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Christine & John

I’ll agree that President Obama had the charisma, speaking skills, and life story that is made for TV. However, I dare say, isn’t that what America likes? I hope that Obama was sincere about his tagline “change we can believe in.” I hope for America’s sake that his policies work. However, America is an entainment nation. We have become a country obsessed with media rather than meaningful debates on politics. Look at Sarah Palin, she knows how to work the media. She always be in the news and, as long as she is able to keep the media in her favor, sky is the limit. Bush used the media to sell the war; the Democrats used it to win 2006. There were many elections where democratic canidates drilled into their speeches that they will be able to end the war. The Democrats took control and sat on their hands.

We have become a nation that only pays attenion to political issues when things go bad, but thats when it too late. This is a democracy and politicians are going to give the people what they want. If the people want canidates that are willing to go the extra mile to get things done and have the courage to stand up for the people, that’s what America will get. If we want canidates to look and sound good and to make us feel safe, that’s what America gets and we have chosen the latter.

OK.

We know Christine has a crush on Obama, but hollow?

Hardly.

Tiger may be available soon. He’s kinda cute.

Reagan? Quayle? Bush(43)? Palin? McCain? Huckaby? Romney? Hollow? Well, woodpeckers were known to chase them around from time to time. Specialists from Bose had to install dampers to quiet the inner echos.

Thank You. I’ll be here all week.

John and Christine, your article reads like more Republican claptrap, having no basis in reality or fact.

Obama just formed an Afghanistan policy to clean up Republicans mess there is lauded by Gen’s. McCrystal, Petraeus, the head of NATO, Australia, and many others, except those on the far Left and Right here in America.

Obama established the lead on the basic requirements for effective and meaningful health care reform. He got two of the three objectives he laid out from this Congress in the bills so far in their evolution, despite all Republican and conservative efforts to sabotage Obama and health care reform at every step.

Obama led the effort to and has saved enormous numbers of teachers jobs in America in more than half of the States where their budgets are in red, through his leadership on the stimulus legislation passed earlier this year. And parents, Republican and otherwise, should be thanking Obama on behalf of their children.

Government is one of the 3 sectors of our economy where unemployment is hitting hardest. But, Obama has guided targeted aid to the States to insure those losses did not become nearly as great had no State aid for government services been forthcoming.

But, your article wants to ignore his actual accomplishments and applause from those who Republicans respected when Republicans were in the White House, and harken back to his lack of experience, which was a debatable issue in the campaign of 2008, and settled and put to rest by the people of America in November of last year.

I think it is rather pathetic this article which can’t seem to move past Obama’s victory in the election last year, and which continues to debate as if Obama was still running for President.

And Obama has only been in office 10 months, and your article wants to claim a hollow presidency despite reality and facts in the present.

The reigning thought here seems to be if the Left could paint Bush this way, we can turn around and do the same to Obama.

One could imagine that just as they felt they could make Clinton recapitulate Nixon(a scandal-mired president forced to resign), they can make Obama a second Bush.

There’s a missing ingredient here.

First, While Obama holds the formal power of having a sixty-vote majority, his party is not so consolidated in its power. The Republicans also have not let Obama do much of anything.

This is critical, because the real outrage against Bush, what pushed him into the thirties were the policies he enacted, and the Republicans defended.

This is not unlike what happened with Clinton. The Republicans were demanding a resignation of Clinton, but politically speaking, there wasn’t much of a push for it in the general public. Where Nixon’s backing of felons rifling through folk’s was a mortal political sin, something nobody could stand up and defend at the time, without looking like an extremist in contempt of the rule of law, Clinton’s perjury during a civil trial regarding matters many people consider private affairs was viewed as more of a venal sin.

The Republicans seem to view things in terms of reciprocity, in terms of turning accusations against them back on the accusers. But without substance to back that up, without ever having given the Democrats a chance to fail, the Republicans deprive themselves of the facts that give their logic force. There’s only so far rhetoric can push a hollow argument, before it collapses under the excessive weight of expectations.

Jimmy Carter was the last decent human being in the white house. I realize decent doesn’t qualify one for office yet it is nice to have decency back in the POTUS.
Perhaps it is because both have won a Nobel peace prize that repubs/conservatives like to compare the two. Perhaps because they have entered office during tough economic times they have been compared. Perhaps because they have talked of an energy policy that includes conservation and new technology they have been compared, or perhaps it is because they have entered office after the two worst presidents elected to office in memory, Nixon and GWB. I don’t really know but it seems like apples and oranges to me J&C.

“We have the projections of the great and powerful Oz, unmatched by real accomplishments or even viable policies that would lead to accomplishments.”

That is precious coming from those that backed GWB and his “accomplishments” and policies, just precious. Perhaps with those on the right that are easily lead and cannot remember the past decade this “special high intensity tripe” will pass as some sort of deep analysis but for most everyone else it is as shallow as it is hollow and does nothing to add to intelligent debate John/Christine. You have shown the ability in previous post to provide us with intelligent disagreement based upon specific points, the generalities you spout here is beneath you guys. Please don’t start following in the footsteps of most righties with the misinformation, half truths and outright lies.

Jimmy Carter was the last decent human being in the white house.

I agree that he was a decent man, while he was in the White House.

Unfortunately, he lost that over the past several years. :/

Last night, it looked as though Jon Stewart finally found a way to put some distance between himself and the POTUS. He’s tried before, but his audience got pretty uncomfortable. The long honeymoon is over for BHO. He actually had to get his hands dirty. The rose tinted glasses are off.

From the Politico article, these resonated:
“He thinks he’s playing with Monopoly money.
…decisions are detached from rock-bottom principles…Does Obama have more than his share of self-regard?”

I don’t actually think BHO loves the man in the mirror, hence the endless retconning of his bio, and MRO is there to laugh at him if he does.

Funnily for me. Bonnie dozed off watching BHO last night and woke up asking “Why are all those fat people (Biggest Loser) on tv, where did the soldiers go?” Russell Crowe’s voice has that effect on me.

Quote “”Jimmy Carter was the last decent human being in the white house”” Yes to some extent he was, Jerry Ford was a decent man too IMHO what they needed from 2000-2008.

Stephen,

As much as the criminal aspects were true of Nixon, and even Clinton, I think the main difference between them were the enemies. All politicians have enemies, but Nixon seemed to thrive on making everyone his enemy. He wielded power poorly. When push came to shove, Nixon found himself very alone.

Rodney,

I agree Ford was a cautious and decent man. I don’t think he would have effectively countered the right wing of his party, however, and why someone like him wasn’t elected.

BTW,

While Carter may be partisan from time to time, if that qualifies as a loss of decency, not a soul on this site is decent.

C&J

Again with the horrible accusation that BHO is ,God forbid, well spoken and intelligent. This time you have just gone too far. You have coupled that damning insult with the further charge of having a compelling life story! At least have some respect for the office,if not for the man.

BillS

We are thrilled that we have a clever and articulate man in the White House. We hope there is something more.

What did we say that was disrespectful to the man or the office? It seemed like very respectful political discourse to us.

Gerg Said, “”I agree Ford was a cautious and decent man. I don’t think he would have effectively countered the right wing of his party, however, and why someone like him wasn’t elected.”” Yeah Gerg you’re right forward to 2000-2008 Newt had already done his “Salem” witch-hunt on the moderates in the rust belt and northeast shame .

Jimmy Carter was intelligent, fairly articulate and a decent man. Had this nation heeded his energy warnings and initiated a major alternative energy program, the nation might have avoided many of the problems that we have faced and are facing at this time.

Unfortunately, for Carter and the nation, the liberals in Congress were already in the process of switching their allegiance from labor to capital.

By the 1980’s, The liberals were endorsing Reganomics and progressives were no longer being listened to. There are a few progressives left in the Democratic Party but, they are powerless. Just a glance at the liberal/conservative Democrats healthcare plans shows just how powerless the progressives have become.

The progressives in Congress can be identified by examining the voting record on GLB, That bill may have originated in the Republican Party but, it was passed by the liberal/conservative DNC and the Republicans. Gramm Leach Bliley says volumes about where the Democratic Party has gone. It will not be repealed by Obama and the Democrats.

As for the Republicans, they have already announced that there will be no Republican votes for any kind of regulation of business, financial or other.

Intelligent and articulate are often a recipe for success in almost any endeavor but not necessarily in politics.