Progressive Wisconsin

My Wisconsin relatives, all working class, are divided in their opinions about Governor Scott Walker, as is the state. We can disagree about the ideology, but there are some facts. The $3 billion deficit is now a $300 million surplus - without new taxes. Walker passed a statewide school voucher program, eased business regulation, and enacted tort reform. Last year only 10% of Wisconsin business thought the state was heading in the right direction; the number is now 94%. After losing 150,000 jobs they year before, Wisconsin added 10,000 jobs in 2011.

Unions raised piles of money to reverse the Walker achievement and millions of dollars of out-of-state money flowed into the Wisconsin. The unions say the got a million signatures to recall the Wisconsin governor. Although Mickey Mouse and Adolph Hitler were among the "voters" who signed the petition to recall the governor, the big money did certainly buy enough legitimate signatures to justify a vote. IMO, the unions hate Walker even more because his reforms are working. Unions predicted mass layoffs and a general malaise. Instead there were few layoffs, job losses were stemmed and new jobs created.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel acknowledged that he has fulfilled his pledge of balancing the budget without new taxes and that "the sky isn't falling."

Wisconsin has always been a progressive state. Let's talk about that word - progressive. Liberals have lately taken to calling themselves "progressive," understanding that "liberal" has become pejorative, But the term belongs to no modern movement. Progressives were guys like Theodore Roosevelt and fighting Bob Lafollette. They had some characteristics in common with modern liberals, but also many things in common with modern conservatives.

In the sense that the word was used in Wisconsin, it meant well-run, efficient government that was responsive to the needs of the people. It never meant the kind of bloat that we have seen in recent years. Governor Walker has delivered a result well within the Wisconsin progressive tradition. He has made the state government leaner, more efficient, more transparent and more responsive to the taxpaying public.

If this success is allowed to stand, it might bring back a degree of real progressiveness, something today's "progressives" could not willingly abide.

Posted by Christine & John at January 28, 2012 9:05 PM
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Then the following on our fectless leader.

To Put in Mildly…….


There are actually two messages here. The first is very interesting, but the second is absolutely astounding and explains a lot.

A recent “Investor’s Business Daily” article provided very interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:

U.S. 65%

England 46%

Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:

U.S. 93%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:

U.S. 90%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:

U.S. 77%

England 40%

Canada 43%

Number of MRI scans (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:

U.S. 71

England 14

Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in “excellent health”:

U.S. 12%

England 2%

Canada 6%

And now for the last statistic:

National Health Insurance?

U.S. NO

England YES

Canada YES

Check this last set of statistics!!

The percentage of each past president’s cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet. You know that the private business sector is a real-life business, not a government job. Here are the percentages.

T. Roosevelt……………….. 38%

Taft……………………………. 40%

Wilson ……………………… 52%

Harding……………………… 49%

Coolidge……………………. 48%

Hoover………………………. 42%

F. Roosevelt………………. 50%

Truman……………………… 50%

Eisenhower……………. …. 57%

Kennedy……………………. 30%

Johnson…………………….. 47%

Nixon………………………… 53%

Ford………………………….. 42%

Carter……………………….. 32%

Reagan……………………… 56%

GH Bush……………………. 51%

Clinton …………………….. 39%

GW Bush…………………… 55%

Obama………………… 8%

This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration: only 8% of them have ever worked in private business!

That’s right! Only eight percent—-the least, by far, of the last 19 presidents! And these people are trying to tell our big corporations how to run their business?

How can the president of a major nation and society, the one with the most successful economic system in world history, stand and talk about business when he’s never worked for one? Or about jobs when he has never really had one? And when it’s the same for 92% of his senior staff and closest advisers? They’ve spent most of their time in academia, government and/or non-profit jobs or as “community organizers.” They should have been in an employment line.

Please pass this on. We’ll NEVER see these facts in the main stream media.







Posted by: Walkersupporter at January 28, 2012 9:50 PM
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I’m glad to see that the $3.5 billion Wisconsin received from the Obama stimulus plan has helped the state.

Posted by: jlw at January 28, 2012 9:52 PM
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C&J,
Did you do any research for this article? Wisconsin ranks near the bottom of all states for job creation.

http://host.madison.com/ct/business/biz_beat/biz-beat-wisconsin-ranks-th-in-private-sector-u-s/article_b712a0a2-4796-11e1-92dc-0019bb2963f4.html

Posted by: phx8 at January 28, 2012 10:11 PM
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Walkersupporter,
You fell for a hoax. How embarrassing.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/dec/02/glenn-beck/beck-says-less-10-percent-obama-cabinet-members-ha/

Posted by: phx8 at January 28, 2012 10:17 PM
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Walkersupporter,
You also fell for a hoax with the health care statistics. You really are a piece of work.

There is no such thing as “United Nations International Health Organization.” There is, however, such a thing as the WHO, the World Health Organization. The numbers you cite, presumably from an article in 2009, are unsourced. They certainly did not come from the WHO. The WHO does not even keep track of something like hip replacements.

You should stay away from such bad sources of information. It puts you in the terrible position of spreading lies. Maybe you didn’t know these were lies before today. You do now.

Posted by: phx8 at January 28, 2012 10:26 PM
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People that post ads on blogs Fu#king suck.

Posted by: Jeff at January 29, 2012 3:11 PM
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Jeff,
Amen. How stupid can a person be, to think that will result in anything?

Posted by: phx8 at January 29, 2012 3:33 PM
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How stupid can a person be, to think that will result in anything?

The marginal cost of producing those ads is vanishingly small. Even if one sucker clicks on the advertisement, the producer of the ad will make plenty of money. Also, these advertisements are nearly always generated by computer algorithms, not people.

Posted by: Warped Reality at January 29, 2012 5:48 PM
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C&J you must be exhausted after twisting that much logic into a suggestion Walker is somehow progressive. Scott Walker is no Teddy Roosevelt nor is he anything close to a progressive. He is a conservative and I use that as a pejorative.

Walker took money from the pockets of Wisconsin’s teachers, trash collectors, police, firemen and other state employees to “accomplish” what you say he has done. He has continued the onslaught of class warfare against the middle class and the country with this short term thinking.

His actions weren’t innovative in the least, it was typical corporate short term thinking. He is the poster boy for why business leaders do not make good government leaders. This is conservative principles in action not progressive principles in action. Progressives would rather have a middle class in this country, make no mistake. The hatred of government employees by conservatives is small minded short term thinking C&J, the opposite of progressive.

Progressives such as TR fought for women’s right to vote. Conservatives today use fraud and deceit to keep people from voting today. So while you make see conservatives trying to re-brand as progressives make no mistake they want to go backwards not forwards.

Posted by: j2t2 at January 29, 2012 7:32 PM
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It’s just downright funny to watch people blindly and unquestioningly regurgitate spam/hoax garbage and simply assume it’s accurate or factual because it SOUNDS like something that appeals to their ignorance and tunnel-vision.

The “United Nations International Health Organization” doesn’t exist. Never has. And that load of statistical horsesh*t that Walkersupporter posted has been debunked and exposed as an out-and-out lie too many times to count.

If these nitwits would spend 8 seconds before regurgitating this crap, and simply vet it with something as “complicated” as a simple keyword Google search, they’d save us all a lot of time and aggravation, and would save themselves from further proving to the rest of the world what morons they are.

Posted by: Gary St. Lawrence at January 30, 2012 2:24 AM
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“But the state’s accounting method falls well short of those used by publicly traded companies.”

This is one of the comments from Stephen Daugherty’s link. Perhaps Stephen Daugherty could tell us if the Obama administration and the democrats in Congress use the same accounting methods in the Fedral Budget as do publicly traded companies?

Posted by: Bill at January 30, 2012 2:46 PM
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Bill, considering the conservative fact that there are very few private sector people in Obama’s Administration, one would assume that the administration is not applying ‘publicly traded companies’ standards when it comes to accounting methods.

We would have to look to an administration that employed many ‘publicly traded companies’ employees in it’s administration to see those accounting standards applied to government. An administration like the Bush Administration.

There seems to be a considerable number of ‘publicly traded companies’ that have a problem using the accounting standards of ‘publicly traded companies.’

Posted by: jlw at January 30, 2012 6:53 PM
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The whole argument about the Walker Wisconsin budget concerns was always related to future unfunded Medicaid liabilities. That was the issue driving the need to cut public pensions, fringe benefits for health care, etc. That issue remains.

Posted by: Rich at January 30, 2012 8:49 PM
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C&J - The thing that I would be most upset about if I was from Wisconsin was that he made no mention of this radical plan while running for office. If he had won on that as part of his platform and folks still voted for him then that is on the voters. I can see a recall in this case.

Also, how much of this budget deficit was caused by the tax cuts he imposed? I heard recently that the Bush tax cuts added about 2 trillion dollars to the debt.

Posted by: tcsned at February 6, 2012 10:27 AM
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tcsned

He didn’t cut any taxes.

Posted by: C&J at February 6, 2012 7:37 PM
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Fair enough C&J, I had read that he had back when he started this thing. He still ran on a pretty deceptive platform and if the voters of Wisconcin want him recalled based on that it is the right of the citizens.

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