Teethering on the Brink: Eastern Ukraine

Last Tuesday, Ukrainian forces began an “anti-terrorist operation” aimed at pro-Russian separatists in the largely Russian eastern part of the country. This follows recent seizures of government buildings by protestors and separatists a month after Crimea fell to Russian forces. Make no mistake, the Ukraine must act but this situation is far more dangerous than the Crimea crisis and Kiev must be very careful with how it proceeds.


The Eastern part of the Ukraine contains large Russian populations like Crimea. Seeing what happened to the Crimea has spurred separatist forces in the region to take similar action and they have intensified as of late. There is no doubt that these separatists, some armed, are being supported by the Russian government itself. Remember in the Crimea how armed "Crimean self-defense forces" suddenly appeared fully armed with Russian equipment. Now the same situation is occurring in Ukraine proper.

The Crimea was let go by the Ukraine without a fight militarily speaking. The same won't occur in the East nor should it. One must accept, and understand that the Ukrainians will not let, should not allow their country be torn apart due to the provocations by outsiders and fifth columnists. Instead of taking a path towards securing greater independence within a Ukrainian state, these protestors are creating a situation and seeking a result of a far greater magnitude. This in itself is very worrisome.

Kiev now finds itself in a catch-22 situation. If they don't quell the separatists, the government looks impotent and runs the risk of these movements intensifying and a situation like Crimea re-emerging. On the other hand, if they use too much force they run the risk of drawing the wrath of the Kremlin in the form of a military intervention. Russian officials are already openly talking of the possibility of a civil war in the Ukraine and the need to protect Russian citizens there.

Russian law allows Russian military forces to intervene in a foreign country if Russian citizens are threatened. While this is in violation of international law concerning state sovereignty, Russia has used it as a pretext for not only Crimea but its intervention in Georgia in 2008. Russian President Putin will use it again if he feels the need to do so. There is also the great chance that the unrest is being exacerbated by Russian government agencies such as the FSB to elicit a greater response from the Ukrainians. This would provide the Russians with a pretext for intervention even though the unrest is of their own making.

So this is the situation the Ukraine finds itself in. Act too weakly and unrest continues with a negative result for the country. Act too strongly and the possibility of foreign military intervention and annexation increases. It's the middle ground Kiev must find. The problem is in a fluidic situation like this, it's very hard to operate in that middle ground.

Posted by SPBrooker at April 21, 2014 2:54 PM
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SP, perhaps this is the way ‘wars’ will be fought in the globalised society and NWO.

With a globalised world the idea is that countries will be so entwined with trade/commerce that no one country would be strong enough economically to go off on their own, do land grabs and so on - - - against a neighbor state.

Peace and love was to be upon us, trade agreements, regional trade zones, workers free to move around the world unimpeded by travel/ID documents, etc.

Now, it seems the ‘entwined’ part has worked out real well. Like Russia is providing something like a third of the EU’s gas. ‘BP’ has big operations ongoing in Russia. If the West pulls too many viaas Russia may take a nationalistic approach to BP and toss them out.

It seems that the EU and West is not up to economic strangulation of Russia. So, Russia is left to ‘federate’ their neighbors as they see fit. They surely will retain control of UK’s corpocracy and keep the EU/West at bay re NATO and tight relations with UK.

It’s just Russian corpocracy looking for ways to make ‘more money’ as I can tell.

Posted by: roy ellis at April 23, 2014 9:45 AM
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There is another Website on the matter of Ukraine, and People can use the Search Function for Different Topics, and it is the Voltaire Net Org at http://www.voltairenet.org/en .

Russia did not annex Crimea, because the Overwhelming Majority of the Voters of Crimea wanted to join Russia, and so it was Crimea that annexed Russia.

I think that the reason for this is that the Russians and the Ukrainians have been together for Centuries, and so there is a Reluctance of the Oblasts to join Russia, so as not to give any perceptions of offence to the Ethnic Ukrainians.

This is why the Ethnic Russians in Ukraine have opted for the Compromise of Independence instead, and with the boycotting of the Presidential Elections, because they do not want an Office of President for Ukraine.

This has nothing to do with Russia, but it is the Will of the People of the People’s Republic of Donetsk, which is a Ukrainian State in Eastern Ukraine has a common border with Russia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Donetsk-Ukraine-map.png .

This is because the Coup has left a Conviction with a percentage of Ukrainians of Russian Ethnicity that Ethnic Ukrainians do not want a Ukrainian Citizen of Russian Ethnicity for President.

Many Ukrainians of every Ethnicity do not want an Office of President for Ukraine as a Conciliatory Compromise, so that that this issue does not complicate the Functioning of future Ukrainian Governments.

We know that America Only allowed White Presidents for over 200 years, and this has changed with the Nobel Peace Prize winning Colored President of America Barack Obama, and we should remember that the European Union also Paid for a Nobel Peace Prize.

Ukraine is only a Recent Democracy, and so they cannot understand that a President can come from an Ethnic Minority, and this is why Ukraine is better not to have an Office of President, and Some Oblasts want their Independence over this Most Vital Matter, unless it can be resolved at the Ukrainian Constitutional Convention.

We will see how the Ukrainian Constitutional Convention to Negotiate a New Constitution will handle this Matter taking into Consideration the need for Compromise at the Ukrainian Constitutional Convention.

This Issue has become the Most Vital Non Negotiable Issue for those Citizens of People’s Republic of Donetsk, because had Ukraine been an English style Parliamentary Democracy with no Office of President, then Many Problems would have been Avoided, and Ukraine needs Federalization and Decentralization, and some other changes to its Constitution.

The other Countries who have an Office of President should not see any suggestions because of Ukrainians for a New Constitution that they should change their Constitution, but since Ukraine is to have Negotiations on a New Constitution
because of the Geneva Peace Agreement, then the topic of an English style Parliamentary Democracy with no Office of President for Ukraine, because of Ukraine’s Unique Circumstances would probably be discussed by some Delegates to the Constitutional Convention as envisioned in the Geneva Peace Agreement.

Posted by: Journalist at April 25, 2014 3:26 PM
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The following comment uses Poetic License in order to nullify the Lies of an Insane Psychopathic Liar, and it is based on a News Article in the Guardian Online Newspaper, and it is Titled: Kerry: Russia must withdraw support for pro-Russia separatists in Ukraine at http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/03/john-kerry-sergei-lavrov-ukraine-crisis-russia-separatists .

John Kerry the American Secretary of State or SS, spoke with his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov on Saturday about the continuing crisis in Ukraine.

The two spoke by phone, with Psycho Kerry saying the release of seven military observers from America’s Unprincipled Nazi, which is Euphemistically known as the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) was a positive step, but adding that more needed to be done to hand Ukraine over to America for WW 3.

Pro Federalists which are Slandered as Pro-Russia separatists by the Insane Psychopathic American Liars had accused the observers of spying for NATO, and they are Correct Kerry said.

Kerry said, “It’s a step, but there are many other steps that have to be taken in order to be able to have Ukraine join NATO for WW 3.”

Kerry said he and Lavrov would discuss with Didier Burkhalter, the president of Switzerland and chairman of the OSCE, ways America’s Puppet the Euphemistically named Organization for Security and Cooperation “play a larger role in Deceiving Russia, and in end, I reaffirmed that America is the Puppet Master of the OSCE.”

Russia’s Foreign Minister Lavrov said it was important to secure Kiev’s fulfillment of last month’s Geneva declaration on de-escalating tensions in Ukraine.

“Chances of this still exist,” the Russian statement said, as long as all Ukrainian regions were represented in a national dialogue on Constitutional Reform and “Terrorists” were curbed.

Psycho Kerry said it was important Russia withdrew support for Non Nazis, because America is Funding Ukrainian Ultra Nationalist Nazis, who America used in an Anti Democratic Coup, and America has invested 5 Billion Dollars to fund Nazis in Ukraine, because America needs Ukraine for WW 3, and even though Russia is not interfering in Ukraine, America will just say that Russia is interfering in Ukraine, because America wants to place addition sanctions on Innocent People, because the American Leaders are True Scum.

Psycho Kerry also said he and Lavrov discussed the Ultra Nationalist Nazi Terrorism ordered by America through their Puppets in Kiev.

“All of this violence is Wonderful, and exactly what America Planned and Ordered,” Kerry said, “and America must do everything in our power to reduce the capacity of Innocent People to Defend Themselves, by disarming them so that they cannot Defend Themselves, because America wants WW 3.

There could be People who think that Russia might wait for a New Federalized Decentralized Constitution for Ukraine, and if this does not happen before the Ukrainian Elections, then a few days before the European Parliament Elections, East Ukraine might invite the Russian Army into East Ukraine, and Russia will turn off the Gas to Europe and to All of Europe and to Germany to help the Citizens of the European Union avoid WW 3.

There could 100 Million Dollars offered as a reward for President Obama’s dead body, and British Prime Minister David Cameron might say that this could be necessary to Prevent WW 3.

The Ukraine Situation might need to be Solved as All Ukrainian Regions want it, before the Gas will be turned on again, and another Condition for Germany might be that Germany needs a Male Chancellor, because Germany should stop Concealing their Nazism behind a woman.

Russia might ask China to prove its Partnership by recalling All of America’s Debt, and failure to do so may Imply that China is a Secret NATO Country.

The message is that if you love your family, and if you do not want WW 3, then you will boycott All American Goods and Services, and you will keep passing on this message on to other People, and Voters should realize these things for the European Parliament Elections.

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