Diamond Donald, Bigmouth Bernie, and Wipe-It-Clean Hillary: a Family Story

Just as the Democratic Party brings its firepower to bear on Bernie Sanders … No. Here’s a better way to describe it: just as the Democratic Commission holds a private meeting with Bernie Bigmouth Sanders to convince their brother that he’s way outta line - maybe a further meeting in Vegas with Harry The Hook Reid would help convince him - there is talk of insurrection in the GOP family.

Members of Teddy Tea Bags Cruz’s outfit are grumbling it seems. They are not happy at all with Diamond Donald’s comments on their Mexican cousins, along with a whole list of disrespecting grievances that have been accumulating over the past year or so. There’s threats of delegate persuasion in Cleveland, which is next to a big lake, and maybe even a brewing (maybe that should be steeping: it’s Teddy Tea Bags after all) revolt.

So things are shaping up to be just a little edgy come later in the summer. Whether the Democratic Convention in Philadelphia or the GOP gathering in Cleveland turns out to be the edgier one is hard to say. But Barack The Executive Obama will be doing his best to make Bernie an offer. And Bernie better not refuse it, if he wants to be anything more than a has-been senator from Vermont. And Barack The Executive has to keep Hillary Wipe-it-Clean Clinton happy as well.

The problem is, we still have two insurrections. One in full swing in the shape of Bernie supporters. The other in a somewhat more neutral wait-and-see mode in the shape of Trump's hard core of supporters. And either or both groups could cause a fuss at their respective conventions. Heck, some of Bernie's supporters may very well be at both conventions. As in lining the sidewalks in Cleveland to harass or even assault Trump supporters.

And that's a nightmare scenario for both parties. Because if the type of attacks that San Diego and San Jose saw at recent Trump gatherings happen in Cleveland, there may be a Chicago-68-style riot. But one with the Cleveland police and security forces as desperate referees of an all out brawl.

Does Trump want that? If he is serious about making the party "proud" of him, he needs to do everything he can to assure that Cleveland is as smooth a convention as possible. Whether Sanders supporters and other radicals are taunting his supporters on the outside of the Quicken Loans Arena. And whether a posse of Cruz supporters are using every procedural trick to siphon off delegates inside the Quicken Arena.

Posted by Keeley at June 9, 2016 3:39 PM
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Comment #405198

The conventions are obsolete because of the way the primary/caucus system works. It’s meant to be that way. We know who the nominees are supposed to be, so all the media can hope for is that somebody will stir up something newsworthy. The media has been milking this system for so many months, but when it gets to the conventions, they don’t want to cover the boring bits. The interesting news today is that Drumpf is meeting with the Kochs, because he’s no Berlusconi, and can’t finance his campaign. He’s about to be confronted with real reality instead of a structured reality show.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 9, 2016 4:29 PM
Comment #405207

Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Obama, Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and Sanders- one after another, a unified front of Democrats are zeroing in on Trump. They completely dominated the news cycle. This will continue throughout the weekend. Trump telegraphed that he would give a speech Monday attacking HRC. In basketball, telegraphing a pass usually leads to a turnover. Unlike Trump, who was completely flat-footed when Hillary gave her campaign speech on foreign policy, the Democrats will be prepared for Trump’s speech on Monday. This should be fun.

Meanwhile, Trump continues struggling with a divided party. Some flatly refuse to support him. Some support him, but will not endorse him (whatever that means). Very few have come out to give him enthusiastic support.

Seems a lot of Republicans get a little queasy when their nominee uses his platform to launch an attack against a federal judge for his own personal reasons, says the judge a hater and biased because of his Mexican heritage, and when informed his attack is textbook racism, doubles and triples down on it.

Let’s see what the polls look like next week or so. If Trump is down by single digits, the party will swallow its pride and sense of decency and accept the beat down that is coming. If Trump is behind by double digits, Katie bar the door.

Posted by: phx8 at June 9, 2016 10:16 PM
Comment #405215

Right now polls are showing HRC up 3 to 8%. Account for a 4% bias in Rasmussen polls (they don’t account for cell phone users), and the average will be closer to 8%.

Conservative columnist and George W Bush speechwriter said it well:

“The Trump campaign pushes the idea “that foreigners and outsiders are exploiting, infiltrating and adulterating the real America. How is attacking the impartiality of a judge worse than characterizing undocumented Mexicans as invading predators intent on raping American women? Or pledging to keep all Muslim migrants out of the country? Or citing the internment of Japanese citizens during World War II as positive precedent?”

This description is over the top, but earns an ‘A’ for creativity:

“Having tied themselves to Trump’s anchor, the protests of GOP leaders are merely the last string of bubbles escaping from their lungs.”

He concludes:
Without a passion for universal human dignity and worth — the commitment to a common good in which the powerless are valued — politics is a spoils system for the winners. It degenerates into a way for one group to gain advantage over another. And for Trump in particular, politics seems to be a way for white voters to take back social power following the age of Obama.”
(Quotes from the article on DailyKos).

Posted by: phx8 at June 10, 2016 1:19 PM
Comment #405216

Right on cue…
Poll from Kansas. Hillary up 7% over Trump. And remember, KS is one of the reddest states of the union. Of course, this could be an outlier. Let’s see if more start showing these kinds of numbers.

Posted by: phx8 at June 10, 2016 3:04 PM
Comment #405218

That’s interesting coming from KS, but IMO it’s too early to tell much from polls. I still say that HRC’s biggest problem is Bernie. The aged revolutionary doesn’t want to give up or give in to reality. I thought BHO’s endorsement of HRC was a little lukewarm as reported, until I saw the video of it.

On the right wing side, apparently Glenn Beck has been suspended for someone on his “show”, wherever that is, suggesting he hoped for an assassination of Trump if he becomes POTUS and behaves the way he talks.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 10, 2016 3:30 PM
Comment #405219

It is definitely early to put too much stock in any one poll, but the one from KS does raise eyebrows. KS also has some issues specific to that state. A supermajority of Republicans in the legislature and their governor, Brownbeck, passed the conservative dream agenda into law. They cut taxes dramatically, and it tanked the economy. Now they are facing a huge deficit- surprise, surprise- and their debt has been downgraded. The GOP wanted to cut back public education so far that it would have violated the state’s constitution to adequately fund it, so the KS court ruled against the cuts. Right now, the state is a financial catastrophe. The Republicans tried to blame Obama, but no other states bordering it are having such problems.

Posted by: phx8 at June 10, 2016 4:18 PM
Comment #405220

Illinois has the lowest credit rating of any state, according to our local media. We have a Rpblcn governor who refuses everything the legislature suggests other than giving in to him. We’ve been without a budget for two years. They’re talking about not paying out lottery winnings again, and not opening some public schools in the fall. So what you are saying about KS sounds familiar. I guess this is what the Rpblcn governors want.

Posted by: ohrealy at June 10, 2016 4:49 PM
Comment #405227

Hilary is going to be crushed under the weight of all the scandals, and the fact that most people find her personally repulsive, and unlikable. If the dems don’t replace her she will be routed by Trump come November.

He reflects what people are concerned with. Fixing illegal immigration, and securing the border, fixing the trade imbalance, dealing with that POS called NAFTA, and rebuilding our military so that we are no longer laughed at by our enemies as well as our allies.

Our military is in shambles and our enemies know and will capitalize on it every chance they get. This administration has been a complete disaster, and embarrassment for our country. We cannot survive another 4 to 8 years of this foolishness. That is exactly what the dems represent.

Posted by: dbs at June 11, 2016 8:34 AM
Comment #405228

ohrealy


“Illinois has the lowest credit rating of any state, according to our local media. We have a Rpblcn governor who refuses everything the legislature suggests other than giving in to him.”

Lol, sounds like our incompetent president of the last 7 1/2 years. Give me what I want or I’ll veto it shut down the gov’t, and blame republicans. Crocodile tears, nothing more.

Posted by: dbs at June 11, 2016 9:14 AM
Comment #405229

dbs,

I don’t know who writes your material, but I think you should take your act out on the road to work out the kinks.
Some of it is damn funny, other parts are just plain sad.

All Donald Trump has proven is that PT Barnum’s theorem was mostly correct (it was only off by half), and for conservatives, hyperbole is much more believable than actual facts.

Who knew the right would give up it’s dearly held principles for a vulgar talking yam that can’t even speak in complete sentences.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 11, 2016 10:12 AM
Comment #405231
most people find her personally repulsive
In polls conducted by The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy! If you look at HRC and see anything negative, you are a victim of brainwashing, and too lazy to think for yourself. Now Go Take Out The Garbage! NOW! She even has to be pushed to say anything negative about Drumpf, the worst candidate in history, until “his” party (Forza Italia), comes up with someone even worse. Seriously, who thought they could outdo W? Polls this morning are putting her into a double digit lead, which will lead to more insanity from the multipolar Drumpf, out of his depth away from structured reality. Posted by: ohrealy at June 11, 2016 12:10 PM
Comment #405233

dbs,
You do realize, don’t you, that the government of North Korea came out in favor of Trump? They think he will keep America out of a war between the North and South because Trump suggested South Korea and Japan should acquire their own nuclear weapons. Most people think nuclear proliferation is a bad idea.

The US is viewed more favorably now than when Obama took office by every country except Russia, Israel, and Pakistan. Russia did not like the way we tanked their economy over Ukraine. The Pakistanis never got over the US killing Bin Laden on their turf.

There is no metric showing the US military is in shambles, and no one has made aggressive moves against us, with the exception of ISIS, which has been considerably reduced in Syria, Iraq, and (news out today) Libya. They do not represent a threat to our national security.

Our relations with our allies are strong.

Trump, however, had his visit to Israel cancelled by the Israelis after his comments on banning Muslim immigration. The British Prime Minister called Trump’s ban “divisive, stupid, and wrong, and the Mayor of London called Trump “ignorant.” The Vice Chancellor of Germany called Trump “a threat to peace.”

When asked about a VP pick for Trump, the Senate Majority Leader, conservative Republican Mitch McConnell, said: “”He needs someone highly experienced and very knowledgeable because it’s pretty obvious he doesn’t know a lot about the issues.”

Not knowing a lot about the issues is generally not considered a compliment.

The conservative GOP nominee from 2012, Mitt Romney, called Trump racist, bigoted, xenophobic, misogynist and temperamentally unsuited for the White House.

While Trump supporters accuse Hillary Clinton of everything under the sun without ever proving anything or even formally charging her, Donald Trump WILL go on trial November 28th for fraud. He will have to make court appearances in CA prior to his trial.

Have fun with that.

The latest Ipsos/Reuters poll shows HRC up by 11%.

Have fun with that.

Posted by: phx8 at June 11, 2016 2:50 PM
Comment #405240

Rocky

What hyperbole would that be ?

phx8

The investigation is a criminal investigation.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/10/white-house-confirms-criminal-probe-over-clinton-emails-shreds-campaign-claim.html

Will she be indicted ? Don’t know. No doubt the administration is looking for any avenue it can find to avoid that happening. She’s got big problems. You can be dismissive if you like, but it doesn’t change anything.

“The conservative GOP nominee from 2012, Mitt Romney, called Trump racist, bigoted, xenophobic, misogynist and temperamentally unsuited for the White House.”

Who cares. He like a lot of the establishment republicans don’t want things to change. They’ve been mostly spineless when it comes to dealing with Obama, and doing what they were given the majority to do. Trump will be the nominee, if they try something sneaky at the convention it WILL blow up in their faces. I didn’t vote for Trump, but if he is true to his word on immigration, trade, the 2nd amend and so on I will be very happy with him. The party establishment cry babies need to shut their noise holes and accept that they aren’t going to get their way this time.

Posted by: dbs at June 12, 2016 9:20 AM
Comment #405241

dbs,

“What hyperbole would that be?”

Seriously?

This is from “the American Conservative”

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/donald-trump-mainstream-conservative/

“The American Right has become willfully disengaged from its fellow citizens thanks to a wonderful virtual-reality machine in which conservatives, both elite and grassroots, can believe anything they wish, no matter how at odds it is with reality.

They can wake up in the morning and read email newsletters filled with nonsense from the likes of Dick Morris along with false promises of “secret cancer cures.” As they make their breakfast, they can flip through websites utterly devoid of reporting and data analysis predicting that Democrats are on the run and Hillary Clinton is sure to be indicted. During the work day, they can turn on the radio and listen to Christian nationalists like Bryan Fischer tell them how the Founding Fathers intended to provide religious freedom only to Christians.”

Sound familiar?

From “Driftglass”

http://driftglass.blogspot.com/

“At the voter level, the Tea Party is a movement that purports to be furious about government spending — only the reality is that the vast majority of its members are former Bush supporters who yawned through two terms of record deficits and spent the past two electoral cycles frothing not about spending but about John Kerry’s medals and Barack Obama’s Sixties associations. The average Tea Partier is sincerely against government spending — with the exception of the money spent on them. In fact, their lack of embarrassment when it comes to collecting government largesse is key to understanding what this movement is all about…”

Need I say more?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at June 12, 2016 1:42 PM
Comment #405342
Hilary is going to be crushed under the weight of all the scandals, and the fact that most people find her personally repulsive, and unlikable. If the dems don’t replace her she will be routed by Trump come November.

No she won’t dbs. But that is the problem. Trump is the repub version of the anti establishment candidate but is already selling out to the money men that lead the country. He appears to be a fraud at this point but that isn’t a problem for conservatives it is for the resat of us.

Clinton on the other hand is the establishment and the dems should be ashamed they are so late to pick up on the problems facing the country and the discontent brewing. Instead they are seeking contributions from the money men controlling them and their votes. Who cares if Clinton wins the difference between Trump and Clinton is minuscule.

Gay rights, an immigration policy that fits the needs of the country today,the culture wars and sensible gun control may be issues but they aren’t the big dogs despite dems in general. Clinton will only appease, Trump will screw things up to the point we have no choice but to pay attention. Hopefully the voters aren’t so brain dead they cannot figure that out.

Posted by: j2t2 at June 16, 2016 12:01 AM
Comment #406680

It is definitely early to put too much stock in any one poll,
but the fact that most people find Hilary personally repulsive, and unlikable I support trump
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