What If Cleveland Pulls It Off?

The image of Brodie Copeland, a beautiful 11-year old kid from Texas is hard to shake. And we should let that image of him and his dad Sean rest deeply within our souls, and at least know that they left this life likely together, as father and son. Every one of the 84 (or perhaps more) individuals murdered on France’s Bastille Day will mean more than we can imagine for their loved ones, their friends, and their family. Like islamic terrorism’s other victims around the world. We can also honor the brave person, apparently a policewoman, who stood in the truck’s path to force it to veer and perhaps stop. After which the police were able to neutralize the monster behind the wheel.

The world can pause and remember and pray for the victims and their loved ones, but the world continues, including the electoral campaign in America. The final, theatrical stage (literally and symbolically) of the primary season are set up for the GOP and then the Democrat Convention. And we now all know that Mike Pence is indeed Trump's pick.

There is praise and criticism of Trump's choice for vice president. Interestingly enough, the praise for Pence as a solid social and fiscal conservative seems to be coming mostly from the mainstream media. The conservative media is, at best, divided over Pence's record, especially his term as governor of Indiana. And within his governorship, specifically the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and how it was implemented and amended came under attack from both the left and the right. And at least part of the business community who don't want their brands sullied by political debate.

To be fair to Pence: is there any way the Religious Freedom Restoration Act could not have been controversial to at least one or more factions in America's divided cultural mosaic? Mosaic. Not melting pot. As much as both metaphors are applicable to American society. Pence was attacked for not defending religious freedom more strongly in the face of a predictably loud and aggressive pushback from LGBT advocates. Pence was attacked as anti-gay. Pence was attacked as a wishy washy centrist.

Could the governor have planned the legislation and planned for the inevitable aftermath better than he did? Absolutely. Is he truly a fiscal conservative? Not to some Indiana commentators. Yes to those who know and worked with him on the hill. Including Speaker Paul Ryan.

But there's another more interesting Trump-shoulda-done-this-instead angle. As Allahpundit pointed out: Trump already has the evangelical vote. He doesn't need Pence to shore up his numbers with social conservatives. He needs someone to balance his ticket out. And while Pence with his years of experience does do that, some feel Gingrich would have been the perfect intellectual to give context and justification to Trump's tweets and pronouncements. As Rich Lowry - a NeverTrump'er if there ever was one - has written: you could phone Gingrich at 3 AM with some outrageous quote from the Donald and within a few minutes, he'd justify to you why what Trump said fits perfectly with the GOP and conservatives in general.

But Pence it is, and we now have a convention in Cleveland to witness and get through. Violence has long been predicted - as if some in the media wish they had been in Chicago in 1968 living it in color, rather than watching it in black and white on documentaries on PBS. Will the convention be marred by violent protests?

What if Cleveland and its police force and other security forces involved pull it off? Some shoving, some shouting, waving signs. And not much more. As an answer to the war on freedom waged by islamic terrorists, that would be a very good thing.

Posted by Keeley at July 15, 2016 5:17 PM
Comment #406109

IMO I think Pence is a good choice. He will serve as a good sounding board vis a vis the establishment vs Trump. He will serve as an ‘adapter’ between the administration and congress.

Also, believe that DNC operatives will pay to have enough discontent present in Cleveland to get some CNN film footage and so on - - -

Posted by: roy ellis at July 15, 2016 8:16 PM
Comment #406110

Oh, the DNC operatives will not have to pay anyone.

First, the Neo-Nazis and skinheads and other white supremacists have already announced they will be there to support Trump. We will see. They talk a big game, but the KKK types usually stay in the shadows. Remember, you are making common cause with those people- Neo-Nazis, skinheads, and white supremacists. They support Trump. There is a good reason so many in Republican leadership will not show in for the convention. And there is a good reason Trump could do no better than choose a failed governor who was probably going to lose his re-election bid.

This convention has trouble written all over it.

And Ohio is an open carry state. Gosh. What could possibly go wrong?

Trump has a bad habit of repeating material originating on Neo-Nazi sites, and people have noticed. He has made a plethora of bigoted comments about Mexicans, Muslims, and others. He promotes Birtherism, a fundamentally racist conspiracy theory. He said this:

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”

If people value their liberty and rights then they should show up in Cleveland to protest.

Posted by: phx8 at July 15, 2016 10:32 PM
Comment #406114
When Mexico sends its people

Like Mexico is run by some dictator who tells its people what to do and where to go. Drumpf is just as ignorant as his followers. I like Vicente Fox better than him. I just thought he was an annoying twit before. If you give an annoying twit a lot of publicity, he can be nominated for POTUS by the Rpblcns. He’s managed to chase away enough of his “own” party so that the convention should be a white supremacists dream. I heard the other day that he’s actually polling at 0% among the black population in some places. The pollster said he’d never seen that before in his career. I hope the convention is peaceful and goes off without any incident that would just give publicity to either his supporters or their opponents. We’ve seen enough murders this year and I’ve heard enough from the friends of the murderers here.

Posted by: ohrealy at July 16, 2016 10:28 AM
Comment #406115

Out of 2,472 delegates in Cleveland, a grand total of 18 are black.

“… The convention should be a white supremacists dream.”


And don’t forget, with a margin of error, Trump might actually be polling in the negative numbers! Heh. Last time I saw a number like that come out was when Scott Walker received 0% in the GOP primaries. It is not an easy thing to do when hundreds of people are polled. Look how many Republicans believe that Obama was a Muslim and not an American, or Global Warming is a hoax, or childhood vaccinations cause autism. It really takes some doing to hit zero with that crowd!

By the way, Mike Pence was one of those guys back in 2000 who insisted cigarettes were not killing people. “Time for a quick reality check. Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn’t kill.” When challenged, Pence “clarified that he wrote that there was no causal link medically identifying smoking as causing lung cancer,” which is flatly false. The link was established by the US AG in 1964. Pence fought regulations and smoking cessation programs hard, and received $100,00 from the industry for his efforts. My cousin died from throat cancer because of tobacco, and it was really ugly, and because of cigarettes, my aunt is dying of lung cancer even as we speak. Pence really is an a******.

Posted by: phx8 at July 16, 2016 10:46 AM
Comment #406117

I still want Boehner to be arrested for distributing checks from the tobacco companies on the floor of the USHOR. I guess it can happen since he left Congress.

We hear some things about Pence here once in a while. The Indiana Rpblcns have gotten worse since Steve Goldsmith ran for governor, and that wasn’t that long ago.

Posted by: ohrealy at July 16, 2016 11:12 AM
Comment #406120

If people value their liberty and rights then they should show up in Cleveland to protest.
Posted by: phx8 at July 15, 2016 10:32 PM

phx8 is not qualified to speak about “liberty and rights” since he and his Pals are constantly attempting to take them away from Americans.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 16, 2016 12:48 PM
Comment #406149

Tell me, RF. I would really like to know what you think about this situation:

Trump accused Cruz of stealing the caucus in Iowa. He called Cruz a p**** while on stage, said his father was involved with Lee Harvey Oswald, and suggested the media should investigate Cruz for his five mistresses, and just for good mesure, dissed his wife’s looks.

Now Cruz is slotted to speak at the convention.

What do you think Cruz should do? In the past, you called Cruz an honorable man. Should he use his platform to denounce Trump? Should he wait until he is close to Trump, and then deck him? That would be my choice, but then, I am not Cruz, and I would not put up with those kind of bullying insults.

In the past, you wrote “Go Trump.” Is his behavior acceptable to you? You feel free to accuse Hillary Clinton of lying. So how do you account for Trump accusing Cruz’s father of being involved in the JFK assassination, or accusing him of having five mistresses, or stealing a primary? Those seem far worse than anything any conservative has ever accused Hillary Clinton of doing. These things happened. How do you square this?

Posted by: phx8 at July 17, 2016 12:27 AM
Comment #406153
How do you square this?

That’s easy! One rule for me and my friends, and another rule for you and yours.

Posted by: ohrealy at July 17, 2016 2:19 PM
Comment #406156
Out of 2,472 delegates in Cleveland, a grand total of 18 are black.

You’ll Be Blinded by the White in Paul Ryan’s Capitol Hill Intern Selfie

Finding a POC in this image is like playing Where’s Waldo. I did manage to find one tho.
That picture of Paul Ryan with the GOP interns is so white that I had to put on sunglasses to look directly at it.
@SpeakerRyan and the diverse @HouseGOP interns … the entire Caucasian color palate is represented
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