Republicans Will Take All the Heat...

As each day passes, our country is closer and closer to leaping off this “Fiscal Cliff.” Many Republicans, including former Republican Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich, has demanded they do not give in to Obama’s plan or the democrats. They are saying to let it happen, but by doing so Democrats will place full blame on the Republicans because in their minds there’s no way they could be responsible for any of its.

From a general perspective, this Fiscal Cliff debate has become a serious game of Chicken, and the Obama and Republicans are both waiting. Republicans will call his bluff in a way, and believe he won't let the Fiscal Cliff occur and he'll make the necessary adjustments to avoid the economic disaster. However, just today President Obama explained he believes Republican Speaker of the House, John Boehner's proposal for the budget is "out of balance."

Obama also said he's open to compromise, but we know that's not entirely true because he's set on increasing taxes on the top 2%. So what will happen? Will this turn into a political meltdown? Will it be as bad as they say if we do go off the cliff? Either way, if there is any type of compromise, the Republicans will be blamed for the Democrats not getting everything they want, and if we do not meet the deadline it will also be the Republicans' fault. It's in a gridlock right now.

Posted by bigtex at December 4, 2012 3:31 PM
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Comment #358137

Subject: Death spiral states

Another indication of the rapidly approaching end of America¦

From http://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2012/11/25/do-you-live-in-a-death-spiral-state/

Eleven states make our list of danger spots for investors. Their residents can look forward to a rising tax burden, deteriorating state finances and an exodus of employers. The list includes California, New York, Illinois and Ohio, along with some smaller states like New Mexico and Hawaii.

Two factors determine whether a state makes this elite list of fiscal hellholes. The first is whether it has more takers than makers. A maker is someone gainfully employed in the private sector. A taker is someone who draws money from the government as an employee, pensioner, or welfare recipient.

Let’s say you are a software entrepreneur with 100 on your payroll. If you stay in San Francisco, your crew will support 139 takers. In Texas, they would support only 82, making Austin look very attractive.

Maker to Taker ratios (100:139 means there are 100 makers to 139 takers)

Ohio 100:100
Hawaii 100:102
Illinois 100:103
Kentucky 100:105
S. Carolina 100:106
New York 100:107
Maine 100:107
Alabama 100:110
California 100:139
Mississippi 100:149
New Mexico 100:153

Posted by: John Johnson at December 5, 2012 7:29 AM
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The Republicans have it easy on this one. They have two choices.
1. They don’t cave to Obama, = it’s their fault.
2. If they do cave to Obama and his plan doesn’t work, which it won’t, = it’s their fault.
All they have to do is chose which one they want to get blamed for.
Obama has no intention of compromising. He never has and never will. His idea of compromise is my way or no way.
Both side have ridiculous plans of avoiding the ‘fiscal cliff’. And if either had any intention of compromising they’d have come up with a plan that’s somewhere between.
And it most likely wouldn’t work. If there is any kind of compromise I look for it to be so full of pork you could sell it at the livestock market.
The Republican plan won’t work because it won’t raise enough revenue. The Democrat plan won’t work because it won’t raise enough revenue. Specially with Obama want to waste another 5 to 8 Billion Dollars on another stimulus for his cronies.
Avoiding the ‘fiscal cliff’ is going to take some steps that neither the Democrats or the Republicans will either like or consider.
1.Taxes have to be raised on every income level.
2.Spending, both discretionary, and entitlement has to be drastically cut. And in every category.
3.The budget MUST be balanced. And STAY balanced.
4.The national debt MUST be paid down to a manageable level.
5.Both sides MUST WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WE DON’T GET IN THIS MESS AGAIN.
Like I said, neither side is going to like it. But it has to be done. But don’t look to that bunch up there in DC to do any of it.
Basically folks, we’re all in the middle of a huge crap pie and we ALL are gonna have to take a few very large bites. Just raising taxes on the 2% ain’t gonna hit it. Just closing loopholes ain’t gonna hit it. It took 300,000,000 of us to get us into this mess, and it’s gonna take 300,000,000 of us to get us out.

Posted by: Ron Brown at December 5, 2012 9:24 AM
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So, if we don’t do as Obama says, HE will cut everybodys pay, but it will be somebody else’s fault?
HE is willing to create additional hardship on all of us in order to push a political agenda, but he is the one who cares about We the People and the country?
He knows stealing more from “the rich” will have no impact on the nations debt, but he is out on tour fomenting class-warfare?

It’s as if Obama has such a strong hatred for his fellow multi-millionaires that he is willing to sacrifice all of us just to make them pay.

Posted by: kctim at December 5, 2012 10:37 AM
Comment #358143

Whaaa, whaaa whine, us poor republicans/conservatives will take all the heat, sniffle sniffle. You have held the economy hostage for years after attempting to drown it in the bathtub! Really you guys, what else would you expect?

It is this simple. Obama ran on taxing the top 2%. The American people voted him back into office after the stalled economy and all the other BS thrown at him by repub/conservative propagandist for 4 years. The American people want the rich to pay their fair share. Tell your tea bagging congress members to support the will of the people.

The problem is jobs not debt. Not slave wage jobs but decent paying jobs. The class war waged by the wealthy for years has caused this problem they are not the solution.

Posted by: j2t2 at December 5, 2012 11:15 AM
Comment #358150

He ran on taxing the top 2% which raises the tax burden of the uber rich not one iota, and raises a miniscule amount of revenue with regard to the mounting debt. The issue is a red herring. Purely political.

Money in has to equal money out. Is that so hard to understand? (Acutually, money in has to be more than money out because we have to payoff what we owe)

O wants to keep giving it away. The ones who want more of it in return for doing nothing more, or nothing at all, are the ones who eleced him.

The only jobs he has created and wants to continue to promote are not private sector jobs. They are the ones that taxpayers fund…teachers, firemen, policeman, federal workers, federal work program workers. This does nothing to help us out since it requires more tax money or more borrowing.

If the private sector is not motivated or able to create new jobs, the only alternative is to drastically cut government services. Bottomline. Lowest denominator.

Posted by: John Johnson at December 5, 2012 12:10 PM
Comment #358151

Again with the alternate universe you live in J2?

Here is how simple reality is: The American people did not vote Obama back into office so he could wage class warfare, only 51% of you did. While leftists believe 51% gives them a mandate to force people to live according to leftist doctrine, that is not how our Constitutional Republic is supposed to function. 49% of us voted against leftist doctrine and it is the duty of our representatives to do all it can to prevent it from being imposed onto us against our will. Their job is not to ignore us and roll over in order to please a few million more of you.

The problem is government spending and the debt it has created. We inflated the size of our government with money we do not have and money we thought we might have, and that has put us in the position we are in now.
In other words, the extra tax money from higher wages that you are whining about would not be needed if we lived within our means.

The belief that our fighting for our rights and what’s best for our country somehow means we are ‘holding the economy hostage’ is absurd. It does however, explain where peoples priorities are, who voted for Obama and why.

Posted by: kctim at December 5, 2012 12:15 PM
Comment #358155

Yeah, Obama did run on taxing the 2% of the wealthiest. And now he plans on keeping that promise. The only one he’s ever planed on keeping.
Here’s the problem you don’t seem to understand j2. Just raising taxes to the 2% alone ain’t gonna cut it. And even if there was the slightest chance, which there ain’t, that it would work, wasting billions more on unneeded stimulus packages for Obama’s cronies would void any gains the tax increase might give.
Stating the truth ain’t whining. No matter if the Republicans cave or stand their ground, there is no way they are gonna come out of this without getting at least 100% of the blame. Y’all got them by the short hairs on this. And your gonna be one of the loudest ones blaming them.
And they do deserve blame. With the way they handled the economy while they had congress under Bush they are partly the blame for the mess were in.
However with the way Obama and the Democrat congress acted when they controlled both houses they have to share just as much blame.
See that’s the best thing about being independent. You can call both parties on the carpet when they screw the pooch because you don’t have to blindly parrot any parties talking points.

Posted by: Ron Brown at December 5, 2012 1:16 PM
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It’s a waste of time trying to open the mind of ideologue. Those who are somewhat objective and tired of the same old, same old, who are just dropping by here to read a few threads and posts are the ones I’m after. The j2t2’s and Stephen’s are lost and not ever coming around. This goes for the rest of the neck nuzzlers who seem to have been scared off.

Posted by: John Johnson at December 5, 2012 2:28 PM
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The problem is jobs not debt. Not slave wage jobs but decent paying jobs. The class war waged by the wealthy for years has caused this problem they are not the solution.
Posted by: j2t2 at December 5, 2012 11:15

I am amazed that liberals don’t jump on my repeated proposal. Increase the mandatory minimum wage to $200 per hour X 40 hours X 50 weeks = $400,000 per year. That will place everyone who works in the 1% and result in tax revenue beyond belief.

Posted by: Royal Flush at December 5, 2012 4:08 PM
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THE CLOWN SHOW…

“President Barack Obama met with several MSNBC hosts this afternoon at the White House to discuss tax rates, according to Huffington Post reporter Jennifer Bendery. The reporter wondered if an “MSNBC love fest” was going on at the White House.

Here’s Bendery’s reporting, in a series of tweets:

Just passed Al Sharpton walking into the WH.

— jennifer bendery (@jbendery) December 4, 2012

Also, Al Sharpton is so unbelievably tiny now. I actually gasped when I saw him pass by just now. Hope he’s ok.

— jennifer bendery (@jbendery) December 4, 2012

Rachel Maddow is now in the West Wing. How do I know this? I just walked in with her.

— jennifer bendery (@jbendery) December 4, 2012

Never met Maddow until now. We kind of look alike, esp today. My intro: “Are you my long lost sister?” Her: “Glad we both got the memo.”

— jennifer bendery (@jbendery) December 4, 2012

Maddow, heading into West Wing, said she was here for a “hippie cabal.” Asked if I was coming. NO, DAMN IT, I WASN’T INVITED.

— jennifer bendery (@jbendery) December 4, 2012

So… in the last hour, I watched Rachel Maddow, Al Sharpton and Lawrence O’Donnell all walk into the West Wing. MSNBC love fest?


— jennifer bendery (@jbendery) December 4, 2012

WH spox: “This afternoon at the White House, the President met with influential progressives….”

— jennifer bendery (@jbendery) December 4, 2012

WH spox says Obama mtg with Maddow, other progressives to discuss importance of extending the Bush middle-class tax cut.

— jennifer bendery (@jbendery) December 4, 2012”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-consults-msnbc-hosts-sharpton-maddow-tax-rates_665036.html

Posted by: Billinflorida at December 5, 2012 4:42 PM
Comment #358170

Thanks for the laugh Bill.

Posted by: Royal Flush at December 5, 2012 4:46 PM
Comment #358172

The problem is the debt j2. If our elected idiots, I mean officials didn’t insist on spending a heap more than was taken in then we wouldn’t have a $16,000,000,000,000 debt. Then this silly fight of how to avoid the ‘fiscal cliff’ wouldn’t be taking place.
I do agree that jobs are important and government policy has an effect on how many folks are working. But one thing to remember is that NO government has ever created one single private sector job. It’s the folks that put their money up to start businesses that create private sector jobs.
I’m planing on adding three new positions over at the farm supply store. No government agency came and told me I needed them. No government agency is going to hire them. And no government agency is going to be paying them.
My partner and I decided we need these three new employees.
Government can make it hard for businesses to hire new employees. Or it can make it easy to hire new employees. But it’s the private sector that creates or eliminates jobs.

Posted by: Ron Brown at December 5, 2012 4:57 PM
Comment #358189

To quote Josh Marshall:

Folks in the White House appear to have a serene certainty: upper income tax rates will go up. End of story. And the political terrain backs them up. In fact, they’ve already gone up. The current law is crystal clear. All the rates are going up. It’s done. No one has to agree to anything. Boehner and the rest of them all voted for that a decade ago. The only question now is which if any will go back down. The White House says all but those for income over $250,000 should go back down. It’s up to Boehner and House Republicans to decide whether they want to join that rate cut or oppose.

It’s true. The public overwhelmingly backs taxes on the rich going up, and this GOP tantrum appears to be over what they themselves voted for a decade ago, but don’t want now. It’s actually pretty ridiculous, because their economic policies crashed our economy, hurting lower income Americans severely and disproportionally, and now it seems they just want to hurt those same Americans even more.

Yes, the GOP will be blamed for this, and being totally unreasonable and intentionally nasty toward non-rich Americans is certain to hurt them down the road.

Btw, on that score it was really sad but interesting yesterday watching Republicans giving Bob Dole in a wheelchair the middle finger as they defeated signing on to the UN treaty on disability rights using a dumbass excuse about home schooling. Real smart move — adding the disabled to that incredibly long list of people who simply cannot vote Republican!

Posted by: Adrienne at December 5, 2012 7:01 PM
Comment #358202
The problem is the debt j2. If our elected idiots, I mean officials didn’t insist on spending a heap more than was taken in then we wouldn’t have a $16,000,000,000,000 debt.

How naive Ron, marching in lockstep to the conservative movement propaganda. First of all it is the American people that insisted on spending that money. We wanted tax cuts, we wanted to show Iraq who was boss on a credit card, we wanted medicare reform on a credit card we wanted corporate America to ship jobs overseas We know this because we voted the same group of conservatives into office a second time. Using those we elected as scapegoats allows us to avoid responsibility but it just isn’t so.

Secondly if we had jobs for those that wanted to work, real jobs not Mcjobs, our economy would be better off and the debt would be a more manageable percent of GDP. Jobs allow for additional revenue and also nix the need for money from the feds to pay for unemployment insurance for those looking for work. A lack of jobs is the problem not the debt.

Posted by: j2t2 at December 5, 2012 9:45 PM
Comment #358204
It’s a waste of time trying to open the mind of ideologue.

John wouldn’t an ideologue be advocating a for an ideology not against an ideology? But you are right you conservatives are as closed minded as they come.


Those who are somewhat objective and tired of the same old, same old, who are just dropping by here to read a few threads and posts are the ones I’m after.The j2t2’s and Stephen’s are lost and not ever coming around.

That is because your tired old ideology is a failure John. The conservative movement is a sick joke anymore as trends farther and farther to the right. Their mythology has been proven to be wrong. That is why instead of arguing the points I raised you end up with silly blathering and personal attacks.


This goes for the rest of the neck nuzzlers who seem to have been scared off.

I would suggest John that they are bored to tears with the personal attacks and would prefer instead intelligent debate on the issue. Ya just might try it once.

Posted by: j2t2 at December 5, 2012 10:52 PM
Comment #358205

I ain’t the one that told Bush to send our troops into Iran j2. And I doubt very much 99.9% of the rest of Americans did either. And I didn’t tell him to cut taxes either. Believe it or not he came up with both ideas himself.
And I’m sure you didn’t tell Obama to waste billions on stupid stimulus packages for his cronies. I sure as hell know I didn’t.
I ain’t talked to one person, conservative or liberal that wanted corporations to send jobs overseas. In fact most on both sides are pissed at it.
We ain’t had a conservative President since Reagan. And he was suspect. And we sure as hell ain’t had a conservative congress in my life time. So I don’t get where you get the idea that we voted conservatives in for two terms at any time. But we’ve sure voted liberals in a whole heap if times.
Our economy sure would be better off if every one had jobs. But thanks to the liberals we’re very close to a depression that will make the one in the 30’s look like a boom. And they’re trying to push us on over the edge with their bickering about how stop it from happening.
I don’t know how you can look at 16 trillion dollars of debt and say there ain’t a problem.
Unemployment is a problem. But $16,000,000,000,000 of debt is the biggest one.
Take off the partisan blinders j2. And take a good look around. You just might find out you’ve been deceived by the duopoly that’s been running this country for way to long.
Or are you afraid too.
One more quick thing. Neither the Republicans or the Democrats give a rats butt about you. The only thing they care about is grabbing as much power as they can. They both serve special interest. The Republicans big corporations. The Democrats the fringe loonies. Unless your in one of these two categories neither care about you until election time.

Posted by: Ron Brown at December 5, 2012 11:45 PM
Comment #358215

>blockquote>We ain’t had a conservative President since Reagan. And he was suspect. And we sure as hell ain’t had a conservative congress in my life time

Sorry C&J but we have had a run of conservatives, Clinton being the best of the bunch. Reagan, GHWB, and GWB were all conservatives despite your unwillingness to accept this fact. We have had mostly conservative led congress during that time as well. The 104th,105th led by Newt, Trent Lott and Thurmond. The 106th and 107th led by Hasert, Lott, Delay and Armey. The 108th and 109th led by Stevens Frist McConnell, Hasert Delay Blount.As well as the 112th led by Tea Baggers controlling the House leader Bohner.

So Ron take off your rose colored glasses stop swilling the kool aid it has been conservatives leading the way much of the last 40 years, almost since the Reagan revolution remember that? Until conservatives can accept responsibility for what they have wrought, despite denial of the same, we will be held hostage by those set on drowning the federal government in a bath tub.

I ain’t the one that told Bush to send our troops into Iran j2. And I doubt very much 99.9% of the rest of Americans did either. And I didn’t tell him to cut taxes either. Believe it or not he came up with both ideas himself.

Such a sad line Ron. Tis why an intervention is needed for many conservatives like yourselves. The cult has you believing this nonsense. Time to turn off Faux and other conservative propaganda outlets Ron. Time for the reality to sink in.

It was you and millions of others just like you voting and supporting conservatives in Congress as well as supporting GWB to the point of reelection that were directing your representatives in government. War and tax cuts were conservative issues Ron accept it. Conservatives clamored for revenge for the twin towers, Conservatives wanted lower taxes, my god man these are core ideological principles of conservatives. Starve the beast, drown the government in the bath tub.

Posted by: j2t2 at December 6, 2012 10:04 AM
Comment #358219

If you think the likes of Bill Clinton is conservative you have to be somewhere left of Ho Chi Mien j2.
True he had the sense to move slightly to the right when the Republicans took control of Congress in 94. But that wouldn’t take much moving since the Republicans are only on step right of the Democrats.
Here’s a little fact that you either can’t grasp, or won’t grasp in your hatred of anyone that disagrees with you. Any conservatives that were in the Republican party left it over 30 years ago. It wasn’t resenting their interest anymore with it’s constant move left. A whole heap of them looked to the Libertarian party. But it doesn’t really represent conservatives. That’s why a whole heap of us are independent.
So when you want to blame the Republicans for things your blaming your fellow liberals. They may not be as far left as you are. But they’re definitely way left of center.
But your liberal cult won’t let you see that. The hate group you belong to also won’t let you see that others might have good ideas. Y’all couldn’t admit that someone you disagree with did a good job even if they managed to clean up this mess we’re in.
Are you trying to tell me that over 3,000 of your fellow Americans died at enemy hands and you didn’t want to see those responsible pay for what they’ve done?
Do you really think it OK for folks to attack our country and not pay the consequences?
The attack on the Twin towers was an act of war and called for more than shooting a couple missiles into a sand dune somewhere, which was Bill Clinton’s style.
You say you were in the military. Did you ever go to war? If so you’d know the last thing that anyone that’s been there wants to see is our nations kids going to war and dieing. Unfortunately it has to happen sometimes. And when this country is attacked is one of them.
Or maybe you think that we should roll over and play dead while those that hate us walk all over us. That sounds like the typical liberal view. Specially for someone left of Uncle Ho.

Posted by: Ron Brown at December 6, 2012 2:31 PM
Comment #358220

That should be: It wasn’t representing their interest anymore.
Although it was most likely resenting them.

Posted by: Ron Brown at December 6, 2012 2:33 PM
Comment #358223

“it has been conservatives leading the way much of the last 40 years”

So Conservatives have lead the way since 1972?

Dems held Senate 25 of those years.
Reps held Senate 15 of those years.

Dems held House 29 of those years.
Reps held House 12 of those years.

Dems held both House and Senate for 23 of those years.
Reps held both House and Senate for 10 of those years.
Split during remaining years.

Interesting how you guys chose to go back only 40 years though. Now why would you do that?

For instance, if we go back to 1945:

Dems have held Senate for 48 years.
Reps have held Senate for 19 years.

Dems have held House for 54 years.
Reps have held House for 14 years.

Let me guess, those were conservative Dems and don’t count, right? LOL!

“Starve the beast, drown the government in the bath tub.”

Facts and reality have proven different J2. The massive debt and grossly obese government that we have today are proof that ‘gorge the beast and drown the individual’ has been how our government has been ran for the past 40, 50, 60 etc… years.

I don’t believe Ron is the one who has the problem with vision and drink.

Posted by: kctim at December 6, 2012 3:51 PM
Comment #358236

And they just can’t fathom why they lost.

Posted by: Jeff at December 6, 2012 10:15 PM
Comment #358237

Jeff
The reason the Republicans lost is because Obama able to lie better than Romney. He promised more pie in the sky than Romney did. And the voters fell for it. It’s a sad state of affairs when folks vote for what they can get from the government rather than what’s best for the country.
The country is a long way from John Kennedy’s “Ask not what what your country can do for you. But ask what you can do for your country.” It’s now asking and voting for the idiot that promises the most pie in the sky.
If John Kennedy was alive today he’d be a conservative.

Posted by: Ron Brown at December 7, 2012 12:58 AM
Comment #358242

If Kennedy was alive today, he would be castigated by the left.

Posted by: Billinflorida at December 7, 2012 11:01 AM
Comment #358273

Blah blah blah lied blah blah gifts blah blah People are not buying it.

Posted by: Jeff at December 7, 2012 8:42 PM
Comment #358387
If you think the likes of Bill Clinton is conservative you have to be somewhere left of Ho Chi Mien j2.

Ron Clinton reformed welfare and balanced the budget, which is more than Saint Reagan, GHWB or GWB has done since then.


Here’s a little fact that you either can’t grasp, or won’t grasp in your hatred of anyone that disagrees with you. Any conservatives that were in the Republican party left it over 30 years ago.

Only some of the batshit crazy extremist conservatives left that long ago Ron. I would suggest that it is you that has the hatred issue as it was conservatives and conservatism that has been the guiding ideology regardless of which party has had leadership in the Congress. You probably hate the results of what the conservative have wrought and feel the need to call them liberals but the reality is it was the conservatives. Time to accept that responsibility Ron.

You can deny Delay, Frist, Gingrich, et al I mentioned earlier are conservatives but it is laughable Ron. The first step on the road to recovery is to accept the reality of this.

So when you want to blame the Republicans for things your blaming your fellow liberals. They may not be as far left as you are. But they’re definitely way left of center.

Yeah Ron I’m the brainwashed one in a cult! This bit says it all. The denial is amazing. I’m going to have to take Mr. Twain’s advice here and stop arguing with you.

http://www.quoteee.com/funny-quotes/mark-twain-2/

Are you trying to tell me that over 3,000 of your fellow Americans died at enemy hands and you didn’t want to see those responsible pay for what they’ve done?

No Ron I’m not. I am saying going into Iraq had little to do with Bin Laden though, I am also saying that it was conservatism that, for the first time in our history, lowered taxes while going to war.

You say you were in the military. Did you ever go to war? If so you’d know the last thing that anyone that’s been there wants to see is our nations kids going to war and dieing.

Tell that to GWB and Cheney, Ron. Because it was those conservatives that led us into Iraq hunting for nonexistent WMD’s on our grandkids dime while enjoying tax cuts.

Or maybe you think that we should roll over and play dead while those that hate us walk all over us. That sounds like the typical liberal view.

All I can say to this bit of blather Ron is thank God it was FDR that led us into WWII. Had it been a conservative we would have attacked China after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.

Which leads me to this- Pearl Harbor day was yesterday.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/12/06/presidential-proclamation-national-pearl-harbor-remembrance-day-2012

Posted by: j2t2 at December 8, 2012 3:08 PM
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Your right j2, Clinton did reform welfare. And he did it with a Republican Congress. It would have never made it through a Democrat held one. And I give Clinton the credit for doing it.
I ain’t hated anyone since LBJ. Not even Carter. The worse President until now. And believe it or not I don’t hate him.
I strongly disagree with him. And I believe he’s incompetent. But I don’t hate him.
But then I reckon you equate disagreement with hate.

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