Gohmert vs. Boehner Speaker Challenge

Yesterday, Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-Texas) publically challenged House Speaker John Boehner for a new Congress as Speaker igniting political emotions from all sides. While some GOPs are joking that Boehner will get the Democrat vote, it could cause more problems than solutions for the GOP.


This is a risky move for Gohmert as a Republican because he's siting the pitfalls and challenging his own party. After the November elections, the GOP has been put into an advantageous position, however it can't be denied that the GOP could use any power they can conjure up for the upper hand.

Speaker Boehner's recent moves with the CRomnibus bill and amnesty are fueling the #itstimeforboehnerto go movement, and Gohmert's challenge as Speaker for a new Congress is stirring the pot. However for a lot of Republican's Gohmert's actions have good intentions. Boehner has certainly misled or deceived Republicans as Speaker of the House and the most recent CRomnibus actions are unforgivable.

There's still party loyalty involved and Gohmert's move may not be the best play because if Republicans wanted Boehner gone it could've happened last year. Gohmert sites "years of broken promises, it's time for a change," as his reason for the challenge. He's not wrong.

But Boehner supporters like Rep. Tom Cole said, "anyone who wanted to run could have run in the conference elections and none of them did. So by going out and not voting for the conference choice, you're not attacking John Boehner, you're really attacking the Republican conference that you say you're part of." He's not wrong either.

The Boehner, Obama, Pelosi trio has fabricated into a lethal combination. Republicans get excited because Obama doesn't have the backup and supporters he had 6 years ago. But it doesn't make it easy for former Obama supporters to support the GOP if a fellow Republican is challenging it's own party. While Obama is losing his audience, it's not a good time for the House to fall apart just after taking back the reigns in Congress. Will Gohmert's challenge benefit the House and GOP? Is it time for Boehner to go?

Posted by bigtex at January 5, 2015 8:10 PM
Comments
Comment #387055

Boehner is a hack, he needs to go.

Posted by: dbs at January 6, 2015 7:34 AM
Comment #387056

Louie Gohmert! The moron! I hope he does it, cause then congress could spend all its time chasing Muslin Brotherhood members out of the OBama white house. An un-AMerican activities hearing to get all of our elected and appointed representatives in government to pledge loyalty oaths to Grover Norquist. Yep just what we need leading our elected representatives in Congress.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 6, 2015 9:09 AM
Comment #387057

Oh! Good! More name calling from the left. And people wonder why WatchBlog has lost readers.

Democratics don’t have any room to talk. The Republican party will hold itself accountable and this is an example of that.

It’s a far cry from the blind obedience you get from the left.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 6, 2015 10:52 AM
Comment #387059

Weary, I would like to be able to say it was all in good fun but it appears it was closer to the truth than I first thought.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2013/04/30/gohmert-brings-the-crazy/

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Louie_Gohmert

Why are you so PC on this issue, have you been hired by the PC police to get us leftist that dare criticize?

The Republican party will hold itself accountable and this is an example of that

Accountable yet guys like this are still in office! Really Weary the thought of Gomer leading the HoR is laughable to actually consider it for a second proves the Repubs do not hold themselves accountable to any standards.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 6, 2015 11:25 AM
Comment #387060


Oops my bad,
“Really Weary the thought of Gomer leading”

should be

“Really Weary the thought of Gohmert leading”

wow talk about a Freudian slip.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 6, 2015 11:28 AM
Comment #387061

Your links show your political opinion is heavily photoshopped as well, j2t2.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 6, 2015 11:43 AM
Comment #387062

Well, as Louie might say, “You guys seem to be casting aspersions on each others asparagus”.

Posted by: Speak4all at January 6, 2015 11:59 AM
Comment #387063

Whoa, Speak4all, you’ve been holding onto that for a year!

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 6, 2015 12:19 PM
Comment #387064

Yes, it is time for Boehner to go. He has no spine and his support for the continued leftist movement of the country, is only helping to further destroy it.

Todays Republicans are nothing but yesterdays spineless democrats.

Posted by: kctim at January 6, 2015 12:21 PM
Comment #387066

The polls are in. 100% of late night talk show hosts and comedians are in favor of electing anyone other than John Boehner as Speaker of the House. They have network support as executives have determined that half of their writing staffs can be reduced if any of the other candidates that are running can be elected, they see this as a cost cutting measure and fully support that outcome.

In other breaking news, this just in. John Boehner is expected to hold his position as SOH. Also water is still wet, the sun will rise in the east and Teapartyics will be outraged at something.

Posted by: Speak4all at January 6, 2015 2:07 PM
Comment #387067

It takes guts to run against the current leadership. I applaud those that did. They stood up to intense pressure and voted their constituency and conscience.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 6, 2015 3:54 PM
Comment #387068

Royal flush,
Running against the current leadership is foolish and just bad politics. It is, in a word, dumb. Bucking the leadership means no plum committee assignments, no leverage on legislation, and no money for projects within the home district. In addition, when the time comes to eliminate a military base or government office or institute a cut, guess whose distict is first in line?

Really. It is bad politics. If politicians want to be ideologues rather than govern, they should forget Congress and just do talk radio, or stand on a street corner wearing a sandwich board sign and rail against socialism and the UN.

Posted by: phx8 at January 6, 2015 4:18 PM
Comment #387069

phx8 knows this country is run from the government down to the people. He knows it’s no longer a government of the people, by the people.

He understands it’s “for the people”, though. Food stamps for the people. Phones for the people. Earned Income Credits for the people. Free utilities for the people.

We should all get in line for free government goodies. You know, we should all get “our fair share”.

Why do I get the impression phx8 and Speak4all can’t wipe the smile off their faces?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 6, 2015 4:27 PM
Comment #387070

Well, WW, we wouldn’t want everyone getting free stuff, would we? Let’s see if the Texans still are singing the same tune next year, when the state enters a recession due to collapsing oil prices. Oil closed below $48 today. Let’s see if Texans reject food stamp for the 100,000 people who are going to lose their jobs. Let’s see how Texans feel about not being able to pay for utilities, for heat or air conditioning, when the state economy suffers negative growth, even as the rest of the country booms.

This is going to happen, and people with Congressmen like Louie are going to suffer the consequences for incompetent political skills.

Posted by: phx8 at January 6, 2015 4:43 PM
Comment #387071

Willie, pay no attention to the gloom and doomsters as I certainly don’t and I live in Texas.

I am not surprised that the lefties here don’t give a damn about principle…only political expediency.

Pity those who believe governing is about following the leader rather than the people who put them in office.

Anyone who understands the economic power of Texas would know we are a very diverse economy.

Only a dumb-ass believes there is a military base in the First Congressional District.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 6, 2015 5:00 PM
Comment #387072

RF,
I am aware TX has sought to diversify its economy since the last oil bust in the 80’s. The problem is that energy still represents 11% of the state economy, and with oil prices dropping by more than half, not even diversification will spare the state from some hard times- negative growth and 100,000 lay-offs. That’s not doom and gloom. It’s just being realistic.

Is compromise expediency? Because willingness to compromise is part and parcel of being a successful politician. The people who put a politician into office are a diverse lot in the first place. Representing the people does not mean representing the 51% who elected him or her. It means representing everyone in the district.

As for economic tough times, it will be even worse in North Dakota.

Posted by: phx8 at January 6, 2015 5:46 PM
Comment #387073

What was it phx8 said about conservatives predicting doom and gloom when Obama got elected?

I think he was complaining and saying conservatives were standing in the way, being obstructionists.

And what is phx8 doing now?

not even diversification will spare the state from some hard times- negative growth and 100,000 lay-offs.

That is doom and gloom. We all might as well give up, right phx8? Now that Republicans are back in charge it’s hopeless!

Actually, I’ll have to half-heartedly agree with you. Nothing has really, fundamentally changed. The same people are still in charge. They’ve just switched hats with each other.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 6, 2015 8:21 PM
Comment #387074

Well, perhaps something has changed. The left now has a scapegoat. Not really a change, but it will be easier for the media and the left to pin whatever happens on Republicans now.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 6, 2015 10:52 PM
Comment #387075

WW,
Doom and gloom? It’s just math.

And keep in mind, the misfortune for TX, ND, and other shale oil states is good fortune for all the others. Lower oil prices help the economy for most states in the short term- unless a state depends on shale oil production for revenues. But the Saudis aren’t doing this to help us. They want to maintain market share and US dependency on oil. I heard one source say the Saudis are still profitable at $11/bb. They are going to crush alternative energies, the electric car, and the shale oil producers. Something like 37/38 shale oil producers are already underwater, and the first Alberta tar sands company just went belly up.

And WW, you’ll be glad to know the GOP House just passed ‘dynamic scoring’ for the CBO. It requires the CBO to pretend tax cuts pay for themselves, and do not cause deficits. This way, when the GOP House passes tax cuts for its owners, corporations and billionaires, the GOP can pretend no one could foresee how their legislation could result in deficits and debt. Thank you, Supreme Court, for Citizens United! For corporations and billionaires that was money well spent!

Posted by: phx8 at January 6, 2015 11:35 PM
Comment #387076

And the point is, all those 100,000 people who are gainfully employed right now in the business of ‘drill, baby, drill’ are going to be unemployed soon.

They’re going to be “takers.”

They’re going to be part of the 47%.

And with a local economy that’s in a recession, it will be tough to find a new job. And yet, they are still going to want to eat. They will still have medical issues, but of course, TX does not extend Medicaid coverage to such people. They will not want to lose their homes.

Just waiting to hear what tune their fellow Texans sing.

And with Congressmen who have alienated their fellow Representatives and leadership, it will be even tougher. No one will want to help them help their constituents.

Not that they deserve help.

That’s the deal, right? Unemployed people are “takers.”

Guess Texans can always blame Obama for low oil prices.

Posted by: phx8 at January 7, 2015 12:16 AM
Comment #387109

So, the left want us to believe the increased production of oil in the US and Canada and the drop in prices has caught the oil industry off guard. What percent of petroleum products is used for gasoline compared to a myriad of other products? It’s silly to believe the drop in oil prices will hurt the US economy. The same people who are claiming the increased production of fossil fuels will cause gloom and doom to the US economy; are the same people who claimed, over the past few years, increased permits to produce fossil fuels would take at least 10 years to come to fruition. Which has turned out to be false. What happens when ISIS (ISIL) takes out the Saudi’s ability to produce or export oil? Can it happen? In todays volatile environment, the price of oil can be below $50 a barrel and tomorrow could be $150 a barrel. Today’s terrorist and murder of 12 people in France is an example of how dangerous the situation is, and whether we produce oil or don’t produce it, is not the point. We MUST have the ability to produce our own oil.

Posted by: Sam Jones at January 7, 2015 9:16 AM
Comment #387110

Sam Jones,
Oil is in everything, not just gasoline. No one believes the drop in oil prices will hurt the US economy. It will, however, harm a handful of states that depend on oil revenues. Almost every state will benefit. The states that will feel the pain are ND, TX, OK, and PA.

There seems to be some confusion about developing oil shale fields from scratch, which has a long time line and a high breakeven, versus the Saudis pumping large amounts of high quality oil from existing fields, which can have an impact in just weeks.

Can ISIS take out Saudi oil production?
No.

You write: “We MUST have the ability to produce our own oil.”
So you want government to socialize oil production? Because the ‘free’ market is saying US oil production is a money loser, so the US should stop producing. If the US keeps producing, we will do so at a loss. We will lose money. A lot of money. Who will pay for that? And why should we even consider it, when cleaner alternative energies are available which do not entangle us in foreign commitments, and address the issue of Global Warming?

Posted by: phx8 at January 7, 2015 12:00 PM
Comment #387111

Why do you people do that? Why do you take a simple statement and put words into someone elses mouth to make a totally unrelated point?

We MUST have the ability to produce our own oil.
So you want government to socialize oil production?

Where do you get that? It’s like saying we need government to manage the health care industry because if it doesn’t Grandma and her wheelchair are going to fly off the nearest cliff!

Was oil production too expensive before the ‘73 oil embargo?

Were oil companies going out of business before the ‘70’s? I don’t think so. In fact, gasoline was selling for about 35 cents a gallon before the embargo. Oil companies raised the price of domestic oil to match OPEC and the government had to apply a “windfall profits tax” to take the excessive profits away from them. Did the cost of production go up? NO! It didn’t. If it did there wouldn’t be a windfall profit, would there?


Posted by: Weary Willie at January 7, 2015 12:33 PM
Comment #387112

Weary, this isn’t 1973. So lets work this question of yours out. If a barrel of oil sells on the market for $50 a barrel and you can get it to market but it costs you $55 a barrel to do so how do you stay in business?

Should our government subsidize the oil producers for say $6 a barrel to keep them in business? If you say yes then you are socializing oil production just as phx8 said. If you don’t many will go under until such time the price of oil goes up.


phx8, I think Colorado, or at least certain parts of it will feel the effects of the drop in crude oil prices as well. The fastest GDP growing county in the country (as of Sep 2014), Weld County Colorado grew due to the oil work in the county and several other surrounding counties in northeast Colorado.
It wasn’t a total boom time as in North Dakota the past several years but it was growing towards a boom as oil producers and support companies moved into the area. Housing starts this spring will be telling as far as the economy here as building was strong the past 3 years.

While the growth has slowed recently it hasn’t completely stopped yet. Some here are saying they expect hiring to stop and even more consolidations of the companies that work for the oil producers. Some are going overseas for growth, or at least they were last year.

http://www.greeleytribune.com/news/13055407-113/growth-county-grew-nation

The point being the mindset has changed here from boom to worry but not yet bust which will effect the area as business will put the kibosh on hiring as the slow down continues. The good news of course is gas is below $2 here and in Nebraska is in the $1.70 range. We can drive more but we have fewer jobs to go to.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 7, 2015 12:55 PM
Comment #387113

..fewer jobs to go to.

What happened to that recovery Democratics were touting for the last 6 years?

You’re admitting that the recovery is totally oil based as C&J says repeatedly.

The left is so shallow they can’t even keep their own propaganda straight.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 7, 2015 1:27 PM
Comment #387114

Claiming it a misfortune for TX, ND, and other shale oil states because of dropping oil prices in SA is simply foolish. These states don’t own those wells. Texas can easily handle the loss from jobs that may be temporarily lost.

The good news in these states is that the resources are intact waiting to be utilized later for the benefit of the nation.

Would we claim it a misfortune for Detroit if Honda lowered prices to cause production decline in the US? NO! we would claim it illegal and pursue legal redress in the UN courts. Obama won’t do this with the Saudi’s however. I believe we all know why.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 7, 2015 4:15 PM
Comment #387115

The left is so shallow they can’t even keep their own propaganda straight.
Posted by: Weary Willie at January 7, 2015 1:27 PM

Thanks Weary…best one-liner in months.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 7, 2015 4:27 PM
Comment #387116
What happened to that recovery Democratics were touting for the last 6 years?

Weary are we speaking about the past 6 years or the present and future?

You’re admitting that the recovery is totally oil based as C&J says repeatedly.

No Weary what I am referencing is a small 3 county area in one state where oil cattle and farming are the main industries.

Not that the production of oil hasn’t helped the national economy short term it just wasn’t “totally oil based” as you suggest.

The left is so shallow they can’t even keep their own propaganda straight.

It must be hard to read what has been said and being left with this as your response Weary, I feel for you bud.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 7, 2015 5:23 PM
Comment #387117

j2t2,
If you can make heads or tails of the logic, you’re way ahead of me.

Posted by: phx8 at January 7, 2015 5:50 PM
Comment #387118

I beg your pardon, j2t2. I didn’t know North Dakota and Weld County Colorado were in Texas!

My bad!

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 7, 2015 6:53 PM
Comment #387119

Weary’s response to my comment “We MUST have the ability to produce our own oil”:

Why do you people do that? Why do you take a simple statement and put words into someone elses mouth to make a totally unrelated point?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 7, 2015 12:33 PM

You are correct Weary; there are some on the left who have lost all ability to reason. It is for this reason, I refuse to have a conversation with the idiot phx8. The key word in my comment was that we must have the “ABILITY” to produce oil. Producing oil and having the ability to produce oil, are two different things. Since new oil production is being done on private lands by private companies, I find it comical that the comment “government to socialize oil production” would even come into the conversation. How can you hold a conversation with an imbecile? At what point has Obama or his administration ever gotten involved in the production of fossil fuel? They have cut access to federal lands, they have cut the issuance of permits, they have worked tirelessly through the EPA to put companies out of business, but they have never worked to increase the production.

As far as ISIS ability to take out the “production or export” of Saudi oil…we have further ignorance of some leftist, who have divined through their crystal balls that this will never happen. I’m sure the French never thought a terrorist attack, resulting in the death of 12 people would ever happen. The left has no idea what ISIS is planning, as they have no idea how many terrorist are in the US. The left doesn’t even believe ISIS is a terrorist group…they believe they are simply criminals.

Posted by: Sam Jones at January 8, 2015 8:34 AM
Comment #387120

Wow, way to uphold the tenets of this blog by not criticizing the messenger but trying to discuss the message Sam Jones. You are certainly a very good example of the problem of most conservatives today, inept and unable to formulate any opinion without denigrating someone else. You and several other commenters here have no decency, do not understand why you are ridiculed and will continue to be the dimmest bulbs in the array. Congratulations on being able to present yourself as the buffoon that you are better than anyone else could do. Mission accomplished.

Posted by: Speak4all at January 8, 2015 10:01 AM
Comment #387121

Speak4all, I was going to suggest to Sam Jones that he not criticize the messenger. It is unfair and counter productive to denigrate the person when the message is so readily available for ridicule.

I don’t mind your criticizing the group as inept, but you are the pot calling the kettle black in your last comment. Do you even realize you are doing exactly what you accuse Sam Jones of doing when you say he is “the buffoon”, the “dimmest blub”?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 8, 2015 1:56 PM
Comment #387122
I find it comical that the comment “government to socialize oil production” would even come into the conversation.

I find it amusing you have no idea, Sam, that this could happen, especially with repubs/conservative running Congress. Now not necessarily the government taking over the means of production socialism but socialism as typically used by conservatives when referring to anything and everything that involves government. The kind of socialism where the people subsidize the oil producers like the bail out of the “to big to fail” banks and such.After all it is you and Weary telling us we “must have the ability to produce oil in this country”.

How can you hold a conversation with an imbecile?

It’s hard Sam trust me it hard but we do it. As an example you claim “they have worked tirelessly through the EPA to put companies out of business,” yet you haven’t shown us what companies you are referring to that have been put out of business by Obama working tirelessly to do so. SO can you show us specific examples of this or was this comment foolish?


Posted by: j2t2 at January 8, 2015 2:02 PM
Comment #387123

Oil & Gas Tax Provisions Are Not Subsidies For “Big Oil”

It would be a benefit to everyone if media outlets and their reporters would quit repeating Administration talking points on this issue, and instead engage in some real journalism on the subject.
Within days of being sworn in as the nation’s 44th President, Barack Obama ordered his staff to scour the tax code for any provision that was relevant to the oil and gas industry, and promptly began proposing them for repeal. The oil and gas industry has always been an easy target for political demagoguery, and that dynamic has played out repeatedly and consistently in this Administration.
It’s somewhat amusing given the reality that, as Harold Hamm told a recent congressional hearing, the oil and natural gas industry does not actually receive any tax “subsidies” from the federal government, but frustrating because pretty much no one in the news media ever reports on the subject accurately.
Posted by: Weary Willie at January 8, 2015 3:04 PM
Comment #387139

The left does have balls made of crystal. The proof is they shatter so easily. They are also so, so sensitive. They speak as if they were speaking of absolute truth. They are mistaken so easily. How does one say these no-truth statements and live so comfortably. The above statements are made as if yes and no, right and wrong are the same.
Amazing!!

Posted by: tom humes at January 9, 2015 4:00 PM
Comment #387146

Tom a whole paragraph yet nothing but nonsense, not one factual comment that contradicts the opinion of phx8 or myself. Not one intelligent comment, just gibberish from you! That I find Typical!

Posted by: j2t2 at January 9, 2015 4:35 PM
Comment #387154
The kind of socialism where the people subsidize the oil producers like the bail out of the “to big to fail” banks and such.

This is pure fantasy! This is a lie. You know the truth about this leftist fiction. Government subsidies do not give oil companies money.

Either you are intentionally misleading people with this bull, or you are giving credence to what Gruber is saying about the American people.

There is one fact in tom humes’ comment:

They are mistaken so easily.
Posted by: Weary Willie at January 9, 2015 5:40 PM
Comment #387157

Well Weary if I would have told you in 2007 that we were going to socialize losses incurred by big wall street banks and insurance companies you probably would have said the same thing. Yet looking back we can see it is the way things are done since Reagan and his S&L buddies got into the pockets of the rest of us after they had their crisis.

You should realize I’m not talking about whether the “tax breaks” are subsidies or not I’m talking about bailing companies to important to fail in the minds of many. The national oil producers not the international oil producers for the most part.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 9, 2015 6:37 PM
Comment #387158
The kind of socialism where the people subsidize the oil producers like the bail out of the “to big to fail” banks and such.


Where are the lists of oil producers that got bailed out, j2t2? National or otherwise, where is the list?

You can’t just throw shit against the wall and expect people to call it art.

Answer the question, j2t2.
Answer the question, j2t2.
Answer the question, j2t2.

This is probably how he’s been brainwashed into thinking oil companies got bailed out like the “too big to fail” banks.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/phony-big-oil-bailout-claims/

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 9, 2015 6:58 PM
Comment #387195

Weary, the red herring once again I see, you are wanting a list from the past although we are talking about the present and future! Pay attention man, read what was said.

I am tired of hearing all this crap. I have much more fun being sarcastic.

Well it certainly requires less effort than forming an opinion, on the issue, of one’s own.

Being aserbic and just plain nasty while being factual and truthful. What kind of pipe can I help you pack and smoke?

Factual and truthful with your opinion, it seems you are the one that may need help with the pipe my friend.

I will repeat, how can one keep saying “you are wrong so often” period.

Well Tom, time will tell, and TBH I hope I am wrong and the oligarchy doesn’t bail out oil companies using the “low oil prices crisis” as a means to do so.

phx8 is so wrong he lives in Oregon instead of Alabama or Arizona. lol

Well that kind of wrong IMHO falls into the I’d rather be wrong that right column having lived in both Arizona and Oregon for a bit.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 10, 2015 11:02 AM
Comment #387198

So we’re talking about the future now? Make up your mind!

I know, you can’t admit you don’t know what you are talking about (oil company bailouts) so you shift your focus and start insulting people.

SOP for the Democratic with no conviction.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 10, 2015 4:27 PM
Comment #387213
Comment #387198

So we’re talking about the future now? Make up your mind!


“Comment #387116 What happened to that recovery Democratics were touting for the last 6 years?

Weary are we speaking about the past 6 years or the present and future?”

Seems to me Weary that has been answered for some time. Hence “Pay attention man, read what was said.” No insult intended Weary just need to have your head in the game if you are gonna try to make an intelligent comment it seems.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 11, 2015 9:54 AM
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