See you in hell, Fidel

I have been saving a bottle of champagne for more than ten years. Even though it is late, I will drink a toast to the passing of a bad man. He will be enjoying a climate even warmer than Cuba. See you in hell, Fidel.

Now maybe Cuba can make some progress.

Posted by Christine & John at November 26, 2016 1:02 AM
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Comment #410511

I’ll be curious to see if Obama comes out and acknowledges this, and pays some type of tribute to this butcher, Seems entirely possible.

Posted by: dbs at November 26, 2016 7:45 AM
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It is likely that progress will hasten in Cuba now. Fidel was no longer active, but his presence cast a cold, dark shadow onto any real reforms.

He was a bad man, but it is well that he lived as long as he did. He lived long enough to show himself as old, decrepit and out-of-touch as Cuba itself.

Unlike Che, who had the good sense to die young and leave a good looking corpse, Fidel will now always be the old, toothless man in sweat pants.

Posted by: Christine & John at November 26, 2016 9:03 AM
Comment #410520
It is likely that progress will hasten in Cuba now

If it does, it’ll undoubtedly be a result of the easing of US sanctions. Raul Castro is not that different from his brother and neither is the regime that will replace him in 2018.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 26, 2016 1:56 PM
Comment #410534

C&J
You might see him in hell. Not me I’m going the other direction

Posted by: tom humes at November 27, 2016 2:01 AM
Comment #410539

Warren

I figure the regime will collapse sooner. I remember when East Germany just fell apart. Nobody predicted that. I was in a meeting at the OECD in Vienna the very DAY the wall fell. Experts were all saying that the regime was fundamentally sound and that it had popular support.

Fidel was an important symbol. I am delighted that he finally died but glad that he survived long enough to become a farce.

Posted by: Christine & John at November 27, 2016 12:11 PM
Comment #410542

The Iron Curtain didn’t fall because some senile revolutionary finally kicked the bucket. It fell due to longstanding substantive reasons that finally boiled over. When those substantive reasons are lacking, regime change is far less likely. Consider how the Nasser-Sadat-Mubarak regime came back from the ashes after the Egyptian Revolution. Likewise, Hugo Chavez’s shitty ideas live on within Maduro.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 27, 2016 12:54 PM
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After all that, the f***** died of old age. It was the most unsuccessful sustained US policy in our history.

Meanwhile…

Every single incoming US president has attended every daily intelligence briefing.

Trump has attended two.

Posted by: phx8 at November 27, 2016 6:04 PM
Comment #410562

“It was the most unsuccessful sustained US policy in our history.”

So?

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 27, 2016 7:02 PM
Comment #410563

Not a believer in learning from mistakes, eh?

Posted by: phx8 at November 27, 2016 7:16 PM
Comment #410564

Nope, I do believe in the wisdom of that many presidents.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 27, 2016 7:17 PM
Comment #410582

Wisdom?

Here is a tweet from Trump on 11/27:

“In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally.”

This is a lie. This is a 100% complete fabrication. There is no wisdom behind Trump. To be absolutely clear, this lie does not have a shred of evidence behind it. None.

Now, think about what it means. Think about what he is doing.

For some reason, Trump is outraged about checking the vote in WI and a few other close states. WI should definitely be checked. Errors were made in vote tabulation in favor of HRC, and she may very well turn out to win the popular vote there. There was nothing nefarious about this. Mistakes were made in WI. Other states also should be checked too. According to some analysts, people who voted electronically favored Trump by an additional 7% over people who did not. There could well be a totally logical explanation for this. However, given the cyber attacks and hacks on voter registration databases in virtually every state, including four successful ones, an audit would make a lot of sense.

No one believes this will change the election outcome. But given the previous cyber attacks and successful attempt by Russia to influence the outcome of our election, we need to review it. We may need to make some big changes, such as having everyone vote by mail. The weakness in the system was never based in voter fraud by individuals. The vulnerability is at the point where votes are electronically tabulated.

Posted by: phx8 at November 28, 2016 10:19 AM
Comment #410585

Its amazing how many Americans, especially right wing Americans, HATE Fidel yet have no problem electing a man who has a crush on Putin claiming he was a better leader than Obama.You HATE communism but have no issue buying all kinds of worthless crap made in China. The PRC by the way have done all the same nasty stuff, if not worse, to Tibets and other minorities in China but keep those Iphones coming Communist China and we’ll keep pretending Fidel was the worst of the worst. Fidel did some terrible things and history won’t be kind to his legacy but even the Pope said his death was sad news, I’m sure the Pope is just another puppet of the Liberal Media Bias,right?

Posted by: Paul at November 28, 2016 11:13 AM
Comment #410608

phx8 failed to understand my comment about all the presidents who continued the Cuban sanctions.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 28, 2016 6:04 PM
Comment #410623

Paul, let’s take the spin off your post and get it straight.

Most US citizens see Fidel/Raul as a flyspeck on the world stage.

If one compares Putin and Obama in a non-ideological mindset then Putin may be seen as the better leader of a country. His countrymen would see some of his actions as positive.

Cottoning up to Iran to sell them military goods.

Taking back their old naval base in Crimea and holding on to much of Ukraine.

Protecting their naval base in Syria.

Poking a stick in the eye of the US at will.

And how might Obama be perceived by his countrymen.

Wing and a prayer deal with Iran.

Perceived as a weak leader in the ME and around the world.

Russian reset that went way bad.

Obamacare a failure from every perspective.

No real GDP growth in his 8 years.

Continued open borders and illegal immigration.

A reactor to world events as opposed to being proactive.

Like, Obama cut a deal with Castro and got nothing in return, all one way as I can tell.

My thoughts on trade are based on my opinion of what prompted trade deals with bad actors in the beginning. I think the power brokers believed that involving the bad actors in globalised trade deals would make the bad actors less likely to act out and more likely to go along to get along. Also, these trade deals were popular with the left and right as the liberals and the EPA was able to ‘clean up the air’ and the conservatives (oligarch’s) were able to go overseas and rape, pillage and burn. Also, both sides craved immigration. One side just wanting to be nice and the other side wanting an over abundance of cheap labor.

All this was tolerated, pushed down our throats, until the Trump ‘make America great again’ train came along.

In the coming year we should find out if China is susceptible to fair trade vs free trade. We will find out if the plan to involve China in the WTO has born any fruit.

Will Trump have the gonads to put some human rights demands in as part of a revamped trade deal? Is he smart enough to get secession on some issues from China?

Posted by: roy ellis at November 28, 2016 9:38 PM
Comment #410631

You’ve said nothing to show that you and many others are not hypocrites regarding which dictators you work with versus vilifying. Some long winded rant about all the reasons you think Obama isn’t a good leader doesn’t change the fact that you hold dictators to different standards and your president elect is the biggest hypocrite of them all. Changing the subject to Obama just proves you have no rebuttal to offer.

Posted by: Paul at November 29, 2016 7:07 AM
Comment #410633

Nice try Roy, but the left cannot see things in a ‘non-ideological mindset.’

Posted by: kctim at November 29, 2016 9:08 AM
Comment #410706

Right KC, I’ve been out here blogging in the middle for a good number of years now and I can’t recall a single time when something I had to say changed anyone’s mind on an issue.

I’m hopeful Trump can bring significant change to trade, immigration, and healthcare. Concern too, as to how he will handle ISIS, Russia, China and NK.

I think he sees in Romney a proactive thinker as opposed to a reactive thinker. We do need some strong thinkers in the mix, IMO.

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