Goodbye Clinton, Obama for Warren in 2016: What If It Is True?

Sunday July 6th saw the New York Post publish a piece by Ed Klein that purports that President Obama has decided to throw his backing behind Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren for the Democratic nomination for president in 2016 if she decides to run. Warren has repeatedly denied interest in the presidency in 2016 while the article isn’t backed in concrete fact, rather what Klein claims to have heard from unnamed insider Democratic sources. Klein’s veracity and that of his sources has been called into question in the past and until the story of Warren is proven further, I’m perfectly content to view it as a rumor. Regardless, the story has been picked up by numerous media outlets which are now speculating about such a situation. The article might have just been an attempt to cause friction among Democrats but it is interesting to further examine why it could be true.

Hillary Clinton has appeared for some time to be the standard-bearer for the Democratic Party as its eventual nominee for the presidential contest in 2016. Unfortunately for Clinton fans, Clinton has taken a bit of a hit in recent weeks. Well more like a wallop. While promoting her new book Hard Choices which has been less than a resounding success, Clinton repeatedly stumbled on the interview circuit. Between skirting questions concerning her diplomatic accomplishments, she also made numerous statements insinuating that the Clintons left the White House essentially destitute despite having large monetary advances for autobiographies and high fee speaking bookings. There have been those who have questioned Clinton's ability to lead, especially under pressure. Never mind questions that still linger over Benghazi which conservative's continue to have a field day with.

Clinton who once looked to be the Democratic heir apparent to the presidency is being taken down brick by brick. On the other hand, Clinton has made moves to distance herself from President Obama. On the surface this is a smart move as the presidents approval has been tanking in polls (recently rated by a Quinnipiac poll as the worst post-World War II president) owing to still dismal economic growth, the out-of-control immigration issue on the border, and a foreign policy that seems to be derived from a Magic 8 ball. The president has next to no support among Republicans and is losing support among independents, the latter of whom can be the deciding factor in a national election.

Clinton is right to distance herself from the president. Conceivably, Clinton could do a good job of attracting independents and even Republicans who are displeased with the eventual GOP nominee in 2016. In 2008, if a Democratic presidency was assured, the majority of Republicans would have preferred to see Clinton rather than Obama as the victor. Clinton's foreign policy at least what she states is more in line with mainstream Republicans and she has adopted a more realistic view on the economy than the president has. In so much, she doesn't paint a rosy picture of the current situation. Regardless, Clinton isn't completely disavowing her former boss; she is still a Democrat and to do such a thing would not only fully alienate the president but staunch supporters of his in the electorate.

One must ask though how the president is viewing all of this. While Clinton has distanced herself from the president by implying as much rather than coming out with absolute statements, it'd be foolish to believe the president doesn't realize as much. Very rarely in American politics do you see such a prominent potential candidate repudiate a senior in their own party. Though the president has to realize his current position and standing in the country. Despite his massive ego, I don't believe for a second that the president doesn't believe himself to be even a little toxic and with that in mind, can see what Clinton is doing as being beneficial for her.

Would Obama pledge support to Warren this early in the game? I don't think so. True, Warren is a progressive unlike Clinton and the president sees himself as a progressive. Many youth in this country that vote Democratic are more in line (or at least believe they are) with progressive thought rather than left-center, this despite widespread alienation many have with the president. If the president continues on this downward path he is currently on, the left might see the need to rally around a true progressive instead of a mainstream democrat. The conservatives in the GOP believe that Romney lost because he was too close to center and not conservative enough; Romney couldn't provide the contrast needed to effectively rally independents and Republicans to him against Obama. It is entirely believable that the Democrats might believe this to be true for their side as well.

As for Warren, her time as an elected official has been limited, even less than what Obama had prior to winning the presidency. Additionally she has repeatedly denied having interest in the presidency in 2016. Despite this, as the progressive voice of the Democratic Party, she can conceivably gain increased support depending on how the next few years play out. In so much, the GOP would be smart to keep an eye on her and expand their opposition research. As for the story that Klein has presented us with, I don't believe it for a second. Obama and Clinton have their differences but I don't believe the president would do such a thing, much less this far out from the election.

Posted by SPBrooker at July 9, 2014 7:23 PM
Comment #380778

Interesting strategy postulation. My hope is that both parties have a bruising nominating process with no early front leader in either party. If both parties nominate governors who have a good fiscal record it could be very interesting and beneficial for all Americans.

I would like to see the election issues centered about good fiscal management and savvy foreign policy. Social issues should be kept to a bare minimum.

Americans deserve a candidate with good workable ideas, and not the usual empty promises. My vote will go to the candidate with the best ideas for getting America working again without huge and costly government programs. We need a president who can present a sensible budget and has proven their success already in his/her state.

We need a president who can inspire working America and corporate America to come together for the benefit of everyone. We need a president who will actually listen to ideas that come from our various states that are already working in education and job building. We need a president who chooses his cabinet and regulators from those who have proven success in a related field, not some theory person who got all they know from a book.

And finally, I want a president that understands that respect is to be earned…not simply expected.

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Posted by: rteedfsgt at July 11, 2014 9:10 PM
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I can see why Obama would be for Warren. Like him, she can divide the people and like him would probably do nothing really constructive, but would help increase passions.

I am not a Hillary fan, but if I had to choose between Hillary and Warren, it would be Hillary all the way. Let’s make sure neither of those maladies befalls our great nation.

We should have learned with Woodrow Wilson that college professors make bad presidents, even if - maybe because - they provide such lofty expectations.

Posted by: CJ at July 12, 2014 6:55 AM
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That’s it! I am never voting Democrat again. A woman with no proposals on the Iraq war other than pulling out. Great (sigh). I do not want a woman in the White House. Especially not a Democratic woman— (aaaargh) Do you know how silly this could all get?
It is all going to be just a domestic body of policies with no internationalism of any kind. It is hubris if she accepts the ‘run’. We have to have someone who cares about the nation and understands what this nation is the world over. These are the borders of freedom, a place of the American dream, a means for democracy the world over.

Obama’s out of his mind. Please assassinate Obama. That’s it he’s had it—enough.

Posted by: simpleheaded at July 12, 2014 11:48 AM
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You cannot talk about the president that way. Please stop.

Posted by: CJ at July 12, 2014 12:06 PM
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That is an outrageous remark simple…get some help for your insanity.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 12, 2014 1:38 PM
Comment #380794

Thanks, simpleheaded. You just gave Democratics another reason to blame Republicans.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 12, 2014 4:15 PM
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You think Obama’s bad, watch-out for Warren. What we need is the Republicans at the top (atleast there’s some semblance of internationalism). And the Democrats back at the local posts they should have been alotted to anyway.

It’s all like that E-surance commercial where they old woman stands up and says “That’s not how this woks, this isn’t how any of this works.”

This is such a mess, be it Hil’ or Warren, we may never get out of this woman mess.

This all started with Jon Stewart and the far libbies generating a case for a woman to achieve the WH on TV, claiming there’s nothing wrong with it. They definitively want a woman, a menopausally crampy pain in the arse woman as president. We may never come back to morale as a party as this divides us greatly. Think about it and you’ll come to the reallization that you hate it immediately.

Again Obama has gone to far and has thrown out all men as candidates, all of us for a vagina.

THE RULE IS NOW: ALL MEN OUT OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, ALL HAIL WOMAN AS THE NEW MALE (Males who, by the way, may have dedicated years to serving the public all for a woman who did NOT!).

I want our Democrats back or I’m out. Kill Obama!

Posted by: simpleheaded at July 14, 2014 8:55 AM
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I suggest that we all ignore simple and his insane rants.

Posted by: Royal Flush at July 14, 2014 1:25 PM
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I suggest that we all ignore simple and his insane rants.

Weren’t we already?

Posted by: Warren Porter at July 14, 2014 2:45 PM
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Maybe not the folks at the Treasury Department

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 14, 2014 3:15 PM
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Simple needs to be banned from this site, the comments deleted, and the Secret Service contacted. The owner of WB and/or the editor for this column need to act. You have a responsibility. No matter how much we wish it were not so, such comments need to be taken as a serious threat.

Posted by: phx8 at July 14, 2014 8:39 PM
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If the ss was all they say they are then they already know.

Posted by: Weary Willie at July 15, 2014 1:05 AM
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I figure the chances of that are excellent.

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