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I am scheduling my official retirement for October of next year. With my robust good health probably intact, my intellect undiminished and thousands of unused air-miles and hotel points, I believe I am in a perfect position to work to make my man Scott Walker president or at least vice president in 2016. I think that will be my career from January to November next year. Yes we can.

Posted by Christine & John at November 5, 2014 7:16 PM
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Comment #385040

WTG C/J Enjoy your well-earned working retirement.

As you know, I spent my first 35 years in Wisconsin and still visit my many relatives living there. I too am a Scott Walker supporter. This man has demonstrated “True Grit” in the face of tremendous adversity and opposition. He could be a great asset to our federal government in any elected position.

Should Walker announce his candidacy for president I will be a huge supporter also.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 5, 2014 7:50 PM
Comment #385043

Royal

Maybe see you in Iowa in 2016.

Posted by: C&J at November 5, 2014 8:52 PM
Comment #385045

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2014/11/money-won-on-tuesday-but-rules-of-the-game-changed/

Better start now working on some finger strengthening exercises, C&J.

Posted by: roy ellis at November 5, 2014 9:09 PM
Comment #385050

Best of luck. Beating Burke has likely demonstrated his appeal to non-conservatives. I don’t understand the appeal, but he would likely make a very strong Presidential candidate.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 6, 2014 7:12 AM
Comment #385051

Warren

I read his book. He is a courageous man but very modest.

Posted by: C&J at November 6, 2014 9:30 AM
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Scott Walker in 2016? Aw, cut it out, you guys. I know you’re just trying to cheer me up.

He is a dream candidate for Democrats: a mediocre governor with mediocre political skills from a mediocre state with a mediocre economy, and a walking personification of everything liberals claim about conservatives when it comes to a War on Women.

First, his political skills are so poor, he faced a recall and survived it with 53% of the vote. Whatever you may think of the issues that caused the recall, it takes real political ineptitude to get to the point of almost being kicked out of office. Surviving a recall is not exactly a ‘woo-hoo,’ pump-your-fist-in-the-air kind of achievement.

Second, he claimed his economic program would create 250,000 jobs. It didn’t. It created 118,000. The WI economy is doing ok in some respects, not so good in others. Like I said, mediocre. No one is pounding down the doors of Wisconsin to ask Walker how he did this.

Third, his stands on social issues are an absolute nightmare in a national election. He opposes virtually everything favorable to women when it comes to women’s health and economic issues. Just imagine how this will play against a candidate like Hillary Clinton!

Well, I could go on, but I have to admit it. You got me smiling again. Go Scott Walker!

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2014 3:07 PM
Comment #385058

Great, Phx8,
Can he look forward to your endorsement?

Posted by: tdobson at November 6, 2014 3:13 PM
Comment #385060

Sorry phx8, I am not buying your belittling of Walker. He had the political savvy to withstand, endure, and triumph over the tremendous onslaught by dems from all over the country to remove him from office in a very deep blue state.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 6, 2014 3:49 PM
Comment #385061

Beyond the novelty of having a woman elected as president, Hillary brings few reasons for the electorate to vote for her.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 6, 2014 3:53 PM
Comment #385062

Wisconsin deep blue? WI does go for Democratic presidents. It did went 53 -46% for Obama, despite the presence of VP candidate Paul Ryan However, both houses of its legislature are controlled by the GOP, Senator Johnson is a Tea Party guy, and the Representatives break 5 - 3 in favor of the GOP.

There are 50 states, but he is the only one who has faced a recall. Personally, I prefer my candidates savvy enough not to create situations where they must “endure” and “triumph.” Seriously. That is just political ineptitude. He nearly got himself fired in the most exceptional way possible. And that was in middle-of-the-road Wisconsin. The national stage is much, much tougher.

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2014 3:59 PM
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phx8

He faced a recall because of his courage in taking on the unions. They mobilized a nation-wide effort against them, even bragged about needing to get even with him. The prosecutor in Milwaukee County brought up bogus charges that even embarrassed the Feds. Yet Walker is still standing. The liberals have shot their rods against him, so when they try their usual character assassination on him, he is inoculated.

Wisconsin is an interesting state. It is very liberal in some enclaves of gentry-white, such as Madison. Its black community is solidly Democratic, but most of the non-black, non-gentry folks are moderately conservative. On the whole, it is a little to the left of the U.S. average. Walker won there three times, despite his strong enemies.

re Hillary - it is hard for her to be a “new face.” The theme song they have been using for the past 30 years came out in 1977. Barack Obama beat her back in 2008. Unlike fine wine or some cheeses, she has not improved with age.

Posted by: C&J at November 6, 2014 4:48 PM
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Is that what courage is? Choosing to pick a fight with unions and nearly getting recalled? It looked pointlessly divisive and confrontational to me.

A Walker candidacy would be a good example of exactly what I have been warning the GOP about over the past two years. They will learn precisely the wrong lesson from the midterms. In the 2014 midterms, conservatives were born on third base, and thought they hit a triple. Backing a presidential nominee who would be a right-wing, social conservative ideologue-in-chief would be an absolute disaster.

I mentioned this in another thread, but in 2016, 10 seats will be defended by the Democrats in the Senate, almost all in deeply blue states; the GOP will be defending 24, and most of them will be vulnerable.

I would prefer a nominee other than Hillary. She is way too much of a hawk on foreign policy- she voted for the War in Iraq- and she is way too tight with the banksters, promoters of ‘free trade’ agreements, and other corporate interests for my tastes.

But to be realistic, I think she will easily win the nomination and the presidency. She has the experience of being First Lady, Senator, running a presidential campaign, and Secretary of State, and she has acquitted herself in a competent fashion. Her presidential campaign in 2008 was not bad. It was just that Obama was that good. There is plenty about Hillary to criticize, of course. She has made mistakes, such as her marketing of the Clinton health care plan in 1993; but that can also be seen as a plus; she is very experienced, she has been tested under fire, and if ever a candidate has been thoroughly vetted, it would be Hillary. No surprises there.

The presidency of Bill Clinton was good for America. Most Americans would prefer round two of that, as opposed to another Bush in the White House.

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2014 5:36 PM
Comment #385066

The unions sent millions of dollars into Wisconsin to back the Democrat against Walker…and the union members of WI voted for the Republican.

Posted by: George at November 6, 2014 5:39 PM
Comment #385067

Hillary Clinton is not Bill Clinton. Bill was more moderate, especially after he found he had to deal with a Republican Congress. Hillary, on the other hand is of the same ideology of Obama; a shrill, angry socialist. Angry at America, and bent on putting America in her place…a third world country. I have seen nothing from her but anger, lies, and deception. Who could trust her???

Posted by: George at November 6, 2014 5:44 PM
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phx8,

For all his faults, Walker is still miles ahead of the other GOP contenders. Snyder and Kasich are perhaps the only ones who might fare better, but we’ll have wait and see who decides to run.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 6, 2014 5:55 PM
Comment #385071

Frankly phx8, Hillary looks and sounds like a tired old workhorse ready for pasture. What major legislation has her name on it? What brilliant strategy did she propound and complete as SEC STATE? She couldn’t even keep her husband from wandering and philandering. And, she has more baggage than a Hollywood movie star.

From the stump Hillary is a shrill voice promoting the usual tired old liberal line. The only plus I see for Hillary is her gender which may attract the low information female voters.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 6, 2014 6:19 PM
Comment #385075

WP,
Kasich was a managing director at Lehman Brothers when it collapsed, and set off the economic crash. Not exactly a stellar business resume. He also signed a pretty radical anti-abortion bill. But at least Kasich has more sense than Walker. When Kasich ran into a very similar situation to Walker in his own state, Kasich backed down. It makes for much better relations when the time comes to legislate.

I can’t see either of these guys landing the nomination. Cruz will out flank everybody by going to the far right. The establishment candidates- Bush, Christie, and yes, Romney- will fight it out for that wing. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cruz lands the nomination.

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2014 7:31 PM
Comment #385076

I still think Walker is the most likely to win it all. He is more reserved than Cruz and his union-busting has given him enough conservative cred to weather any rightward lurch by Cruz. There were a number of candidates in the 2012 circus ring who tried to outflank Romney on the right and each went down in flames.

Walker has the unique advantage of appealing to both the TP extremists as well as the GOP establishment, which is why I think he is the strongest contender for the GOP nomination.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 6, 2014 8:02 PM
Comment #385084

Sounds like a plan. Good luck.

Posted by: d.a.n at November 6, 2014 9:47 PM
Comment #385085

WP,
Well, it’s an interesting possibility. The winner of the GOP nomination might get there simply by being less weak than the others, by being the last one standing in a process of elimination. I think Rand Paul could do well, but he is still too young and inexperienced, and I think most people recognize that. Give him time, and he could do great. Now is not that time.

Hard to see why anyone would want Romney back. His best argument is that he would lost by the least. Not exactly compelling.

Bush is delusional if he thinks people will vote for him. I have just one word for Jeb:

Bush.

Christie comes across as too abrasive. He flunked the leadership test over Ebola. When the heat was on, he went with the polls, and ignored the science and the advice of epidemiologists.

Rubio needs to develop a spine. He keeps changing positions to match what he thinks people want to hear. No one respects that. A guy has gotta have some real convictions and some real passion for certain issues in order to succeed, and not just re-triangulate every time the wind shifts.

Some really interesting scuttlebutt was passed on to me by a person who has a lot of close contact with various Senators. This person is somewhat liberal. When asked who was the most likeable Senator, she answered ‘John McCain.’ By far. He is apparently a real pleasure to be around in person. Who knew? And second? Lyndsey Graham, who apparently has a great personality. So, there is a reason after all those guys get asked to appear on every Sunday morning program. People who know them, like them. Joe Biden also received high marks.

Elizabeth Warren was described as ‘mean.’ But the worst of all was Ted Cruz. He was described as a ‘********.’

So it is hard to imagine a person like Ted Cruz, who is apparently so dislikeable in person, ever getting the nomination. But as I keep saying, the Republicans will learn the wrong lesson from 2014. They will convince themselves they just need to be more conservative, more extreme, and more radical in order to win. And Ted Cruz is just the man to give that to them.

It’s delusional. But that won’t stop them.

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2014 9:58 PM
Comment #385086

One other piece of fun scuttlebutt: the quirkiest Senator is John Tester (D, MT). Apparently he lost fingers on one hand in a farming accident. His chief of staff is also missing the same fingers! When someone brought a cute baby before Tester, the first thing he did was count the fingers and pronounce ‘all there!’

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2014 10:20 PM
Comment #385111

I knew about Tester’s fingers, but I did not know about his chief of staff. As you probably already know, Rahm Emanuel is also missing his middle finger.

Posted by: Warren Porter at November 7, 2014 12:23 AM
Comment #385114

Game on. Let’s get to this 2016 race. Mid-term elections to me are like watching the Caribbean baseball series in the Winter when all you really want to do is get to Spring Training.

If I had to predict how 2016 will turn out I will say I think the economy stalls into a recession in 2016 and the Republican wins in a land slide. I say recession because this recovery is nearing the longest on record. Critics of this economy have spent that whole time tearing it down, comparing it to better economies, and hand wringing, while the economy just kept on steadily growing.

But, if the recession waits until 2017 then it will be very hard for Republicans to win. Democrats still start with the electoral vote advantage each election. Republicans have proven themselves unable to break that in the last six elections.

The Republicans need to actually find a strong candidate for a change instead of the kind you have to hold your nose to vote for (AKA, John Kerry if you’re a Democrat). Is that Scott Walker? Maybe. I really don’t know much about the guy but I’m excited to find out.

Posted by: Adam Ducker at November 7, 2014 7:34 AM
Comment #385132

phx8 wrote; “So it is hard to imagine a person like Ted Cruz, who is apparently so dislikeable in person, ever getting the nomination.”

Do you honestly believe that we will take the word of a “friend of yours” as to Ted Cruz and his private personality?

I would remind you of Nixon’s two elections. How likeable was he in private?

phx8 wrote; “They (Republicans) will convince themselves they just need to be more conservative, more extreme, and more radical in order to win…”

Don’t you just love the logic of phx8. A huge majority of Americans apparently just voted for the very positions you denigrate? If what he wrote is true, the dems have a huge job ahead of them in having to re-educate millions of confused voters. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 7, 2014 3:55 PM
Comment #385133

Adam,
Another good employment report: over 200,000 jobs created and the unemployment rate down to 5.8%

It is hard to see a traditional recession occurring in 2016. Wages and inflation will not drive it. Eventually, the Fed will increase interest rates and everyone knows it, but that day may be some time off. QE is ending, but the drop in oil prices and other commodities will boost the economy without increasing wages or inflation. We’ll need to be near ‘full employment’ (whatever that number is!) before competition for hiring drives up wages.

The bigger danger always was and still remains deflation. The collapse in commodity pricing is worrying in that regard.

The Obama administration will go down as one of the greatest in American history for this economy, and everyone should thank their lucky stars the Democrats and Obama succeeded. When the economy crashed, no one knew for sure what to do.

Republicans in the House thought we should avoid debt and not pass a stimulus. The stock market suffered a huge one-day drop, and lost $1 trillion when Republicans rejected the stimulus.

Wrong answer!

Thank goodness Pelosi and the Democrats got it right.

Mitt Romney opined- “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt.”

Wrong answer!

Thank goodness the Obama administration saved the American auto industry.

But at the time, no one knew for sure. There were no road maps for how to handle such a catastrophe. In a two-week period in September 2008, 12/13 largest financial institutions faced collapse. The wrong answers would have resulted in a crash worse than the Great Depression. Only two economies had ever been in an even vaguely similar situation: Japan and its Lost Decade, and the US in the Great Depression.

The danger today is deflation. The danger is repeating the mistake of 1937, when the government thought it was out of the economic woods, and decided to concentrate on reducing debt.

Wrong answer!

The result brought back the Depression with a vengeance.

Fortunately for all of us, Obama and the Democrats have done a superb job of bringing America back. There’s more to be done, of course, but the most important part- increasing wages- will probably have to wait for the next Democratic president.

I don’t see a way the Republicans can tank the economy again using just the legislature and its budgeting, unless they made dangerously draconian budget cuts.

Posted by: phx8 at November 7, 2014 4:00 PM
Comment #385134

California governor Jerry Brown is beginning to sound like a fiscal conservative.

““Living within our means is a heroic continuing battle here,” Mr. Brown said by phone. “We have pressure in every sector to spend more. I’m riding the tiger out here. Everyone says: Why don’t you add five more programs? What else can you think up? Medicaid spending alone is about $90 billion — that’s bigger than the economy of some states.”

“Trying to hold back his fellow Democrats from spending more freely could be one of the key challenges of Mr. Brown’s fourth term. As the state has slowly but steadily built back reserves, Democratic leaders in both houses have pushed to increase spending on social service programs, even as they said they supported Mr. Brown’s instinct of restraint.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/us/brown-makes-winning-look-easy-in-california-a-rare-bright-spot-for-democrats-.html?emc=edit_th_20141107&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=55454588

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 7, 2014 4:00 PM
Comment #385141

Phx8:

I misspoke about the length of this recovery. What I read recently was that by the 2016 election this recovery will be the 4th longest recovery. It would be nearing the Reagan recovery which was 92 months. The author of Calculated Risk told me he thinks 2017 is a better guess but that still seems optimistic. This steady growth has approached stall speed several times thanks to Congress. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what this new bunch of clowns will do.

Posted by: Adam Ducker at November 7, 2014 8:22 PM
Comment #385145

This recovery has set all kinds of records already, including most consecutive months for adding jobs:

“The private sector has added 10.6 million jobs over 56 consecutive months — its longest streak of uninterrupted gains on government records back to 1939.”
USA Today

Not only that, the Obama administration has been adding private sector jobs, while shrinking the size of government. Gross Domestic Product grew at a healthy 3.5% clip, the last CPI was -.2%, the last PPI -.1%, the budget deficit has been reduced every year and will nearly be eliminated by 2016, the national debt is stabilizing at a number lower than anyone (including me) would have guessed five years ago, and… Oh wait. Republicans don’t feel good about the economy.

Doncha just hate socialists?!

The only significant glitches came with the debt ceiling crisis, when the GOP managed to get the country’s debt downgraded, and the recent correction in the stock market, when the GOP spread panic over Ebola, ISIS, immigrants, and terrorist immigrants infected with ISIS crossing the southern border. Because… because… BENGHAZI!!!

A political philosophy and economic agenda based upon either blocking or doing the opposite of whatever Obama wants is not a viable approach to government. Fortunately, the GOP has no leadership and is split between an establishment wing and a radical extremist wing. I don’t think they will be any more effective with both the Senate and the House than they were with just the House. They have literally nothing positive to offer.

Posted by: phx8 at November 7, 2014 11:43 PM
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