The Good, the Bad and the Horny: Part I

(This is the first of a 3-part series that grapples with the question: Do faithful men make better presidents? Part II will be posted on Wednesday. November 30; part III on Monday, December 5. Not for readers offended by light-hearted irreverence)

IT’S good to be king. And it’s not so bad being president either - at least, if you’re
planning on doing some - let’s find a euphemism here — some “stepping out.”

With all the attention given recently to the sexual antics and escapades of both
sitting presidents and would-be presidents, I decided to explore the question:
Do men who are faithful to their wives make better presidents? This is hardly a
trivial matter. We are, after all, in the process of electing our national leader and
the commander-in-chief of our military. Do we also expect him to be our moral
leader, our husband-in-chief as well?

Many Americans would answer "yes," taking the position that he should not only
champion policies that promote economic prosperity; represent us with dignity
and pride on the international stage; and keep us secure -- unless compelled to go
to war, in which case he should lead us to swift and decisive victory.

Yes, they assert. He must also be our moral leader, remaining faithful to his wife
regardless of the temptations he might encounter. Many go even further, arguing
that if a man is not faithful to his wedding vows, how can we expect him to be
faithful to his Oath of Office? In other words, they maintain, faithful men tend to
be good presidents and unfaithful men tend to be bad.

Testing
I decided to test that hypothesis by looking at our 13 most recent presidents,
evaluating their presidential service as either "good" or" bad," and then noting
which were faithful to their spouse and which were not.

Immediately we were beset with a problem: With the possible exceptions of
George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and James Buchanan, Americans simply
do not agree about which presidents were "good" and which were "bad." For
example, you might believe that Jimmy Carter was one of our greatest presidents,
whereas I am convinced he was an unmitigated disaster. Or I might feel that
Ronald Reagan saved the world from communism while you, on the other hand,
are quite certain that the USSR was a rotting hulk, ready to crumble from its own
internal contradictions. Reagan, you believe, played no part in the demise of
communism and might well have missed the historic event entirely had an aide
not awakened him from his nap.

The solution to the dilemma? Redefine a "good" president to mean a "successful"
or "effective" president, one who succeeded in achieving his social, economic and
military policy goals and enacting his legislative agenda.

Let's look at each of the 13 briefly, taking them in chronological order:

FDR
Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who is credited by most historians with enacting
domestic policies that ended the Great Depression and who led the Allies to
victory in World War II, did not allow polio to keep him from the bed of his wife,
Eleanor's, secretary, Missy Lehand, who was only 22 when the affair began. After
Eleanor caught the pair in flagrante, he played it safer by playing with his own
secretary, Lucy Page Mercer Rutherford. (Meanwhile, Eleanor took a lover of her
own, Lorena Hickock. But that, my friends, is a blog for another day.) Alas, FDR is
believed to have died while engaged in oral sex with Lucy... Still, if you gotta go...

TRUMAN
Harry S. Truman, FDR's veep in his fourth term, assumed the presidency upon
Roosevelt's passing in 1945 and was elected in his own right in 1948, in a historic
upset over Thomas Dewey. He also was faithful to his wife, Bess. Truman, of
course, decided to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August,
1945,, a decision that remains controversial today but one which is recognized
to have saved hundreds of thousands of lives, of both Japanese civilians and American servicemen. During the war, Truman also took an enormous step for equal rights for African-Americans by ordering the integration of the U.S. military. Economically, the red, white and blue was a-humming along under the man from Missouri.

Eisenhower
The U.S. turned to war hero, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Supreme Commander of the
Allied Forces in the European theater in World War II, and he rewarded them with
eight, mostly boring years of peace, prosperity and golf. On the home front, he
federalized the National Guard to protect nine black high school students who, in
1957, successfully integrated Little Rock's Central High School over the vociferous
and life-threatening objections of out-of-control mobs of die-hard segregationists.
Ike's farewell address, warning of the growing power of the military-industrial
complex, seems prophetic today.

On a personal level, there appears to be little evidence that, as some have
suggested, it was Eisenhower, not Michael Jordan, who founded the "bald is
beautiful" movement. However, while the majority of Americans proclaimed "I
like Ike," Kay Summersby could say she loved him, a situation that did not please
a certain Mamie Eisenhower. Ike promised Kay, his driver during the war, that he
would marry her after it ended. He never did.

JFK
The first of the three legitimate claimants to the title of First Phallus - all of
them Dems, by the way - is none other than John F. Kennedy, whose term was
cut tragically short by an assassin's bullet. Much beloved while in office and
for years afterwards, JFK and his beautiful wife, Jackie, played along with the
fairy tale depiction of their reign as the recreation of the fictional Camelot. In
reality, Kennedy accomplished very little on the domestic front while his lack
of experience in foreign affairs allowed the USSR's Nikita Khrushchev to out-
maneuver him. One result --The Cuban Missile Crisis - brought the world
literally to the brink of nuclear war in1962. He also began the escalation of
U.S. involvement in Vietnam. Nonetheless, despite a chronically painful back,
JFK's seemingly insatiable sexual appetite, allowed him to excel in the horn dog competition, where he boasted such paramours as Marilyn Monroe as well as
Mafia moll, Judith Exner. He also is reported to have thrown nude parties at the
White House pool. Sorry, only A-listers invited.

Posted by Phillip W at November 25, 2011 12:58 PM
Comments
Comment #332400

IMHO, when a man takes a wife, he is entering into a contact, before God, to love, honor, and protect his wife. It is one of the most important contacts you can enter into. IMHO, if a man would cheat on his wife, he couldn’t possibly be trusted in any other contract.

Re/a president who can’t keep his pants zipped up; he places himself in a position of blackmail and possible compromise of national security.

Posted by: Steve at November 25, 2011 5:23 PM
Comment #332401

Irrelevant and pretty much a sordid voyeur ‘hit article’.

Posted by: Rhinehold at November 25, 2011 8:12 PM
Comment #332410
Re/a president who can’t keep his pants zipped up; he places himself in a position of blackmail and possible compromise of national security

Is there any historical evidence that a president has compromised national security due to an extramarital affair? Or for that matter has been blackmailed for the same reason?

Posted by: j2t2 at November 25, 2011 11:58 PM
Comment #332424

j2t2, do you have evidence that a philandering president cannot be blackmailed? People are blackmailed all the time and you want us to believe a president is immune? Your comment is ignorant; anyone can be blackmailed if there is evidence of sexual promiscuity. The politician has one of two options. Either confess and ruin his career or pay the blackmailer. In the case of a president, it can be very dangerous. Barney Frank would have been blackmailed many years ago, if he had not come out and publically stated he liked little boys. Of course that is MA problem, not the nations.

Posted by: Steve at November 26, 2011 12:41 PM
Comment #332425


I thought this issue was settled and that conservatives consider marital infidelity an impeachable offence. And, Newt Gingrich lead the conservative impeachment of Clinton for that reason.

Posted by: jlw at November 26, 2011 12:45 PM
Comment #332427

jlw, perhaps you could provide proof that conservatives want to impeach a president for marital infidelity? Clinto was impeached for lying to a grand jury, unless you are in a process of altering history:

“The Impeachment concerned two basic charges. That “the President provided perjurious, false, and misleading testimony to the grand jury regarding the Paula Jones case and his relationship with Monica Lewinsky,” and, “the president obstructed justice in an effort to delay, impede, cover up and conceal the existence of evidence related to the Jones case.” According to the Impeachment document, by doing this, “William Jefferson Clinton has undermined the integrity of his office, has brought disrepute on the Presidency, has betrayed his trust as President, and has acted in a manner subversive of the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.”

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/21642/why_was_president_clinton_impeached.html

Posted by: Frank at November 26, 2011 1:14 PM
Comment #332447


Frank, despite being a womanizer, Clinton was an affective and well liked president.

What do you think Philip W’s motive for this article is? To confirm to conservatives that it is morally ok to vote for Gingrich or Cain? That it is ok to vote for either of them despite their moral short commings?

Clinton wasn’t impeached because of his marital infidelity or his lying to a grand jury. He was impeached for partisan reasons.

Posted by: jlw at November 27, 2011 6:24 PM
Comment #332449
j2t2, do you have evidence that a philandering president cannot be blackmailed?

Clinton wasn’t nor JFK. Now where is your proof that a politician has been blackmailed and resulted in a security breach?


People are blackmailed all the time and you want us to believe a president is immune? Your comment is ignorant; anyone can be blackmailed if there is evidence of sexual promiscuity. The politician has one of two options. Either confess and ruin his career or pay the blackmailer.

Steve, I simply asked if there was an historical evidence to support your claim. I find it amusing you claim this is ignorant yet cannot provide proof of your claim. Tell you what, below are 2 links to both republican and democrat scandals of the past. Prove your accusations have merit or apologize for the ignorant remark.


In the case of a president, it can be very dangerous. Barney Frank would have been blackmailed many years ago, if he had not come out and publically stated he liked little boys. Of course that is MA problem, not the nations.

Steve before you get so full of yourself here is a couple of repub scandals for you.


“Dennis L. Rader, AKA, The BTK Killer, Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president, pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.[76]

Jeffrey Kyle Randall, Republican Mayor of Clarkfield, Minnesota, was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys—ages ten and 12—during a six-year period.[77]”

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals


http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Scandals.htm

Posted by: j2t2 at November 27, 2011 8:57 PM
Comment #332451

J2 Can you prove JFK or Clinton weren’t blackmailed in some way?

Posted by: KAP at November 27, 2011 9:36 PM
Comment #332467

KAP do you think the Starr report missed the blackmailing? After the Whitewater investigation, the well… all of the digging by conservatives as they attempted to get Clinton. Seriously?

Posted by: j2t2 at November 28, 2011 11:38 AM
Comment #332468

J2, How many of the women Clinton screwed around with were paid off, or Clinton was Blackmailed into paying off?

Posted by: KAP at November 28, 2011 11:55 AM
Comment #332470

I know J2 you are going to call those payoffs out of court settlements but isn’t that just another name for blackmail that is legal, so the plantiff keeps his or her mouth shut about something that may hurt the defendent in this case Clinton.

Posted by: KAP at November 28, 2011 12:12 PM
Comment #332480


Kap, common sense would seem to indicate that such out of court settlements are a form of blackmail. According to Herman Cain and Fox News pundits, these court settlements are not an admittance of guilt but rather a recognition of how costly it is to settle them in court. They labeled all the women as blackmailing liars.

Why not blackmail Clinton rather than impeach him? Who knows, perhaps they tried. I don’t think out of court settlements is what Steve had in mind when it comes to blackmail. Besides, when it comes to our government, blackmail is much less productive than bribery.

This is a good issue to show the differences between conservatives and the general population. The general population is not overly excitable over marital infidelity and the impeachment of Clinton was one of the least popular things done by Republicans and they know it.

According to the Newt polls, marital infidelity is not a big concern of conservatives, except when it comes to Democrats.

The First Baptist Church of Newts adopted home town and which he was a member, had to take up a donation to help Newt’s ailing first wife and kids because he refused to pay his alimony and child support payments.

Newt divorces his first loyal wife, while she is fighting ovarian cancer, to marry his mistress. He divorces his second wife, after she develops multiple sclerosis, to marry his mistress. And, he did it all out of love for his country? Now that is the kind of crap that does get the public’s attention.

And, Newt has become the darling of the conservatives?

Posted by: jlw at November 28, 2011 3:36 PM
Comment #332483

Personnely jlw I could care less if a politician is banging everything in sight as long as it dosen’t distract from his primary job.

Posted by: KAP at November 28, 2011 4:25 PM
Comment #332490

KAP Steve implied national security was at risk by a blackmailed president. I asked for any historical evidence that would lend credence to this claim. So far I haven’t seen anything that would support his claim. Instead I get prove a negative, prove it didn’t happen as a response.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 28, 2011 6:51 PM
Comment #332492

j2, NO, Steve said POSSIBLE compromise of national security, that’s a far cry from implying that it will compromise national security. Re read comment 332400 especially the last sentence.

Posted by: KAP at November 28, 2011 7:45 PM
Comment #332518

Either way KAP it still doesn’t make the question I asked ignorant nor does it require me to prove a negative. The fact is so far no one has provided any evidence to support Steve’s claim.

Posted by: j2t2 at November 29, 2011 10:10 AM
Comment #332519

j2, You can spin any way you want but at least 4 women were paid off in the Clinton mess and as jlw pointed out, out of court settlements are a form of Blackmail. I never said the question was ignorant. I just pointed out that anyone who is willing to settle out of court as Clinton did must be affraid of what might get out in court.

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