Doing Something Right

In the second half of the 20th century, when Nobel Prizes began to be awarded to people from all over the world, Jews won 29% of the prizes. So far, in the 21st century, it has been 32%. Jews constitute about 0.2 percent of the world’s population source. This comes in spite of a world full of anti-Semitism and often actual violence against Jews. What can others learn from this?

This is an uncomfortable subject all around. It raises questions of nature versus nurture or maybe nature via nurture. We instinctively dislike the idea of group differences, especially given the particularly horrible history of the concept.

Yet the reality of differences between groups approaches a tautology. To the extent we CAN identify a group is precisely because of its differences from other groups.

Just because it makes us uncomfortable does not mean that we can ignore the real world effects. When a group makes up 0.2% of the world population yet wins 32% of the Nobel Prizes, something is happening. They are doing something right and maybe others should copy.

Posted by Christine & John at October 19, 2011 8:37 PM
Comments
Comment #330767

Perhaps the Bible is correct about the Jews being God’s chosen people and His promise to bless them.

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 19, 2011 10:27 PM
Comment #330774

Jews have always had a strong work ethic. Because of our history of oppression, we have learned not to take anything for granted. Our disciplined commitment to our Torah has provided us with the self-control necessary to be successful in life; this is something that other oppressed groups generally lack. Our strong sense of community is coupled with generous charity to help a fellow Jew who has temporarily stumbled, but no one ever attempts to exploit this generosity.

If you want to see a good example of this combination of community and generosity, look at the Kibbutzim in Israel. The Kibbutzim were integral to the Jewish success in Mandate Palestine, enabling us to quickly resettle that territory.

C&J will probably won’t fail to mention that our common religious beliefs give us a certain homogeneity similar to what is found in Scandinavia.

Posted by: Warped Reality at October 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Comment #330777


I would assume that the Religion is the prime reason for the successes the Jews have had, but I would not totally discount genetic diversity.

Posted by: jlw at October 20, 2011 1:47 AM
Comment #330779

All - I think we like to reject genetic explanations for reasons unrelated to science. First because such explanations have led to atrocities, ranging from the Progressive embrace of eugenics in America to the violence of the Holocaust. The more prosaic reason we dislike genetic intelligence is that it cannot be copied. It is a type of destiny.

But ignoring the truth because it is inconvenient or even horrible doesn’t make it not true.

Steven Pinker (also mentioned in article) explains that if we recognize the power of genetic inheritance and tendencies, we can respond to them and channel in positive directions. If we ignore the truth, we necessarily act on erroneous information, which takes us in wrong directions.

jlw

There is the nature and nurture debate for a long time. Current science indicates that both are important. At least half of what we think of as intelligence is inherited, but life conditions determine how that will be deployed.

I think the example in the article is good. For those who have not read, let me summarize. Intelligence is like size for football line backers. It alone does not determine success, but you find that there is a strong correlation and at some point you are just too small to play.

The important question in this case is how much heritable intelligence is there in this group and is it significantly different from others in this respect. It is clear that the norms of the group enhance whatever inherited intelligence is there.

Warped

It helps to have a homogeneous group. It leads to greater trust and cooperation within the group. Jews, however, also have an advantage of the diaspora, which puts them in touch with a variety of circumstances.

Of course, the nature of Jewish solidarity is changing rapidly.

Posted by: C&J at October 20, 2011 5:35 AM
Comment #330807

“I would assume that the Religion is the prime reason for the successes the Jews have had, but I would not totally discount genetic diversity.”

Posted by: jlw at October 20, 2011 1:47 AM

???, what is this supposed to mean?

Even though the Jews have been spead abroad, as C&J referred to the great “Diaspora”, they have still managed to maintain their blood line, religious beliefs, language, and identity for the past 2000 years.

C&J said, “The important question in this case is how much heritable intelligence is there in this group and is it significantly different from others in this respect. It is clear that the norms of the group enhance whatever inherited intelligence is there.”

So, do you belive they are more intelligent and if so, why?

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 20, 2011 6:14 PM
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Jeremiah

Test have consistently shown significantly higher IQ among European Jews than among surrounding populations. The article mentions some of them. Beyond that, we have the examples of over representation in top universities and in things like Nobel Prizes. That is the easy part to see. The question is why?

Posted by: C&J at October 20, 2011 6:22 PM
Comment #330810

So you don’t believe their intelligence level has anything to do with being God’s chosen people?

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 20, 2011 6:31 PM
Comment #330811

Jeremiah

No.

According to the Bible, being the chosen people does not confer individual advantages, but rather increased scrutiny and responsibility under the law.

Beyond that,the advantage seems to be concentrated only in the Ashkenazi population, the ones from Eastern Europe.

Posted by: C&J at October 20, 2011 6:39 PM
Comment #330813

I am not talking about “individual advantages”, even though there are many examples of God blessing individual Jews with material wealth and knowledge, but rather blessings upon a nation. Why do you find it impossible for God to bless a nation of people?

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 20, 2011 7:16 PM
Comment #330814

You ask the question “why”, but have no answer.

“The question is why?”

Posted by: C&J at October 20, 2011 6:22 PM

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 20, 2011 7:19 PM
Comment #330825

Forget about genetics or native intelligence for an explanation as to why Jews perform better academically or in business. If that were the explanation, why haven’t their genetic cousins in the Middle East performed equally as well?

In my simple opinion, it is related to religion. The Jewish religion has a distinct emphasis on the here and now for “Godly” rewards and punishments. There is less emphasis on an afterlife. The Jewish religion has little to say about what happens after death. “The Torah and Talmud alike focus on the purpose of earthly life, which is to fulfill one’s duties to God and one’s fellow man. Succeeding at this brings reward, failing at it brings punishment. Whether rewards and punishments continue after death, or whether anything at all happens after death, is not as important.” http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/beliefs/afterlife.htm

Posted by: Rich at October 20, 2011 9:21 PM
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A High IQ among any group of people is never genetically predetermined, and intelligence is not about religion at all. It’s is always cultural — the people who raised you are key to a persons success in any field, and intellectual traditions can be extremely crucial.
The Culture of Jewish people has always been to raise education, learning, in depth study, and artistic pursuits up as the highest goal, and indeed, the very purpose of our human experience — and hence, this explains the high academic achievements, and high cultural outputs of Jewish people all over the world.

PS. I speak as someone married to a highly intelligent and highly creative Jewish man and love of my life (I am not Jewish). He’s in a Jewish-themed band (one of three bands that he’s in) called Meshuggah Beach Party (meshugga: Crazy), so allow me to share a small example of my husband Danny’s (stage name: Shecky) creative genius with you. This is him playing lead on an original song he wrote for the band (and this footage was made for a documentary film called ‘Sound of the Surf’ that was made about surf music — which is hopefully soon to be released):
“Shmatta Hari”

If you like that (and surf music in general), maybe you’ll also like this original tune he wrote for another of his bands — for which he writes all the original music:
Mobius Transformation by The TomorrowMen

High intelligence and creativity like this has nothing whatsoever to do with genes — it’s just what happens when parents (of any nationality, race or creed) insist that their kids take their homework and music lessons seriously!
:^)

Posted by: Adrienne at October 22, 2011 8:53 PM
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Adrienne

Your formulation about genes having little to do with intelligence was widely believed in the 1960s. That is what I learned back then, but since the human genome was better understood and more better science has been done, few serious experts believe in the “blank slate” theories anymore.

Of course, culture has a great influence. In fact, it is the combination of talent and potential that makes it work. The best talent can be stifled by poor conditions. But there are limits imposed by genetic potential. Some people are just smarter than others. Beyond that, modern science indicates that some personality habits and traits are partly inherited, even things like shyness and sexual preference. When I was studying psychology in the 1970s, they would have given me a bad grade for even suggesting such things.

If we recognize human variation, we can address it better and improve conditions all around.

And I agree with you that the key to making the most of potential is the duty of parents. We need to expect more from people and stop making excuses for poor behavior. Less successful groups and individuals can learn lessons from the more successful. We are not determined.

BTW your husbands electronic klezmer is very interesting.

Posted by: C&J at October 22, 2011 11:01 PM
Comment #330951

Adienne said, “A High IQ among any group of people is never genetically predetermined, and intelligence is not about religion at all. It’s is always cultural — the people who raised you are key to a persons success in any field, and intellectual traditions can be extremely crucial.”

Adrienne, if what you say is true, then what does that say about inner city blacks, who are raised by a single mother on welfare, listen to ganster rap, run in gangs, use or sell dope, wear the crotch of their pants at their knees, and drop out of school as soon as they can.

And to C&J I say, by your reasoning (not 70’s, but today), it could be inhereted?

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 23, 2011 10:49 PM
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Adrienne, I forgot to ask, what part does respect for elders and morality play?

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 23, 2011 10:51 PM
Comment #330956
what part does respect for elders and morality play?

It plays a huge part.

Your formulation about genes having little to do with intelligence was widely believed in the 1960s. That is what I learned back then, but since the human genome was better understood and more better science has been done, few serious experts believe in the “blank slate” theories anymore.

Of course, culture has a great influence. In fact, it is the combination of talent and potential that makes it work. The best talent can be stifled by poor conditions. But there are limits imposed by genetic potential. Some people are just smarter than others. Beyond that, modern science indicates that some personality habits and traits are partly inherited, even things like shyness and sexual preference. When I was studying psychology in the 1970s, they would have given me a bad grade for even suggesting such things.

In my opinion, the distinction between genetic inheritance and cultural inheritance is almost meaningless. The vast majority of people are raised by a relative, which means that nearly everyone inherits a big chunk of that relative’s attitudes, habits, intelligence, etc… either through biology or cultural diffusion. Indeed, it is interesting to look at twin/adoption studies to learn more, but I don’t see the implications that explains why Jews have found so much success.

Posted by: Warped Reality at October 24, 2011 12:36 AM
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Warped

I recall reading a book with the title “Nature via Nurture”. The current science sees a strong relationship between the two with nurture actually enabling or stifling the effects of some genes.

One can make up for the other too. That is one reason why poor, but smart people get ahead and dumb but rich ones fall behind.

We see that some people are just smarter than others. You can see it in families with the same genes (ostensibly) and same upbringing, and you can see it easily in society.

The biggest “discrimination” is by the smart against the stupid. Modesty aside, people like me (and probably you) just have an easier time in life because we understand much of what is going on. I work with and manage lots of people. Experience has taught me that some people just cannot learn some things and that they reach their level.

I am not sure why this is, but it is. Different jobs require different levels of skills. This is a tautology. And not everybody can advance, no matter the training they get. Others can just skate through life. Not fair for those who want equality.

We recognize potential and training in sports. Some people are naturally stronger or faster than others. The old communist countries used to recognize this at early ages and train the best. Anybody can learn to play football, but some don’t have the body to play well.

The real “unfairness” is that smart people also tend to be healthier & certainly richer than their cognitively challenged colleagues. This is again the intersection of nature and nurture. Smart people know better how to make and keep money and how to maintain health.

Posted by: C&J at October 24, 2011 5:37 AM
Comment #330964

C&J said, “We recognize potential and training in sports. Some people are naturally stronger or faster than others. The old communist countries used to recognize this at early ages and train the best. Anybody can learn to play football, but some don’t have the body to play well.”

Jimmy the Greek lost a career for saying a similar statement.

You have brought about many equations as to why Jews have a history of doing better at business, intelligence, and monetary wealth, but have no answer for it. And to top it off, you absolutely refuse to recognize that God (when He called Abraham out of Ur, and eventually chose a people) could possibly have blessed them. This don’t seem that complicated and doesn’t require rocket science.

WR, I also believe personal respect and morality play a great part in the success of the Jewish people. Doesn’t anyone find it amazing that a people, who were scattered throughout the world, managed to retain their identity? The question is, why have the Jews retained their identity? Yet, we find millions of blacks having been transported to many countries for hundred of years and yet have no idea of their identity. It is only in PC America that blacks are known as African-Americans. This is not a term used in any other nation. But in America, all they know is “we are African-Americans”, whatever that means.

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 24, 2011 8:08 AM
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Doesn’t anyone find it amazing that a people, who were scattered throughout the world, managed to retain their identity?

I think Jews were a bit luckier than other opressed minorities. The Babylonians & their successors granted the Jews relative autonomy that other peoples did not get. If you read the Tanakh you’ll learn the reason why the Jews were lucky. On the other hand, our Israelite cousins did not fare as well when they were deported by the Assyrians. Many of those people lost their religous background and were absorbed by other peoples.

Nevertheless, certain aspects of the Jewish religion have helped us remain distinct from others. Traditionally, there was a strong taboo against marrying non-Jews and practices such as circumcision and strict dietary laws discouraged people from entering or leaving the faith at a whim.

Yet, we find millions of blacks having been transported to many countries for hundred of years and yet have no idea of their identity.
It was the intention of European Slave traders to erase the identies of the Africans they captured; it looks like the succeeded. Posted by: Warped Reality at October 24, 2011 1:23 PM
Comment #330980

WR, I fear both you and C&J fail to see the hand of God upon Israel. God promised he would not farsake Israel and he didn’t. The Jews that intermarried with Babylonians became known as Samaritans, and were hated by the Jews as halfbreeds.

It has nothing to do with luck. Almost 2000 years after the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple and the Jews were dispersed to many nations, they still managed to maintain their language. Name one other nation who after 2000 years of exile was ever able to return to the same land, with the same language and beliefs? It is beyond luck.

Slave traders could attempt to erase the history of a people, but they are people and had the ability to pass their history by word of mouth, which they failed to do. Tyrants can do many thngs, but they can’t change what is in your mind. The Jews, even though scattered, knew how important it was to pass on their identity to their children.

C&J wrote the post, asking why the Jews have been so successful and intelligent and yet the most obvious answer is found in the Bible, and yet we are to intelligent to believe there is actually a God who will fulfill His promises to Israel.

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 24, 2011 3:45 PM
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Jeremiah

Jimmy the Greek said a lot more than that and I wasn’t talking about race. However, science of the time of the Greek’s comments was less advanced. He would have a better argument today.

Re God - I have no opinion about that since it is beyond my ability to assess. Jesus said that we should render onto Caesar that which is Caesar’s. It seems to me that I am acting in the Caesar sphere when we talk science. I don’t question your resort to faith as a matter of faith, but I cannot support it - or not - with my science.

Science can tell us the what but it cannot tell us the why. If you see the hand of God, I cannot contradict you. All that I tell you is that there are several theories to explain how. Beyond that, only the Eastern European Jews, heavily mixed with local populations, show the differences.

Warped

I think that it is important that Jews are “people of the book”. There were lots of attempts to destroy Jewish identity too. They were civilized people with a strong culture.

Most of the slaves came from illiterate cultures and they came from a variety of hostile tribes. In fact, most slaves were captured in war among those very tribes. A slave ship could contain captured people from many of them.

Posted by: C&J at October 24, 2011 5:20 PM
Comment #330990
I think that it is important that Jews are “people of the book”.

Very good point. Literacy is very important for cultural preservation.

God promised he would not farsake Israel and he didn’t. The Jews that intermarried with Babylonians became known as Samaritans, and were hated by the Jews as halfbreeds.
Today’s Jews are mostly the descendants of Judah. The descendants of Judah’s brothers and cousins have not fared as well (except for the Levites and a few examples where others were absorbed by Judah).
It has nothing to do with luck. Almost 2000 years after the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple and the Jews were dispersed to many nations, they still managed to maintain their language. Name one other nation who after 2000 years of exile was ever able to return to the same land, with the same language and beliefs? It is beyond luck.
I agree it is quite remarkable, the only people who can even come close are the Irish, Greeks and Armenians and none of them were exiled for anywhere near the 2500 years Jews spent in exile.
C&J wrote the post, asking why the Jews have been so successful and intelligent
I believe the important question raised by C&J is not why Jews have been successful, but rather:
What can others learn from this?
In fact, this is the only question in the original post. Being blessed by God isn’t exactly something others can expect to happen any time soon. Posted by: Warped Reality at October 24, 2011 6:45 PM
Comment #330994

WR, when I said 2000 years, I was referring to the time span beginning with the Great Diaspora until 1948. After the Babylonian captivity, the Jews were allowed to rebuild the Temple and Jerusalem under Artaxerxes; so they actually occupied the land until 70AD. When C&J said the Jews were “people of the book”, I assumed he was referring to people of the Bible and not people with the ability to read or write.

Through a series of events, beginning with the Balfour declaration and ending in with the establishment of Israel in 1948 it is hard to not see the hand of God at work. Even during the 6-day war in 1967 we see a small nation surrounded by enemies and of millions and yet not only were Israel victorious, but also claimed Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, and Jerusalem.

C&J, “Re God - I have no opinion about that since it is beyond my ability to assess. Jesus said that we should render onto Caesar that which is Caesar’s. It seems to me that I am acting in the Caesar sphere when we talk science. I don’t question your resort to faith as a matter of faith, but I cannot support it - or not - with my science.”

That is a real shame. You seem to be an intelligent individual and some things don’t have to be proven by science. You quote “render unto Caesar that which is Caesars”, but we also find in the same book, “Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen”.

You speak of the intelligence of the Jews and their success, and yet fail to see a people surrounded by enemies who would destroy and drive Israel into the sea and yet have never been able too. I’m sorry if my opinions of God’s intervention might make you uncomfortable.

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 24, 2011 9:07 PM
Comment #330998
After the Babylonian captivity, the Jews were allowed to rebuild the Temple and Jerusalem under Artaxerxes;

This was likely a minority of Jews. From the 6th century BCE onwards, a substantial Jewish diaspora existed in the lands controlled by Babylon, Persian and later Greece/Rome. By the time of Yeshua, Jews were present throughout the entirety of the Classical world, especially in Alexandria, Babylon and Rome itself.

Through a series of events, beginning with the Balfour declaration and ending in with the establishment of Israel in 1948 it is hard to not see the hand of God at work. Even during the 6-day war in 1967 we see a small nation surrounded by enemies and of millions and yet not only were Israel victorious, but also claimed Gaza, the West Bank, Golan Heights, and Jerusalem.
With great powers such as the UK & USA on our side, anything was possible. We even occupied the Sinai! Posted by: Warped Reality at October 24, 2011 11:10 PM
Comment #331001

Jack & WR,

It seems really silly to me that people would claim that “Jewish heredity” is what explains the high academic achievements and cultural accomplishments of people who are Jewish — because the Jewish people traveled so much over the course of history. They mixed their genes wherever they went in that process — and it stands to reason that the very act of traveling must also be a contributor to the development of high intelligence.
Despite the insular nature of their religion, Jews were (are) demonstrably open-minded in every other aspect. After all, rather than staying in one place and being exposed to only limited viewpoints, the Jews had the advantage of being able to pick up knowledge wherever they went in the world. Combined with their cultural tradition of attaching a great deal of respect toward intellectual endeavors, these factors would give ANY group of people living in similar circumstances, and sharing a similar mindset toward knowledge, a very significant advantage overall — IMO.

Doesn’t anyone find it amazing that a people, who were scattered throughout the world, managed to retain their identity?

No, I don’t find it amazing at all. Indeed, it makes perfect sense — because the Jews were so often persecuted and were driven from place to place as a result. Their holding onto their cultural identity and traditions in such hostile environments is not a surprising fact to me at all. People being forced to live under such circumstances come to rely and place a great deal of importance upon their own communities — and are often compelled learn a great many things in order to try to outwit those who are always seeking to persecute them.

From a personal perspective, I’m able to grasp this quite well. My grandparents were Highland Scottish — also a historically persecuted people, whose culture and traditions were very systematically and genocidally attacked by the English (although not nearly for as long a time as the Jewish people were). As a result, their elders were adamant that Highland culture and traditions were practiced, understood, honored, and passed down in their families. This was certainly true of my own grandparents — even when they left Scotland and emigrated to America to seek a better future and increased economic opportunities.

Posted by: Adrienne at October 25, 2011 12:58 AM
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Adrienne, your comments are somewhat contradictory. First you say, “They mixed their genes wherever they went in that process — and it stands to reason that the very act of traveling must also be a contributor to the development of high intelligence.” and then you say, “No, I don’t find it amazing at all. Indeed, it makes perfect sense — because the Jews were so often persecuted and were driven from place to place as a result.”

If they intermingled “mixed their genes”, wherever they went; it would mean that they were integrated into every culture in which they lived. If anything, the integration makes it even more amazing that they were able to maintain their identity. Example: many immigrants from Italy, Germany, France, and Spain have come to America and in most cases by the time their grandchildren and g-grandchildren are born they have lost the knowledge of their original language. Yet the Jews, after 2000 years of exile, managed to maintain the exact same language of the Old Testament times.

Adrienne, “and it stands to reason that the very act of traveling must also be a contributor to the development of high intelligence”

This could be true if only one or two generations were doing all the travel or information gathering, but this took place over 2000 years of generations and the multicultural experiences would not apply to so many generations.

WR, yes, it was with the help of two major world powers; but my point is if you look at the events beginning with the Babylonian captivity and extending to present day, one can’t but see the hand of God in their preservation.

Civilizations have come and gone, languages and cultures have come and gone, empires have come and gone, and yet the Jews, who were inseminated for over 1/3 of recorded civilization, have managed to re-immerge as a nation.

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 25, 2011 9:05 AM
Comment #331023

No, my comments are not contradictory. The Jews were forced to move from place to place due to persecution, and they mixed their genes with the many people they met all along the way. There were many converts to Judaism in the course of those travels, so even though the religion has been insular, these were a people who were always very accepting of those outside of their own group who wished to join their faith.
This very obvious fact is reflected in the Jewish people themselves. They are all over the globe and they are extremely diverse when it comes to physical characteristics — ranging from very light complected and light-eyed, to very dark complected and dark-eyed, and everything in between.

Posted by: Adrienne at October 25, 2011 1:24 PM
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Adrienne

The studies find exceptional achievement only in the Jews of Eastern European ancestry. Whether or not they are “true” Jews is not really important. We are not making a generalized statement about everybody who is or can claim Jewish descent.

Posted by: C&J at October 25, 2011 3:55 PM
Comment #331029

C&J is correct.

Posted by: Jeremiah at October 25, 2011 6:02 PM
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only in the Jews of Eastern European ancestry

I believe your source speaks of Ashkenazi Jews, which are also found in Central and Western Europe (my own ancestors are from the Netherlands). I wonder why the sources reports a difference between the two though.

Posted by: Warped Reality at October 25, 2011 10:09 PM
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Warped

You are right, but the concentration tended to be in Poland and Russia. I should have just used the Ashkenazi, but most people would not recognize the term.

You probably know that most Jews in Eastern Europe came from the West to escape persecution and so they are cousins.

Posted by: C&J at October 26, 2011 5:41 AM
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came from the West to escape persecution

Yes, that is a constant refrain in Jewish history going back to the time of the Babylonian Exile. You are right that the Warsaw Confederation was important contributor to Poland’s high Jewish population before WWII.

so they are cousins.
Technically speaking, nearly all Jews are cousins of some sort. I still find it peculiar that the Sephardim have not had nearly the same success as the Ashkenazim. During the Middle Ages, the opposite tended to be true (Jews living under Muslim occupation were generally more successful than the Jews under Christian occupation). After the Renascence, this seems to have reversed. Posted by: Warped Reality at October 26, 2011 12:28 PM
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Jack:

You are right, but the concentration tended to be in Poland and Russia. I should have just used the Ashkenazi, but most people would not recognize the term.

You probably know that most Jews in Eastern Europe came from the West to escape persecution and so they are cousins.

Well, I still think your whole argument here is sort of ridiculous. Because 80 percent of all Jews in

the entire world
fall under the term Ashkenazi — so you really are not making any case at all for heredity being the greatest factor in creating superior intelligence among Jews of Eastern European descent. In fact, what you’re saying seems to be providing proof that environment must have played a far greater role than mere heredity.

Posted by: Adrienne at October 26, 2011 8:59 PM
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oops! sorry that second blockquote was meant to be italics.

Posted by: Adrienne at October 26, 2011 9:01 PM
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Adrienne

I am not sure what caused it. All I know is that there is a persistent, significant difference.

I also know that modern genetics indicates that a large amount of intellectual ability (more than half) is heritable.

To the extent that Jews of European ancestry can be identified as a group, they have these advantages. It could be their superior education values. If so, this SHOULD be copied by less successful individuals or groups.


It could be natural ability, in which case we cannot copy it but should be grateful that such people are around to help us dumber folk.

It could be a combination of both, which means a combination of the two responses.

It seems this common sense approach offends you, but it approaches a tautology. We can ignore the truth or try to live with it.

But since this is all based on the current science, I think we should at least think about it before we reject it because the results displease us.

Posted by: C&J at October 27, 2011 5:18 PM
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