January 18, 2010

Are Angry Democrats Ready to Cheat?

“I tell you what, if I lived in Massachusetts I’d try to vote 10 times. I don’t know if they’d let me or not, but I’d try to. Yeah, that’s right. I’d cheat to keep these bastards out. I would. ’Cause that’s exactly what they are.” This is what Ed Shultz said. He is one of the most popular liberal radio talk show hosts. Although liberal talk show hosts are a pretty pathetic team, Schultz is to Democrats what Limbaugh is to Republicans.

The problem is that Schultz is probably being predictive. The old Democrat machine is already in motion. You know there will be lots of “found” votes if Brown wins in Massachusetts. If it is at all close, Democrats will keep on finding votes until the Democrat wins and then they will call the race finished.

The stakes are high. President Obama has staked his personal reputation. Will this be another Copenhagen? He had to come north to pit the presidency against a state senator. How pathetic.

Now if any Democrats want to defend Schultz or “understand” his remarks, we will know where they stand on democracy. Schultz hasn’t backed down, BTW.

Posted by Christine & John at January 18, 2010 06:39 PM
Comments
Comment #294020

Schultz is an idiot just like his peers on the Right.

I don’t know what you mean by “finding” votes. Both Brown and Coakley have large numbers of supporters and the race could easily go either way. We learned in Minnesota last year that the voters that make mistakes on their ballots are more likely to support Democrats if that’s what you mean.

Posted by: Warped Reality at January 18, 2010 08:06 PM
Comment #294022

No wonder the ND Democratic Party wants him to take Dorgan’s seat.

Posted by: George at January 18, 2010 08:22 PM
Comment #294023

Christine & John,

Ready to cheat? Anyone familiar with an organization called ACORN? Massive fraud. Corrupt organization. Voter fraud. Criminal activity. Left-wing Democrat voter fraud machine.

Posted by: eric at January 18, 2010 09:00 PM
Comment #294025

eric,

Familiar with the Delay goons?

Posted by: gergle at January 18, 2010 09:19 PM
Comment #294026

C&J
I never heard of Shultz. I am an expat. That might explain it but I have certainly heard of Limbaugh.
Your post looks a lot like preparation for explainning a loss in Mass. to the Rep base. It could not possibly be that more people voted for the Democrat in 3 to 1 Democratic state. It must be because they cheated,right?
Speaking of “bastards”. How about that wacko Brown accusing the President of being born out of wedlock as if that matters. Disgusting.
It appears that the Dem leadership has hedged things re:HC by making the moves to simply pass the Senate version through the house. This deprives the Rep prostitutes the ability to stall an important piece of legislation,vital to the health and economic recovery of the people of the US. Thank God. The Dems have finally got the message. Its hardball time.

Eric

Dang that ACORN. Registering coloreds like that. Thats illegal,ain’t it?

Posted by: bills at January 18, 2010 09:45 PM
Comment #294027

No bills this just shows that your radical side is just as f___up as the others radical side. The Dems haven’t got the message yet but possibly after tommorrow they will.

Posted by: KAP at January 18, 2010 10:38 PM
Comment #294028

Bills

I have heard Schultz before. It is true that liberals make bad talk show hosts, but he is the leader of that wimpy group.

I suppose that Schultz is trying to build his constituency among the rapid leftists. I am glad to see that so far nobody here fits that group.

Re Acorn - they are clearly a crooked group. Nobody could be as stupid as they would have to be make all the “mistakes” they do.

Posted by: Christine at January 18, 2010 10:49 PM
Comment #294029

bills,

Uh, how about registering Mickey Mouse and thousands of other people, all with the same signatures? Or if that doesn’t grab you what about the willingness (at a score of offices across the US) to help set up and run a child prostitution ring?

Community organizing at it’s best. Obama and ACORN have a history.

Posted by: eric at January 18, 2010 11:57 PM
Comment #294030

gergle,

“Delay goons?” Tom Delay registered hundreds of thousands of fictitious voters?! Wow.

Posted by: eric at January 18, 2010 11:59 PM
Comment #294034

Ed Schultz is an embarrassment to liberal media. Thoughtless partisanship.

Posted by: Rich at January 19, 2010 07:17 AM
Comment #294039

Eric,

No, actually, he and the Republican Party deregistered thousands of legitimate voters by claiming they were felons, or otherwise ineligible, including men fighting overseas, as well as assaulting legitimate poll workers.

Posted by: gergle at January 19, 2010 10:11 AM
Comment #294040

But, on the “positive” side, he did pay for Republican votes using corporate money, the one thing that Texas actually outlaws.

Posted by: gergle at January 19, 2010 10:13 AM
Comment #294046

Ed Schultz is getting ahead of himself, and his comment makes fine grapes for the Republicans to make their whine from. But do you think he’s really urging voters to commit felonies, or is he just indulging in bombastic rhetoric to emphasize the importance of the is election? Take ten seconds and some time off from the perpetual state of right-wing paranoia and outrage, and calm the living hell down.

As for ACORN? Man, that’s just the typical gullibility on the Republican side nowadays. Ooogie Booogie! Community Organizers on a rampage! Evil conspiracy to elect Democrats!

Why does ACORN matter to Republicans? Because the President is a former community organizer, and that’s something Republicans have to make scary. Republicans don’t win nowadays unless and until you’re afraid of your own shadow. Vote Republican so you can defeat the dark conspiracies that want to destroy America.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at January 19, 2010 11:44 AM
Comment #294057

S.D.
Schultz, Limbaugh same mold but went different directions. You all complain about Limbaugh’s rants so now you get some back at ya.

Posted by: KAP at January 19, 2010 02:41 PM
Comment #294068


Stephen, do you think Limbaugh is a racist or is he just indulging in bombastic rhetoric to gain support for Republicans. Just as some might do something crazy or unlawful after listening to Limbaugh, there are some who will heed the words of Schultz and attempt what he advocates.

What bothers me the most about Acorn is that while they may have helped to get Obama and other Democrats elected, they have done nothing for those that they claim to advocate on behalf of, the poor and the disenfranchised. Those people will still be poor, disenfranchised and probably more disillusioned about the political system after Obama leaves office.

Posted by: jlw at January 19, 2010 04:59 PM
Comment #294075

KAP-
So do you say that Rush was wrong to say the things he did? I’d say Schultz would have been smarter to say something else to motivate people. Was Rush wrong to call the Army Meals on Wheels for following their CINC’s orders to help Haitians, to say that people shouldn’t donate on the White House’s site (the link leads to the Red Cross) Because the disaster relief effort might make Obama look good?

It seems like folks on the right are always looking for a reason to say “Democrats are imperfect, so excuse our mediocrity or failures on the same issue!”

You know, whatever imperfections I have, or my party has, I want my party to do better, to get better, not merely make excuses for behavior that is unreasonable at best, irresponsible at worse.

jlw-
On what basis do you say those things about ACORN? What justifies your categorical statement that they do nothing.

As for what Schultz said, if they are stupid enough to take him literally and do what he says down to the letter, they are stupid enough to deserve a trip to jail. I believe that Martha Coakley should be helped to win by legal means, by Get Out The Vote (GOTV) campaigns and activism along legal channels. That way, only the fringe and the GOP punditry with its bizarre ACORN obsession will believe it was stolen. Everybody else will know that when we won, we won fair and square, and that will give us real strength, as opposed to a scandal sure to come up in the next few years. (like, say Watergate, which Republicans have been making excuses for for decades.)

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at January 19, 2010 05:33 PM
Comment #294082

Stephen
Both of them are total a—holes. Democrats are imperfect and Republicans are imperfect and so are independents. But the thing is you have to be able to admit that your party has those imperfections and not blame someone else for your problems. Republicans got their comeupins now I have a feeling that Democrats will get theirs to.

Posted by: KAP at January 19, 2010 06:56 PM
Comment #294093

KAP-
We have real problems in this country beyond who said what about whom. We point out the things Republicans say in order to show just how far their values have drifted from what we could consider normal and well-adjusted. Schultz’s comments are an embarrassment, but Limbaugh body of commentary should be a source of shame to every Republican.

But people won’t put that bastard in his place for fear of losing the folks who follow him around. So they feed the fire, and sell more of their souls to Rush’s soulless prostitution of conservative values. We need people who are willing to put that SOB in his place when he step out of line. Limbaugh, if he remains so, should be a part of the Republican Party, not an indispensable leader in it.

Schultz? He’s one guy, and more people are familiar with Olbermann, Matthews, and Maddow. But hey, for their purpose, he’s elevated to God-Emperor of the Democrats.

Watch out, ACORN workers behind you! They’ll register your pet shrimp if you don’t stop them!

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at January 19, 2010 08:11 PM
Comment #294106

Stephen
In a state where Dems are 3.5 to 1 a Republican wins, even Democrats don’t like what Democrats are doing, in a liberal state no less.

Posted by: KAP at January 19, 2010 09:38 PM
Comment #294350

Most people don’t know Shultz and Limbaugh’s racist views make him much worse. And just because someone SAYS they would vote 10 times if they could doesn’t mean they really would. I would be very surprised if a Republican talk show host did not say something very similar. And Shultz does not speak for all Democrats.

Posted by: emily at January 22, 2010 10:26 AM
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