CNN Doxing Reddit Trolls and Latter Stage Decadent Progressivism

The venerable Fred Barnes, writing in the Weekly Standard, has suggested that Trump would have been “wise” to have followed Nixon’s advice to “never shoot down.” But, of course, President Trump is his own hatchet man, his own counter-puncher, as Barnes puts it. Anyone who attacks/criticizes the president gets a tweet back from the president himself.

So, is this a uniquely Trumpian phenomenon? Maybe not. As counter-productive as the president's tweets can be, consider CNN's doxing/outing of a Reddit User who apparently created the GIF that birthed the tweet of the Trump Wrestlemania takedown of a CNN-headed opponent.

With CNN's explicit threat to reveal who he is hanging over him, the internet troll was forced into a groveling apology worthy of a North Korean courtroom. As a result of his apology, the as-yet unnamed troll will remain provisionally anonymous; but we'll see how long that lasts before the media "accidentally" leaks his identity. But CNN has explicitly stated that it reserves the right to reveal his identity should he do something online, or even offline perhaps, that bothers them.

As has been pointed out, if who he is is newsworthy then his identity should be revealed. But this is not hard-nosed journalism on the part of CNN. It's Orwellian thought-control and behavior conditioning. Look, the guy's at the very least silly, and perhaps far worse than that. However. He still has his First Amendment Rights, and to deliberately threaten his anonymity is an abuse of CNN's overwhelming power as a multi-billion dollar media giant.

If the issue is internet anonymity, then CNN should DOX every troll - left, right, and center - that they can find on the net. Set up CNN-DOX and give it a starting budget of $500 million. Let's get this done guys. Lets end net anonymity!!

No? That wasn't the point of what CNN did? Really?

One of the so-called truisms of progressive ideology is, of course, that the personal is political. Identity politics is all about applying neo-marxist tactics to cultural questions that are increasingly marginal but thrust towards society's center stage with all the righteous fury of a Che Guevara staring angrily at a bombed out supply ship in Havana's harbor.

Maybe this is decadent latter-stage identify politics. I don't like what you said, so I'll dox you or tweet you to death. Metaphorically that is. So far at least. And likely economically in the case of the besieged Reddit troll. He would have very likely been dismissed from whatever job he (if he's a he and he surely is) currently holds. We cannot condone this type of behavior on the part of any employees of ours. It's not who we are. Yadda. Yadda. Yadda.

So are both CNN's Reddit Troll Doxing and Trump's Counter-Puncher-in-Chief Tweeting symptoms of decadent latter-stage progressivism? The use of powerful media and political institutions to settle personal scores on a level not seen in the past? Or was it always personal - even among the founding fathers - and we're just being more honest in today's world? One prays, and it seems to me, that it is far more a case of the former, and not a case of us being somehow more honest nowadays.

Posted by Keeley at July 6, 2017 1:01 PM
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Comment #417830

CNN May have violated some Georgia laws.

On another note, should we wait for the apology from the lefties on WB who repeated the mantra of 17 government spy organizations who stated there was collusion between Trump and the Russians? It turns out there were only 3 people from 3 departments who agreed with Clapper. The AP and the WAPO retracted their comments over the weekend, but CNN and others haven’t got the memo yet. There is no Russian connection which supports Trumps calls of “fake news”; so now we branch out to attacking Trump for calling for violence against the fake news. Never mind the fact that only liberals have actually committed acts of violence.

It must be depressing to be a liberal in this day and age.

I listened to Trumps speech in Poland today and was never so proud to be an American. After 8 years of an apologist America hater, we now have a president who puts America first and actually loves this country.

Posted by: Blaine at July 6, 2017 1:23 PM
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Posted by: Assignment Writing Service at July 6, 2017 2:21 PM
Comment #417834

Tyranny can be found anywhere, in religion, government and media. CNN is exercising it’s right of tyranny.

Yes Blaine, I loved President Trump’s words in Poland. He loves God and he loves America.

Our Liberal Pals have hung up their keystrokes and slunk off to wait for better political times.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 6, 2017 3:59 PM
Comment #417835

The article here is terribly ill-informed. CNN did not ‘dox’ the creator of the CNN gif. The creator was only 15 years old and his personal information was not released. CNN did confront the creator with his anti-Semitic and Neo-Nazi statements on the internet, and faced with the loss of anonymity, the embarrassed teen took it all down and says he will not do that anymore.

The question is, how did a Neo-Nazi post make it to the president? And what does it say about a president who posts something with that kind of origin?

Blaine,
It has been fact checked again by Politifact and the claim about 17 intelligence agencies remains true.

“On Oct. 7, the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.”

Here is part of the statement:

“The U.S. Intelligence Community (USIC) is confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from US persons and institutions, including from US political organizations. The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow—the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europe and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.”

The DNI speaks for the entire IC. The confusion seems to be over whether each agency conducted its own separate investigation. There were not 17 different investigations. All agencies agreed with the findings of the investigations that were conducted. Clapper speaks on behalf of the group. To date, none have publicly disagreed with the joint statement.

So you like the second “American carnage” speech in Poland? It was full of fear, threats, and concern over survival. While other nations were stressing inclusion, unity, commonalities, trade, and shared purpose, the President was sewing fear and divisiveness.

“The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.”

Good Lord. The President of the United States said that! What a sad day. How far we have fallen. That kind of fear-filled statement is something a dictator would say.

The EU came about through the union of individual nation states. The United States came about through the union of individual states- you know, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Gosh, just imagine, all those states acted against their own self-interest in order to join together and form a federal government.

You must really hate this country.

Posted by: phx8 at July 6, 2017 4:13 PM
Comment #417836

phx8, you need to notify the AP of your evidence that there is still collusion between Trump and Russia. They have backed down for the story.

You are merely the only surviving troll left on WB. It seems that Royal is correct, the rest have crawled back under their rocks to await another leftist talking point.

Posted by: Blaine at July 6, 2017 5:07 PM
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Here is the AP clarification:

“WASHINGTON (AP) — In stories published April 6, June 2, June 26 and June 29, The Associated Press reported that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump. That assessment was based on information collected by three agencies - the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency - and published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which represents all U.S. intelligence agencies. Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment.”

Trump said something about this from the podium. Trump “noted that several news organization had to correct stories saying that all 17 intelligence agencies had concluded Russian meddling in the US election.”

“Let me just start off by saying I heard it was 17 agencies. I said, ‘Boy that’s a lot.’ Do we even have that many intelligence agencies? Right? Let’s check it. And we did some very heavy research. It turned out to be three or four. It wasn’t 17.”

That is a really odd thing to say, since he is the president and the IC reports to him. The investigation and report were prepared by the CIA, FBI, and NSA. It was overseen by the DNI, Clapper, who issued a joint statement on behalf of the IC. While it would be true to say all 17 did not sign the findings, none dissented, and none of the findings have been changed since then.

The FBI investigation continues, and so does the investigation by the Special Counsel.

You wrote: “… you need to notify the AP of your evidence that there is still collusion between Trump and Russia. They have backed down for the story.”

That is dead wrong. Possible collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians continues.

But if it cheers you up, I think collusion will be very difficult to prove. Money laundering, however, can be traced.

And if you want to get depressed about something, consider that General Flynn has not said a word in public in a very long time. There is a good chance the FBI turned Flynn. Same with Manafort. The minute both registered as foreign agents two years after they were legally required to do so is not a good sign. That is a crime punishable by 5 years in prison. The Watergate scandal resulted in a couple dozen people getting convicted. Think Flynn and Manafort are singing like canaries?

Posted by: phx8 at July 6, 2017 5:41 PM
Comment #417838

Think Flynn and Manafort are singing like canaries?
Posted by: phx8 at July 6, 2017 5:41 PM

Who cares; nothing they have to say will affect President Trump.

I am patiently waiting for Ms. Lynch and a few other top Obama cabinet members to face serious questions from congress. I believe they will sing very loudly to avoid, or reduce, prison sentences.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 6, 2017 5:50 PM
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RF,
That is such a blatantly obvious distraction. It is pitiful, expecting prosecutions of previous administration officials for imagined offenses, while pretending nothing will affect Trump. Get a grip. There is a real investigation going on now. Right now. Not an imagined one against the ghosts of administrations past. Not a replay of Benghazi!!! or the HRC e-mails. Right now. The Trump campaign is under investigation for cooperating with the Russians. There is a Special Counsel and an all-star team of 15 prosecutors. There are at least two grand juries, subpoenas have been issued, and more grand juries could have been secretly convened. And those prosecutors specialize in going after Russians, Eastern Europeans, the mob, money laundering, fraud, and public corruption, and that is just for starters.

Trump has lied through his teeth about Russian meddling in the election. He is weak. He is afraid his legitimacy is under question. Trump desperately tries to blame others- Obama, the media, the IC, you name it. But Trump is a student of no one and nothing. Putin sees that insecurity and ignorance, and so does everyone else.

Posted by: phx8 at July 6, 2017 6:48 PM
Comment #417845

I do believe our Pal phx8 has lost his mind with his rants about our president.

Can phx8 tell us more about the “all-star team of 15 prosecutors”? Are they all Dems?

He writes; “The Trump campaign is under investigation for cooperating with the Russians.” Hmmm…the campaign is not Trump. Who in the campaign are you referring to?

Please tell us phx8, is President Trump under investigation? If so, please provide actual facts from a source even I will trust.

Please tell us why Obama let so-called Russian interference slide, and did nothing.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 6, 2017 7:10 PM
Comment #417847

We are beginning to worry about our Pals on the Left as they seem to be spinning out of control.

There is not a single creditable person who agrees on any factual obstruction or collusion charges against President Trump. The fake media has been found out and are retreating further into their dark dank caves.

Our president has been successful in spurring our economy and job growth. He has shamed some NATO members into living up to their promises of military spending. He is protecting America by curbing immigration from suspect nations. He will hopefully end funding to sanctuary cities and states. He is placing American interests above the greedy interest of others. He is being patient with North Korea while our diplomats and military formulate the best plan for dealing with that rogue nation.

I could go on but I am sure my Pals on the Left are already apoplectic.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 6, 2017 7:29 PM
Comment #417850

The left are loosing their minds. There is no evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia, all we have are the comments of the fake news, and the leftist trolls on watchblog who repeat the talking points as if they are true. The facts are that Trump gets more respect from foreigners than he does from the left. He’s done more for the American people in less than 6 months than Obama did in 8 years. Everything the left has spouted over the years has vanished. Example; “even if we start drilling now, it will be 10 years before we produce oil”, or, “even if we abolish Obama’s EPA regulations, the American coal production will never come back”, or, “Trump will never get othe nations to follow his lead”, not to mention the continuous drivel from the fake news about all the problems and turmoil within the WH, and who’s fighting and who’s leaving and who’s being fired. It’s all BS, and the trolls on WB continue to propagate it.

Posted by: Blaine at July 6, 2017 9:49 PM
Comment #417851

Let me go on to say, I don’t believe anything the MSM says and I certainly don’t believe the trolls on WB.

Posted by: Blaine at July 6, 2017 9:59 PM
Comment #417852

Agree Blaine. I really believe the USA dodged a bullet with the election of Trump over Hillary.

Eight years of Obama followed by Hillary would have put this country on a path that would be hard to impossible to reverse. Immigrants would become citizens in large numbers with loyalty to the dems.

A few states on the East and West coast would have political control of the rest of the country. Courts would be stacked with liberals top to bottom. More free stuff and $30T of debt would quickly rise to some astronomical number.

It took a war to turn this country around in the 40’s. But, we can’t do that again as war is way more dangerous.

The MSM would have acted as Hil’s propaganda machine. FOX and Hannity would have been jailed by now, and so on - - -

Posted by: Roy Ellis at July 6, 2017 10:21 PM
Comment #417853
Our president has been successful in spurring our economy and job growth.

What exactly has gotten better since and what legislation has Trump signed that has caused this spurring you and the alternative facts conservatives spout?

He has shamed some NATO members into living up to their promises of military spending.

Which ones and how much have they kicked in Royal?


He is protecting America by curbing immigration from suspect nations.

Not really, this ban of Trumps only stiffens the law already in place by lifting the exceptions on those from the 7 countries with visas. But the real question is are we safer when the ban doesn’t apply to those countries that have produced almost 95% of the terrorist that have actually killed on American soil? Instead he is kissing the kings ass over in Saudi, so lets not boast about something as dubious as your silly claim Royal.

He will hopefully end funding to sanctuary cities and states.

Hope you say, hahaha.


He is placing American interests above the greedy interest of others.

What exactly has he done but talk Royal? He has got the finger from Mexico when he told them to pay for the wall. He hit the Saudis up for some weapons deal but who gains from that the taxpayer? Oh yeah and his daughters new charity.


He is being patient with North Korea while our diplomats and military formulate the best plan for dealing with that rogue nation.

Seriously? As patient as Obama and GWB?

What next jumping from tall buildings, seating on a speeding locomotive and faster than a speeding bullet?

speaking of trolls… here’s Blaine

He’s done more for the American people in less than 6 months than Obama did in 8 years.

Blaine please tell us what he has done that has improved the lives of all Americans not just the few friends and family members he has taken on trips around the world as unpaid advisors.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 6, 2017 10:40 PM
Comment #417854

RF,
Of the 15 prosecutors, two are unnamed, and of the remaining 13, seven have donated to Democrats. It is illegal to discriminate in hiring based on political affiliation. Mueller, like Comey is a Republican. Rosenstein, #3 at DOJ Rachel Brand, and #4 at DOJ Dana Boente are all Republicans.

The Trump campaign is under investigation. We do not know if Trump as an individual is under investigation now. He may be. He may not. The Special Counsel & the FBI are not likely to announce this.

“Our president has been successful in spurring our economy and job growth.”

The economy looks exactly the same as it did under Obama. The job growth, unemployment rate, stock market, inflation, gas prices, and interest rates are all basically identical and following the same trends now as they did under Obama.

Blaine,
“The facts are that Trump gets more respect from foreigners than he does from the left.”

The recent Pew poll measuring foreign country’s confidence in the President gave Trump an aggregate of 22%. Obama was given 64%.

http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/

Tourism in the US is down significantly. People in the travel industry call it The Trump Slump.

“He’s done more for the American people in less than 6 months than Obama did in 8 years.”

Name an example that has helped the American people.

Coal is not coming back. It has nothing to do with Obama or the Democrats. It is simple economics. Fracking killed coal. Natural gas can provide power at 1/3 to 1/2 the price, and most power plants have already made the switch. Wind and solar power made coal even less viable. While jobs coal mining have steadily declined, wind was the fastest growing section of the economy for job generation.

Posted by: phx8 at July 6, 2017 10:45 PM
Comment #417855

We’re using coal to rejuvenate the steel industry.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 7, 2017 12:40 AM
Comment #417861

To phx8 and j2t2; why would I waste my time giving you examples of what Trump has done for America in his first 6 months? I visit this site every few months and nothing changes. It doesn’t matter how much ground your side loses, and they are loosing, you still come back with same liberal talking points. I have stated before that if Trump did no more than nominate Gorsuch and get him appointed to the SCOTUS, it was more than Obama did in 8 years. Countless laws have been passed through the congress and signed by Trump, while the leftist media has been obsessed with Trump/Russia. You can’t get it out of your minds and your comments prove your still obsessed with fake news. There is no longer a Democratic Party; there is only the leftist MSM and the democrats follow their every leadership. Trump has reversed Obama’s legacy of executive orders and has made 8 years of Obama as nothing more than a bad dream. You both quote polls for your arguments against Trump; but these are the same polls that showed Hillary Clinton victorious 6 months ago. Polls mean nothing, when the polls are conducted by the leftist media. As usual, the polls are not to provide facts, they are to set agendas. You two are trolls, who’s sole job is to carry the water of the socialist. For all we know, you are Islamic terrorists wearing pajamas and hiding behind your laptops and spewing your anti American propaganda.

Posted by: Blaine at July 7, 2017 7:52 AM
Comment #417863

Trump is meeting with Putin and it must kill the left to know that Trump is negotiating for America. What a deference between the cowardly anti American Obama bowing to Europeans and following rather than leading; and Trump, a strong leader pushing for what is good for us. The left had it wrong with Reagan and they have it wrong with Trump. The arrogance of the left believes only socialist are intelligent and conservatives are ignorant hill jacks. Elitism and arrogance.

Posted by: Blaine at July 7, 2017 10:29 AM
Comment #417864

From Breitbart News, Obama pontificates on the global stage:

“In Paris, we came together around the most ambitious agreement in history to fight climate change — an agreement that, even with the temporary absence of American leadership, will still give our children a fighting chance,” Obama said.

“Democracy is hard,” Obama said. “Progress does not move in a straight line. Its gains are often fragile.”

“But the future does not favor the strongman,” Obama said. “I believe deeply that the liberal international order; order based not just on military power or national affiliations, but on principles — the rule of law, human rights and individual freedoms — is the only choice.”

This is why we are so happy to see this racist clown gone. He believes global warming is more of a threat to us than terrorism. Of course, he couldn’t even say the word Islamic terrorism. Obama boasts of the rule of law, and yet was the most anti constitutional lawless president to ever sit in the WH. Of course he doesn’t believe in the strongman or the military; he cut spending on the security of the country. He doesn’t believe in individual rights or freedoms; he did everything he could to violate the religious rights of Christians.

Posted by: Blaine at July 7, 2017 11:05 AM
Comment #417876

Blaine has described Obama’s desires well. I will merely add a few thoughts.

The Left is intent on working toward a one-world government with a common currency; ruled by un-elected bureaucrats under the thumb of ruling tyrants.

Our constitution will be discarded in favor of a United Nations bill of human rights which will demand equality of both power and wealth. Religion will be discouraged and limited in its practice. National borders will be eliminated along with national pride.

The lowering tide will diminish all boats. The world will sink into depression, poverty and violence.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 7, 2017 2:34 PM
Comment #417878

You are dead on Royal. The left lies when they argue that they support the constitution and the bill of rights. They constantly push the globalist agenda. They have two main religions; the religion of abortion and the religion of global warming. Abortion allows them to murder undesirable populations; remember, margaret Sanger established PP for the purpose of eliminating blacks, and of course global warming is just another attempt at redistributing wealth. They hate America and especially hate capitalism. Everything the left does leads to the destruction of freedom and capitalism. There is no discussion of topics with them; in fact leftist are much like Islamic terrorists, either agree with them or face their violent actions.

Posted by: Blaine at July 7, 2017 3:45 PM
Comment #417890
To phx8 and j2t2; why would I waste my time giving you examples of what Trump has done for America in his first 6 months?

Seems to me were this anywhere close to the truth it wouldn’t take much time Blaine.

I visit this site every few months and nothing changes. It doesn’t matter how much ground your side loses, and they are loosing, you still come back with same liberal talking points.

And judging by your refusal to back up your talking points it seems you just troll this site every few months Blaine.

Wow and as I continue to read you prove me right Blaine.

Posted by: j2t2 at July 7, 2017 6:47 PM
Comment #417899

J2, you see, that’s how we’re different. I don’t need talking points, but you on the other hand continue the same mantra. For 6 months your side has continued the Russian/Trump collusion with no evidence. Several of the media outlets and even politicians are trying to walk it back, but you fail to hear or comprehend anything they say. It’s like, if you keep saying it, it will become the truth. Everything you’ve argued against Trump has become a joke. I have given some of Trumps successes and you ignore them, so you tell me, why should I waste my time providing proof of anything. Your mind is not capable of comprehending. You are part of the sick group in America that can’t face reality. Your like Maxine Watters, who has lost her mind.

Posted by: Blaine at July 8, 2017 7:48 AM
Comment #417903

Well said Blaine.

I like debating politics with just about anyone. It is becoming boring to debate some on WB as they have difficulty comprehending what is being debated. Why debate facts…are they not true for everyone?

A good and effective debater is one who has mastered the art of listening or reading well.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 8, 2017 4:19 PM
Comment #417906

Debating is useful only when information is not falsified, twisted, fake or just wrong. Otherwise, it’s just a war of words which is basically what we’ve currently got on WB.

I’ve brought up tax reform a couple of times but, even as tax reform is a major issue, no interest here.

The left doesn’t seem to have a well defined political position. They are mostly about social issues, gender, immigration, religion, anything where they can group people together and then cater to each group as an individual entity.

I don’t really care at this point, what they think or do. I’m just super glad we are done with them for 7 years or so. And, Thank God, Thank God, we really dodged a bullet what with Trump entering the race and defeating Hillary/dems/globalism/swamp, and so on - - -

Meanwhile, the US might start shipping gas, crude, maybe coal to Poland and Ukraine. Take that Russia. Take that dem/Trump haters.

Posted by: Roy Ellis at July 8, 2017 5:01 PM
Comment #417907

We are prepared to furnish huge quantities of Liquefied Natural Gas to Europe should Russia attempt to blackmail or coerce them by withholding theirs.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 8, 2017 5:11 PM
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Royal, what’s happened to the lefties? Only ph and j2 left to halfway attempt to spread the fake news talking points. What’s happened to the rest? You recon they have finally figured out they were played like cheap piano by the democrats and the media? It’s finally dawned on the, there is no Russian/Trump conspiracy. And they’ve lost 4 additional elections. There are main stream democrats who are finally coming out to say the party will continue to lose elections, if they don’t drop the attacks.

Posted by: Blaine at July 9, 2017 4:07 PM
Comment #419510

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