Barack Obama's Media Moments

Barack Obama’s presidential campaign may liquidate in the Media.

From a Washington Post blog:

Since the madrassah incident, Obama has given interviews to ABC, CNN, CBS and NBC -- pretty much every other network except Fox. Sources close to Obama acknowledged that they're not thrilled to play ball with Fox journalists, but they stopped short of saying they are freezing the network out.

One source familiar with the dynamic between Fox and Obama, who asked not to be named, said Obama and his staff are in for a rude awakening if they think they can write off Fox News. If a candidate is serious about running for president, he or she is going to need a network like Fox to reach out to all those voters in the red and purple states, the source said.

From the AP:

Chances are "about 100 percent" that a candidate will be ruined by a story that he or she hasn't anticipated, said ABC News political reporter Jake Tapper.

It's not just Fox News though -- remember CNN? Recently it visually linked Obama's name with images of Islamic terrorists. They've also aired this -- later claimed by CNN as satire.

The Media will eventually finish off what's left of Obama. Interestingly enough because it was the media that gave Obama political center stage.

Posted by Mike Tate at January 31, 2007 11:53 PM
Comments
Comment #206072

I don’t get it, Mike. Are you actually defending FOX News’ lies about Obama?

Posted by: American Pundit at February 1, 2007 12:11 AM
Comment #206081

I certainly don’t defend Fox or any of the other media for this kind of yellow journalism, but what Mike has stated here does, sadly, have the ring of truth.

Perhaps it comes from the phoney images created by the campaigns themselves. I’m not sure which lie is better.

Posted by: gergle at February 1, 2007 12:59 AM
Comment #206082

Did anyone else notice that final clip came from MikeHunt TV. It took me several minutes to quit laughing. Simple minded humor still cracks me up. I’ll never forget the line: “Has anyone seen Mike Hunt.”

Sorry, it just cracked me up. When you’re pretty much homebound you find humor wherever you can.

If FOX News thinks no politician can exist without them, I think they’ve really lost touch with reality. I think at this point Obama has shown great restraint. He seems to be able to take criticism in stride. He may do much better than I’d earlier thought.

In the mean while I’m licking my wounds. My man Biden may have just broken the record for the time between officially declaring his intention to run for President and the moment he shot himself in the foot:

“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama/index.html?section=cnn_latest

Talk about beyond stupid!!!!!!!!!!

Goodbye Joe.

Posted by: KansasDem at February 1, 2007 1:19 AM
Comment #206088

Obama is a mirage as is Kucinich. Obama is only there too make sure that Blacks vote Democrat. And Kucinich is only there too make sure progressives vote Democrat. This is how the Democrats play their game: 1. They parade a progressive out to hook progressives(read Kucinich or Dean) but than when they dont win the nomination they end up going for a center right candidate (read Kerry or Hillary).
2. They parade a Black out (read Al Frankton, Jesse Jackson Jr. or now Obama) yet nominate a center-right candidate (read Kerry or Hillary).

Hillary is the Kerry (read loser) of 2008.

Posted by: Richard Rhodes at February 1, 2007 2:56 AM
Comment #206089

Mike

I noticed your out of context quote from the AP. Why didn’t you use the following lines from the same article instead? This is almost as bad as a previous posting that claimed that a candidate couldn’t win without Limbaugh’s support.

A magazine article’s charge that Obama had attended a radical Islamic school while living in Indonesia as a boy was spread on blogs and, most prominently, on Fox News Channel. Other news organizations sent reporters who learned the school in Jakarta was public and secular and has long accepted students of all faiths. CNN’s Anderson Cooper seemed to relish sticking the knife in a rival. “That’s the difference between talking about news and reporting it,” he said. “You send a reporter, check the facts and you decide at home.”

AP

Posted by: cube at February 1, 2007 3:22 AM
Comment #206093

Mike Tate,

Tapper said “a candidate”, not Barack Obama. You don’t even bother explaining why Obama is more vulnerable than other politicians. So, why?

Posted by: Woody Mena at February 1, 2007 6:45 AM
Comment #206095

Mike,

Are you saying that “Faux” news is the make or break for a candidate?

Your friend,

Ben Dover
That was for KansasDem

Posted by: Andre M. Hernandez at February 1, 2007 8:39 AM
Comment #206100

Wishful thinking on your part, Mike. Logically speaking, why would a Right-Wing run news network be crucial for selling Obama’s candidacy, and why would he want to give these folks more grist for the mill after they pulled a mistake worse than the Documents fiasco that sunk Dan Rather?

I mean, this doesn’t even compare in terms of how badly they got the story wrong. Dan Rather can at least say there’s evidence Bush didn’t attend enough drills to fulfill his commitment, that Bush was grounded for not getting a physical. Those are documented facts with real documents to back them. The problem with Rather was that he and Mapes accepted documents without checking them out thoroughly enough.

But these people? They managed to get just about every important detail of Obama’s education wrong: The place was a secular school, his father was an atheist who he met just once… I mean, it just goes on. And yet, having tried to defame Obama as a madrassa-brainwashed sleeper, and gotten all the facts wrong, what does FOXnews do? Nothing, it seems.

FOXNews is not interested in the facts. It’s interested in a political agenda, and has a conflict of interest regarding whether it tells people things that interfere with that agenda.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at February 1, 2007 10:29 AM
Comment #206118

News Flash: FOX news lies, and everyone knows it, even conservatives. Oh, and no one likes to watch someone be unfairly smeared, no matter what side of the fence they are on.

Posted by: Max at February 1, 2007 11:50 AM
Comment #206121

Why doesn’t Obama want to go on FOX News? Is he afraid that they might ask him some questions he doesn’t like? Like maybe where he stands on the problems facing this country. Something he hasn’t addressed yet.
But then never mind the issues. He’s got charisma. And I reckon that’s more important than his where he stands on anything.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 1, 2007 11:58 AM
Comment #206123

News Flash: FOX CNN news lies, and everyone knows it, even conservatives liberals. Oh, and no one likes to watch someone be unfairly smeared, no matter what side of the fence they are on.

Fact is the only reason liberals don’t like FOX news is because it aint as liberal as CNN, NBC, ABC, and CBS. And it gives another side of the story. The one the liberals don’t want folks to know.
Fact is that FOX is more balanced than any of the other news networks. I’ve seen a lot of liberals on it giving their opinion. I aint seen conservatives on the others giving their opinion.
Why they even have liberals with shows. And have liberal news contributors.
But then FOX aint no good because it aint all liberal.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 1, 2007 12:09 PM
Comment #206124

Obama doesn’t need anyone to trash his campaign, he is doing quite well by himself. The latest?

Did he not come out for timetabling the troops out of Iraq by spring 08? He is dead in the water, as far as most are concerned, with his clueless views.

Posted by: Seminole 6 at February 1, 2007 12:15 PM
Comment #206127

Like maybe where he stands on the problems facing this country. Something he hasn’t addressed yet.

Wrong. He has only written a book that freely shares his thinking on all major issues. Your remaining completely uninformed is simply your choice.

Posted by: Schwamp at February 1, 2007 12:36 PM
Comment #206134

Schwamp
So now we’re supposed to pay a politician to see where he stands by buying his book ? Talk about only being in it for the money.
The guy is running for President of the United States. The most powerful office in the country and possibility the world. And we need to buy his book to find out where he stands? The voters have a right to know what his positions are on the problems facing this country. And they have the right to know without buying his silly book. If he can’t state where he stands with all the press he’s been getting he doesn’t need to be in office.
The problems facing this country are more important than selling books. And until he comes out and publicly states his positions on the problems facing this country I won’t even begin to think about supporting him.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 1, 2007 1:24 PM
Comment #206136

I love fox!! I’ve listened to air america a few times; very boring. I agree with %99 of what they say, so what’s the point?
I watch fox every day. It’s kind of like that talent show thats all the rage now. guys and gals getting up in front of the camera trying to be something they aren’t: talented. I especially like that guy fred barnes. He always looks like he’s about to have a heart attack.
I wait in anticipation.
How about the other guy that looks like a hound dog? He makes me want to pat ‘im on the head!!!
Or that gray haired guy with glasses that does the “my word” segment. There’s just something about him! When he speeks i always want to grab a bag of cheese puffs and stuff it in my mouth!!!
The guy that does “heartland” is really down to earth, just a what-the-heck-i-got-to-tell-you-what-ther’e-doin’-out-in-san-francisco-today, kind of guy!! I’ve always wondered, do i live in the “heartland”. Is the heartland that place in the middle where no one wants to live anymore?
anyhow, my thoughts

Ps. I always know when someone feels that they have to tell me that they are “honest” that they are, indeed, honest. Likewise, I always feel that when someone tells me that they are “fair and balanced” that they are, indeed, fair and balanced!!!!!

Posted by: charles Ross at February 1, 2007 1:47 PM
Comment #206141

I’m not sure what the fuss is all about concerning Obama.

In his book “The Audacity of Hope” he says:

“During the five years tht we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school; in both cases, my mother was less concerned with me learning the catechism or puzzling out the meaning of the muezzin’s call to evening prayer than she was with whether I was proplerly learning my multiplication tables.”

The Muslims consider him to be a Muslim according to Sharia law. If he is truly a Christian as he says he is then why not disavow being a Muslim publicly and set the record straight. He has failed to clear the air on this issue.

Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 2:13 PM
Comment #206142
Why doesn’t Obama want to go on FOX News?

Because it’s not real news? Because they’re owned by Republicans, and he probably won’t get a fair shake?

Posted by: Max at February 1, 2007 2:14 PM
Comment #206148

The main point of this article was from a WP blog. If that is what passes as Replublican fact these days it’s no wonder Iraq is such a FUBAR.

Posted by: Dave1-20-2009 at February 1, 2007 2:30 PM
Comment #206155

Also,

If he is truly a Christian as he says he is then why not disavow being a Muslim publicly and set the record straight. He has failed to clear the air on this issue. Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 02:13 PM
Why should he have to? Why is his relationship to his God any of your business?

Posted by: Dave1-20-2009 at February 1, 2007 3:03 PM
Comment #206162

‘Why should he have to? Why is his relationship to his God any of your business?’

Romney’s a Mormom.

Posted by: dawn at February 1, 2007 3:27 PM
Comment #206163

Dave1-20-2009

Because he is a candidate for the presidency of the United States. I need to know as much about him or any other candidate as I can get. He is the one who is being public and wanting my vote. Therefore, I am entitled to know as much about him as possible.

Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 3:30 PM
Comment #206174

The Muslims consider him to be a Muslim according to Sharia law. If he is truly a Christian as he says he is then why not disavow being a Muslim publicly and set the record straight. He has failed to clear the air on this issue.

I’m confused.
First you mentioned his religion and then you asked about some issue. You haven’t brought up an issue. Was your question about an issue supposed to be part of another paragraph?

Posted by: TheTraveler at February 1, 2007 4:02 PM
Comment #206175

Ron,

If you need to find out where Obama stands on the issues, just Google him. It could not be easier. Your statement that he is hiding his positions is lauphable.

http://obama.senate.gov/issues/

Posted by: Max at February 1, 2007 4:03 PM
Comment #206177

You are entitled to inquire; you are not entitled to know everything about any candidate. Fortunately our forefathers exhibited some intelligence in this matter when they wrote the Constitution.

The Constitution (Article VI) states, “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

Posted by: cube at February 1, 2007 4:05 PM
Comment #206178

TheTraveler

The issue is whether he is Christian or Muslim. The public needs to know which one he is.

Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 4:05 PM
Comment #206179

Max
Because it’s not real news? Because they’re owned by Republicans, and he probably won’t get a fair shake?

By that you mean he won’t get treated with the kid gloves that the liberal press has been handling him with?
GOOD!
He needs to finally start stating where he stands on the problems facing this country. If he can’t answer some tough questions how do you expect him to make tough decisions?
I don’t see why none of Obama’s supporters think he needs to make a stand on the issues and answer tough questions. Could it be because he has no convictions and the tough questions will bring that out?

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 1, 2007 4:08 PM
Comment #206180
The Muslims consider him to be a Muslim according to Sharia law. If he is truly a Christian as he says he is then why not disavow being a Muslim publicly and set the record straight. He has failed to clear the air on this issue.

A: You’re full of it.
B: Personally, I don’t think he has to dignify this attack.
C: He did disavow it publicy, many times, and that disavowal was printed all over the world:
D: You should learn how to use Google.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/4497076.html

WASHINGTON — Sen. Barack Obama fought back Wednesday against an allegation that he was educated at a radical Islamic school as a child in Indonesia.

Interviews by The Associated Press at the elementary school in Jakarta found that it’s a public and secular institution that has been open to students of all faiths since before the White House hopeful attended in the late 1960s.

Obama, who was born in Hawaii, moved to Indonesia at age 6 to live with his mother and stepfather, attending schools in the country until age 10, when he returned to Hawaii to live with his maternal grandparents.

“The allegations are completely baseless,” said Akmad Solichin, the vice principal at SDN Menteng 1, who added, “Yes, most of our students are Muslim, but there are Christians as well. Everyone’s welcome here … It’s a public school.”

The contention that Obama was educated at a radical Muslim madrassa surfaced on the Web site of the conservative Insight magazine the day after Obama announced he was jumping into the 2008 presidential race. Conservative Internet blogs and the Fox News Channel picked up the story.

Obama on Wednesday called the reports “scurrilous,” and his communications director

e-mailed reporters a lengthy memo attempting to set the record straight.

“I think they recognize that the notion that me going to school in Indonesia for two years at a public school there at the age of 7 and 8 is probably not going to be endangering in some way the people of America,” Obama said on NBC’s Today show.

The push-back was a signal that Obama would fight to protect his reputation in the presidential campaign.

Posted by: Max at February 1, 2007 4:11 PM
Comment #206181

The issue is whether he is Christian or Muslim. The public needs to know which one he is.

I don’t. I doubt many people care. People don’t vote based on religion, after all.

Posted by: TheTraveler at February 1, 2007 4:13 PM
Comment #206183

Max
Checked out Obama’s web site. Thanks for the link.
At least he says what he stands for on it. And it sounds good on paper. Now I’ll have to wait and see how he plans to do all those things.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 1, 2007 4:23 PM
Comment #206186

bube

This is not a religious test for qualification to be president. I have a right to know what his religious convictions are. You may not care to know, but I and many people do.

Max

Read my above post. Obama said in his book where he went to school. Spin your wheel of fortune any way you want. I was taking what Obama said. Telling me that I should learn how to Google is personal attack. I will drop it there and continue on.

Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 4:32 PM
Comment #206189

Mike:

A far right rag called Insight started this madrassah thing and Fox followed through. Since then it has been debunked. Obama does not have to put up with those who try to hurt him. Case closed.

Why do you bring it up? Are you trying to spread bad vibes against Obama? Are you afraid that Obama may make it all the way to the presidency?

This is so Republican. If you don’t like what he stands for or if you have a beef about his policies, state them. Don’t try to tear down his character with malicious lies.

Posted by: Paul Siegel at February 1, 2007 4:46 PM
Comment #206193

HEY! wait a minute guy’s! I wrote an extremely funny comment up above ( comment # 206136). I expect some feedback:
scorn, mockery, even ridicule, i don’t care. but don’t just pretend it’s not there.
Tomh. I at least expected something out of you, something like: “how could you say that about fox news”.
any feedback, however abusive, would be appreciated.

Posted by: charles Ross at February 1, 2007 5:03 PM
Comment #206197

Charles Ross

I seriously try not to be abusive. So let me try some other way to please you.

I don’t watch No Broadcast Criteria
Nor Always Bad Commentary
Nor Continually No News
Nor Crusty Benign Snots
Nor do I read LA Tacky
Nor NY Terrorist
And I do watch some, not much, of FOXY News
Because they have the most foxy gals on camera.

Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 5:59 PM
Comment #206199
I don’t watch…Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 05:59 PM
Although I did enjoy your acronyms, your comment is that you don’t watch any news yet you would like us to believe you are sufficiently informed to have an opinion worthy of consideration. Where do you get your information?

As for Obamas religion, I agree some of the prior comments. You have the right to ask, he has the right to not tell you (although he apparently has, repeatedly), you have the right to (not) vote for him.

Posted by: Dave1-20-2009 at February 1, 2007 6:41 PM
Comment #206211

The paranoia liberals have towards Fox News cracks me up. Nothing drives a liberal nuts faster than a person (or network) with the audacity to disagree with them.

As for the importance of Obamas religion yes it is important. Whether people will admit it or not the west is, at a minimum, in a cultural war with Islam. If he does consider himself Muslim what would that mean in terms of foreign policy?

Posted by: Carnak at February 1, 2007 7:41 PM
Comment #206214

Fox news??
Hey aren’t they the ones who said Mark Foley was a democrat?

http://www.newshounds.us/2006/10/03/fox_uses_subliminal_ploy_on_foley_head_shot.php

Posted by: 037 at February 1, 2007 8:09 PM
Comment #206215

Ron Brown said
“So now we’re supposed to pay a politician to see where he stands by buying his book ? Talk about only being in it for the money.”

Actually writing a book puts on record. As far a buying it, have you heard of a library?

Posted by: 037 at February 1, 2007 8:14 PM
Comment #206229

037
Not all of us live in large communities where libraries have a large selection of books to choose from. I live 2 hours from Phoenix and almost 2 hours from Flagstaff. We do not have a working relationship with either cities libraries.

Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 9:40 PM
Comment #206232

Dave1-20-2009
I research hot button issues. I get the hot button issue from independent news sources almost exclusively on the web. TV news is a show and shows are entertainment. I do not find the news entertaining. I like to go to the horse’s mouth, so to speak, and get the info.

Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 9:49 PM
Comment #206235

tomh,

There are many types of “independent news sources” Many of them have a clear agenda of supporting a particular view. For example; if you go to freeperland you might call that independent, I call it propoganda. Similarly, if I used Air America as a source I would justifiably expect similar derision. The real problem of web-only reporting is there is no accountability or journalistic integrity required. It also seems a real problem of living in the middle of nowhere is finding freely available peer reviewed literature.

Posted by: Davw1-20-2009 at February 1, 2007 10:12 PM
Comment #206236

Dave1-20-2009
Kinda like CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, Reuters, AP, etc.

A good place to start is the intel sources. They project an agenda. One does not have to agree with the agenda, but it is a place to get some of the topics circulating. Cross referencing is a must. Digging deeper is absolutely necessary. And I check occasionally with some MSM’ers to see what they are saying about a given subject. But I never take the MSM as a reliable source. They might be on occasion, but generally they are not.

Posted by: tomh at February 1, 2007 10:20 PM
Comment #206240

Actually, not at all like AP, Reuters, CBS, NBC, etc… All of whom are rarely proven wrong once they go to press as fact with News. Especially now that they aren’t the pussies they were for the last five years of Rovian fascism. Fox, OTOH, is constantly shown to be wrong and is often caught promoting as factual news items that are complete crap.

Posted by: Dave1-20-2009 at February 1, 2007 10:35 PM
Comment #206242

I believe people watch what ever news source most matches their political leanings. I must say FOX news has pushed alot of liberals buttons so they must be watching it too. Why watch it if you think its bogus? I think FOX is the most balanced as far as the guests they have on to discuss their views. I find it interesting to watch CNMBC and MSNBC once in awhile to see the liberal views.If you dont like the political leanings of a particular news source, use your remote find a news source with the same views you have.

Posted by: dolan at February 1, 2007 10:40 PM
Comment #206244

Mike,
On Obama, I think he will go on FOX I dont think he is worried. He has almost two years to get his ideas out to the country and right now he is content to be seen in the softer news outlets. As far as his religion any clear thinking person out there knows he’s not a terrorist. I think Hillarys campaign experience will defeat him in the dem primary rather then the media.

Posted by: dolan at February 1, 2007 11:10 PM
Comment #206284

Anyone seriously looking for accurate and honest political info would not tune into fox news. They can at best be seen as a 24 hour facimilie of Limbaugh or O’Reilly. In otherwords sensationalistic partisan extremism catering to the easily manipulated minds of those who choose to believe the twisted nonsense they so unconciously deliver. I think political tabloid TV would be an appropriate descriptive. On the other hand I would not watch CNN if I were looking for a fair and balanced perspective. However I do not consider them nearly as biased as Fox.

And if you were truly looking to find honest and open information into Obama’s personality traits Fox news is the last place one would start.

Posted by: ILdem at February 2, 2007 8:56 AM
Comment #206291
Read my above post. Obama said in his book where he went to school. Spin your wheel of fortune any way you want. I was taking what Obama said. Telling me that I should learn how to Google is personal attack. I will drop it there and continue on.

The article I quoted and linked to was Obama’s response. He went to Public school, and denied being Muslim. I am sorry I attacked you. It would have been better if I said that people in general should research a bit before making their statements.

Posted by: Max at February 2, 2007 9:45 AM
Comment #206312

Nice to see that racial and religious bigotry is still alive and well here. All hail the GOP and its southern strategy. How sad.

Posted by: allen at February 2, 2007 11:20 AM
Comment #206325

037
When someone is running for public office they should be openly stating where they stand on the issues. Voters shouldn’t have to read books or go on the web to find out.
So far there’s only one person on either side where we know where they stand. We all know that Hillary wants to be Queen of the United States and will say or do anything that’ll get her there.


FOX News is more of a commentary type of thing. I enjoy watching the shows that have guest on them. They will get folks that disagree with them as well as folks that do. You get both sides of the issue.
I usually watch CBS news because it come on right after the local news and our local CBS station has the best local coverage. CBS also has the shows my wife likes at night so we just don’t switch channels.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 2, 2007 12:11 PM
Comment #206331

Barack hussien obama, about as american as toyota, koyota, kawasaki, and jihad.

now that is what i call our next american president.

did I mention that he can be whatever he wants after he gets into power. My bet is on jihad islamist like his bud ellison.

Posted by: im at February 2, 2007 12:21 PM
Comment #206421

Allen

Sad indeed. I live in a highly republican agricultural area and know very well the shallow and biggoted views of these types. They are surprisingly numerous. At contact with a non white they play the we are equals game but as soon as that person is gone all the racial slurs and ethnic jokes come out. I find it embarrasing and have been alienated by a few because I refuse to participate in such hateful and neanderthalic behaviour. What is really sad is that most of them are just a product of their environment and base their beliefs not on actual experiences but by how they were raised and peer pressure. Sometimes I wonder if racially we are growing as a society.

Posted by: ILdem at February 2, 2007 9:52 PM
Comment #206575

ILdem: I do think we have made some progress. However, the GOP continues to validate racists specifically and bigots generally. The old code words such as “states’ rights,” “southern strategy,” and “activist judges” are alive and well in the GOPs platform. I believe we will continue to make slow progress as more people’s experiences increase with persons different than themselves. Nevertheless, we are at least 2 or 3 generations away from realizing the Constitution’s vision of equality in the United States. A friend suggests it will take 200 years from the time of the Emancipation Proclamation for racist bigotry to truly subside.

Posted by: Allen at February 4, 2007 10:18 AM
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