Hillary's Close Call

In case you haven’t heard, it has been revealed that the former first lady had a close call during a trip to Bosnia in the nineties. A recent anecdote shared at least three times on the campaign trail by former first lady and Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, as she attempts to ‘out McCain, McCain’, has been a harrowing account of her coming under sniper fire on a Bosnian tarmac.

More alarming is the revelation that not only was her life potentially in danger, but she had her daughter Chelsea with her as well. How brave and courageous for her to have put her life on the line in an active war zone to help bring peace to an oppressed people. Fortunately for her and for us, a CBS report includes the footage of this traumatic, harrowing and heroic action.

"I certainly do remember that trip to Bosnia and ... there was a saying around the White House that if a place was too small, too poor, or too dangerous, the president couldn't go so send the first lady. That's where we went. I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."

When it comes to defending the wall of freedom, thank goodness Hillary stands on that wall. We want her on that wall. We need her on that wall. She's tanned, rested and ready to answer that red phone at 3 a.m.

What CBS has been so kind to share with the rest of us is that this dangerous special ops mission by the co-president of the Clinton years was one where she was accompanied by Chelsea, as well as by Sheryl Crow, and Sinbad. It was certainly courageous of President Clinton to send his wife and only daughter, not to mention the cream of American entertainment, into the mouth of danger for the sake of peace. Bill Clinton was apparently very worried about their safety. It was during this trip that he shared a cigar with, and found comfort and reassurance in the arms of, “that woman, Ms. Lewinsky”.

We now know that the first lady was greeted on that far off Bosnian tarmac by a large crowd and a small, lovely child who, undoubtedly risking life and limb, took the time to read a poem and present a gift to a smiling Mrs. Clinton. The visual and audio evidence that this was a hot landing zone complete with whizzing bullets is somewhat scanty. Now some might call this selective memory, delusions of grandeur, flights of fancy, historical revisionism, and wishful thinking but Hillary prefers to tell us that she ‘misspoke’ while ‘sleep-deprived’. Of course, ‘misspeaking’ is usually more along the lines of saying a name wrong, not making up entire scenarios that never happened.

While pathetic pandering in the pursuit of votes and making up stories to be accepted are not actual crimes, they are not attractive qualities of someone seeking the post of Commander in Chief and are certainly as questionable as her primary opponent sitting under the tutelage of a radical, anti-American bigot for twenty years.

The days of a Clinton being able to say and do anything and not having to worry about their friends in the media ‘outing’ them are long gone. The Teflon mantle of ‘can do no wrong’ has been transferred to the New Messiah of the new century. Her account was even ridiculed by ABC News as "like a scene from Saving Private Ryan".

Mrs. Clinton has now accused her critics of 'swift boating' her in regards to her claim of coming under fire by Serbian snipers. I can only assume that the term 'swift boating' is actually defined as 'pointing out the truth in response to a Democratic candidate’s dubious claim'.

How damaging this will be to the political aspirations of Hillary Clinton is not yet clear. It’s not like the words Clinton and truth are by any means synonymous and Hillary is laboring under the burden of high expectations. In many ways this is just a Clinton being a Clinton and just another footnote in a long career of evasiveness, creative storytelling and outright falsehoods.

This campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination will go all the way to the convention. Hillary may be a lot of things, but one thing she is not is a quitter. Her supporters can at least take satisfaction in that quality while grinning and bearing her latest gaffe with stalwart dignity and grace.

This is perhaps how Hillary Clinton remembers her Bosnian tarmac trauma.

I leave you with a short quote by blogger Hugh Hewitt.

“What a strange campaign. Hillary remembering events that didn’t happen, and Obama forgetting sermons he wish he hadn’t heard.”
Posted by David M. Huntwork at March 26, 2008 1:43 PM
Comment #249240

Hillary’s foolish lies are worse, in some ways, than Obama’s racist pastor. For one thing, this is Hillary herself - not a shill, surrogate, or friend. For another thing, does anybody “misspeak” about being under fire? Seriously, people! That’s not the kind of thing you accidentally remember. If she’d said, “I remember flying into Zenica”, and it turned out it was Tuzla, that would be a misspeak. You can forget things like that. You can even forget a little girl reading a poem. But you don’t forget bullets, and you certainly don’t remember bullets that never existed.

Hillary’s excuse is: “I was sleep-deprived. I misspoke”. It’s a good thing she’ll never have to answer a red phone at 3am.

Posted by: Chops at March 26, 2008 3:04 PM
Comment #249241

David, thanks for your take on just another lie in the life of a Clinton. I really liked your quote by Hugh. How about another…Hillary lies while knowing the truth and Obama listens to lies and doesn’t care about the truth.

Posted by: Jim M at March 26, 2008 3:16 PM
Comment #249243

I think I want to start handing out comment “atta-boys”

Chops gets the first one.

Posted by: Lee Jamison at March 26, 2008 3:27 PM
Comment #249257

Yes, the oddities keep on piling up. Hillary Remembers sniper-fire she never was under, and Republicans remember twenty years of sermons they never saw.

Oh, did I say something wrong? Forgive me for not believing that seeing twenty seconds of selected excerpts makes Republicans experts on the sermons Obama heard in his twenty years of attendance.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at March 26, 2008 4:56 PM
Comment #249265

Stephen Daugherty:

Your futile attempts at dissembling and your constant projecting of Democrats ills to Republicans is such a bore. Come on, look at your posts in the last 2 weeks. Every time somebody on the left makes a mistake, there you are to try and project it onto the Right. Have you no argument other than “they do it, too”?

Can’t you just admit that they made mistakes or is your obedience to your ideology made you so blind that this is just a knee-jerk reaction for you?

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, just focus on the evil right. Please tell me you have something better than this.

Posted by: Beirut Vet at March 26, 2008 6:08 PM
Comment #249266

Why are you swiftboating Hillary like this? That’s what it’s called, right, when you question the heroism of any of these Democratic icons?

Posted by: Liam at March 26, 2008 6:14 PM
Comment #249268

Repost of a recent post relevant to the topic by Dr Rene in the wrong thread:

“The media continues to make a big deal about Sen. Hillary Clinton and her comments pertaining to Bosnia. Unlike Sen. Clinton, her opponent, the Senator from Illinois has yet to visit any war zone. Having protected President and Mrs. Clinton and President and Mrs. Bush in foreign countries, I know what the U.S. Secret Service (USSS) would brief any civilian visitor. I am sure that Sen. Clinton recalls what she was told by the USSS or her military escorts that most likely briefed her “she had to be aware of snipers”. I am sure that the same USSS or military advisors briefed her that if attacked by snipers, she would have to stay low and run to the nearest bunker or vehicle as she recalls. As an officer that lived in all three war zones that is what I regularly briefed civilian visitors. I am convinced that this is why she recalls the event the way she did.

No one is safe in a war zone. Having served in the Balkans (i.e., Bosnia), Iraq and Afghanistan I can assure all Americans that snipers can kill you from afar. Ask the families of thousands of American soldiers that have died from Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs). IEDs are deployed from afar and like snipers, both are deadly. He’d rather talk about it than put his words into action. As a soldier my hats are off to Sen. Clinton. As for any media comparing this event to the Senator from Illinois pastor’s behavior, I find this repulsive and totally unethical. But then the American news media is known for attacking Sen. Hillary Clinton. Americans should not forget the so-called sound bites against America and yet the Senator from Illinois is defending his pastor as he would an uncle. Even recently, Sen. John McCain has been reminded that he misspoke.

Posted by: Dr. Rene, USAF Retired, Recently at March 25, 2008 04:33 PM “

Posted by: ohrealy at March 26, 2008 6:38 PM
Comment #249269

I guess we’re back to all-clinton-obama-all-the-time. It seems like overkill to me. All three candidates are out there all day giving speeches, answering questions. It’s expected that mistatements will happen, spin will be performed and, yes, exagerations will be made.
Clinton exagerated what happened, I would assume to emphasize her “experience”.
I suspect that her constant reference to experience is code for “Bill is here to give me advice.” It’s a good selling point and I don’t know why they don’t just come out and promote it:
Vote for Hillary and you’ll get two for one.
After all, w hasn’t been in office that long that people have forgotten what a competent president can do.

Posted by: charles ross at March 26, 2008 6:59 PM
Comment #249273

Charles Ross, thanks for the good laugh. You were joking, weren’t you?

Posted by: Jim M at March 26, 2008 7:15 PM
Comment #249275

About this blog becoming largely a discussion forum on any and all minutia concerning Hillary/Barack?
About Hillary being honest about her experience and admitting that the experience she offers is largely the fact that her husband is the last sucessful president we’ve had?

But I am glad I’m good for a laugh. Use me, abuse me, laugh if you must, but just don’t ignore me!

Posted by: charles ross at March 26, 2008 7:31 PM
Comment #249276

Beirut Vet-
Futile attempts at dissembling?
Failed Lies. Don’t gild the lily

But I’m not lying. The “chickens coming home to roost” comment was a quote from a white ambassador, but you wouldn’t know that if you went by what you put on Hannity. You would also not know that the regular fare at that place was far less spicy.

Don’t talk to me about kneejerk reactions. Y’all folks jumped on this and took everything they told you at face value. It never occured to you that the reputation of both the place and the minister are far better than this quick and dirty smear job would indicate.

What’s being done to Barack is Swiftboating. In Hillary’s case, most people think its fair.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at March 26, 2008 7:50 PM
Comment #249277


“What’s being done to Barack is Swiftboating”

how so ? a man attends a church for i believe it’s 20yrs., and allows his wife and children to be exposed to the good reverends hate speech, week after week, year after year, and he’s being swiftboated ? sounds like legitimate critisism to me.

on the hillary issue rather than give the what seems to be the normal response, eg. claim ( you guys are worse ) why not try to convince us why we’re wrong by explaining why we’re wrong ? you know back it up with some facts.

Posted by: dbs at March 26, 2008 8:10 PM
Comment #249278


how so ? a man attends a church for i believe it’s 20yrs., and allows his wife and children to be exposed to the good reverends hate speech”

Stop right there! You’re assuming the content of sermons you most likely have decided that you’re too well informed to look up. From all accounts, those inflammatory sermons are a rarity. if so, then this self-righteous moralizing about what he’s exposing his kids falls flat.

That’s what swiftboating is. Take the worst possible interpretation whenever ignorance allows it, and making up stuff when the truth doesn’t suffice.

Now what’s ironic about this article is how badly it underestimates how low the opinion of Clinton is among the netroots.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at March 26, 2008 8:37 PM
Comment #249283

I guess what I seem to be missing about the controversy surrounding Rev. Wright is any discussion about the rightness or wrongness of what he has said. The guy is an older black man who has gone through much racism in his life. He must have. How could one be a black man living in the 40’s and 50’s in America and not have? I think that instead of regarding what he is saying as right or wrong it would be more helpful to think about why he would say these things. It would be especially helpful to stop and think about where HE is coming from; because his lifetime experience is probably very different from yours. From his point of view, America is a racist, repressive, fundamentally unfair place. I don’t agree with that but I do understand why he would say those things.

Posted by: Charles ross at March 26, 2008 10:52 PM
Comment #249286

I’m no Hillary fan, but I’m surprised at how badly she’s mishandled her response to this.

I think a lot us of would actually be willing to give her the benefit of the doubt it she’d simply said that she’d incorrectly remembered the details of this particular incident and had mixed it up with other events.

I mean, if you’re a public figure at the level she was, and you’re traveling overseas that much—sometimes in hostile places—I’m sure there were LOTS of occasions when the Secret Service was issuing warnings, changing plans, and whisking her and her entourage to and from different locations as quickly as possible. That seems entirely believable to me.

“Swiftboating” is a ridiculous term. The Swiftboat Vets raised a number of questions about John Kerry which were entirely legitimate, many of which haven’t even been resolved to this day.

It’s absurd that this term should be the one to enter the political lexicon to describe unfair political attacks when at the same time the Swift Vets were active, we had John Kerry’s opponent being publicly attacked by the media with fake and badly forged documents. “TANG’D” should be the term used instead of swiftboating. I give a lot more credence to Vietnam veterans—including Congressional Medal of Honor recipients—than I do to Dan Rather and the mysterious bunch of informants he relied on which still live in the shadows.

Posted by: Loyal Opposition at March 26, 2008 11:46 PM
Comment #249288

What? Hillary caught in a lie? Holy Prevaricators Batman!
Fact is she lying about the whole thing.
Even if it was tempted to, the Military would never put someone in her position in an even remotely dangerous situation. They never would have let her plane land if there had been hostile fire anywhere near the airfield.
But then what more y’all want from someone who very conveniently found out at the last minute that she’s actually part Jewish during her bid for the NY Senate seat. Reckon maybe she lied about that too?

Posted by: Ron Brown at March 27, 2008 12:15 AM
Comment #249290

Ron, Hillary’s mistake is assuming that the media will cooperate with all of her lies as they did for her husband at a time when the Clintons appeared to be the most liberal people on the block. Her problem is that there’s now somebody more liberal around for them to support. Welcome to the “vast right wing conspiracy,” Hillary. That’s YOU now, and the media will treat you accordingly.

Posted by: Loyal Opposition at March 27, 2008 12:45 AM
Comment #249341

You may be more right than you know. Does the name Richard Mellon Scaife ring any bells? When she finally weighed in on the Wright issue, guess whose paper she talked to in Philadelphia, and who was sitting in on the interview?

The trick is not that people supported the Clintons because they were liberals. They supported the Clintons because they could stand up to the Republicans. They backed them because the Clintons were made into martyrs for the party by the Republican Congress. Saving the Clintons meant keeping the party from being wiped off the map.

The Clintons made that both tougher and easier, tougher by being prone to a certain level of shenanigans, but easier by being dynamic resilient leaders that could keep the party brand alive.

The trouble with the Clintons, really, is like somebody once said, they’d bargain away the loaf to keep the slice. That was a bit annoying during Clinton’s tenure in office, which is part of what lead Michael Moore to call him the best Republican president we ever had. He compromised on welfare, compromised on the Neocon agenda, compromised on dozens of things.

But we were willing to live with that. Better to have the slice than starve entirely. The Clintons and the DLC (Democratic Leadership Council) might have had better luck had the Republican Party remained in its post impeachment drift. Heck, it might have stayed at least somewhat relevant in the post 9/11 world if Bush and other Republicans had been more conciliatory and more cooperative across partisan lines.

But you have to understand something about them: their success came from triangulation, by essentially stepping around Republican issues and co-opting them. Aside from the budget issue, most Democrats have little love for the compromises made.

The deterioration of the market, the widespread failures and corporate scandals, the dysfunction of the energy markets and other issues affecting corporate economic health and personal economic health have made Republican cries for less regulation less attractive, and thereby reduced the value of DLC triangulation on that.

The deterioration of “get tuff” foreign policy, of heavy-handed American Bravado has reduced the value of echoing their hardline; Iraq has caused as much damage or greater to the DLC as it has the Republicans.

Essentially, the country’s disgust with the Republicans is destroying one of the main selling points of the Clinton’s once-dominant faction: that by being more Republican, or at least tapping into their appeal, you can win elections and maintain power. The death of the modern conservative movement and the rise of the Netroots left has eroded their competitive edge.

For the DLC, in short, this is a critical struggle. If they can’t get Clinton through the primaries, their stock goes down considerably, and if Obama wins the Presidency, becomes the party leader, essentially, well, that realigns everything to the Center Left, to the progressives.

It’s a struggle they’re losing. Nancy Pelosi’s talk of the pledge delegate numbers being the indicator scared them so badly that some of the wealthy Clinton donors sent a letter essentially blackmailing her with threats of withdrawing financial support, if they fail to abide by Hillary’s more expansive vision of what the pledged and superdelegates can do. Let me tell you, few in the Netroots left are charmed with the talk coming out of the Hillary camp regarding delegates.

The recent controversies have done little to send her stock up. The developing CW is that she’s losing steadily as she heads forward, and none too gracefully.

She was once the inevitable winner. That she has lost to an insurgent challenger like Barack Obama indicates that the Republican’s are going to have a real problem in November, because it indicates a party that is growing past the increasingly regional, compromised party that it was becoming in previous elections.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at March 27, 2008 1:33 PM
Comment #249353

Stephen, very well said.

Hillary Clinton is starting to be compared in the media to Tonya Harding now. I think it’s an appropriate comparison. Here is woman who is losing so badly, but who is such a poor sport that she is actually doing everything she can to knee cap an opponent — who is a member of her own team.

As for Hillary’s “close call”, it’s so absolutely shameless. It’s also an insult to all those military people who were in charge of protecting her on that trip to Bosnia. Actually, when you think about it, it’s really an insult to anyone who has ever truly been under sniper fire!
And her excuse — that she lied simply because she’s so tired? Wow. That’s just more transparent dishonesty. She lied to make herself sound tough and “battle hardened” — yet should have been aware that the video would be ridiculously easy to produce.
What crazy world of delusions is this woman living in anyway? Who on earth would want Hillary answering that 3AM phone call now?!

Btw, if anyone (besides ohrealy, that is) wants a good chuckle, check out this hilarious video a friend of mine e-mailed me this morning!

Hillary Clinton dodges sniper fire in Bosnia - raw footage

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at March 27, 2008 3:20 PM
Comment #249356

This “Hillary Lied” thing is quite boring. Did anyone here actually think she would tell the truth?

Dick Morris has a list of lies that Hillary has made…some acknowledged and some not.

See the whole column here.

If you don’t want to go to the site and see the list…here is Dick Morris’ list:

Hillary simply cannot tell the truth. Here’s her scorecard:

Admitted Lies

• Chelsea was jogging around the Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001. (She was in bed watching it on TV.)
• Hillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. (She admitted she was wrong. He climbed Mt. Everest five years after her birth.)
• She was under sniper fire in Bosnia. (A girl presented her with flowers at the foot of the ramp.)
• She learned in The Wall Street Journal how to make a killing in the futures market. (It didn’t cover the market back then.)

Whoppers She Won’t Confess To

• She didn’t know about the FALN pardons.
• She didn’t know that her brothers were being paid to get pardons that Clinton granted.
• Taking the White House gifts was a clerical error.
• She didn’t know that her staff would fire the travel office staff after she told them to do so.
• She didn’t know that the Peter Paul fundraiser in Hollywood in 2000 cost $700,000 more than she reported it had.
• She opposed NAFTA at the time.
• She was instrumental in the Irish peace process.
• She urged Bill to intervene in Rwanda.
• She played a role in the ’90s economic recovery.
• The billing records showed up on their own.
• She thought Bill was innocent when the Monica scandal broke.
• She was always a Yankees fan.
• She had nothing to do with the New Square Hasidic pardons (after they voted for her 1,400-12 and she attended a meeting at the White House about the pardons).
• She negotiated for the release of refugees in Macedonia (who were released the day before she got there).

Yawwwwwwnnnn. Just another whopper from the “WhopperMeister” herself.


Posted by: Jim T at March 27, 2008 3:54 PM
Comment #249372

From Talking Points Memo: Summa Bosniatica
As they state: “if you want to see the whole story, from start to finish and make up your own mind (or just relive the trainwreck) behold …”

Posted by: Veritas Vincit at March 27, 2008 7:01 PM
Comment #249374

“Dick Morris has a list of lies that Hillary has made”

Now compile a list of Dick Morris’s lies. He contradicts his own statements about the Clintons from when he was working for them. After they had to fire him, he turned on them and began working for Murdoch. Do you agree with Dick Morris that the exits polls in 6 states in 2004 are contraindicatory of the results in those states? He might know more about polls than Hillary.

Posted by: ohrealy at March 27, 2008 7:34 PM
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you’re assuming it’s an isolated incident. while it’s possible, it’s also not likely. an even if it was only occasional it’s still not acceptable, if you want people to believe you’re a uniter who wants to take the country in a new direction. i can tell you from my own experience that if the pastor at my church,( the very same church my wife and children attend. ) popped off with something like that, even once in a while, that would be the end of it. there’s absolutely no reason to stay unless you’re trying to act like your down with the inner city black experience, which we both know he knows nothing about, as he grew up in a fairly comfortable life style. sorry, no swiftboating here, a very legitimate question IMO.

Posted by: dbs at March 27, 2008 8:20 PM
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