Sit-Ins and the Assault on the Second Amendment

History might repeat itself, but when it does, it is often an imitation of a past that no longer exists. So, yes, John Lewis was there sitting-in at Nashville lunch counters nearly 60 years ago. He really is that old, unlike Elizabeth Warren who had she been old enough, would have never been part of such a demonstration. Times change. People change.

But the Democrat House Sit-in is more of a coup than a revolt. A media coup that will cycle for the next little while - even if the cameras and lights are off at the House of Representatives. We Shall Overcome was sung. And make no mistake: We Shall Overcome the Second Amendment is what that out-of-tune singing really meant.

There seem to be at least two broad flanks that the Left wants to attack when it comes to gun-owners and their constitutional rights. The first is data-driven. Carefully chosen data of course - from major urban centers where violent crime has recently spiked. Most likely as a result of court and political decisions that are hamstringing increasingly reluctant police forces around the country. And police officers - at least in some major cities - seem to have been engaged in a silent work-to-rule style protest.

But progressive groups like Physicians for Prevention of Gun Violence - a Michigan-based group by the way - are parsing the data from places like Detroit. And articles in the WaPo suggesting gay organizations take on the NRA, will use polling and data carefully arranged to show gun ownership causes civic violence. Never mind that some of America's safest cities - like Plano, Texas - are packed with law-abiding gun owners.

The other flank being targeted by progressives is the Constitution itself. From arguing that gun-owners are misreading the Second Amendment and the meaning of militias - an argument that has been repudiated vigorously - they now are attacking the very existence of the amendment. It's the fault of due process. No, it's more than that: it's the second amendment. Kill it. Can they be any clearer about what their intentions are?

Obama has already shouted out to John Lewis, supporting the theatrics. Hillary is almost certainly working out how to make destroying the second amendment part of her platform. Once she checks with her pollsters and donors. And Bernie Sanders of course could not resist the temptation to join the sit-in. Even as he has tried to carve out a path that acknowledges that the overwhelming majority of gun owners are law-abiding citizens.

The next President of The United States will decide the Supreme Court's makeup for a long long time. And that means deciding who will rule on the challenges to the Second Amendment that will be in their docket. Vigorous, violent challenges. Clarence Thomas has hinted he's ready to retire. And while his inbox and cellphone have almost certainly melted down with requests asking him to for-God's-sake Mr. Justice please stay on, it is clear that the Constitution and what it will come to mean over the coming years is what is increasingly at stake in 2016.

This coming election matters even more than an already-engaged citizenry fully realizes.

Posted by Keeley at June 24, 2016 4:33 PM
Comments
Comment #405563

Keeley, it was only a few decades ago that an effort was successfully made to grant equal rights to all American citizens.

Today’s democrats are now attempting to take away rights from all American citizens.

It seems that some Constitutional Rights deserve support and others deserve the dust bin.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 24, 2016 5:12 PM
Comment #405566

So you want the right to sell AR-15’s to people on the terrorist watch list and on the no-fly list, and do it without a background check. Just arm them with weaponry capable of killing dozens of people in a short amount of time. Why? Because it is their constitutional right to buy those kinds of weapons, even knowing there is a good chance they will use them to deprive dozens of innocent men, women, and children of their lives with those weapons. So! The AR-15 is more important than the lives of loved ones, spouses, and children. No amount of unspeakable suffering should be taken into account. The right of innocent people to be alive takes a back seat to the need to own an AR-15.

I see. Carry on.

Posted by: phx8 at June 24, 2016 8:54 PM
Comment #405567

phx8, If people on the terrorist watch list can’t get the weapons they want legally they will get them illegally or they will use a pressure cooker like they did in Boston or fly a plane into a building or use whatever they can to kill. This may be new to you but there are many ways to kill other then with a gun.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at June 24, 2016 9:22 PM
Comment #405568

Oh. So no point in having laws, since criminals might break them. Ok.

Posted by: phx8 at June 24, 2016 9:27 PM
Comment #405569

NEWS FLASH phx8, Criminals already break laws, that’s why they are called CRIMINALS, they won’t care how many laws you make, they will still break them.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at June 24, 2016 9:46 PM
Comment #405571

So we just let them run amok.

Posted by: phx8 at June 24, 2016 10:47 PM
Comment #405572

phx8, Never said that. Just saying that you can pass all the laws you can think of, Criminals don’t care they don’t obey them anyway. Or better yet in simple terms even you may understand, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS OBEY LAWS, CRIMINALS DO NOT.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at June 24, 2016 10:59 PM
Comment #405575

If the left would just look back through history they would see that giving up weapons leads to tyranny and realize this should not be an issue.

Since it is it leads me to believe there is an ulterior motive, which as history demonstrates, is tyranny.


Posted by: Weary Willie at June 25, 2016 9:32 AM
Comment #405577

So preventing bad things from happening is tyranny, because prevention takes away people’s right to do bad things. Since purchasing the means to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time is an exercise of freedom and only a potential problem, it should be allowed.

Posted by: phx8 at June 25, 2016 11:04 AM
Comment #405578

phx8, Please explain to us how making new laws are going to prevent Criminals and terrorist from getting the guns they want? Look at Chicago a city with strict gun laws and the murder rate is through the roof. Did strict laws curb gun crime there?

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at June 25, 2016 11:46 AM
Comment #405579


So…

Let me get this straight. The right believes that we shouldn’t pass any ore laws because the criminal element in our society will ignore them any way.

What a great plan. We could disband all of the state legislatures, and let’s not forget Congress, they’re not doing the work of the people any way so what’s the point of keeping them around.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 25, 2016 12:59 PM
Comment #405580

Rocky, How about lets enforce the ones that are already on the books. That would be a novel idea don’t ya think?

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at June 25, 2016 1:09 PM
Comment #405582


“That would be a novel idea don’t ya think?”

What’s novel about it? You yourself said that the criminals are ignoring them.

So what exactly is your point?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 25, 2016 1:17 PM
Comment #405583

Rocky, Actually enforcing the laws we already have would be the novel approach along with stiffer penalties for crimes committed with guns. Show me a Criminal who obeys the law and explain how creating more gun control laws will deter the criminals from getting the weapons they want.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at June 25, 2016 1:27 PM
Comment #405584


Ok, I’ll bite.

Please name for us the laws that are not being enforced that would have stopped all of the carnage such as what happened in Orlando.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 25, 2016 2:10 PM
Comment #405585

Rocky, That’s the point no law could have stopped a Terrorist or Criminal from getting the means to commit the carnage that happened in Orlando, or California. I use Chicago as an example of strict gun laws yet their murder rate is among the highest in the country. So explain how more gun control laws will prevent more carnage, or is it just a feel good moment for your side.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at June 25, 2016 2:23 PM
Comment #405586
This coming election matters even more than an already-engaged citizenry fully realizes.

Yes it does, the sad news is we have no choice at this point. Both political parties have given us their best…. and neither are acceptable to the people of this country. The oligarchy has spoken and the results are underwhelming IMHO.

The issue according to Keeley is the SCOTUS but who really thinks anyone will be able to appoint another justice unless they have a super majority in the Senate? While conservatives defile the Constitution by withholding advise and consent, create a police state with recent SCOTUS decisions they bemoan the perceived loss of 2nd amendment rights as if they were the only rights that mattered.

Which gets me to my question, Why is it 2nd amendment rights surpass the rights included in the rest of the Constitution conservatives? I suggest it is this mindset that needs to be corrected.

Y’all want to be able to defend yourself from the government, defend yourself from criminals and “law abiding citizens” that suddenly go berserk, defend yourselves from black kids in hoodies, with deadly force. You the angry and fearful do not want a nation of laws but a nation of deadly force. This mentality is why we have such a problem IMHO.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 25, 2016 2:28 PM
Comment #405588


“So explain how more gun control laws will prevent more carnage, or is it just a feel good moment for your side.”

First of all, as usual for anyone from the right, you decline to answer any questions.

Secondly, why are there sides? I don’t consider myself a liberal, as my views don’t reflect that definition.

Thirdly, Chicago isn’t even in the top 20 of violent crimes per 100,000 population.

Forth, please tell me why a person on the FBI’s watch list, or on the no-fly list should be entitled to buy a weapon, and I’m not talking about an AR-15, I’m just saying any weapon.

I have to say that the number 4 position is dumb as a post.


Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 25, 2016 3:11 PM
Comment #405590

The right wing here shut up for a while after the most recent mass murder. All they can do is come back with the same tired old militia amendment nonsense to justify selling weapons of mass murder to mass murderers. According to these sad people, only the gunman has the right to life and liberty.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 25, 2016 3:24 PM
Comment #405592

Rocky, First off the question I asked was never answered and that being “How is a new law going to prevent a Criminal or Terrorist from getting the gun or weapon he/she chooses?” I used Chicago as an example because so far this year 200-300 people have been killed and 1100-1200 have been wounded by guns, talk about mass carnage with strict gun laws. Your 4th example is dumb because some people on those lists don’t belong there. As far as an AR 15 goes there are many guns that are SEMI AUTOMATIC like the AR 15, I used to own a 22 cal. semi auto rifle. Should that gun be banned or strictly regulated? Since 1934 there has been a law that strictly regulates ASSULT WEAPONS. So if there is already a law that strictly regulates ASSULT WEAPONS why make another? In 2007 a law was passed called The improvement amendment act, saying that each state send a list of the people mentally incapable of owning a gun be forwarded to the feds, but the Obama Justice department is sitting on it.
ohrealy, San Bernadino and Orlando were TERROR acts but liberals seem to want to blame the gun instead of who or what is really to blame and that being RADICAL ISLAM.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at June 25, 2016 4:36 PM
Comment #405593

“In 2007 a law was passed called The improvement amendment act, saying that each state send a list of the people mentally incapable of owning a gun be forwarded to the feds, but the Obama Justice department is sitting on it”

Bulls**t. The list is hung up at the states level.

” Since 1934 there has been a law that strictly regulates ASSULT WEAPONS. So if there is already a law that strictly regulates ASSULT WEAPONS why make another?”

It’s called the “National Firearms Act”, and it was enacted in response to the gangland crime of the prohibition era, and it regulates all weapons except pistols and revolvers.

Surely any law that has stood for 82 years couldn’t possibly stand to be revised.

“Your 4th example is dumb because some people on those lists don’t belong there.”

Sorry, the good of the many…

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 25, 2016 4:53 PM
Comment #405594


“…that being RADICAL ISLAM.”

Wow, you said the “magic words”. Does this mean the war on terror is over.

Whodathunkit

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 25, 2016 4:57 PM
Comment #405595

Rocky, I read it is about the States but how to deliver funds to them and the Obama Justice Dept. can’t seem to figure out how to implement it. I agree the 82 year old law can be updated. When the FBI watch list and no fly list are fixed and people who don’t belong on them are taken off then and only then write that into the gun laws.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at June 25, 2016 5:04 PM
Comment #405596


“When the FBI watch list and no fly list are fixed and people who don’t belong on them are taken off then and only then write that into the gun laws.”

The statistics I have are from 2012. As of that year there were approximately 21,000 people on the “no-fly” list. The population of the US in 2013 was 315,091,138.

That’s much less than 1% of the total population, and frankly I think that’s close enough.

As I said, the good of the many always outweigh the good of the few.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 25, 2016 5:56 PM
Comment #405607

There’s also a saying in our CJsystem that says:

“Let 10 guilty go free before 1 innocent is found guilty.

Anyone in the world can walk across our borders, but 21,000 citizens of our country aren’t covered by the constitution?!

There’s a slippery slope!

Posted by: Weary Willie at June 26, 2016 11:36 AM
Comment #405608

WW,

Isn’t it funny how that logic went out the window when the government took away their freedom of movement 15 years ago?

Posted by: Warren Porter at June 26, 2016 12:05 PM
Comment #405609


“Isn’t it funny how that logic went out the window when the government took away their freedom of movement 15 years ago?”

Excuse me?

What part of “…provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare…”, seems illogical to you.

Slippery slope my ass.

Rocky Marks

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 26, 2016 1:32 PM
Comment #405610

I think there is some confusion. My comment #405608 illustrates the hypocrisy of the right which takes a liberal position on gun rights, but illiberal ones on a host of other issues such as voting rights, freedom of movement, etc…

Posted by: Warren Porter at June 26, 2016 2:05 PM
Comment #405611

Warren,

“I think there is some confusion.”

Sarcasm doesn’t seem to play well in print.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 26, 2016 2:09 PM
Comment #405613

All I can say is that if a someone has a right to buy a gun, surely they have the right to board a plane. The safety of the rest of us be damned.

Posted by: Warren Porter at June 26, 2016 3:06 PM
Comment #405617

“As of June 2016 the Terrorist Watch List is estimated to contain over 2,484,442 records, consisting of 1,877,133 individual identities.”

…the ACLU’s position is that the government’s current redress process—the procedure by which listed individuals can petition for removal from the list—does not meet the requirements of the Constitution’s Due Process Clause because the process does not “provide meaningful notice of the reasons our clients are blacklisted, the basis for those reasons, and a hearing before a neutral decision-maker.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List

My Liberal Pals on WB are in agreement with us Conservatives that every citizen is entitled to due Process and presumed innocence until proven guilty.

Why are the Libbies so anxious to crucify those whose names appear on a list compiled by bureaucrats and who have little or no recourse to be removed from that list?

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 26, 2016 3:55 PM
Comment #405618


“As of June 2016 the Terrorist Watch List is estimated to contain over 2,484,442 records, consisting of 1,877,133 individual identities.”

Still less than 1% of the total population.

“who have little or no recourse to be removed from that list?”

So the smartest thing to do according to our erstwhile friends on the right is nothing, which if we look to the Congress elected by the right, is pretty much all they’re good at.

As I said before “the good of the many…”

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 26, 2016 4:15 PM
Comment #405619

Rocky…I don’t know what the “smartest” thing to do is right now…do You?

For certain I know that the dumbest thing to do is to trample on our Constitutional Rights and Guarantees of individual liberty and freedom.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 26, 2016 4:18 PM
Comment #405620

As I said, the good of the many always outweigh the good of the few.

Rocky

Really Rocky? That is your opinion but certainly has no Constitutional or legal basis.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 26, 2016 4:21 PM
Comment #405621
quote textWhy are the Libbies so anxious to crucify those whose names appear on a list compiled by bureaucrats and who have little or no recourse to be removed from that list?

Were these people not already “crucified” when their right to fly was taken away? Honestly, it is astonishing to see both ideologies express hypocrisy on this issue. 12 years ago, liberals condemned the no-fly list.

Posted by: Warren Porter at June 26, 2016 4:26 PM
Comment #405622

“Were these people not already “crucified” when their right to fly was taken away?”

Yes…of course.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 26, 2016 4:30 PM
Comment #405623

So, will you join me in supporting the restoration of these people’s right to fly?

Posted by: Warren Porter at June 26, 2016 4:36 PM
Comment #405624

Warren, I support their right to “due process” and speedy restoration of all rights to fly.

I do not now, and never have; trusted government “blacklists” based upon nothing more than suspicion, bureaucratic incompetence, or political punishment.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 26, 2016 4:44 PM
Comment #405625

I can agree with that. Too bad people like you didn’t make much of a fuss 15 years ago when these lists first became prominent.

Posted by: Warren Porter at June 26, 2016 5:43 PM
Comment #405626

“For certain I know that the dumbest thing to do is to trample on our Constitutional Rights and Guarantees of individual liberty and freedom.”

Not even 6 months ago the right was crapping the bed because isis was coming to a grade school near you to influence “the children”.
And speaking of “Constitutional Rights”, where were you when it was suggested that the Muslim population should be put under observation… just to prove their loyalty.

Seems your patriotism only goes just so far.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 26, 2016 5:54 PM
Comment #405627

Warren…must you always be so fu*king smug?

Many errors have been made by our government over the years when fear ruled over common sense.

Is your judgement infallible Warren?

Most of us work for a living and have families and other interests in life beyond the politics of the day. We don’t all have the luxury or desire to follow every “tit and “tattle” that comes daily from Washington.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 26, 2016 5:55 PM
Comment #405628

Rocky, your remarks and questions are so disjointed that it is impossible to respond.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 26, 2016 5:57 PM
Comment #405629

Royal, the questions were rhetorical.

I am quite sure we all already know where you stand.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 26, 2016 6:06 PM
Comment #405761

Stunts, votes for show only (Obamacare anyone?), showboating in general… not the proprietary tactics of any one party. So???

The thing is, someone is doing something that they think will save a few lives. I’m in. I’ll give ‘em props. What else is there to do… NOTHING?? That is EXACTLY what the other party is doing.

When the American people are tired of their children dying, we will take care of the problem. So, sell away…. guns in every pocket. Tombstone, Deadwood, OK Corral gives way to NYC, LA, and soon to your hometown. I get it. YOU are a GOOD GUY WITH A GUN.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: LibRick at July 2, 2016 9:54 PM
Comment #405783

Good luck with what?
We respect the 2nd Amendment. We have most of the guns and ammo, most of us are armed, but yet we live in relative peace with one another.

We aren’t the one’s with the problems.

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