010 conservatives in state legislatures started passing ALEC written laws with the intent of suppressing the vote. They used the “millions of illegals voting” lie to do so. Some have been tied up in court others haven’t. Yet still nothing substantial on the real fraud issues not to mention the lie repeated so often you believe it to be true- “illegals voting”.

Conservatives should be worried that one side is now initiating a presidential commission at the federal level to collect state voting records on all of us.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 9, 2017 6:02 PM
Comment #417918

In the meantime, democrats continue to loose hundreds of elected positions every election cycle. Perhaps instead of fighting for the wrong fake causes, the democrats should be coming up with a platform that appeals to the American people. What exactly do the democrats stand for? The big three; gay marriage, global warming, and gun control don’t seem to be getting you anywhere.

Posted by: Blaine at July 9, 2017 6:50 PM
Comment #417919

Rather than complaining about voting laws, Democrats time would be better spent helping their constituents comply with the laws?

Compliance with existing law seems to be a frequent and serious problem for the Left. They always seem to be protesting some law or other and often in a very violent manner.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 9, 2017 7:14 PM
Comment #417920

Laws are for the common people, not for the elite. The left exhibits pseudo outrage when you accuse them of being anti-constitutional, they exhibit outrage when they are called anti-police; but isn’t it so? They have no use for the constitution, the police, the military, or anything else that supports a lawful society. The left hates everything this nation was founded upon. The left is represented by the protesters in America as well as Munich. Spoiled little rich kids that never had to work, or spoiled dregs on society who never had to produce anything. Law breakers.

Posted by: Blaine at July 9, 2017 11:40 PM
Comment #417932

Wow are you two clowns really trying to hide behind some law and order argument to protect the voter suppression laws enacted by conservative legislatures around the country? Zeig Heil to both of you for this authoritarian bit of nonsense.

While it is nice to see you haven’t got around to the “it isn’t a constitutional right” and/or “the constitution didn’t allow women or blacks to vote” silliness, It is sad you would think in this case Trump and his voter suppression Nazi’s haven’t over stepped its authority with an executive order. Just think if it was Obama that used an executive order to force the states to comply to the whims of a commission whose intent is to suppress the people of this country.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 10, 2017 8:56 AM
Comment #417934

So Royal and Blaine does the idea of joining forces with Russia, as Trump suggests, on cyber security sound like a good idea to you? Certainly that would help protect the vote. I mean partnering with Russia… what could go wrong?

Are you sure when Trump said he was gonna drain the swamp he didn’t mean refilling the swamp with goose stepping oligarchs?

Posted by: j2t2 at July 10, 2017 9:19 AM
Comment #417935

So conservatives step up to the plate, admit the plan is to suppress the vote, accept responsibility or hide and deny seems to be the choices you guys face. Of course you can blame the MSM , fake news, alternative facts, Zeig Heil to that nonsense I say, or you can step up and tell the world your plan to win elections.

I know I know it wasn’t on Caputo or Faux and friends so you can’t believe it is real. Well would you believe it if you saw it yourself

Posted by: j2t2 at July 10, 2017 11:17 AM
Comment #417937

So the traitor in the White House wants to cooperate with the Russians on cyber security?

I think not.

So the traitor in the White House wants a list of all voters, including their last four & voting history?

I think not.

Sources- three “advisors” and two people knowledgeable about the meeting- are throwing Donald Trump Jr. under the bus. The White House story is changing almost by the hour. Poor Reince Preibus. They put him out there to lie about it, but they pulled the carpet out from under him in record time. So, it seems we have yet another meeting between the Trump campaign and the Russians. Donald Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner discussed collusion with a Russian lawyer. Trump was in Trump Tower at the time, where the meeting occurred, conducting a meeting on how to attack Hillary Clinton.

Have fun with that FBI interview, boys. And don’t do what Carter Page did. He has met with the FBI five times already, and he did it without a lawyer. Sheesh!

Anyone think Manafort is singing like a canary?

And if any of you are still supporters of the traitor in the White House, you might want to rethink that ASAP.

Posted by: phx8 at July 10, 2017 12:55 PM
Comment #417939

LYING TRAITORS MEET WITH RUSSIANS

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/nancy-pelosi-sergey-kislyak-meeting-235653

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2017 2:22 PM
Comment #417941

MCCASKILL GETS COZY WITH RUSSIANS

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/26/politics/mccaskill-russian-ambassador/index.html

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2017 2:29 PM
Comment #417942

DEMOCRATIC’S COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA DURING ELECTION

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4281760/Six-Democrats-met-Russian-Ambassador-past.html

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2017 2:31 PM
Comment #417944

Too late, WW.
Reince Preibus already tried to blame Democrats for the meeting between Trump Jr., Manafort, Kushner, and a Russian lawyer. Preibus said it was a “Democratic conspiracy.” It was a meeting to discuss adoption. Of course, no one believed that, because Campaign Manager Manafort was there.

Sadly, Trump Jr. cut Priebus off at the knees and confessed. He announced an acquaintance arranged the meeting because the Russian lawyer had damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

So shouting ‘What about Pelosi!’ or Obama or Clinton won’t work. Priebus tried to lie about Democrats and got totally destroyed on the public stage. Ouch.

And no, we will not put the Trump collusion behind us and “move forward” with the Russian relationship. No one is going to let Traitor Trump get away with it.

Posted by: phx8 at July 10, 2017 2:38 PM
Comment #417945

This must be the WhiteHouse all the Democratics are talking about.

Sheldon Whitehouse meets with Russian Ambassador
https://www.infowars.com/flashback-numerous-dems-obama-also-met-with-russian-ambassador/

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2017 2:41 PM
Comment #417946

I know. Democratics won’t stop beating this horse until they finally start a war with Russia. That’s the ultimate objective isn’t it, phx8?

I think it is. The Democratics won’t stop instigating a war until they finally get one.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2017 2:51 PM
Comment #417947

phx8, Both side met with the Russians, get over it, it wasn’t just Trump’s people. Your side is just as guilty. Get off the grocery store tabloids.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at July 10, 2017 2:52 PM
Comment #417948

WWII was such a boon for the Democratic party. They were made out to be heros, Roosevelt leading the way with Socialism. All spurred on by the U.S., the only intact economy in the world. All that wasted on vote buying programs that eventually enslaved us all.

That’s the plan, right? Destroy the world again so you have something to build up with more enslavement programs, right?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2017 2:56 PM
Comment #417949

For future reference- please do not post links to Infowars, Pamela Gellar, or Breitbart. I will not click on them.

Infowars pushed the story that the Sandy Hook massacre of school children was a hoax, and the parents were only pretending to grieve. In addition, Alex Jones has made paid appearances on the Russian propaganda outlet, RT.

Pamela Gellar is a notorious Islamaphobe. She pushes the idea that the US is threatened by the takeover of Sharia Law.

Shortly after the killer who liked to pose with the Stars and Bars murdered all those black people in a church, Breitbart ran an article calling for people to be proud of that flag. They have also been (presumably) unwitting outlets for Russian propaganda.

KAP,
No amount of ‘hey, look over there’ or whataboutism is going to make this story about Trump Jr. go away. Kushner & Trump Jr. tried to pretend they were not meeting with Russians. This is the third time a meeting by Kushner has been revealed.

What makes it especially interesting- I mean, besides taking that meeting in the first place, which was tantamount to treason- is that there is no way Kushner or Trump Jr. ‘advisors’ would reveal that meeting took place. I think it is coming from the direction of Manafort.

Well, we’re closing in on Traitor Trump.

And one more time.

No.

We will not team up with Russia on cybersecurity.

And no. Trump can NOT have a list of all voters and their voting history.

Posted by: phx8 at July 10, 2017 3:58 PM
Comment #417950

phx8, Your beating a de3ad horse with the cyber thing, Trump tweeted it will never happen. I don’t care if democrats want to keep a nothing burger of a story going because it just that much more people will go for an independent or republican. If you want to make yourself look stupid you can keep the story going to.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at July 10, 2017 4:55 PM
Comment #417953

And if any of you are still supporters of the traitor in the White House, you might want to rethink that ASAP.
Posted by: phx8 at July 10, 2017 12:55 PM

When can we expect the indictments?

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 10, 2017 5:25 PM
Comment #417955

RF,
“When can we expect the indictments?”

Great question. At this point the FBI is deferring to Special Counsel Mueller. He has a reputation for working fast; however, a scandal this broad, involving 15 prosecutors, could be expected to take a while. The Obstruction of Justice charge could be resolved quickly, but collusion and money laundering take longer, and most likely everything will be brought at the same time.

And Mueller does face a quandary. He needs to take down Traitor Trump first, not last, otherwise Traitor Trump will simply pardon the others and Mueller will be unable to do anything. If nothing connects Traitor Trump to collusion, money laundering, or obstruction, then the others will go down one at a time. Flynn already asked for amnesty, and he has disappeared from view. He also registered as a foreign agent, but because he waited two years, that late registration sets him up for 5 years in prison. Same with Manafort. He has also disappeared from view, and he also faces 5 years in prison for failing to register as a foreign agent. Manifort took very large amounts of money from a Putin ally, and he took at least one trip to a Cypriot bank known for money laundering, so I suspect he might face some serious charges. I think Manifort is singing like a canary.

Some of this we may never know. Investigations into money laundering, the mafia, and the Russian mob can involve secret grand juries issuing subpoenas we will never see.

Posted by: phx8 at July 10, 2017 6:16 PM
Comment #417956

What an orgy of speculation phx8. Did you have to change underwear after writing that?

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 10, 2017 6:23 PM
Comment #417957

Fact: The FBI is deferring to Mueller.
Fact: Mueller has a reputation for working fast.
Fact: There are 15 prosecutors. The linked article names them.

“But members of Congress and other lawyers involved in the probe described the main lines of inquiry as: Russian meddling in the presidential election; whether anyone inside the United States conspired to help; and whether any wrongdoing has been committed in the surprise firing of FBI Director James Comey, who said he believed he was let go to relieve pressure on the Russia probe.”

http://www.npr.org/2017/07/08/535813901/special-counsel-mueller-lets-his-actions-do-the-talking-15-hires-more-to-come

Fact: Because Obstruction- the firing of Comey- involves relatively few people, it can be finished relatively quickly.

Fact: Flynn has asked for amnesty
Fact: Flynn & Manafort have disappeared from view
Fact: Flynn and Manafort have registered as foreign agents
Fact: A foreign agent has 10 days to register. Flynn & Manafort failed to do so for @ two years.
Fact: Failure to register within 10 days can mean 5 years in prison or a fine.
Fact: Manafort was paid $17.1 million for his actions on behalf of the pro-Russian Ukrainian president between 2012 and 2014.
Fact: Manafort did money transfers from Russians via the Bank of Cyprus. He used 15 accounts and 10 companies.

Posted by: phx8 at July 10, 2017 7:17 PM
Comment #417958

FACT: No charges.
FACT: No indictments.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 10, 2017 7:26 PM
Comment #417959

Sorry phx8…but we all know where your “goat” is tied.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 10, 2017 7:27 PM
Comment #417960

We are constantly reminded by phx8; with his litany of unproven charges; of all the Trump people going to prison.

My turn to name names with no proven charges:

James Comey
Loretta Lynch
Eric Holder
Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 10, 2017 7:33 PM
Comment #417962

phx8, refrain from posting links to NPR, as I will not read them.

And, since linking to those sites you mentioned will get you to quit regurgitating the word Russia, (did you all notice he never mentioned Russia once when he was shooting messengers?) perhaps we all should link to infowars and Breitbart more often!

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2017 10:31 PM
Comment #417963

“Before arranging a meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Jr. was informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy, according to three people with knowledge of the email.”
NYT

It just keeps getting worse.

And Trump Jr. just can’t shut up. He tweeted:

“Obviously I’m the first person on a campaign to ever take a meeting to hear info about an opponent… went nowhere but had to listen.”

His lawyer will have to give him a little talk about laws and how it is a bad idea to publicly announce he is breaking them. Especially when it involves knowing in advance that he was going into a meeting because the Russian government wanted to help his father win the White House, and had some dirt.

By the way, the release of the hacked Russian info started shortly after that meeting.

Posted by: phx8 at July 10, 2017 10:40 PM
Comment #417964

Yawn

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 10, 2017 11:18 PM
Comment #417969

Only votes democrats are worried about being suppressed are the non citizen votes.

Posted by: dbs at July 11, 2017 5:24 AM
Comment #417978

Ph has mental problems. He asks conservatives to not us certain web links because the material is false and then he goes on to spew one fake claim after another. In my opinion, when you have a blog site down to a remaining two leftists trying to continue the argument (ph & j2); it shows a loss of facts on the side of the left. Except for the two remaining trolls, the rest of the left has realized all they are doing is driving the American people further away from the Democratic Party. Ph and j2 have become nothing more than a joke.

Posted by: Blaine at July 11, 2017 8:13 AM
Comment #417979

His arguments are dropping like flies. The problem is he doesn’t know it. He admittedly won’t read anything he disagrees with so he’s unable to get to the truth.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2017 9:31 AM
Comment #417980

There is an old saying, “garbage in, garbage out “. When the only thing you feed your brain is leftist garbage from the most liberal sites, then you can’t expect to learn anything. I have said before, ph and j2 are either paid trolls who have an agenda for sticking to just one or two talking points, or they are incapable of understanding logic. They are not the only ones; Maxine Waters is a perfect example. She has to be one of the most ignorant women in DC. It shows the intellect of her constituents who would keep electing her. Schumer and Harry Reid are another example; they flat out lie and then brag about their lies. To the left, the end justifies the means. Continue to say the say thing over and over and hope that eventually it becomes truth. We have been on the Trump/Russian collusion for almost 7 months and the whole story is based upon a hypothetical report. And I believe it was done to make Trumps presidency illegitimate #1, and to hide the involvement of the Obama/Clinton involvement in the same thing. The truth will eventually come out, but by then the left will have moved on to attacking someone else, and the Trump presidency will have been neutered. The problem is that despite the lefts and never Trumper republicans, Trump is still moving forward. He still ha not been able to put together his cabinet because of democrats blocking and republicans who have no balls. I believe it is slowly dawning on democrats that they are losing support. The MSM is setting the agenda for the democrat party and we can see how they are dropping in the polls, so why would the democrat party do any better?

Posted by: Blaine at July 11, 2017 10:20 AM
Comment #417981

It’s hard to believe they’ve stayed relevant for over two centuries. Considering how the media is being exposed as a propaganda arm of the Democratic party we can see why.

They’ve made their fortune selling ignorant people security and now that others are pointing out the flaws of their tactics they’re being exposed for the frauds they are.

What a different world we would have if the ideals of our founders had been adhered to instead of being corrupted by the hubris of a party that believes it knows best.

I, for one, am overjoyed I’ve lived to see all this unfold.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2017 10:53 AM
Comment #417983

Cognitive dissonance the stress relief mechanism used by conservatives to justify their defense of Trump and his cronies.

From wiki:
“The creation and establishment of psychological consistency allows the person afflicted with cognitive dissonance to lessen his or her mental stress by actions that reduce the magnitude of the dissonance, realised either by changing with, or by justifying against, or by being indifferent to the existential contradiction that is inducing the mental stress.[1] In practice, people reduce the magnitude of their cognitive dissonance in four ways:”

Change the behavior or the cognition (When the only thing you feed your brain is leftist garbage from the most liberal sites, then you can’t expect to learn anything.)
Justify the behavior or the cognition, by changing the conflicting cognition (” I have said before, ph and j2 are either paid trolls who have an agenda for sticking to just one or two talking points, or they are incapable of understanding logic.”)
Justify the behavior or the cognition by adding new cognitions (” The truth will eventually come out, but by then the left will have moved on to attacking someone else, and the Trump presidency will have been neutered.”)
Ignore or deny information that conflicts with existing beliefs (“The problem is that despite the lefts and never Trumper republicans, Trump is still moving forward. He still ha not been able to put together his cabinet because of democrats blocking and republicans who have no balls.”)

Time to stop lying Blaine. The stress has taken it’s toll on your mind. The fear is confusing your brain. The problem is Trump and his campaign staff and their “ends justify the means” mentality. How many lies before you stop believing?

Posted by: j2t2 at July 11, 2017 11:26 AM
Comment #417984

j2t2, wiki is not really a good link to base your evidence upon; considering any yahoo can get on there and write “facts”.

Secondly j2, I have absolutely no problem with my beliefs. I have facts and history to back me up. You on the other hand, trust in fantasy and make believe. Liberal fantasy land says, “we have lost 1200 political seats in the past 7 years, and we have lost 4 elections in which multi millions of liberal dollars were thrown away, but we are still winning”. You have liberal controlled states and cities, that are going bankrupt. And thanks to social media the rest of America is watching it happen. You can spin it anyway you want, but the results are the same…your side is losing.

Yes WW, the truth is being revealed; Margaret Sanger was a democrat racist who established planned parenthood for the purpose of eradicating the Negro race, the KKK was a democrat organization whose goal was to oppress blacks, Lyndon Johnson’s civil rights bill depended upon republicans to pass the bill because democrats voted against it, it was democrats who shuffled blacks into modern day slave ghettos and schools, and the list goes on. The reason we know the democrat party is losing is because they are pushing so hard for illegals as a new voting base.

My only concern is that republicans have followed for so many years, they don’t know how to exert themselves and take control.

Posted by: Blaine at July 11, 2017 12:05 PM
Comment #417987

““My son is a high-quality person and I applaud his transparency.”
Donald Trump on Donald Trump Jr.

Yeah. High quality. Except maybe the part about colluding with a foreign adversary in order to win an election. Other than that, high quality. A little treasonous, but high quality.

Nice transparency. He lied and lied until he could not longer get away with it. The incredible thing is that collusion should be very difficult to prove, yet these idiots put it in an e-mail! Well, that should keep Special Counsel Mueller busy.

How many times has Trump and his people lied? People are having fun putting together montages.

Trump Jr. was offered documents that “would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

Trump Jr. replied immediately: “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”

Kid- if a hostile foreign power offers you material to harm the election chances of an opponent, the correct response is to contact the FBI, NOT arrange a meeting.

Posted by: phx8 at July 11, 2017 3:59 PM
Comment #417988

The only mistake Don Jr did was to not delete all his emails; he could have then just said “Hillary did it”.

A week from now and the fake media (including those that worship at the altar of the fake media…you) will have moved on to another earth shattering Trump/Russian event.

Like everything else you bring up; this means nothing.

Posted by: Blaine at July 11, 2017 4:22 PM
Comment #417989
j2t2, wiki is not really a good link to base your evidence upon; considering any yahoo can get on there and write “facts”.

First you have contradicted the source not the facts Blaine, I know what a surprise huh? Secondly this is typical of you and other Trolls, it seems, as you criticize my source but fail in most comments to post a source as most of your stuff is biased opinion not facts. So before you call me out I suggest you get your ducks in a row if you want to get past your troll status. Blathering like an idiot doesn’t help your case Blaine.


You can spin it anyway you want, but the results are the same…your side is losing.

Yes Blaine liberals are losing, have been for years. To bad for you it isn’t due to policy. Repubs/conservatives have the upper hand in many ways, but the most important reason conservatives win so often is the framing of the argument and the bumpersticker ideology that wins the less informed voters to their side. The conservatives don’t have to bother with truth and integrity when it comes to their voters. The gullible believe anything they are told and the message is well coordinated and well funded.

Not to mention the efforts conservatives have put into gerrymandering and voter suppression that have ensured many seats in Congress for the conservatives. Give them credit for this the end justifies the means strategy.

When you add in the decades long bullying and lying by talk radio conservatives that have the attention of so many “small penis” types that feed their self images with the size of their gun and how they can blame the problems of the country on women and minorities it is amazing to me how liberals have any seats in any state.

Add in the dumbing down of the public education system over the years as conservatives have won seats on school boards and then messed up education, it all takes it’s toil.

Unfortunately the rise of the conservative movement has led to the all time low point that is the Trump presidency. Well maybe not yet but unless he starts showing he can do something but make an a** of himself on the international stage we sure are trending down. Putin made him look like a fool as did the G19 leaders, how sad is that for conservatives when the black guy always got center stage?

So yes the conservative movement has gotten their way over the years, give them credit, and turned the country into a conservative mess when it comes to governing. As we continue to slide towards banana republic/ 3rd world status we know who to thank don’t you agree?

Posted by: j2t2 at July 11, 2017 4:31 PM
Comment #417990

“The only mistake Don Jr did was to not delete all his emails…”

That’s the problem with deleting e-mails. You never know who else saved them, copied them, or forwarded them. All those investigations of HRC found nothing, but it was not for lack of trying, because remember, for every sender there is at least one recipient, and maybe a lot more.

The next connection re the Trump campaign: six days after the meeting, the Russians started releasing their hacked material. What, exactly, was the nature of the deal? The Trump campaign changed the GOP platform so that it would no longer be US policy to arm Ukraine. It was the ONLY change the Trump campaign made. Trump repeatedly denied the Russians were behind it, despite assertions from our own IC. He called for people to look at Wikileaks 164 times in the month of October alone. To this day, Trump refuses to criticize Putin, although he feels free to criticize our allies.

Posted by: phx8 at July 11, 2017 4:56 PM
Comment #417991

“And Trump Jr. just can’t shut up. He tweeted:”

Once again our Pal on the Left reveals he doesn’t understand simple humor. Too bad.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 11, 2017 5:02 PM
Comment #417992

True, Republicans are either going in lock step with Democratics to “get along” and “be bi-partisan” and “reach across the aisle” or they are lambasted as ignorant, racist, fools who don’t know how to think.

The truth is the media and the Democratic party go out of their way to destroy anyone who disagrees with them. Republicans get to D.C. and if they don’t toe the Democratic’s line they either throw up their hands in disbelief of how it operates or they get run out of town by the media and the D.C. environment leftists.

We’ve seen, in the election, how the least and worst coast are dependent on government. I’m glad there’s fly over country to guard against them.


Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2017 5:39 PM
Comment #417993
My only concern is that republicans have followed for so many years, they don’t know how to exert themselves and take control.

Wow Blaine, followed who? The rich backers? the conservative movement? Admitting to an inability to lead sure is up front for a troll. Here we were told them businessmen were dynamic leaders able to leap tall buildings in a single bound and such. But the base is really having thoughts on the inability of the repubs to do anything but call names and makes up lies for their followers to use on political websites. I am amazed that a real thought could escape from the movement followers without Faux approval.

Well I would like to say I’m surprised except I’m not. After the corruption of the Reagan administration, GHWB found out the truth and actually looking out for the countries interest didn’t work. Then GWB and the ineptness and inability of the right to lead did surface. The economic crash, and the billions of dollars lost in Iraq are just reminders of the recent pass that prove your point.

Then of course Trump is a whole new low when integrity and honesty are needed. 6 years of the repub Congress braying about Obamacare and not a plan to replace it! Can’t say as I blame you, it was just the honesty that that took me by surprise.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 11, 2017 5:40 PM
Comment #417994

j2t2, really? You talk about criticizing sources and half the time that’s your only argument. It’s Breitbart, or Infowars, or Rush Limbaugh. It’s hardly ever the content, always the source. What hypocrisy!

Hillbilly deleted 30,000 emails. She admits she deleted them. Yet, nobody has a copy of them, as phx8 just said must exist.

That alone stinks of a cover-up.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2017 5:43 PM
Comment #417995

Does anyone else wonder about the mental acuity of some of our Pals on the Left?

Do they know not to bath and use an electric hair dryer at the same time?

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 11, 2017 5:44 PM
Comment #417996

Try to keep up. The Trump/Russia scandal is moving fast. The Senate Intelligence Committee did not even know about this meeting between Trump Jr., Kushner, and Manafort. That means the FBI and Special Counsel Mueller are only beginning to unravel this thread. Senator Blumenthal thinks there may be a “trove” of e-mails. Maybe. Maybe not. We will see. He also thinks that as the investigators close in on him, Trump may try to fire Special Counsel Mueller through the Deputy AG, Rosenstein. Hard to believe, but not out of character for someone as reckless as Trump.

We owe this exposure of the Trump lies and collusion to the investigative reporting of the free press, specifically the NYT. At the beginning I said a Trump presidency would force Americans to show what they are made of. The free press as stepped up and we should all be proud and thankful. Despite repeated denunciations for being “the enemy of the people” that the entire investigation was a “witch hunt” and a “hoax,” the NYT pursued and published this story.

Posted by: phx8 at July 11, 2017 5:58 PM
Comment #417998

This story is a fantasy! Who hasn’t met with someone when they were told they have information about a political opponent in a campaign? If you think that is a crime you’re more delusional than what we all think!

You’re making this stuff up out of thin air and trying to call it a crime. You’re off your rocker if you really believe this stuff is illegal.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2017 6:06 PM
Comment #417999

How many political orgasms can one guy have in a day? Ask phx8.

Can anyone tell us what law(s) were broken.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 11, 2017 6:07 PM
Comment #418001

Can phx8 provide a quote from the NYT article that gives just one fact of “Trump lies and collusion?”

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 11, 2017 7:22 PM
Comment #418002

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/18/obama.trip/index.html

People who Obama colluded with during his 2008 campaign:

King Abdullah II of Jordan

President Shimon Peres
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert
Defense Minister Ehud Barak
Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni
Likud Party leader Benjamin Netanyahu
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas
Prime Minister Salaam Fayad.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown
Conservative Party Leader David Cameron

French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2017 7:28 PM
Comment #418003

This controversy went nowhere in the media!

ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy#Criticism_of_investigation
1996 United States campaign finance controversy

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2017 7:41 PM
Comment #418004

Possible crimes: Kushner failed to reveal this meeting on his security application.

Trump Jr., Kushner, and Manafort may have violated campaign election laws and the Logan Act.

Trump Jr. betrayed his country. That may be treasonous, but that is using the word as an adjective and it is not legally the same as treason. Technically, we are not at war with Russia. We do have sanctions. The cyber attack could also be considered an act of war, but since we have not formally declared it, I doubt that charge would fly in court.

It will be interesting to see where Mueller takes this. We are only at the beginning of what is shaping up to the largest scandal in American history.

Posted by: phx8 at July 11, 2017 7:50 PM
Comment #418005

Why aren’t you apoplectic about this, phx8.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/shocker-clinton-campaign-took-money-from-agents-for-foreign-interests/

Never mind. I forgot Democratics believe the only thing they do wrong is to let the Republicans destroy the country.

Right, phx8?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2017 7:57 PM
Comment #418006

“Possible crimes: We are only at the beginning of what is shaping up to the largest scandal in American history.”
Posted by: phx8 at July 11, 2017 7:50 PM

Orgyman makes a leap that Superman would find difficult.

I have heard a new “crime” being bandied around the media today…”intent to collude”. LOL

The Bard wrote; “To intend to collude or not to intend to collude; that, is the question.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 11, 2017 8:00 PM
Comment #418007

The desperation on the right is overwhelming. The cries of “no story here”, “it’s Clintons fault”, “look over there”, the fever pitch of the conservatives blaming the MSM for continuing on the Russian story. The denials at the top, Trump saying the sanctions bill, languishing in Congress, wasn’t discussed while his aides saying it was discussed. Repubs in Congress holding the bill up while the Trumpsters try to water it down for Putin. So many lies from the Whitehouse and conservatives wonder why the story continues on.

Meanwhile the movement followers goosestepping all over the internet shouting and screaming “it isn’t true”. How many lies does it take from the Whitehouse before even the most dedicated of Trumpettes abandons the royal family? My guess is most of them are so into the cognitive dissonance thing they are shouting “to infinity and beyond” to my question.

So who falls on the sword, silver spoon jr? My guess is Dad will get him out of the country, with the help of his Russian friends, just before the axe falls.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 11, 2017 8:12 PM
Comment #418009

J2 and ph, what happened to all your commie friends? Have they bailed on you? Stupid can only go so far.

Posted by: Blaine at July 11, 2017 9:02 PM
Comment #418010

j2t2,
Don’t forget, Trump can pardon the whole crowd. They might have to leave the country, but by the time this is over, no one will be sorry to see them go.

It will be interesting to see how long conservatives keep echoing Limbaugh and Hannity and cheering on people who have betrayed the country. Trump will keep the lies coming, but a lot Republicans are already getting a little queasy.

Posted by: phx8 at July 11, 2017 9:44 PM
Comment #418011

That’s being giddy with laughter, phx8. You and j2t2 can’t control yourselves. You guys remind me of a kitten trapped in a corner.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 11, 2017 11:13 PM
Comment #418012

They remind me of a couple of fools. They live in the land of Maxine Waters. A fantasy land.

Posted by: Blaine at July 11, 2017 11:38 PM
Comment #418014
J2 and ph, what happened to all your commie friends?

Putin killed them for talking about Trump and his relationship with Russian prostitutes and his fondness for golden showers, why do you ask?

Stupid can only go so far.

That is what Rubio, Cruz, Bush, et al said about Trump Blaine. Never underestimate the power of stupid, look at the conservative movement and how they have taken over the country with money and stupid.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 12, 2017 12:11 AM
Comment #418015

Gruber agrees with you j2t2. You and he have the same attitude. You both must have read the book “How To Win Hearts And Minds”.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 12, 2017 12:19 AM
Comment #418016

Lying to the American people is not a crime, but the Trump White House lies have completely destroyed its own credibility. Still, I would like to nominate this one for top lie by a Trump. It comes from an interview of Trump Jr. with Jake Tapper, “about Mook’s allegations that Russian state actors were behind the leaked DNC emails. Trump Jr.’s response is staggering, considering what we know now:

In the clip above, CNN anchor Jake Tapper asks Trump Jr. about Mook’s allegations that Russian state actors were behind the leaked DNC emails. Trump Jr.’s response is staggering, considering what we know now:

TAPPER: [Mook] seemed to be suggesting that this is part of a plot to help Donald Trump and hurt Hillary Clinton. Your response?

TRUMP JR.: Well, just goes to show you their exact moral compass. They’ll say anything to be able to win this. This is time and time again, lie after lie. You notice he won’t say, “Well, I say this,” he’ll say, “Here are experts, here’s house cat at home who once said this is what’s happening with the Russians.” It’s disgusting; it’s so phony.

Trump Jr. also went on to say that Mook ought to be “ashamed of himself” for spreading the idea that Russia was working in support of the Trump campaign. But just weeks earlier, in early June, British publicist Rob Goldstone had informed Trump Jr. about “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

Go to the link to see the video:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/11/15953754/donald-trump-jr-cnn-russia-hacking-disgusting-phony-dnc-election

What makes the lie so awesome is the sheer passion behind it. This is a guy who is lying with all his heart. He really leaves it all out there. 110%. Now THAT is how to tell a lie. Oh, sure, Pence & Priebus & Spicer & Sanders & Manafort & Conway & Trump all have their moment in the sun, but Trump Jr. kicks it up a notch.

Posted by: phx8 at July 12, 2017 12:35 AM
Comment #418017

You’re actually trying to convince people that inquiring about information pertaining to a political opponent during a campaign is a crime?

Are you serious?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 12, 2017 12:55 AM
Comment #418018

Do you really think Hillbilly’s record as Sect. of State is above scrutiny to the point you will prosecute people who attempt to learn of it?

Who’s been calling who a NAZI?

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 12, 2017 12:59 AM
Comment #418023

” All those investigations of HRC found nothing “

BWA HA HA HA HA !!!!!! Now that shit’s funny !


Posted by: dbs at July 12, 2017 6:50 AM
Comment #418026

Right along with contempt of congress charges and a multitude of people pleading the fifth. Now we know there are Clinton loyalists who leak information for political reasons.


Posted by: Weary Willie at July 12, 2017 7:53 AM
Comment #418027

“Putin killed them for talking about Trump and his relationship with Russian prostitutes and his fondness for golden showers, why do you ask?”

j2, what are you talking about? You have a warped mind that bounces from accusation to another and we are supposed to follow you?

Posted by: Blaine at July 12, 2017 8:01 AM
Comment #418029

Latest polls:

Tax reform is most important issue 50.8%
Least important issue is Trump/Russian collusion 47.7%
49% think there is no Trump/Russian collusion
48% think too much coverage about Trump and Russia

You would never know this if you listen to the fake media.

The poll goes on to say that only one fourth of Americans believe there is a Trump/Russian collusion, which is understandable considering about 25% of Americans are liberal.

Posted by: Blaine at July 12, 2017 8:36 AM
Comment #418030

Maslansky & Partners poll:

Want the Trump administration to focus on jobs/economic growth 57%
This poll was agreed on by republicans, democrats, and independents equally.

Posted by: Blaine at July 12, 2017 8:47 AM
Comment #418032

Well, you conservatives seem pretty desperate to change the subject.

There will be arguments over the illegal nature of what has happened. By publishing the e-mail thread, Trump Jr. confessed to conspiracy to commit election fraud, to put it in legal terms. However, there are several interviews to be done first, and the Special Counsel will want to pursue that thread.

In the meantime, an argument over whether it was legal or illegal ignores the question of whether it was moral or immoral. The Trump campaign colluded with Russia in the 2016 campaign.

You can still be a conservative and a Republican and recognize the immoral nature of the Trump presidency. The Trump people need to go. Remember where your loyalties belong.

Posted by: phx8 at July 12, 2017 9:54 AM
Comment #418033
j2, what are you talking about? You have a warped mind that bounces from accusation to another and we are supposed to follow you?

Blaine, whats so hard, you asked about my commie friends and I told you. Yet you call me fool.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russian-spies-infamous-golden-shower-memos-541315

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2016/jan/04/does-vladimir-putin-kill-journalists/

Posted by: j2t2 at July 12, 2017 10:44 AM
Comment #418034

Ph, change the subject from what? Your fantasy stories? It’s not the subject of a conversation when you make up stories.

You make accusations with no facts. Then you speak of moral and immoral. Everything on your side boils down to touchy-feely. What do you care about morality; do you support the murder of babies in the womb? If you do, then you are immoral. Do you support democrats spreading the lies that the republicans want to shove grandma off the cliff, starve children, or take SS away from seniors? If you do, then your immoral, because you know it’s a lie. I consider Trump to be one of the most moral men who have ever lived in the WH. Do you understand that Trump enjoys an 80+% support among republicans. Who are you trying to convince? Obama lied multiple times to the American people, Hillary has been caught in numerous lies, Obama’s cabinet members lied to the American people; this is not accusations, it’s fact. And you try to thwart the will of the American voters by repeating fake media accusations? Good luck with that.

J2, you have a sick and perverted mind. It takes a sick person to even write an accusation like the one you linked too, and twice in the sick accusations it’s stated there is no proof. For your simple and sick mind, that means no evidence, just false accusations. Add to that, the sick perverted mind that would even repeat the nonsense. You are a fool. A mind warped sick fool.

Have you ever attempted to search for the source of the articles accusations? The source is not what Newsweek, CNN, Buzfeed, or any other fake media outlet reports. They are simply rewriting what they read. Where is the source? Who sits around and makes crap like this up? The evidence that you and ph provide for your accusations against Trump qualifies you as nothing more than trolls. Either paid or unpaid, but on WB for one purpose, and that is to smear the president of the United States. Don’t bother to answer me, if you two are the best the left has to offer, I don’t want to read your comments. I find them very offensive.

Posted by: Blaine at July 12, 2017 2:20 PM
Comment #418035

“…look at the conservative movement and how they have taken over the country with money and stupid.”
Posted by: j2t2 at July 12, 2017 12:11 AM

And Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Al Gore and John Kerry all respond…”why didn’t we think of that strategy?”

Orgyman writes; “Trump Jr. confessed to conspiracy to commit election fraud, to put it in legal terms.”

Yup…that’s right. Seeking dirt on a political opponent is just an unspeakable act worthy of execution or life in prison.

“…was moral or immoral…”

We know for certain phx8 that there are few politicians on the Left who can even spell that word.

Once again phx8 writes; “The Trump campaign colluded with Russia in the 2016 campaign.”

Once again, I will ask for any credible proof he has and if so, to share with us all.

I am beginning to believe that my Pals on the Left have a special dictionary not available to the rest of us. Here’s a sample.

Collude = Speak to

Credible source = A handyman who works for the uncle of my barber.

Main Street Media = Those who make a very good living lying to America.

The Left = What remains when truth evaporates.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 12, 2017 2:51 PM
Comment #418038

“Harvard Law School professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz told Newsmax TV on Tuesday that “I don’t see a crime” in Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting last year with a lawyer with ties to the Russian government.

“Even if there was coordination, even if the worst-case scenario as far as we know now is the Russians getting in touch with Trump Jr. and saying: ‘We have some dirt on Hillary Clinton. Come. We’ll give it to you.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/crime-meeting-lawyer-collusion/2017/07/11/id/801123/?ns_mail_uid=5919126&ns_mail_job=1741329_07122017&s=al&dkt_nbr=uzyibjbb

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 12, 2017 3:40 PM
Comment #418061
J2, you have a sick and perverted mind. It takes a sick person to even write an accusation like the one you linked too, and twice in the sick accusations it’s stated there is no proof.

Blaine, you came trolling and had the audacity to ask about my commie friends, I told you about my commie friends. So stop whining.

For your simple and sick mind, that means no evidence, just false accusations. Add to that, the sick perverted mind that would even repeat the nonsense. You are a fool. A mind warped sick fool.

So you set the standard so much higher for liberals than you do for Trump and conservatives Blaine. I mean did Trump have evidence when he accused Cruz’s father of being involved in the Kennedy assasination? But you let it go,right? The man has said more in the few months in office without a bit of evidence and you support him, so get off your high horse and know that evidence doesn’t matter to conservatives.

Have you ever attempted to search for the source of the articles accusations? The source is not what Newsweek, CNN, Buzfeed, or any other fake media outlet reports.

The source is quoted in the article Blaine. Do you have any evidence that Newsweek, CNN, Buzzfeed are fake media outlets? Or do you just swallow the line Trump told you to swallow? Moron.


They are simply rewriting what they read. Where is the source? Who sits around and makes crap like this up?

Because conservatives did it for years without a shred of integrity or dignity and won the election Blaine. You guys bought into anything Faux, Breitbart and the rest of the consrvative media decided to shove up your a** without so much as whimper. So don’t go talking crap when it happens to you. Hell they just copied each other as sources and that works for you when it is what you want to hear.

The evidence that you and ph provide for your accusations against Trump qualifies you as nothing more than trolls. Either paid or unpaid, but on WB for one purpose, and that is to smear the president of the United States.

Poor Blaine come trolling and leaves all butthurt. Acting all innocent when it comes to Blaine smearing the president of the United States these past several years. Who you kidding Blaine you have no moral highground here, no right to talk, so stop whining for Trump.


Don’t bother to answer me, if you two are the best the left has to offer, I don’t want to read your comments. I find them very offensive.

Wow Blaine it seems you can dish it out but can’t take it. Imagine my surprise.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 13, 2017 12:19 AM
Comment #418063

For the life of me I can’t understand why I respond to this.

I can’t understand why the left is going to such extremes to try to justify this whole Russian collusion thing.

Maybe I can.

Maybe the left is guilty of crimes much more horrid than we can imagine and they are going to the mat to keep it hidden. The deep state is getting itchy and the Democratics are being pressured to protect it.

They’re pulling out all the stops, because it is quite literally their Waterloo, their last dying gasp.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 13, 2017 1:57 AM
Comment #418068

Bingo WW, that plus destroy the Trump administration. Never has there been such a threat to the Washington establishment.

Posted by: Blaine at July 13, 2017 6:59 AM
Comment #418070

Wow you guys are so wound so tight you actually believe Trump is anti-establishment. But the only thing he has done is for the establishment, other than talking s**t. Why don’t you need proof when it comes to Trump and what he says. Why do you remain so divided, so set in your ways, so hateful so easily duped into believing anything Trump says? It is after all exactly what “the establishment” wants you to do.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 13, 2017 8:45 AM
Comment #418076

Ok j2, you explain to me who supports president Trump? We know the democrats are his enemy. Do the RINO’s like McCain and Graham support him? Establishment in DC are those who are imbedded in DC, including non elected employees. Do they support Trump? No, they don’t. How could your warped mind even come up with Trump supports the establishment? Once again, you have no evidence of that comment.

Posted by: Blaine at July 13, 2017 9:55 AM
Comment #418077

Blaine

Remember, the left intentions are as pure as the driven snow. Lmfao !!!!!!

Posted by: dbs at July 13, 2017 9:58 AM
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