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A few hours before the polls open. Nobody knows who will win. I have never seen an election where the outcome is so uncertain. No matter who wins, that man will be our president, mine and yours. Anybody who doesn’t support the winner is not a good American. A democracy requires this. So if Obama wins, I will write a post about the good things we can expect. I challenge my liberal friends to do them same if the outcome is the other way around.

Lets look at it the other way around. If my man wins, I will try to reach out to the nearly other half of Americans who made the other choice. They have acted sincerely and they did what they thought best. I expect the same from the other side.

Of course, I reserve the right to gloat for a little while and I won't hold it against those of the opposition if they do it too ... for a little while. But when it is all done, we need to respect our opposition. They are Americans too.

I do not wish the opposition good luck, since I hope for the opposite. But I do hope that we call all come together for a short time, before we fight about all sorts of things again, within the norms of democracy.

It is our duty. Let's do it.

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Comment #356491

Would be nice C&J, but this election will only further divide us. Especially if Romney were to somehow win.

Posted by: kctim at November 5, 2012 5:13 PM
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When I was in the Army I had superior, and inferior, officers that I personally respected and some that I didn’t. I saluted all and obeyed all legitimate orders whether I agreed or not. Rank was always respected while the person wearing the rank might not have been. For law and order to prevail it must be this way in our Democratic Republic.

I intend to treat any president, as commander-in-chief, the same way.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 5, 2012 6:07 PM
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Even though I don’t plan to vote for him, I will give Mitt Romney the respect he deserves if he somehow manages to win. This is something that was not afforded to Obama 4 years ago when prominent conservatives stated that they would do everything in their power to make Obama fail and ensure that he would be a 1-term president. But unlike the far right, I am a loyal and patriotic citizen who gives deference to our electoral system.

Posted by: Warped Reality at November 5, 2012 6:20 PM
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“Would be nice C&J, but this election will only further divide us. Especially if Obama were to somehow win.”

I fixed your typo for you.

Posted by: Joseph at November 5, 2012 6:31 PM
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I’m happy with Romney’s performance running a successful campaign. He did not repeat McCain’s mistakes and Obama has been on the defensive despite a mainstream media doing what it can to protect him and his reelection chances. The biased polls that are weighing Democrats over Republicans are tied. It’s truly remarkable Romney was able to accomplish what he has against Obama’s campaign machine.

At the very least, Romney and the Republicans have sent a clear message to Obama and the Democrats.

The American people are against Obama’s policies and have voted for Republicans in the House in the 2010 mid terms and will vote for Republicans AGAIN in the House in 2012.

In other words, if Obama wins reelection, it won’t matter. He will not advance his policies.

If Obama should win, I hope the Republicans continue to fight against his policies. I don’t want Republicans to give an inch.

This election if not about the man, it’s about the policies. I do not support Obama’s policies, and therefore, I voted for Romney for President and Republicans for Congress.

Posted by: Joseph at November 5, 2012 6:48 PM
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Joseph,

If Obama is reelected and Democrats gain in the House & Senate, will that not be a rejection of conservative policies from the American Electorate?

What I fear is that if the above comes to pass, conservatives will whine that Romney was a “RINO” and “not conservative enough” and that this is still a “center-right nation”. If the GOP loses the Presidency and fails to make gains in either house of Congress then that complaint is a bunch of baloney. The GOP will have lost because its political philosophy is outside of the American mainstream. Conservatism might win midterm elections with lower voter turnout, but it will be shown to be a loser in a Presidential election year.

Posted by: Warped Reality at November 5, 2012 6:59 PM
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Correction: This election is not about the man, it’s about the policies. I do not support Obama’s policies, and therefore, I voted for Romney for President and Republicans for Congress.

To add to that:

I don’t give a rats ass about skin color. I’m tired of this talking point by Democrats. The majority of white people voted for Obama in 2008.

In the 2010 mid terms, Americans had buyers remorse and voted against his policies by voting for Republicans in the House. It was NOT because of “racist” white people not supporting a black man. It was because Americans do not support the President’s record or his policies.

In 2012, Republicans will maintain a majority in the House. Republicans may even gain MORE seats.

It’s obvious that Obama is popular because of his character and personality and not because of his POLICIES.

Obama is a good man and I, as a conservative, do not support the character assassination attempts by some in regards to his birth certificate and patriotism. I honestly believe Obama wants what he believes is best for the country. The problem is, he’s policies are the wrong policies.

Americans agree. Americans voted against his policies in 2010 and 2012 by overwhelmingly voting Republicans in the house

Again, this election is not about the man, it’s about the policies.

If Obama wins, it will be because he’s a “nice guy” that “cares” about people.

However, while Americans have voted for a nice guy to be the President, they voted against that nice guy’s policies by voting for Republicans in the House in 2010 and 2012.

Posted by: Joseph at November 5, 2012 7:03 PM
Comment #356521

If Romney wins his sons will be running for president the rest of our lives. We have to stop it here and now at the source.

Posted by: Adam Ducker at November 5, 2012 7:59 PM
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My god your right that’s frigging scary.

Posted by: Jeff at November 5, 2012 9:57 PM
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The good news for the GOP is that Obama will have no mandate even if he does win the election since the election will be extremely close.

Posted by: Jacquelyn F. Gerlach at November 5, 2012 11:19 PM
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Perhaps good for the GOP Jacquelyn but bad for the country. The time has come for the GOP to get out of the way of progress. To put country before party.

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Posted by: Election at November 6, 2012 3:56 AM
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Anybody who doesn’t support the winner is not a good American.

C&J I have been thinking about this for a while and while I can understand your reasoning I would have to disagree with your stance on the issue should Romney win the election.

For starters Romney has lowered the bar, Romney and the repubs/conservatives that have slithered to the moral low ground to vote for this man. The man is a pathological liar. Anyone and everyone that votes for him knows this before voting for him. I’m not talking the usual politics and the political half truths and exaggerations that are customary C&J. I am talking outrageous lies, Jeep as an example, that have tainted anyone voting for Romney as lacking in character. With the active suppression and scare tactics of tea baggers and other conservatives Romney well be damaged goods from the git go.

The same people that are voting for Romney are the ones that have not been good Americans the past 4 years. They are now supporting a political party that is actively suppressing the vote in at least 2 key states. This win at any cost attitude does not deserve the support of decent Americans IMHO. It is a shame we actually need UN voting monitors here in this country.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 6, 2012 4:07 AM
Comment #356591

If Obama wins, I will know that the man who saved the auto industry, killed Bin Laden, turned our economy around, fought for and got progress in giving gays equal rights in the military and in marriage, who did what Clinton could not do in passing healthcare reform, who ended the War in Iraq, etc. will continue to be our leader.

What can I expect but vague promises and a repetition of the Bush policies I so hated? What is there to be overjoyed about, when almost the entire GOP agenda is a pathologic throwback to the failed policies of before?

I have no reason to be optimistic about Romney policies. If he gets elected, it’s only because Republicans stirred up a bunch of hatred for a President whose achievements couldn’t shine on their own, thanks to coming into office with every crisis in the book dogging his heels.

If he gets elected, it will be because partisan secretaries of state deliberately did their best to make it hard for his supporters to get to the polls, all in the name of staving off a voter fraud epidemic which itself is a fraud.

Do you really think you can sow such hatred and division, and not reap it in return when you expect people to sign off on your President’s first term? Republicans learned nothing from how bad Bush’s first year was, nothing from the lack of the benefit of the doubt he came into office with. You can’t play dirty, can’t rage and rant at us for four years to get the Presidency back, to get Congress, back, and then expect people to be happy.

You are sowing the seeds of people’s division against you, by using divisive forces in order to win.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at November 6, 2012 7:18 AM
Comment #356597

Once again Stephen Daugherty is blaming the Romney win on Republicans stealing the election by not allowing people to vote. Stephen is getting his narrative ready…

Posted by: Frank at November 6, 2012 7:44 AM
Comment #356598

This explains it all in my state of Ohio:

“President Obama’s big rally tonight turned out to be just like his first, opening salvo of the 2012 campaign: a half-empty arena in Ohio. According to RealClearPolitics’ Scott Conroy, there were “empty seats scattered around the upper-level of Nationwide Arena … Four years ago, after all, Obama was easily filling venues larger than that …” The event even featured Bruce Springsteen and Jay-Z, and Obama still couldn’t fill it out.
As it turns out, the empty seats didn’t look exactly “scattered.” They looked like substantial portions of the upper bowl of the arena, according to photos tweeted by those in attendance:”


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/05/Obama-closes-to-half-empty-stadium-in-Ohio

Posted by: TomT at November 6, 2012 7:48 AM
Comment #356627

Stephen

“If he gets elected, it will be because partisan secretaries of state deliberately did their best to make it hard for his supporters to get to the polls, all in the name of staving off a voter fraud epidemic which itself is a fraud.”

To quote Adrienne - this is just bull shit. You should not engage in such lies. It is unpatriotic. You should be ashamed to do such things on our election day.

Posted by: C&J at November 6, 2012 2:02 PM
Comment #356637

Stephen is a narrow minded, unyielding, brainwashed, untrained, pseudo journalist who must have been bullied relentlessly by a kid whose father was a Republican office holder, or dropped on his head by a Repub babysitter. His myopic condition is not normal.

If O wins, you will not find me showing him respect or bowing down to him. If you are in the military, he is your Commander in Chief. He is not mine and I owe him nothing. My wife and I debated on who to vote for in 2008. We decided on McCain. I then watched O ignore all his campaign promises and spend all his efforts on healthcare and giving money away his first two years. He is lazy. He does not know how to use his position to move things forward. He makes excuses. He is a good public speaker. He now makes my skin crawl. There is a massive chunk of Americans who feel the same way. Early on I liked the guy, but we ended up with a guy who did not resemble the guy we heard campaigning.

Posted by: John Johnson at November 6, 2012 4:43 PM
Comment #356642

Amen to that John Johnson, I hear ya talking…

Re/Stephanie Doughboy; it is for the reasons you list, that he is commonly known as “Dumbass”.

Posted by: Frank at November 6, 2012 5:24 PM
Comment #356645

By the way, he has admitted on numerous occasions, he was bullied as a child. In fact, Stephanie loves to talk about himself.

Posted by: Frank at November 6, 2012 5:27 PM
Comment #356646

Jack wants us to play nice. After Romney and his party lied non-stop and blew the dog whistle and attacked Obama at ever opportunity? When Paul Ryan was just yesterday saying that Obama “compromises Judeo-Christian, Western civilization values.”
I’m not about to play nice with your party’s fascistic horseshit. Ever.

Stephen:
“If he gets elected, it will be because partisan secretaries of state deliberately did their best to make it hard for his supporters to get to the polls, all in the name of staving off a voter fraud epidemic which itself is a fraud.”

The Republican machine and their supporters are willing to lie, cheat, steal, and stoop to ANYTHING in order to win.

Just a few of the many despicable stories:

Oregon election worker fired for altering ballots to Republican straight ticket
Maybe the GOP has become so worried about voter fraud because they know their party is chock full of people willing to try illegal shit like this.

PA voting machine ‘taken out of service’ for flipping votes to Romney: report
Watch the video there.

Registered Philadelphia voters forced to cast provisional ballots: report
Provisional ballots won’t be counted for at least a week after the election.

To be continued…

Posted by: Adrienne at November 6, 2012 5:30 PM
Comment #356649

Why Was Uncertified ‘Experimental’ Software Installed on ES&S Tabulation Systems in 39 OH Counties Just Days Before Presidential Election?
Go ahead — take a wild guess.

Houston NAACP: ‘True the Vote’ ‘Attacking’ Volunteers for Giving Water to Voters in Line
Proof of what “Good Christians” these Teabaggers are.

Dirty Tricks: iPad ‘Vote at Home’ Suppression Scheme Reported in Ohio
Suppression scheme geared to the young first-time Democratic voter.

To be continued…

Posted by: Adrienne at November 6, 2012 5:44 PM
Comment #356651

Adrienne, instead of linking to all this BS, why don’t you start working on your Obama concession speech.

Posted by: Frank at November 6, 2012 5:56 PM
Comment #356652

Republican Arrested After Allegedly Attempting to Vote Twice in Nevada
While sporting a white lace blouse as pure as the driven snow!

NAACP accuses Mississippi country clerk of failing to process thousands of voter registrations
Long lines in minority districts, giving them wrong info, or provisional ballots to registered voters, and all this throw-out-the-registration crap = The New Jim Crow.

Disgraceful: 6-Hour Lines for Early Voting in FL
Once again Florida proves that Republicans in charge of elections (especially in the black and brown precincts) = fiasco.

Posted by: Adrienne at November 6, 2012 5:56 PM
Comment #356653

Why don’t you go f*ck yourself Frank? After all, you’re the master baiter of WB.

Posted by: Adrienne at November 6, 2012 6:00 PM
Comment #356654

Heck Frank that’s all Adrienne knows is left wing BS links, I don’t think she ever linked to a reputable source.

Posted by: KAP at November 6, 2012 6:02 PM
Comment #356655

Looks like Adrienne is in top form today.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 6, 2012 6:04 PM
Comment #356656

Adrienne you are exactly right. All of a sudden these conservatives that have spent so much effort suppressing the vote, intimidating and misinforming voters now want to try to reclaim the moral high ground, But they don’t deserve it, Take your “You should not engage in such lies. It is unpatriotic. You should be ashamed to do such things on our election day.” and shove it C&J. It is the repub/conservative tea bagging Koch suckers that are unpatriotic and it is they that should be ashamed of their actions on election day.

For those that want to dismiss any of these links, prove it. Prove your inane comments are true or the comments Adrienne linked to are false or shut up, your silly rebuttals show ignorance and we have seen enough of that already today.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 6, 2012 6:12 PM
Comment #356657

All who violate election laws should be prosecuted.

Posted by: Royal Flush at November 6, 2012 6:15 PM
Comment #356659

I’ve never done this in @ 12 years of participating on WB. But I’ve had it. You all know I never go this route. Sorry KAP & kctim & C&J & Rhinehold & everyone else, but this needs to be said.

Frank. John Johnson.

You’re a troll. You’re a piece of crap. You’re a piece of shit. Go fuck yourself. Get off this site.

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2012 6:33 PM
Comment #356661

And as long as you continue the personal attacks on others, I’ll keep it up. I’ll call you for what you are- a troll- until you stop or go away.

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2012 6:43 PM
Comment #356667

phx8, you might also want to expend some of your literary talent createing a Obama concession speech.

If I didn’t know better, I would think phx8 has inside information to the election results. Is it that bad???

Posted by: Frank at November 6, 2012 7:04 PM
Comment #356670

Knock off the personal attacks, Frank. Stop. The comment you just made to me is fine. The personal attacks you make, the insults and name calling you direct at others, particularly Stephen, are low. Stop. Knock off the personal attacks. You want to talk politics? No problem. Throw in the occasional dig, a flame here and there? Fine. But stop the personal attacks. Stop the name calling.

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2012 7:32 PM
Comment #356671

This isn’t about politics. This is about how we relate to each other. I realize the internet provides anonymity. Nevertheless, if you want to interact… anyway, you don’t need me to say this, you know it perfectly well… Come on. Knock off the name calling and personal insults.

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2012 7:37 PM
Comment #356672

C&J,
You’re welcome to delete my comments. I’ve made my point.

Posted by: phx8 at November 6, 2012 7:38 PM
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Thanks phx you did what a lot us have been wanting to do.

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