Biden Had a Blunder-ful Trip in VA

Vice President Joe Biden lost his brainless head while giving a speech in Danville, Virginia on Tuesday. While making an attempt to throw a jab at Romney’s position with Wall Street and big banks, Biden said, “He is going to put ya’ll back in chains.” It doesn’t get much more ignorant than that.

Romney's camp responded saying, "The comments made by the Vice President of the United States are not acceptable in our political discourse and demonstrate yet again that the Obama Campaign will say and do anything to win this election," and also suggesting, "President Obama should tell the American people whether he agrees with Joe Biden's comments."

With equal opportunity employment and human resources, there are many Americans who would be fired for saying something like that. This is a perfect example of how Joe Biden never should've made it to where he is. It's not a question of filter; it's a question of brain activity. To top it off, while ending his speech in Danville, VA, Biden exclaims, "With you we can win North Carolina again!"

What's also funny about the accusation Biden made of Romney in regards to Wall Street, is the assumption Romney/Ryan are "going to let the big banks once again write their own rules." In fact, that's not the initiative at all, but Obama and Biden will really say anything.

Romney clarified, "Of course you have to have laws and regulations to make free markets able to produce and to be effective. But you have to make the regulations modern and up to date." Romney also said, "Dealing with all the new regulatory burden has caused a lot of community banks to pull back - at the very time we'd like them to step forward and provide financing to small business," continued, "I'd like to get rid of Dodd-Frank and go back and look at regulation piece by piece." This is called rebuilding, opposed to the Band-Aid remedy Obama likes to offer just to make it look like he's done something.

Posted by bigtex at August 15, 2012 5:47 PM
Comments
Comment #350861

Here is the pix I get.

B and O (not the railroad) are sitting in a rockin’ chair both with a large stogie between their lips.

They are talkin’ about what shit they can have the fan use next. They are havn’ trouble with the fact they can only come up with bullshit. What they need is a kind of shit that has a flowery aroma to it, but they can’t come up with anything but bullshit.

That is what the platform of the DNC will have this fall. The DNC should be Dung Now Calling.

The sweet sounds of Tea Party wins keeps flowing throughout the land from coast to coast. Ya, I know, the left says the tea party is dead and not effective. Talk is cheap and the DNC is cheaper yet.

Now let me get to Joe “blowhard” Biden. When has he said anything truthful or honest or intelligent? When I complete the research on this I will get back to ya’.

Maranatha

Posted by: tom humes at August 15, 2012 7:24 PM
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“He is going to put ya’ll back in chains”

Notice the use of the Southern or Ebonics dialect from a guy who grew up in Pennsylvania. Although Biden was unsure of the exact location, he was speaking in Danville, VA. This was the last capital of the Confederacy. Was Biden trying to talk the the old master or the old slaves? Either way, isn’t it a bit racist?

Posted by: C&J at August 15, 2012 7:34 PM
Comment #350865

It’s amazing just how much reality changes when there is no context.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at August 15, 2012 8:04 PM
Comment #350867

To quote Biden…”This is a fuc*ing big deal.” Biden lacks the mental capacity to consistently utter appropriate remarks. He is the perfect match to obama. A VP who makes obama look good by how lousy he is. biden brings nothing to the table and obama likes it that way.

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 15, 2012 8:12 PM
Comment #350876

Jack Wilson,

Speaking of fantasy…

I know you don’t actually exist, yet you and your cronies continuously bombard us with adds for things nobody really needs.

So… in actuality, reality hasn’t changed.

“All what we got here’s
American made
It’s a little bit cheesey,
But it’s nicely displayed”

From “Flakes” by Frank Zappa

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at August 15, 2012 10:22 PM
Comment #350877

Rocky

As you know “Jack Wilson”, “Vivian” and a few others are Chinese contractors. They write something that looks like an actual post. I bet both of us have clicked on the hyperlink and found that they were adds. But they are getting better at this. I pity the fools who have to write this. They probably pay them pennies.

Posted by: C&J at August 15, 2012 11:14 PM
Comment #350880

Jack,

“I bet both of us have clicked on the hyperlink and found that they were adds.”

Actually, I have never clicked the link. If you hover the cursor over the hyperlink you can see where it goes.

Most of them go to cbmmart.com.

That was my first clue.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at August 15, 2012 11:38 PM
Comment #350884

Biden; it’s just gaffs…he’s the crazy old uncle that they keep in the closet…nobody pays any attention to him anyway. Or, perhaps he is losing it…

Posted by: TomT at August 16, 2012 12:56 AM
Comment #350885

You know, the time you should worry is not when the Vice Presidential candidate isn’t taken seriously, it’s when he or she is, and for the wrong reasons.

I think Biden comes across as the slightly goofy uncle, has a certain working-class charm to him. Gaffes don’t necessarily hurt him, especially not with the more unambiguously competent Obama really in charge.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at August 16, 2012 1:11 AM
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Oh, and let me say this: If Republicans want a blunderful trip to talk about, they have all the blunders you could want out of Romney’s Europe Trip.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at August 16, 2012 1:12 AM
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Stephen

The thing about Biden is that he reveals the true Obama administration thoughts.

But you are right that he is much like a crazy uncle. Nobody cares. It is instructive, however, that the media jumps so hard on Republicans who say similar things. Imagine that chains comment if a Republican had uttered it.

Re Romney - he made the mistake of telling truth in London. He did a wonderful job in Poland and Israel, but the media you read didn’t report on that.

Posted by: C&J at August 16, 2012 6:44 AM
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I’m glad that Joe Biden is calling out the racism of the Republican Party. Black people aren’t stupid. They no doubt understood exactly what Biden was trying to tell them about what Romney will do if elected: hurt them more than the Congressional Republicans are already hurting them. People who have any sense at all already understand that the GOP is chock-full of loathsome racists and white supremacists. It’s just so obvious everywhere you look.

Look at what the GOP is doing with their voter suppression in the swing states. They’re blatantly disenfranchising the black vote — and everyone with any sense knows this. too.

I believe the left should feel free to be honest and start calling the GOP on exactly what they are: the despicable, racist, old, wealthy, white people’s party.

Posted by: Adrienne at August 16, 2012 2:00 PM
Comment #350909

It would appear the cheese has slid completely off Adriennes cracker. No punn intended. Ok maybe it was.

Posted by: dbs at August 16, 2012 4:50 PM
Comment #350912

How could you leave out his 20th Century remark? Are you dems ok with having a VP that has dementia?

Posted by: BZA at August 16, 2012 5:23 PM
Comment #350914

I have just deleted one comment. Please keep the profanity to a minimum.

Posted by: Editor at August 16, 2012 5:38 PM
Comment #350915

“I’m glad that Joe Biden is calling out the racism of the Republican Party. Black people aren’t stupid. They no doubt understood exactly what Biden was trying to tell them about what Romney will do if elected: hurt them more than the Congressional Republicans are already hurting them. People who have any sense at all already understand that the GOP is chock-full of loathsome racists and white supremacists. It’s just so obvious everywhere you look.

Look at what the GOP is doing with their voter suppression in the swing states. They’re blatantly disenfranchising the black vote — and everyone with any sense knows this. too.

I believe the left should feel free to be honest and start calling the GOP on exactly what they are: the despicable, racist, old, wealthy, white people’s party.”

Posted by: Adrienne at August 16, 2012 2:00 PM

Honestly, I am in total amazement at Adrienne’s comments. She complains that someone would accuse her of “talking out her ass, because her mouth knows better”, and then she comes out with a blanket stamen like this one. The left believes Adrienne should be treated like a lady; yet these comments are far from ladylike. I honestly expect to get a real tongue lashing with the “F” bomb included as a result of what I say; but the truth is the truth.

Conservatives make up 40% of the electorate, moderates are 40%, and liberals are 20%; which means, according to Adrienne’s unsubstantiated numbers that “the despicable, racist, old, wealthy, white people”, make up the conservatives in America. If this is true, why does the Democratic Party use the Medicare and SS scare in every election cycle? Why is Obama so concerned about the loss of Florida, and why is he pandering to the retirement communities in FL, if these people are already in the GOP? Adrienne’s logic does not make any sense.

The Democrats are out there trying to convince the American people that Biden was talking about the Banks putting people back in chains; but Adrienne knows exactly what Biden was trying to do and she is right. Biden was doing what Obama has done for 4 years; play the race card. Divide America and cause racism and division.

Adrienne, I am black and I live in a swing state that requires voter ID, and I certainly do not feel disenfranchised. I am happy that we have laws requiring ID before you can vote. This means my vote is protected. Where do you get you facts?

Dbs, you are correct; cheese off the cracker, a bubble off center, not playing with a full deck, and on and on. How do you hold an intelligent conversation with such a racist?

Posted by: Frank at August 16, 2012 5:44 PM
Comment #350916

Republicans are going to try and get people mad about Biden yelling that unpopular people running the economy are going to put folks in chains.

Democrats are going to try and get people outraged that the Vice President’s Budget, last year, basically took a hatchet to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security to pay for the tax cuts for people most folks don’t believe deserve to keep their tax cuts, much less get more.

Who do you think will do more damage?

The Republicans don’t have anything real to get people angry about, so they’ll either make up claims that their benefit gutting reforms were no different than non-benefit reducing cost cutting on the Obama Administration’s part, or they’ll get folks angry about poorly chosen words.

Democrats, Obama included, will talk about policy statements, policy proposals, the meat and potatoes of what the Republicans are standing for.

I’d say the Democrats are drawing more blood.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at August 16, 2012 5:51 PM
Comment #350917

Nothing new with Obama…

Clinton told a Philadelphia radio station that his comments were “twisted” after he likened Obama’s primary victory in the state to Jesse Jackson’s.

Clinton was asked if he regretted the comparison after a Pennsylvania official said she thought he was marginalizing Obama as “the black candidate.”

“No, I think that they played the race card on me,” he said. “We now know from memos from the campaign and everything that they planned to do it all along.”

Posted by: Rhinehold at August 16, 2012 5:52 PM
Comment #350919
Democrats, Obama included, will talk about policy statements, policy proposals, the meat and potatoes of what the Republicans are standing for.

You mean, calling them elite, money grubbing, selfish, racist, homophobic, evil Nazis who want nothing else than to eat children and throw grandmothers off a cliff?

Yeah, that’s what Democrats have been doing for decades, who is expecting anything else from them?

Posted by: Rhinehold at August 16, 2012 5:56 PM
Comment #350921

IMO - Biden is acting especially stupid so that he can fall on his sword and be replaced as VP.

Adrienne

Yeah. It is always an education to read your thought. I would not have thought such ideas were possible.

Posted by: C&J at August 16, 2012 6:04 PM
Comment #350922

Frank the Crank:

Adrienne, I am black and I live in a swing state that requires voter ID, and I certainly do not feel disenfranchised. I am happy that we have laws requiring ID before you can vote. This means my vote is protected.

Sure, Uncle Tom. Sure it is. Protected against too many black folks being able to vote for our sitting black president.

cheese off the cracker, a bubble off center, not playing with a full deck,

You’re right. That is exactly what you are.

How do you hold an intelligent conversation with such a racist?

The same way you hold a conversation with a flamebaiting troll. Mock their intense stupidity, lack of knowledge, and total inability to remain civil.

Posted by: Adrienne at August 16, 2012 6:11 PM
Comment #350927

Afrienne; “Uncle Tom”…class act, but not the first time I have been called this by liberals for being a conservative.

“The Republicans don’t have anything real to get people angry about, so they’ll either make up claims that their benefit gutting reforms were no different than non-benefit reducing cost cutting on the Obama Administration’s part, or they’ll get folks angry about poorly chosen words.
Democrats, Obama included, will talk about policy statements, policy proposals, the meat and potatoes of what the Republicans are standing for.
I’d say the Democrats are drawing more blood.”
Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at August 16, 2012 5:51 PM

Stephen Daugherty, I will try to refrain from telling you what kind of statement this is; I will simply include a few polls taken on just a few (of many) topics on the minds of the American voters. I fully expect you to attack the polls rather than deals with the results of the polls; but the substance and basic results of these particular polls can be found on other polls. What this shows us is a pattern of doubt in Obama and the Democrats to solve problems and a movement of conservatives to the forefront of the American people as the answer to our economic problems:

“A little over two weeks ago, Gallup found that the most important issues on the minds of voters are the economy, jobs, and the federal budget deficit. Today’s Gallup poll shows Obama more than twenty points underwater on all three issues, and above 60% disapproval on two of them:”

http://www.gallup.com/poll/156698/Americans-Continue-Give-Obama-Low-Marks-Economy.aspx

“The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in Florida shows Romney earning 45% support to the president’s 43%. Three percent (3%) like some other candidate, and eight percent (8%) are undecided.”

“Rasmussen Reports’ latest look at the presidential race in Ohio shows President Obama and Mitt Romney running dead even at 45% each.”

“The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Iowa Voters finds Mitt Romney with 46% support to President Obama’s 44%. Five percent (5%) prefer another candidate in the race, and six percent (6%) are undecided.”
The direction of the country:

DATE RIGHT DIRECTION WRONG TRACK
AUG 6-12
29% 63%

“At a time when most Americans report they’re paying more for groceries compared to last year, confidence in the Federal Reserve Board’s ability to keep inflation under control has fallen to a new low for 2012.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 37% of American Adults are at least somewhat confident that the Fed can keep inflation under control and interest rates down, but that includes just nine percent (9%) who are Very Confident. Fifty-seven percent (57%) lack confidence in the Fed, with 19% who are Not At All Confident.”

“The latest national telephone survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters trust Republicans more to handle the economy, while 40% place their trust in Democrats.”

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

“The latest Rasmussen Reports survey found that 48 percent of likely voters support Romney now, compared to 47 percent for Obama.

“In late July, said Rasmussen, it was Obama 49%, Romney 46%. “This is the Republican’s largest level of support yet in the Badger State. Prior to this survey, the president has earned 45% to 52% of the vote, while Romney has picked up 41% to 46% of the vote.” A Romney victory in Wisconsin this fall would be a devastating blow to Obama’s reelection.

Ryan is viewed favorably by 57% of the state’s voters and 51% of Wisconsin voters believe Romney made the right choice in tapping Ryan as his running mate, said Rasmussen.

His favorable ratings are similar nationwide, the pollster said.”

“Romney’s choice of Ryan, the leading GOP congressional budget reformer, puts entitlement programs in the spotlight this election campaign, and 66% of Wisconsin voters view Medicare favorably. That’s comparable to sentiments nationwide.

When asked which scares them more when it comes to the future of Medicare, 48% of Wisconsin voters name the president’s health care plan. Forty-two percent say Ryan’s Medicare proposal scares them more.”

If necessary, 45% of Wisconsin voters say Ryan is ready to be president, but 42% don’t share that view.”

http://washingtonexaminer.com/after-ryan-pick-romney-leading-in-wisconsin/article/2505104#.UC05_mzCz8B

I want to add this next topic to show that black leaders are outraged at the comments of Biden. I would also like to say that Obama has been losing support among blacks and Hispanics:

“America’s first black governor in modern times has become the most senior Democrat to break ranks over Joe Biden’s ‘y’all in chains’ comments, telling the Vice President: ‘Slavery is nothing to joke about.’
Douglas Wilder, who was governor of Virginia from 1990 to 1994 and the first black governor since Reconstruction, told CNN that ‘without question’ Biden’s remarks in Danville, Virginia (though the veep seemed to think he was in North Carolina) ‘were appeals to race’.
He continued: ‘The important thing I got out of this was Biden separated himself from what he accused the people of doing. As a matter of fact, what he said is they are going to do something to y’all, not to me. Not us. So he was still involved with that separate American.
‘As far as I am concerned, the President would not associate himself with those remarks. And I expect as the days go forward there will be more clarity associated with what the president feels about what Joe Biden said.”

http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/08/americas-first-black-governor-tells-joe-biden-slavery-is-nothing-to-joke-about.html

Posted by: Frank at August 16, 2012 6:51 PM
Comment #350928

Adrienne writes about Frank…”Sure, Uncle Tom. Sure it is. Protected against too many black folks being able to vote for our sitting black president.”

I have read “Uncle Tom’s Cabin” again, just recently, and it would be difficult for anyone not to admire Uncle Tom. He displays outstanding character in his love for God, family and obedience to his owners. He is deeply religious and that belief is what sustains him thru much brutality. What is it exactly Adrienne, that you despise in this character?

As for voter ID, I wrote this on the Blue Column.

Why do some dems and libs not wish to require proper identification of voters? It puzzles me. How would folks at the polling place even know if the person is old enough to vote without an ID?

Is identification not required to collect welfare benefits? Why is that? Well…my guess is to prevent fraud. Fraud still exists, but my assumption is that it is less than it would be without requiring an ID.

obama’s executive order regarding some illegals, allowing them to legally reside here, requires not only proper identification, but much more. Why is that?

How do the folks at the polling place know if the person wishing to vote is legally allowed to vote if no ID is required? With no ID requirement how would we even detect fraud?

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 16, 2012 7:22 PM
Comment #350930
I have read “Uncle Tom’s Cabin” again, just recently, and it would be difficult for anyone not to admire Uncle Tom. He displays outstanding character in his love for God, family and obedience to his owners. He is deeply religious and that belief is what sustains him thru much brutality. What is it exactly Adrienne, that you despise in this character?

An Uncle Tom is any person who makes themselves a willing participant in the oppression that is directed toward their own group.

So for instance, when a black person hears that 750,000 people — with an extraordinarily large number of them being poor black people — in the state of Pennsylvania are about to be disenfranchised from voting in November’s presidential election due to Republican sponsored voter ID laws based on ZERO cases of fraud in that state, they should be enormously bothered by that. Only an Uncle Tom would ignore it, or even try to defend such a terrible thing.

Of course, one needn’t be black or even male to rightfully deserve the Uncle Tom label. For instance, all the Republican women who believe in equal pay for equal work, or who use contraception, or who believe in the right of women to choose abortion should be standing up within their party and fighting tooth and nail with all the GOP men who are trying to treat women like second class citizens. Those who go along, must also be labeled Uncle Tom’s.

Posted by: Adrienne at August 16, 2012 7:46 PM
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Adrienne

Anybody who disagrees with you is an “Uncle Tom?”

Women, blacks, gays, Hispanics … are not allowed to have any opinions that would take them off the liberal plantation, according to you.

Everybody wants to put y’all back into chains.

Maybe not everyone wants to fall into your stereotypes. Maybe it is not possible to really judge individuals by the group, as you like to do. Maybe freedom sometimes trumps identity politics.

Posted by: C&J at August 16, 2012 8:06 PM
Comment #350940

I would suspect that Adrienne is an African-American and she uses the term “Uncle Tom” against me as a derogatory remark that I am an “Oreo”, black on the outside and white on the inside. In my 70+ years of life on God’s created earth, I have never met a black person who was so racist and who hates whites as much as Adrienne.

Adrienne wants to call anyone who disagrees with her a “Troll”, but I have to say it is Adrienne who is the troll and flamebaiter. Her comments are not meant to be logical, her comments are meant to insult whole groups of people.

Since she has come to the aid of Stephen Daugherty, perhaps Stephen would want to defend Adrienne’s remarks. Does Adrienne speak for all Democrats?

Posted by: Frank at August 16, 2012 8:42 PM
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Adrienne
Your numbers and argument are way off base. Just giving you a heads up on the error.

Maranatha

Posted by: tom humes at August 16, 2012 8:57 PM
Comment #350949

IMO, I think all the liberals and progressives are regreting they went for Obama instead of Hilliary. She would have by far been a better president for she had 8 years of experience at her side. But instead we get incompetence and a buffoon, by buffoon I am referring to Biden. Obama called Bush unpatriotic for running up the debt to 10T in 8 years, but he has topped that in less than 4 years, so speaking of unpatriotic, Obama needs to look in a mirror. Again I say YOU SHOULD HAVE PICKED HILLIARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: KAP at August 16, 2012 9:52 PM
Comment #350953

I said 4 years ago, they should have run Hillary. Bill would have helped her instead of pulling the Biden gaffs on Obama. With Hillary’s experience under her mentor Bill, she would have learned moderation and compromise:)

Posted by: TomT at August 16, 2012 10:18 PM
Comment #350955

I’m completely amused at the right being upset about Biden’s comment insinuating that Romney/Ryan wants black people ‘back in chains’. After years of over-the-top comments and positing, the right has got to expect some in return.

Besides, I think it is indeed a fair analogy to draw. I was incensed at the right’s dogged determination to ruin Bill Clinton by calling on known cheats and liars to give false testimony in the Whitewater case to bring down a standing president. But the latest move, using voter ID laws to keep likely Democratic supportive US citizens from voting when they KNOW there is no real voter fraud happening… well, that is just down right EVIL. That’s right… the Republican machine is not only dirty… they are IMMORAL and EVIL.

Defend it all you want. You are what you are if you support these laws when the voter fraud is negligent to non-existent.

Biden has it spot on.

Posted by: LibRick at August 16, 2012 11:24 PM
Comment #350956

Don’t have to defend it, Judge in PA upheld Pa’s voter ID law.

Posted by: TomT at August 16, 2012 11:32 PM
Comment #350957

Might makes right? It may be legal to require ID. If you win on that, it is a strategy. When you can’t win on your ideas… go with the strategy taken by states down here in the South. Worked for years.

Pennsylvania Burning.

Posted by: LibRick at August 16, 2012 11:58 PM
Comment #350963

Frank the Crank:

I would suspect that Adrienne is an African-American

Nope — although I do have a huge number of friends who are. But me personally, I just really hate Racists and Uncle Tom’s and I always have.

and she uses the term “Uncle Tom” against me as a derogatory remark

Right, because if you think disenfranchisement of poor black people is okay, then the shoe fits.

I have never met a black person who was so racist and who hates whites as much as Adrienne.

You don’t even know me, but making comments like this is typical behavior for internet trolls. You idiots and your personal remarks — this kind of flamebaiting is your stock in trade.

Adrienne wants to call anyone who disagrees with her a “Troll”, but I have to say it is Adrienne who is the troll and flamebaiter.

Ha! Nice try DUMBASS!

Her comments are not meant to be logical, her comments are meant to insult whole groups of people.

Right now, I’m looking at you, DUMBASS!

Since she has come to the aid of Stephen Daugherty, perhaps Stephen would want to defend Adrienne’s remarks.

No, I can stand on my own, and no one has ever needed to defend my comments but me. In fact, there is no doubt in my mind that Stephen disapproves of how I’ve been giving you trolls a taste of your own medicine, and that being the case he’d be the last person who I’d expect to jump to my defense.

Does Adrienne speak for all Democrats?

Nope. Just for myself, DUMBASS!

Jack:

Anybody who disagrees with you is an “Uncle Tom?”

No. I’ll repeat: An Uncle Tom is any person who makes themselves a willing participant in the oppression that is directed toward their own group.

Maybe not everyone wants to fall into your stereotypes. Maybe it is not possible to really judge individuals by the group, as you like to do. Maybe freedom sometimes trumps identity politics.

Yeah sure — and maybe that’s exactly what John Lewis and everybody else was thinking to themselves as they marched across the Edmund Pettus Bridge — just before they began being beaten, and before troopers began charging them on horseback simply because they wanted to vote back in 1965.
Or, maybe they were thinking the exact opposite.

Adrienne Your numbers and argument are way off base.

No, they’re correct. And as usual, you Fox news watchers aren’t being made aware of numbers that are based on the actual real life circumstances.

Maranatha

Still waiting to be raptured on out of here, eh? I wouldn’t hold your breath.

Don’t have to defend it, Judge in PA upheld Pa’s voter ID law.
Quote from the above link:
The plaintiffs aren’t done fighting and have already vowed to appeal to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. A federal court challenge could also be in the works.

If they fail, we many expect voting in the state to be complete chaos — much like with the rampant disenfranchisement that took place in Ohio back in 2004. (Of course, Ohio is also dealing with new Republican voter ID laws as well.)

It’ll be a guaranteed madhouse in Phili — with lots of angry and irate people. Also from the link:

Recent estimates have suggested that as many as 43 percent of residents of Philadelphia lack the proper ID to vote—and those voters, like others in urban areas, would lean heavily Democratic. At the same time, some have argued that the law could adversely affect seniors, who may be inclined to vote Republican.

Personally, I fear that violence will break out. I grew up across the river in Jersey, so I know exactly what to expect from folks in Phili when they feel they’re being disrespected and shat all over.

LibRick:

Might makes right? It may be legal to require ID. If you win on that, it is a strategy. When you can’t win on your ideas… go with the strategy taken by states down here in the South. Worked for years.

Pennsylvania Burning.

Agreed. Republican Voter ID laws are The New Jim Crow. And it’s been so carefully targeted at the swing states, too. In fact, if you look closely at this GOP disenfranchisement campaign, it’s actually breaking down along counties when it comes to who has ID to vote and who doesn’t. Guess who will be most affected? Surprise! Lots, and lots of black voters. Also, keep in mind that Obama won over McCain in Pennsylvania by around 600,000 votes.

You’d think the GOP would be ashamed of themselves, but they’re not. They no longer have any shame, or ethics, or morality. It’s only about them winning now, and they knew they couldn’t win unless they went out of their way to destroy democracy and cheat our citizens out of their votes, so that is exactly what they orchestrated. It’s just as you said earlier: immoral and evil.

Posted by: Adrienne at August 17, 2012 2:57 AM
Comment #350964

Frank

I think what Adrienne has is called white guilt. She’s not black but thinks she has the right to speak for an entire race. I’m a white guy, and choose to judge each seperately according to thier actions, and content. Character matters. arguing with her is a waste of valuable time. Life is too short.

Posted by: dbs at August 17, 2012 5:01 AM
Comment #350966

Adrienne

“You don’t even know me, but making comments like this is typical behavior for internet trolls. You idiots and your personal remarks — this kind of flamebaiting is your stock in trade.”

We know your comments over the past years. We believe that these reveal your underlying ideas. You give the impression that you hate lots of people. We regret if this does not reflect your true outlook. But you might want to be more careful in your choice of words if your words are giving us the wrong impressions over such a long term.

Re uncle Tom’s - you decide who they are and according to you any member of any minority group who is not as perpetually angry as you are is an uncle Tom. Since you state that you hate all uncle Tom’s, there are lots of women, blacks, latinos and others whom you hate because of a combination of their gender/racial makeup and their ideas.

In Adrienne world most white males are oppressors and subject to hatred and any black, woman, latino … who doesn’t enthusiastically support left wing causes is a Tom. If you do the rough math, you hate at least three quarters of the American people, who are either white oppressors or some species of “Tom”.

An interesting question is who do you hate more. Is the Tom worse because of his betrayal or is the white male worse. And if the white male is worse, are you not perhaps attacking because of his race?


Posted by: C&J at August 17, 2012 6:50 AM
Comment #350973

dbs and C&J, you are correct. Adrienne represents the very left of the far left. She is seething with hatred toward all America. I don’t think she is even living in the US. She sounds like a citizen of Iran or some other Islamic state, who hates America, and spends her time showing her disdain for the US. For all we know, she is an Al Qaeda operative. Is it possible for an American to actually believe as she does? She is talking riots and revolution in states where things don’t go her way.

“Personally, I fear that violence will break out. I grew up across the river in Jersey, so I know exactly what to expect from folks in Phili when they feel they’re being disrespected and shat all over.”


“Pennsylvania Burning.”

“Since she has come to the aid of Stephen Daugherty, perhaps Stephen would want to defend Adrienne’s remarks.

No, I can stand on my own, and no one has ever needed to defend my comments but me. In fact, there is no doubt in my mind that Stephen disapproves of how I’ve been giving you trolls a taste of your own medicine, and that being the case he’d be the last person who I’d expect to jump to my defense.

Does Adrienne speak for all Democrats?

Nope. Just for myself, DUMBASS!”

What I would like to know, is if the left on WB, including SD, support this type of thinking? If they do, then why is anyone wasting their time writing on WB?

Is it possible to hold an intelligent conversation with someone so demented as this?

Posted by: Frank at August 17, 2012 10:06 AM
Comment #350985

Sadly, no surprise to see the lefts weak attempts to excuse Bidens ridiculous fear mongering statement. Once again, we have to listen to condescending explainations about what they “really” meant to say.
Also no surprise to see Obama supports such intentionally divisive words.

Sad to also see that liberals still believe blacks are too inept or stupid to know that they need an ID if they wish to vote. That liberals would rather foment discontent in hopes of violence for six months, instead of helping people get in compliance with the law.

Posted by: kctim at August 17, 2012 12:15 PM
Comment #350990

Well surprise, surprise. Once again, all you righties have got are personal attacks. If you think I’m going to apologize for being a Progressive, think again because I won’t. If you hate the fact that I dare to call out your despicable, racist, old, wealthy white people’s political party, that’s just too bad. I’ll never stop speaking out against what your party represents, and the loathsome way it operates.

I’m only stating the obvious: the GOP has been passing voter ID laws — The New Jim Crow — on the premise of completely phony claims of fraud, and this was done to keep enormous numbers of mostly poor, but also old and disabled people, from voting — for Democrats.

The fact is, you have no valid arguments against the fact that your party of racist, old, wealthy white people is starting to represent far fewer people in America. The GOP and Moneybags Mitt Romney know that they can’t win in many of these swing states unless the GOP starts finding ways to cheat. So, the party carefully chose to target certain demographics with their voter-disenfranchisement campaign — and the elimination of the rights of those voters as well their votes is what makes it perfectly fine with all of you.

Despite all that phony “deep love” of America bumper-sticker-worthy rhetoric and fetishised flag-waving Republican politicians and their followers are now transparently despicable frauds who don’t actually believe American Democracy.

But please, go right ahead and keep attacking my character for daring to call these things out — in the vain hope that this will disguise the horrible but obvious truth.

Posted by: Adrienne at August 17, 2012 2:38 PM
Comment #350993

“The fact is, you have no valid arguments against the fact that your party of racist, old, wealthy white people is starting to represent far fewer people in America.” Adrienne

I don’t think we need an argument against such demented and racist statements.

“Sadly, no surprise to see the lefts weak attempts to excuse Bidens ridiculous fear mongering statement. Once again, we have to listen to condescending explainations about what they “really” meant to say.
Also no surprise to see Obama supports such intentionally divisive words.

Sad to also see that liberals still believe blacks are too inept or stupid to know that they need an ID if they wish to vote. That liberals would rather foment discontent in hopes of violence for six months, instead of helping people get in compliance with the law.

Posted by: kctim at August 17, 2012 12:15 PM

It’s interesting that the left presents Biden as the crazy old man, who says goofy things, and is losing his mental faculties; yet we find the crazy old man is only one heartbeat away from the Oval office. Why would the left talk so bad about Biden as being the crazy guy, excuse it as “just being Biden”, and yet have a cow over the fact that Palin or most recently Ryan, is not qualified to be VP?

Obama and the left are trying to create race problems in America. There are some interesting things going on in the Obama administration. For example, riot gear for the military for the purpose of controlling suspected rioting crowds. 450 million rounds of hollow point ammunition bought by the DHS and then another 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition baught for target practice, and the SS Administration to buy thousands of rounds of hollow point ammunition.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/social-security-administration-explains-plan-buy-174000-hollow-point-bullets

http://teapartyeconomist.com/2012/08/14/dhs-buys-750-million-additional-rounds-of-ammunition/

http://www.i360gov.com/US-military-news/2012/aug/06/dhs-buys-more-than-51-000-worth-of-riot-gear-for-upcoming-national-conventions

I might add, jacketed hollow point ammunition is not used for target practice and it is not used by the military under the Geneva Convention. Why would they buy ammunition not used by the military or law enforcement.

Posted by: Frank at August 17, 2012 3:21 PM
Comment #350995

Frank

Adriennes remarks are typical of an individual that feels the world owes them something. This is also I suspect the mindset of most career welfare recipients. Think there’s a connection ? Just sayin.

As for Biden he’s an idiot and we should be greatful that Obama is to stupid to ditch him.

Posted by: dbs at August 17, 2012 4:01 PM
Comment #350997

Frank

We know the answer. Genocide.

Who will be left to try anybody for War Crimes?

Oh, got ahead of myself. The war is against those who are against the Constitution of the United States.

Obama does not fit that category. Neither does AG Holder. Neigher does Pelozi, Reed, and most of congress.

Adrienne needs to spend more time in the surfing community.

Maranatha

Posted by: tom humes at August 17, 2012 4:07 PM
Comment #351000

“But the latest move, using voter ID laws to keep likely Democratic supportive US citizens from voting when they KNOW there is no real voter fraud happening.” Posted by lib
rick

Why would anyone assume that requiring a voter ID would keep anyone who wishes to vote, from voting? There is no charge for an ID. Somehow, those on our welfare roles and on SS and Medicaid find a way to get benefits which require positive ID and in-person interviews.

As for no evidence of voter fraud using fictional names…how would we know and detect that without an ID?

In a large city there may be many people with the same first and last name. How could the false “John Smith” be identified from the legitimate “John Smith”?

I am sure that dems or reps can find a way to get folks an ID for voting if they already somehow manage to find a way to get them a mail-in ballot or take them to the polling place. It is the party’s responsibility to encourage and help their members to vote.

Adrienne is to be pitied and prayed for which I am doing. There is nothing I can write that would get through the liberal and atheistic wall she has constructed around her mind, heart, and soul.

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 17, 2012 4:46 PM
Comment #351003

Frank, humes you’re both nut cases. Seek help.

dbs, more personal attacks. You’re refusing to address the topic of your party intentionally disenfranchising thousands of voters simply because their votes don’t help them win.

RF:

Why would anyone assume that requiring a voter ID would keep anyone who wishes to vote, from voting?

At issue is the requirement that all Pennsylvania voters produce a valid photo ID before their ballot can be counted, a substantial change from the law it was designed to replace. That law required identification only for people voting in a polling place for the first time and it allowed non-photo documents such as a utility bill or bank statement.

But some of the people who sued over the law say they will be unable to vote because they lack the necessary documents, including a birth certificate, to get a state photo ID, the most widely available of the IDs that are valid under the law.

The lawyers who provided free legal representation to the plaintiffs also warned that it will be difficult for many others to get a valid ID, and they presented testimony about workers at Department of Transportation license centers who appeared uninformed about the requirement to issue free non-drivers IDs for voting.

RF:

As for no evidence of voter fraud using fictional names…how would we know and detect that without an ID?

The original rationale in Pennsylvania’s Republican-controlled Legislature for the law — to prevent election fraud — played little role in the case before Simpson since the state’s lawyers acknowledged that they are “not aware of any incidents of in person voter fraud.” Instead, they insisted that lawmakers properly exercised their latitude to make election-related laws when they chose to require voters to show widely available forms of photo identification.

Above quotes from this article.

Adrienne is to be pitied and prayed for which I am doing. There is nothing I can write that would get through the liberal and atheistic wall she has constructed around her mind, heart, and soul.

You needn’t pity or pray for me RF. I’m both happy and proud of being a Progressive and an Agnostic.
However, you might want to pity and pray for the Republican Party, since doing away with American democracy through wide spread disenfranchisement of poor voters is something that they’re actually willing to do in order to win the election.

Posted by: Adrienne at August 17, 2012 5:25 PM
Comment #351007

Adrienne I appreciate your response and the article link you provided. I have read, and read again the article.

Previously, those who wished to vote could use some other form of ID such as a utility bill. Isn’t it possible that someone not entitled to vote could obtain a legitimate utility bill from somewhere? How would the fraud be detected?

We require positive ID for welfare benefits and benefits from entitlement programs. When I applied for SS benefits I had to prove who I was and provide much documentation. Why was that? Was it unjustified?

The article stated that free ID’s would be provided. Surely, someone wishing to vote could get someone to provide transportation just as the political parties offer free rides to polling places. If someone wishes to legally vote there are no real obstacles.

I know you didn’t request any prayers from me but I will pray for you anyhow. Glad to hear that you are happy.

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 17, 2012 6:02 PM
Comment #351012

I’m not sure about Welfare checks, but when I go to my bank and cash a check, if they have a new teller who does not know me, I am required to show a picture ID. I would assume it would be the same for someone cashing a Welfare check. Perhaps Adrienne could tell us if that is true?

From Adrienne’s link, do you suppose the judge is one of those white, racist, rich guys that she is talking about?

“Adrienne is to be pitied and prayed for which I am doing. There is nothing I can write that would get through the liberal and atheistic wall she has constructed around her mind, heart, and soul.”

Posted by: Royal Flush at August 17, 2012 4:46 PM

Royal, there is a verse in Proverbs that says if you do what you want to do for Adrienne, you will be heaping coals of fire on her head. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: Frank at August 17, 2012 6:22 PM
Comment #351032

Adrienne

Your information is in error concerning voter ID. You are stating an opinion and not based on fact or truth. When you look at the truth in PA you will hang your head in shame or acknowledge the truth.

The same argument is always presented about voter ID. It has been stated time and time again on WB that pix ID is required for many services, mostly by government institutions. Voters in most states (probably all) say that voters can get a photo free. Now how is that going to accomplish disenfranchisement of a single person? Your argument is baseless and created by someone who does not know what they are talking about.

However you claim to rebut this, it is useless because your argument has no standing.

Maranatha

Posted by: tom humes at August 17, 2012 10:58 PM
Comment #351045

Adrienne

“dbs, more personal attacks. You’re refusing to address the topic of your party intentionally disenfranchising thousands of voters simply because their votes don’t help them win.”


Requiring ID disenfranchises no one. Those without it can still cast a provisional ballot. We require ID for a laundry list of other things, and requiring someone to prove who they are in order to vote is no different. Your accusation that the right is trying to supress votes is nonsense. As far as the personal attacks, don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.

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