Senator Manchin Spits at the Constitution

Everyone is using Orlando to blame someone else for the terrorist attack. Even Senator McCain, who walked back his comments on Obama yesterday. The only one who has. Some still won’t call it a terrorist attack, but rather label it a hate-crime shooting. And those that do so - following Obama’s lead to avoid at all costs using words like radical jihadist terrorism - often have been taking it a step further, and laying the blame on anyone who does not actively and loudly support gay marriage, transgender bathrooms, and oppose religious liberty. A tipping of the scales against the religious freedoms of Christians, precisely speaking.

As if a politically correct Justice had shifted her blindfold slightly to cast a wary and hostile eye for any sign of the Cross of Calvary. And to tip the scales firmly against those of faith. Christians and those of the Jewish faith only please.

Blame has been apportioned to the NRA as well. But it goes further than debates over what kind of rifle Omar Mateen used and what a background check could have done had it been done in accordance with proposed changes. Democrat Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia - a gun-control advocate to say the least - came right and blamed due process.

Yes, your constitutional rights - for example the first, second and fifth amendments - are to blame for Orlando. And Joe Manchin has a point. No one in North Korea, for example, can walk into a gun store, present appropriate identification, undergo a background check, and purchase a weapon. Anyone who tried to acquire one on the black market would be jailed and tortured to death. Perhaps by the security forces throwing them in a cage with rabid dogs, one of the rumored techniques the regime has used on their own elite members.

America rests on the foundation of due process as detailed in the constitution. It's what makes America function. And what makes it a unique exception among nations of this conflicted world. And it is the only way to find that difficult balance between security and freedom that terrorism is forcing America and other Western nations to seek.

Due process is also the only way to move forward, beyond blaming your favorite target for the terrorist attack in Orlando. It is why David Ignatius' absurd piece in the WaPo suggesting that the Islamic State is somehow also Trump's fault can be countered with the argument that Trump - for all his blustery, sometimes racist, and provocative muckracking - was demanding due process for refugees from Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East.

Yes, due process, understood as fair treatment through the normal judicial system. Not a blank check to enter America with no scrutiny at all. Due process runs the other way as well. Something the left's militant screeching, inside and outside the courts, has deafened our ears to.

And David Ignatius' appeasement philosophy towards Islam - held by some within the military and intelligence communities unfortunately - is a dead-wrong perspective used to justify a useless critique that attempts to link Trump to Orlando. ISIL's vision of subduing several continents and imposing a caliphate has been brewing for long before ISIL itself came into existence. Orlando is a manifestation of that hate-filled scheme. And its causes lie within that hatred that has expressed itself clearly and consistently. To blame America's Constitution - which is what Senator Manchin has essentially done - is to spit at the freedoms that protect America from that very hatred.

Posted by Keeley at June 17, 2016 2:30 PM
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Looks like someone got the memo that the WaPo is a bad, bad newspaper and should be shunned. Typical.

Posted by: Speak4all at June 17, 2016 2:34 PM
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“It’s An Honor To Continue Being Valued Over Countless Human Lives” by an AR-!%

I don’t want to get too sentimental or anything, but it really means the world to me how often you as Americans, through your words and your actions, make it known that I am more important to you than the lives of your fellow citizens.

You see, I’m just a humble lightweight, magazine-fed semi-automatic rifle; I never expected this kind of outpouring of affection. But time and time again, you’ve shown me how much I matter to you. To see so many people—people who could be working to protect and care for human lives—actively devoting their time and energy to making sure I’m the one who’s protected and cared for instead—it’s beyond touching.

Don’t think I haven’t noticed all this. Rarely a month goes by without all of you pausing to weigh me against a certain number of lives—often a dozen or more—and quickly deciding I’m more worthwhile.

And here’s the thing: It’s not just one life that I’m considered more valuable than. And it’s not 10 lives, either. It’s not even 49 lives. It’s many, many hundreds of lives! Including children’s! Each day that I’m here and they’re not is another affirmation that you consider me more valuable, more sacred, more inviolable than all of them. Frankly, I’m not even sure what I’ve done to deserve such incredible treatment.

I can’t imagine it was always easy to hold an 8-pound aluminum-and-synthetic firearm in higher regard than the lives of your fellow citizens—after all, these are good people with rich experiences and families and dreams—but this country has always managed to find a way to put me first. Sure, there was that difficult decade beginning in 1994 when you decided that the lives of your friends, neighbors, and loved ones were maybe a little more important than I was. But you all responded in the best way possible in 2004: You were given the straightforward choice between me and untold numbers of innocent people’s lives, and you said resoundingly, “We’ll take the civilian version of a military weapon.”

And believe me, you’ve more than made it up to me in the years since. How many times in the past few years have you directly compared my worth against that of individuals who were, until recently, living, breathing, and experiencing life, and arrived at the determination that I’m number one? To be honest, I’ve kind of lost count.

I can’t imagine you’ll be altering your priorities anytime soon. So I just want to reiterate how truly grateful I am to the millions of you out there who regularly jump into action at the merest suggestion that any human life might be more valuable than I am, and who stand up proudly and say, “No, this particular device is far, far more important than someone’s child, than someone’s spouse, than someone’s parent.”

The Onion

Posted by: phx8 at June 17, 2016 5:56 PM
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The family of Eugene Stoner, who invented the AR-15, has even spoken out about what the AR-15 was meant to do. Didn’t we already have this same problem with Tommy guns after WWI?

Some still won’t call it a terrorist attack, but rather label it a hate-crime shooting.
I call it a reaction to Drumpf and his nonsense. It’s only a terrorist attack if you’re on the same side as the killer, believing his nonsense. Posted by: ohrealy at June 17, 2016 6:45 PM
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It was both a terrorist attack and a hate-crime shooting and the irrational act of a mentally ill person. The whole claim the killer made about ISIS seemed like an afterthought- he literally called it in- although his religious upbringing no doubt contributed to the murderer’s self-loathing of his own nature.

In the meantime, the idea that the 2nd amendment means a mentally ill person with a history of domestic violence, a person who has already been interviewed by the FBI and at one time placed on the terrorist watch list, should be able to go out and buy an AR-15, simply makes no sense whatsoever. None.

Posted by: phx8 at June 17, 2016 6:55 PM
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Italian TV is having fun with Drumpf, mostly in English in this one:

the subtitles translate “the poorly educated” as “la gente ignorante”.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 17, 2016 7:44 PM
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It is not surprising that phx8 would post an “Onion” article featuring a gun with feelings. Every good Libbie knows that guns kill; not people.

There are those among us who are willing to deny gun ownership to all in recompense for the sins of the few.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 18, 2016 4:01 PM
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Here’s the link I tried to post;

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 18, 2016 7:23 PM
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Trump wants to meet with the NRA and convince them people on the terrorist watch list should not be able to purchase AR-15’s.

To quote RF: “Go Trump.”

Posted by: phx8 at June 18, 2016 8:19 PM
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Drumpf probably doesn’t think that things exist until he gets himself involved. We’ll see if he manages to alienate the NRA as well as everyone else.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 19, 2016 4:40 PM
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Problem is, Trump has been on both sides of nearly every issue. He doesn’t seem to care about ideology at all. He just blurts out whatever pops into his mind at the time. He is against gun control and loves the NRA. Then, he favors it and will meet the NRA to convince them. On some issues, like Libya or the minimum wage, he can take several positions in a matter of days.

I’ve always thought the way a candidate organizes and runs their campaign is a good measure of how they will perform as president. They tend to govern the way they campaign. Obama was a superb campaigner and a highly competent president. Hillary Clinton has already proved to be an outstanding organizer. Her ability to unify the party was impressive, her fund raising a juggernaut, her use of surrogates strong, and her ability to focus and stay on message has been consistent. This might be the most formidable campaign organization any of us have ever seen. Trump, on the other hand, has almost no campaign organization. There is no discipline, no staying on message, no effective use of surrogates, virtually nothing that suggests a candidate will make a good president; in fact, just the opposite.

Obama’s most recent approval rating is 53%. He won re-election by 4 points with an approval rating in the mid 40’s. Hillary Clinton is polling anywhere from 7 to 12 points ahead of Trump, with no sign of her letting up.

Posted by: phx8 at June 19, 2016 5:08 PM
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The word today in Forbes is that the Rpblcns have already given up on Trump, and are focusing on trying to pass a long term budget with severe spending reductions.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 19, 2016 5:14 PM
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That is the only sensible thing for the GOP to do- punt Trump, and play prevent defense. Legislating budgets cuts will not help much though. Filibusters will kill it in the Senate, and Obama can always veto. There is very little the GOP can do, other than focus spending down ticket. The Senate will almost certainly go over to the Democrats- that was always a foregone conclusion because of the Senate math- but now it is looking like the House might even flip- a possibility almost everyone would have dismissed just a year ago.

Posted by: phx8 at June 19, 2016 5:28 PM
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Trump fired his campaign manager.

Like I said, his inability to create an effective organization for a general election is a good indicator he would be a terrible president.

Posted by: phx8 at June 20, 2016 2:42 PM
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I still say Trump thinks he can do what Berlusconi did if he becomes the owner of the GOP. He could keep running for years, but what will be left of the party. It could splinter, but so could the Dems.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 20, 2016 6:01 PM
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Now they’re talking about having favorite sons run for POTUS in several states, so that Trump won’t be on the top of the ticket and damage other people further down. Since none of these people can win, they would be handing the election to HRC.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 20, 2016 9:30 PM
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That is actually a very interesting idea. I’m pretty sure the Republican grown-ups in the room have already decided Trump is going to lose big, and they do not want to lose their jobs because of him, so they will try to come up with ways to avoid their impending doom. But it might be too late for this strategy. Some state deadlines have already passed.

The fractured Italian parliamentary political system produced Berlusconi. It is interesting that a fractured GOP primary process produced a candidate like Trump. It took a large field of weak candidates. At the same time it took a loud-mouthed buffoon shouting over everyone else to capture the media’s interest.

Posted by: phx8 at June 20, 2016 10:18 PM
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An “illegal alien” from the UK was trying to get close enough to assassinate Trump in Las Vegas, after waiting 9 hours in line. He is apparently autistic and has previously attempted suicide. He was planning to die in the attempt.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 21, 2016 3:15 PM
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So the headlines are all about our 2nd amendment rights, conservatives are up in arms while their conservatives/fascist brethren on the SCOTUS continue stripping our 4th amendment rights with their latest decision. Yet conservatives don’t seem to care in the least, why is that?

Posted by: j2t2 at June 21, 2016 11:07 PM
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Good question, j2t2. Second Amendment advocates frequently cite the necessity of an armed citizenry to counter the power of a tyrannical government. Yet, at the same time, they could care less about erosion of the Fourth Amendment giving increased power to the enforcement arm of the government.

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