Sarah Palin: Outstanding at the RNC

McCain and Palin American flag

The absolute furor of interest in McCain’s choice for vice president has been amazing. Every column about her is inundated with both readers and comments. Love her or hate her, she has changed politics in general and this race in particular in many ways. The Right is ecstatic, the Left is in a hateful, vindictive frenzy, and the rest of America is watching this drama unfold.

It helped McCain or it didn’t. It was a brilliant gamble or the stupidest move imaginable. Take your pick and you might be right either way. It is still too early to tell how the crazy currents of the political tide will have shaped things come early November. There is the very strong possibility that millions of mothers can relate to Palin and any more ugly snarkiness from the media or the myriad of loose cannons at Daily Kos, the Huffington Post and like minded sites may end up creating a significant ‘sympathy vote’ that could very well be the tipping point in this unexpectedly close contest.

She is far tougher than many can imagine and a new phase of the 2008 presidential race is just beginning.

The political landscape is littered with those who have underestimated Sarah Palin and she has a successful history of opposing the sell-outs, the insiders and the professional politicians of both parties. She is the ‘average American” success story that all the professional politicians and blowhard elitists try to make believe they really are. With her it is not act, but the simple truth. The hometown girl who has shaken the pillars of the establishment and is now battering at the gates of power with the powerful weapons of hope, truth, honesty, reform and a heartfelt and sincere conservative message should be downplayed at your own peril.

After the artificial firestorm of the last few days, if anybody needed a ‘home run’ this political season it was Sarah Palin. And boy did she deliver Wednesday night. Grand slam, spectacular and impressive. Well done, Mrs. Palin, well done. She did exactly what she needed to do without gaffes or looking “unready” or nervous. In fact she showed the fire and spirit, strength and determination that led to early ‘Draft Palin” blogs and a conservative base that had watched with growing excitement as she made it onto the ‘short list’ of potential vice presidential candidates (she’d been on the ‘long list’ since April). The media may have been surprised by her pick, but anybody who had followed this race closely was not.

You can read the full text of Sarah Palin’s speech to the RNC on my blog.

A few initial reactions to her speech:

Mort Kondracke: “brilliant”
Bill Kristol: “terrific”
Nina whatsername: “homerun”
Fred Barnes: “Look out Joe Biden!”
Chris Wallace: “A star was born tonight”

Every attempt by myself and others to discuss the issue of Palin’s qualifications to be vice president, especially when compared to either community activist turned absentee senator Barack Obama or lifetime "I"m part ot the problem" Washington insider Joe Biden, is met with accusations that we are merely following some mysterious GOP talking points in regards to Palin. I had a column written on the subject less than twelve hours after the announcement and I can assure my good and faithful readers that I am not on any secret “straight from the RNC” mailing list. But because you asked, and in case you missed Sarah Palin’s own feisty self-defense, I will leave you with the unofficial “official” Sarah Palin talking points courtesy of Audacity of Deception and Hypocrisy. .


One last note. Do not miss Bob McCarty’s Sarah Palin’s Top Twenty Jabs at the Democrats.

The 2008 race has truly just begun. Give ‘em hell Sarah Barracuda! Biden better get himself a cup.

Posted by David M. Huntwork at September 4, 2008 12:55 AM
Comments
Comment #261380

You are absolutely right David. Whether you agree with the points she made, anyone with eyes could see she “delivered” the speech with as much eloquence as Obama, and more identifiable humor than any speech I’ve heard on either side in this entire campaign. It’s like she took one-liners from Huckabee and wove them into her own compelling message.

God that was a fantastic speech.

VV - I told you she would not give you the gaffes you were so desperately hoping she would. I told you all from day one what a public speaker she is, and I told you America would fall in love with Sarah Palin.

Everyone I know that saw that speech is absolutely GUSHING about her delivery.

Go Sarah, you are the best.

Posted by: Yukon Jake at September 4, 2008 1:38 AM
Comment #261392

David H., you mean the absolute furor of incredulity over McCain picking her as revealed for example by Peggy Noonan’s comment regarding it being over for McCain by picking her, don’t you?

Wasn’t any controversy over Obama’s selection of Biden, not like what is taking place with McCain’s selection. Sure, she appeals to the fundamentalist evangelical right that reasserted its hold on the decision making of the RNC, but, many other Republicans outside that circle are giving up on this race to the White House, due to McCain’s handler’s selection.

Palin takes the punch out of the inexperience argument in a way that is proving to be unrecoverable.

BTW, was that MOOSE fur she was wearing? Poor Moose! I used to love Rocky and the Moose. What the hell did the Moose ever do to Sarah Palin, anyway? Was it in the way of her natural gas pipeline? Serves it right I guess, from a Republican perspective. It’s what Republicans do when other living things get in there way. Pull out the big guns. McCain and Palin will no doubt be fast friends in no time.

Careful, though, Cindy will be watching and paying private Dicks to be sure.

Posted by: David R. Remer at September 4, 2008 2:21 AM
Comment #261394

You are kidding right? Peggy Noonan? Ha ha ha…

Methinks that has-been spoke a bit early, don’t you think?

Posted by: David M. Huntwork at September 4, 2008 2:45 AM
Comment #261395

David H., nope! You can read it verbatim here.

Posted by: David R. Remer at September 4, 2008 2:55 AM
Comment #261397

No, she did speak quite early. The race started for real tonight. And does ANYBODY in America actually care what Noonan thinks? >chirp, chirp>

I know I don’t.

Posted by: David M. Huntwork at September 4, 2008 2:59 AM
Comment #261398

Palin takes the punch out of the inexperience argument in a way that is proving to be unrecoverable.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

(Deep breath.)

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Good one. Thanks.

Posted by: Tom W. at September 4, 2008 3:28 AM
Comment #261401

David H. try the 45000 hits on the YouTube of Noonan’s open mic. And that was 6 hours after it occurred. So, to answer your question, yes, at least 45,000 people in six hours too a keen interest in what Noonan had to say.

And she is very popular on the talk shows, invited to the RNC convention as a proponent and given live coverage to boot! Oopps! That live coverage can really sting when forget its live !

Posted by: David R. Remer at September 4, 2008 3:59 AM
Comment #261402

Tom W. enjoy the laughter while it lasts. Either Obama is inexperienced which makes Palin inexperienced by definition, or Palin is experienced which makes Obama experienced by definition. Quite a pickle McCain’s handlers have handed him.

Unless of course logic has no meaning, in which case the GOP base will have no problem at all with this. But, the independent voters are a whole other kind of pickle, and McCain simply cannot win without a lion’s share of them. Independents are much more logical, that’s part of how they came to be independents. Fed up with the contradictions inherent in the duopoly party system.

Where did Palin get her law degree? Oh, yeah. She doesn’t have one. Probably why she is under investigation for allegedly illegally firing a public servant under her jurisdiction. “This is another fine pickle she has got me in to”, McCain will soon be saying just days before the Nov. 4 election when the investigation results are made public.

Double Ooops!

Posted by: David R. Remer at September 4, 2008 4:06 AM
Comment #261404

“Everyone I know that saw that speech is absolutely GUSHING about her delivery.”

As a former show tech I have heard thousands of speeches. I have heard good deliveries and bad. This was nothing special.
What I heard was the same monotone talking points wrapped up in a new package, and delivered by a rehearsed speaker.
You have to understand that anyone using a prompter has been rehearsed over and over so that the written words flow and the speaker doesn’t stumble as the words move on the screen.
Anyone that is capable of giving a dynamic speech is capable of giving it without the teleprompter, and as a point of fact, rarely even looking at their notes.
I didn’t see that here.
What I saw was someone unaccustomed to speaking before masses of people, and as a result the delivery was flat.
A dynamic speaker doesn’t show emotion in the speech they are giving by shouting into the microphone. They show emotion by raising and lowering the tone, not the volume of their voice.

This was a single note speech in more ways than one.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at September 4, 2008 6:21 AM
Comment #261405

Gidget goes to Washington.

Posted by: googlumpuugus at September 4, 2008 6:33 AM
Comment #261408

What is the Republican agenda? Poking sarcastic and snide remarks at Obama? That was the order of the day. Drill, baby, drill? Palin can speak. Ok.

You guys do have something to cheer about. After eight years of proving: a) that you can’t run an economy, b) that deregulation leads to corporate ransacking of the economy, c) that big talk on military strength coupled with incompetence and a lack of understanding leads to waste and chaos, d) that bankrupting the country on wars for oil is not good for the average American citizen, e) that borrowing money from the Chinese to pay war privateers and Iraqi con-men can stall an economy, and finally, f) that America can stoop to torture and political prison camps. After all that, you are still in contention for another shot at the presidency.

The ignorance and blind partisanship of the American citizen is staggering. The Age of Rove is on the brink of pushing America to the dark side.

Palin and McCain have not and I suppose will not address those issues. (Well, maybe McCain addressed the torture issue.)

America will get the leadership it deserves. And that is a scary thought.

Posted by: LibRick at September 4, 2008 7:28 AM
Comment #261415

Ugly snarkiness and sarcasm for me, but not thee. That’s the message of the Republicans tonight. Take potshots at the media because they say all these mean things, but turn around and say mean things about the media, but especially about those liberals.

Personally, I won’t say the Democrats are saints, but we’ve got something more than just snide ridicule to offer the American people.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at September 4, 2008 8:29 AM
Comment #261416

I agree with Rocky. The speech was exactly what I expected coming from a person who was so hastily thrown into the fold and until a few days ago seemed to be largely at odds with McCain and not particularly up to date with the workings of the world. It appealed to the republican base and far religious right who she truly represents. She implied notion of resistance to the status quo, which in reality is what McCain is offering. She talked of change and fighting corruption which in reality means that if she is genuine she will have to go after those who are propping her up. She spoke of the need for more and better jobs and better education but did not offer any indication where these new better jobs would come from. I see this as a contradiction in that it is the status quo that is to blame for our current economic situation. I felt she was more divisive and smug than she was understanding or reaching. There was only one point on which I felt she was genuine. That was when she announced that she would be an advocate of families with special needs children. She still is proclaiming the lie about the bridge to nowhere. Turns out she did indeed accept 223 million dollars in earmarks associated with that bill before she decided to be against it, after she was for it.

The biggest contradiction I see here is her claim to be against all the things that the people who placed her in the VP position represent. I grew up in a very small town, current population about 1000 and dropping as the result of rising energy costs and stagnated wages. I can tell you with confidence that she will appeal to those who are staunchly republican. The majority of farmers and a few of the business people in that little town. She would get their vote regardless of any circumstances. The rest, who make up the majority will vote their pocket books come Nov 4th. I can guarantee you that the greater majority of them do not see the dems as being responsible for the state of this nation nor do they see more of the same as the answer to their crisis.

The speech was not great. It was your standard republican rhetoric with claims of a greater patriotism, will to survive, leaning on strength of faith to deliver us from the results of poor republican policy. Thats right folks, they plan to rescue us from themselves. Nothing new and nothing affirming here. Just the same ‘ol same ‘ol delivered as Rocky says in a prettier and less stodgy package than the usual republican norm.

Posted by: RickIL at September 4, 2008 8:51 AM
Comment #261427

Rocky, the only difference is that she can give a speech without a telepromptor. Watch her twelve minute speech when she was introduced to the world by McCain just a few days ago. Then compare and contrast to “Mr. Telepromptor” “uh” “uh” “uh” Obama himself. You guys are grasping at straws like crazy. It is fun to watch though. Palin did a great job coming across as a real, strong and genuine person to the American people and the Left is pulling their hair out in frustration.

I know you guys can’t understand why McCain and Palin haven’t simply conceded and joined the heavenly choir singing at the feet of the One, but Palin laid out a great case as to why an Obama presidency would be a poor thing for this country.

Posted by: David M. Huntwork at September 4, 2008 10:16 AM
Comment #261434

Stephen:

I won’t say the Democrats are saints, but we’ve got something more than just snide ridicule to offer the American people.

Exactly. What the GOP delivered last night was mean-spirited sarcasm — red meat for the base — wrapped in the flag, as usual. Was Mr. 9/11 blowing dog whistles? I thought I heard a couple.
Sarah Palin reminds me of the cheerleaders I went to high school with. Your classic Mean Girls: pretty but nasty, and not very intelligent. Guaranteed to never have any real understanding about the world, and lacking in true grace, and sophistication. In other words, not Vice Presidential material.
Where are the Policy Issues in this Convention?
Obviously, they don’t got no stinking Policy Issues — just plenty more of McSame.

As I watched the speeches I found myself wondering again and again, why the hell are these Republicans all so bloody angry? After all, they’re the ones who have royally screwed this country with Bush’s sh*tty policies, lies, and horrible leadership.
Oh, and since when does mocking and tearing down the idea of community service appeal to Christians? I don’t think it does. Not sincere Christians anyway.

As you say Stephen, America wants something more. They want better answers, a new direction, and some relief from all the incompetence and failure, but all the GOP has got to offer is the same old virulent partisanship.

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at September 4, 2008 10:39 AM
Comment #261435

David M

I know you guys can’t understand why McCain and Palin haven’t simply conceded and joined the heavenly choir singing at the feet of the One, but Palin laid out a great case as to why an Obama presidency would be a poor thing for this country.

I can’t speak for Rocky but this liberal is not pulling his hair out or feeling desperation. I saw nothing last night that I felt was threatening. Perhaps a bit scary in that I see too much of the church entering into the equation. I was looking for something that would give evidence that the McCain ticket had found some sort of new revelation that might propel them ahead. It simply was not there. There was absolutely nothing new other than a spunky female governor delivering the standard republican campaign rhetoric.

Posted by: RickIL at September 4, 2008 10:40 AM
Comment #261438

“Sarah Palin reminds me of the cheerleaders I went to high school with. Your classic Mean Girls: pretty but nasty, and not very intelligent.”

VV that is almost verbatim what my wife said while watching Gov. Palin’s speech last night.

Posted by: j2t2 at September 4, 2008 11:08 AM
Comment #261451

Sarah was great.

She read her speech as well as every other man (all of them) who has read their speech at a convention.

Its truly amazing how sexist this world still is.

Posted by: MTCross at September 4, 2008 1:00 PM
Comment #261464

David M. Huntwork-
She didn’t give the speech last night without a teleprompter! Obama does have a reputation for being a little halting sometimes, when not giving a prepared speech. He’s also got a reputation for being smart about his answers.

We’re not pulling our hair out in frustration. we’re marvelling that a quarter of all Americans tuned in to hear Obama speak.

Your people seem to be intent on following a strategy of making people feel sorry for you. Damn Liberals ruined everything. They’re to blame for all the problems. Damn media’s not giving you a fair shake. That’s why your profile isn’t equal or greater than theirs. Everybody’s just dragging down what might otherwise be stellar performance by the Republicans. You’re the victims here.

Here, let me give you a tissue. Are you okay now? Your nose is running. Okay, there. You got it.

*SMACK!*

Get a hold of yourself.

We’re not expecting concession. But we’re expecting a fight where we have inspiration and history on our side. We don’t have to maintain big smiles and tread lightly in our minds around the qualification of our candidate for the office. Obama is a leader in a way that McCain and Palin are not, despite whatever experience they may have.

The very configuration of your party at the moment makes it difficult to be the party of change. Go against the war, and you lose Neocons. Go pro-choice, support gay rights, and you lose your theocons. You can’t raise taxes any on anybody to pay for all the deficit spending; you can barely move any politically as a Republican.

Democrats have more room for manuever. The Party is more willing to accept folks who have different stands on different issues. Because of that, Democrats can afford to go for popular stands, to do what the people want, which is part of the point of a Democracy. Your people are stuck doing stuff people don’t want and then bombarding people with BS to justify it.

Sarah Palin is nothing new, at least not in the right ways. Like McCain, she’ll talk a big game on reform. Had she been more stuff than fluff on that count, we might have been concerned. But as we research, virtually every claim of superior ethics and being above the fray of corrupt politics is patently false. Your mighty bridge killer had her bridge killed by Congress first, and she supported it the election before. Your confronter of corrupt Alaska political figures worked to get one elected in a 527, was endorsed and even starred in a commercial with the now-indicted Senator Ted Stevens.

She’s no less the oilwoman than Bush was the Oilman, her husband being a BP employee.

Every time we visit an independent or Republican voter, we can show them a commercial with Ted Stevens endorsing her. We can show them her message to the Secessionists in the AIP, we can show them the Secessionists crowing about her association with them. This is a party whose founder hated the United States, he said, with a hatred that could melt glaciers, and willed it that he be buried in Canada, rather than be buried under an American flag. This wasn’t just their occasional opinion, flung out in the midst of a heated sermon, but their defining principle as a party.

The Republican Party, for the first time in its history, has put a secessionist sympathizer on its Vice Presidential ticket. If anything speaks to the sad collapse of the party, that they seem to think this is the necessary course of events, it’s that.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at September 4, 2008 1:53 PM
Comment #261481

LMFAO,
Stephen you are expecting a fight where you have history on your side? That’s impossible. The left has been on the wrong side of history forever.

The fact that Obama was once a muslim, and spent years in a racist, bigoted church, is more important to me than the idea that Sarah ‘a decade ago’ belonged to Alaska’s secessionist movement because under clinton, she had had enough of liberal insanity and knew we could do a better job on our own. That speaks to her credit as a conservative, not as anti-american.

She is no longer a part of the secessionist movement, and neither’s Todd, regardless of what someone has dredged up or probably fabricated.

I love how everyone keeps calling her names because they can’t actually poke any real holes in the things she said last night.

Obama has never done anything besides speak well. EVER! The koolaid is finally wearing off some Americans now and they are realizing that Obama doesn’t equal change - he equals radical left wing government. #1 and #3 most liberal senators in the US on one ticket. Socially conservative and fiscally moderate on the right. When has Obama attacked anyone or gone against ANYTHING liberal? Never. He doesn’t represent change, he represents socialism and ridiculous taxes on anyone who isn’t in poverty. w000t for Obama… I guess.

Sarah’s points were right on. And the experience factor IS STILL IMPORTANT - it has not been rendered null and void, unless Obama is willing to swap places with Biden on the Ticket. Sarah’s job is to replace John McCain in the event he is killed or incapacitated, Obama is stepping in to LEAD. HUMONGOUS difference. On matters Sarah is not experienced with, she will have time to get her bearings, and quite franky, she will have more advisors than she can shake a stick at, so it’s not like she has to go in alone and wing it. Plus don’t forget - she’s not actually running to be in charge.

It is the pathetic liberal body that sounds shrill these days. Your big worry is “IF” Sarah gets in office she won’t be ready. Our big worry with Obama is “When.” Obama has nothing going for him but eloquence. No legislation of note, no nothing - just promises and rhetoric.

At least McCain and Palin have a record (and quite honestly balls that clank) of going against their own party when they know it is in the wrong.

The truth is, Obama doesn’t do and hasn’t done anything but read from a teleprompter at about a 7 level to Sarah’s 9.

Posted by: Yukon Jake at September 4, 2008 2:45 PM
Comment #261484
The Party is more willing to accept folks who have different stands on different issues.

I nearly spit out the milk I was drinking there, Stephen…

You excoriated Lieberman for the singular issue of being for staying in Iraq after his fellow Dems ran away from their vote. And your ‘leader’ votes with the party leadership 97% of the time.

It’s true that McCain’s voting support for Bush policies has averaged slightly above 89 percent since Bush took office, according to Congressional Quarterly’s vote studies. But it has ebbed and flowed. It reached a low of 77 percent in 2005. Last year it was 95 percent. By comparison, Obama’s own record of supporting Bush policies has averaged slightly under 41 percent since the senator took office. However, Obama’s voting record is no less partisan than McCain’s. He has voted in line with his party an average of nearly 97 percent of the time. The truth is that neither candidate can claim a strong record of “breaking with his party” if Senate votes are the measure.

Of course, McCain has decades of working with democrats on legislation, Obama has, arguably, 2 pieces of legislation of note.

If your idea of change is ‘not republican’, then yeah, you are backing the right guy. If your idea of change is actually changing how the government works? Nope.

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 3:02 PM
Comment #261533

“Love her or hate her, she has changed politics in general.”

I beg to quarrel with this statement. In fact, Palin - or at least her speechwriters - are trying to turn the political debate back to the Bush culture wars with this speech.

I don’t think that’s going to play again. And Obama’s response today was to retrain the focus on issues that Palin still has not addressed or proven she understands.

The folks who too quickly brand Palin a political genius are only emphasizing the sizeable gap between what they really, really hope she turns out to be and what she’s actually demonstrated so far: she can read a teleprompted speech (that somebody else wrote) after 2 days of coaching by a crack team of former Bush advisers.

Forgive me if I’m not impressed.

Posted by: pianofan at September 4, 2008 5:28 PM
Comment #261545

Huntwork,

I don’t consider myself a liberal, and even if I was I am proud of what little hair I have.

From all of the “gushing” I have heard about this speech, I guess it doesn’t take much to get to get you guys on the right going.

Could it be that you guys have set the bar so low that all it takes is a few tattered talking points to rile the right into a frenzy?

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at September 4, 2008 6:38 PM
Comment #261560
I guess it doesn’t take much to get to get you guys on the right going

I don’t know, kind of reminded me of the way the left got going about a week ago when the Invesco Field could hold back anymore and had it’s ‘release’.

Posted by: Rhinehold at September 4, 2008 7:20 PM
Comment #261566

Rhinehold,

I didn’t hear Obama’s speech.
Point of fact, the attention that he might have been given was usurped by McCain’s announcement of Palin as his running mate the next day.
I did hear Palin’s speech and for the life of me I don’t see what all the gushing is about.

As I said before when I was a show tech I worked hundreds of corporate shows and heard thousands of speeches.
I wasn’t particularly impressed by her delivery or the talking points I was tired of the first thousand times I heard them.
So McCain has chosen a woman from the sticks for his running mate.
Oh, and BTW, she apparently knows how to field dress a moose. Woohoo!

Frankly I now think that this should be a major requirement for every VP candidate.

Rocky

Posted by: Rocky Marks at September 4, 2008 7:43 PM
Comment #261611

I said her ‘debut as a candidate speech’ was without a telepromptor was a good one. Not her convention speech. All speeches at all the conventions are by telepromptor. Standard fare for all concerned, even The One.

Posted by: David M. Huntwork at September 4, 2008 11:22 PM
Comment #261835

I watched most of the convention speech and heard the initial candidate speech live, then watched it again later on tape. I thought she did much better without the teleprompter (later finding out the device was running ahead during breaks for applause). To me she seemed to be having the kind of jitters issues anyone would expect from someone making their first speech in front of 10,000 people.

The convention speech was competently delivered and didn’t sound like a squeeky wheel. Thus she breaks about even with expectations for a Hillary speech. Not quite so good in one area, somewhat better in another. That said, she proved before the nation she wasn’t a piece of undeserving trailer trash thrust up there for her good looks, in spite of a level of scrutiny and pressure no previous vice presidential nominee since Tom Eagleton has had to face.

The press hates her. We’ll find out how she functions under pressure.

Posted by: Lee Jamison at September 5, 2008 9:25 PM
Comment #261844

You know they say you always hurt the one you love, so I guess the Lib’s like Gov Palin also because of all the bad and nasty remarks made about her.

Remer, where does it say that you have to be a Lawyer to get a good leader, Shakespeare had it right when he said kill all the Lawyers. Also look at Detroit’s soon to be ex-mayor, guilty on 3 felonies, and he is and soon to be not a lawyer anymore.

Posted by: KT at September 5, 2008 10:10 PM
Comment #261854
Stephen, We don’t have to maintain big smiles and tread lightly in our minds around the qualification of our candidate for the office.

Uhh, YES you do! “Your” candidate is extremely inexperienced; to the point where his campaign is touting how “running a successful Democratic Primary” is grounds for being experienced. HA! Keep trying to sell that one to your bretherens; from what I’ve read, they’ll go along with it! :)

Posted by: rahdigly at September 6, 2008 12:05 AM
Comment #261868

As great as Sarah was I thought Giuliani was just as good.
Anyway this perfect pick by McCain keeps on giving, she was in Wisconsin pounding on Obama again for finally admitting the surge worked. Obama’a magical love fest tour with the media is over, we have somebody who can call him out and the media has to play it because she’s just as popular as the O-man. Obama is actually going to have to work to get elected, lets see what he’s got…just words, just speeches.

The ratings numbers I saw were 38 million watched Obama on 10 networks and 37 watched Palin on 6 networks.

Oh and did anybody watch CNN during her speech? They put up a “fact” under her while she was addressing the convention that said McCain has had cancer. I was in a hotel room at the time and it was the only news channel I had, I never watch those bums. At least with MSNBC they don’t try to hide it.

Posted by: andy at September 6, 2008 1:36 AM
Comment #261935

Absolutely DISGUSTING! Sarah Palin champions ariel wolf and bear hunting. They chase a wolf/bear in a plane until it’s exhausted and then gun it down mercilessly like a coward.

Do you REALLY want this person in Washington??????


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ

Posted by: QueenBee at September 6, 2008 4:40 PM
Comment #261941

Queen Bee, she also hunts caribou and moose from helicopters with automatic weapons. The woman is a true sportsperson from the first 50 round clip !!
There are numerous pictures and threads supporting my statement, but in the sea of flotsam out there now that is Super Sarah, it’s more than I’m willing to navigate any more. I’m quite sick of it.

Posted by: janedoe at September 6, 2008 5:14 PM
Comment #261962

It’s one thing to hunt and kill an animal. I wouldn’t do it myself, but I don’t condone it flat out. What makes me sick is the torturing of animals. It’s a whole different matter. Why doesn’t someone chase her alaskan first dude with a plane until he’s completely exhausted and out of options and then shoot him through the skull and see how she feels about that? This woman is a vile disgusting human being. Anyone who supports her should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: QueenBee at September 6, 2008 7:06 PM
Comment #261963
It’s one thing to hunt and kill an animal. I wouldn’t do it myself, but I don’t *condone* it flat out. What makes me sick is the torturing of animals. It’s a whole different matter. Why doesn’t someone chase her alaskan first dude with a plane until he’s completely exhausted and out of options and then shoot him through the skull and see how she feels about that? This woman is a vile disgusting human being. Anyone who supports her should be ashamed of themselves.

Sorry, condemn it flat out I meant

Posted by: QueenBee at September 6, 2008 7:10 PM
Comment #261972

Queen Bee, hunting as a true sport, usually leaves both the hunter and the hunted on an even plane.
We don’t hunt any more for the reasons our ancestors did, to provide food, clothing and shelter. We hunt for sport. I have to credit my husband with making sure all game he (we) brought home was cleaned and used. I’ve cooked pheasant, quail, wild turkey, deer, elk and moose. I hunted birds with a 20 gauge Ithaca or a 12 guage Remington over/under. We have spent hours looking for wounded game to put them out of their misery.
That was many years ago, and I don’t have the stamina or the stomach for it any more. But never at any time did we violate laws….or kill anything for the sheer thrill of it. The point you seemed to miss is that hunting from a helicopter hovering above an animal and shooting it with a high-powered aoutomatic weapon (IMO) is NOT sporting, it is barbaric. To me, that goes to the character of the person pulling the trigger…….

Posted by: janedoe at September 6, 2008 8:19 PM
Comment #261973

Queen Bee….. sorry, upon re-reading your post, it doesn’t look like disagree really.

Posted by: janedoe at September 6, 2008 8:20 PM
Comment #262418

Queen Bee,
Apparently you live in a big city, where all your food is brought to nice little grocery stores for you and you are pampered with luxuries that people in Alaska do not have.

The aerial wolf hunting / bear hunting is a game management tool used to keep the herds a healthy size for subsistence families (those that require wild game to feed everyone) When (and ONLY when) FIsh & Game determines that there are getting to be too many wolves and they are taking a large amount of the herd, you’re damn right they let people go in and thin them out.

Regardless of what rabid city liberals think, feeding people is more important than feeding wolves. End of story.

Posted by: Yukon Jake at September 10, 2008 4:26 AM
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This election has shone an incredibly revealing light on Who America is and more importantly who the American people are .

Citizens elect presidents not politicians and the rest of the world is watching , decisions made in America effect descions made around the world .


All the Republican party will achive by deceiving this great nation is make its citizens look like regressive deluded fantastical panic ridden jingoistic maliable individuals who are selfish on there world view . Reality is living in the now not in the past or the future but right now, and right now our economy has been raped by fiscal incomptence and greed, peoples childrren have died for the lies of an arrogant government and people have become numb to the suffering of there neighbour especially the ones who do not look like you or share the countries need for financial gluttony.

Right this second you have the chance to make a global statement of hope and recovery .A chance where intelligence will prevail ovver delusion . And if this chance is not taken the rest of the worlds hopes for your future will diminish with you .

These are harsh words for harsh times and reality is cold and forgiving

Posted by: Alex young at September 14, 2008 11:28 PM
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i meant to say unforgiving

Posted by: Alex Young at September 14, 2008 11:30 PM
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So, David, how is that Sarah Palin thing working out for the GOP again?

LOL.

You guys created a monster and now you have no idea how to shut her off without losing what is left of your hardcore “base.”

Pass the popcorn.

Posted by: Sharoney at November 17, 2008 12:11 PM
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