Standing The Test Of Time...And Then Some!

So,what will be the legacy of the BEST and STRONGEST vice-president this nation has seen since the Roosevelt administration?

Will Dick Cheney be branded by historians as a liar, a war criminal, a profiteer and a corporate bag man as the lefties say or will he viewed as the BEST and STRONGEST vice-president since the Roosevelt administration?

Has hateful politics succeeded is besmirching this American patriot or will those in the know finally give him his dues?

Well,my vote says he will be viewed as the best vice-president since the Roosevelt administration,and here's why.....

I have always like Dick Cheney.

I first took note of his presence back in the first Gulf war.

His every day presence on those daily Defense Department press briefings gave me the constant assurance that shortly Saddam and his vaunted "elite" Republican Guard would get their ass kicked and get booted from Kuwait quickly.

His predictions proved prophetic,and within a blink of an eye,Saddam's "elite" were high-tailing it over the border.

As I vice president,and as a prime target in the hateful partisan war now gripping our country,I wondered how he would stack up versus those who had served the position previously.

Examining the list of past vice-presidents all the way back to the Roosevelt administration,I came to the conclusion that he stands head and shoulders above the rest.

Yup,I rate him the BEST and STRONGEST..what do you think?

Now lefties,before you jump through your computer and try to strangle the Mighty Eagle,let's analyze the list of pretenders to the throne and I am sure that you will agree with me.

Consider:

1.John C. Garner (1933-1941)

"Cactus Jack" was a smooth political operator who helped out FDR during his first two terms,but objected to him running for a third term.As a result he ran against FDR in the Democratic convention but lost.Talk about loyalty,huh? He now occupies history as a footnote.
Overall Grade:C- Overall performance:C- Advantage:Cheney.
"The vice presidency isn't worth a pitcher of warm spit." - John Nance Garner

2.Henry A. Wallace (1941-1945)
While he had a distinguished career in Congress,he was booted by FDR in favor of Harry Truman.He later ran for president under the Progressive Party banner.Not much here. Lightweight.
Overall grade: C- Overall performance:C- Advantage :Cheney


3.Harry Truman (1945)
He served only four months as Roosevelt's vice-president after Wallace got the boot,barely unpacking his briefcase before moving into the Oval Office.
Overall grade:Incomplete Overall performance:incomplete Advantage:Cheney

"Look at all the Vice Presidents in history. Where are they? They were about as useful as a cow's fifth teat."
- Harry S. Truman

4.Alben W. Barkley(1949-1953)
After a distinguished Congressional career,he was an old 71 years old when he became Truman's veep (the press coined that phrase for the first time here )and he wasn't much of a factor as a political force.He tried to garner support for a presidential run after Truman lost New Hampshire,but couldn't get the traction.
Overall grade c+,Overall Performance C+, Advantage:Cheney
"This is a hell of a job. I can only do two things: one is to sit up here and listen to you birds talk....The other is to look at newspapers every morning to see how the president's health is." - Charles Dawes, speaking to Alben Barkley

5.Richard M. Nixon (1953-1961):
Tricky Dick was a brilliant man and showed flashes of his coming Foreign Affairs contribution to America,but his Checker's Speech and bland personality inspired no one but the most loyal of Republican conservatives.Eisenhower had little use for him and as a result Nixon contributed little to the administration.
Overall grade:B-,Overall performance:B- Advantage:Cheney.
"It just is not possible in politics for a vice president to 'chart out his own course.'" - Richard Nixon

6.Lyndon B. Johnson(1961-1963).
The veteran congressman and ultimate political insider was intentionally put on the shelf by Jack and Bobby.Camelot ruled and he was a serf.I think I saw him on that grassy knoll.
Overall grade:C-,Overall performance:C, Advantage:Cheney

7.Hubert H. Humphrey (1965-1969).

The liberal senator from Minnesota was strictly on damage control as a result of the Vietnam war,and he ultimately was sucked up in its vortex.Had Bobby not been assassinated,he would have been relegated as a footnote to the Johnson administration only.
Overall grade C-,Overall Performance:C Advantage:Cheney
"The President has only 190 million bosses. The Vice President has 190 million and one."- Hubert Humphrey

8.Spiro T. Agnew (1969-1973)

A disgraced politician who was booted for corruption.I liked his speeches,though.He shiit all over the hippies.He shit on Kerry,so that counts for something,I guess.This guy was a complete joke. Overall Grade:F,Overall Performance:D-, Advantage:Cheney
"A little over a week ago, I took a rather unusual step for a vice president…I said something." - Spiro T. Agnew


9. Gerald Ford (1973-1974)
Talk about stepping in shit.This Michigan Congressman was a good boy and was later rewarded with the presidency down the line.Became a president without ever having received one vote from the American people. Scary. Plus he couldn't talk two sentences without mumbling and wasn't exactly light on his feet either.Played football at Michigan.No wonder they can't win a big game.

Overall Grade:C .Overall Performance:C- Advantage:Cheney

10.Nelson A. Rockefeller (1974-1977 )
An outspoken favorite of mine who once flipped off hippie protesters during a speech.I hope that was Kerry he gave the bird to.Even though I liked his hoots-pa,overall he has an undistinguished term in office.Very ugly wife too.I think her name was "Happy".
Overall Grade:B- Overall Performance:B-, Advantage:Cheney

"I am not in a leadership position. I am supporting the President. He can exert the leadership and I can support him." - Nelson Rockefeller

10. Walter F. Mondale(1977-1981)

Was stupid enough to accept the vice-presidential nod from that wimp Carter.Had one continuous eye brow which turned the ladies off.Stupidity through association,that's what I say.Lousy presidential candidate too.
Overall grade:C-.Overall Performance:C-, Advantage:Cheney

11.George Bush Number 1 (1981-1989)
Probably overqualified for the job but proved to be a very loyal ally to President Regan. Steady performance throughout two terms,almost never stuck his foot in his mouth.Probably the best VP up to this point.Nipped at the finish by Cheney though.
Overall Grade: B,Overall Performance:B Advantage:Cheney12

12J. Danforth (Dan) Quayle (1989-1990)
Huh? I still can't believe that Bush picked this guy.He sucked.
Overall Grade: D-,Overall Performance: D- Advantage: Cheney
"Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy." - Lloyd Bentsen, to Dan Quayle, in 1988 Vice Presidential Debate

13. Al Gore (1993-2001)
"He Wuz Robbed!"..thus the battle cry of the left and the lineal descendant of today's rancor.Had he ascended the presidency,every female would would be wearing a burka today.A one trick pony (the environment) who invented the internet,today he stars in his own movies.Me thinks he want to be president again,though.A wimp while iin office who allegedly has grown testicles after the fact.Oh well,"bring him on",as they say.
Overall Grade: C,Overall Performance:C+ Advantage:Cheney

14.Dick Cheney (2001-Present)
In reality,the de-facto president who deflected much of the heat onto himself in order to defend the real president from political opponents. Has teflon skin.Regularily shits on liberals.I still have the video of him kicking John Edward's ass in the last election..really took that schmuck to school.Held the real president's hand and taught him how to fight off various liberal lightweights.A son of a bitch.A warrior. Repeatedly slapped around every political opponent until only a single female remains.Out of respect to the gender,he lets her blab.Would make a superb president but has a bad heart.
Overall Grade :A Overall Performance: A Advantage:Himself


Let the fun begin.....

P.S I enjoyed www.vice-presidents.com in researching some of this stuff...chock full of info

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Posted by Sicilian Eagle at May 26, 2006 7:38 PM
Comments
Comment #151779

Cheney and Bush both will be branded as incompetent buffoons. They have driven the country into a hole on every front imaginable. It’s shameful that the next generation (who cannot even vote yet) will still be cleaning up the gargantuan mess this administration has made.

Posted by: pianofan at May 26, 2006 8:50 PM
Comment #151781

Since the Bush administration will go down as one of the worst for the nation’s future, and since, Cheney can rightfully and defensibly be said to be one of the most influential VP’s in history, logic dictates that Cheney will go down also as one of this nation’s worst.

Posted by: David R. Remer at May 26, 2006 8:55 PM
Comment #151783

Care to cite any reasons for why you like him that actually happened while he was Vice President? That would probably be pertinent to rating him the best and most strongest Vice President ever.

Posted by: Max at May 26, 2006 9:04 PM
Comment #151787

Bush and Cheney came along at time when we needed strong leadership. I thank God every day that we did not have Gore in the seat of power. I believe that we would have experienced at least one other 9/11 if Gore(the Bore) were president.
Dick Cheney has my complete respect; he is a straight talker. You get what he believes, he doesn’t care about polls, he has no ambitions to be president. I wish the conservatives (and I am a conservative and proud of it) had someone like him to run for the presidency in 2008.
I have never posted comments on the Internet before, but I felt strongly about this topic; I appreciate this forum which I just discovered a few days ago.

Posted by: Old Mike at May 26, 2006 9:14 PM
Comment #151798

Mike
Welcome aboard !

David
I don’t think so.YOU may think so,but these two picked our nation up at its lowest point….even you,I bet were happy when we started bombing the Taliban back to the stone age,no?

Of all the numbers That I have heard,the most significant one will be Zero….that is how many attacks have takes place on this soil in nearly 5 years now..and don’t give me the malarky about attacks taking time.

Bush’s presidency still has pages to be written in it…and I think the next two and a half years will be positive..despite what the left thinks

My view anyway.

Posted by: sicilianeagle at May 26, 2006 9:59 PM
Comment #151799

SE,

“but these two picked our nation up at its lowest point”

That wouldn’t be because they were the ones in power when it happened, would it?

“Of all the numbers That I have heard, the most significant one will be Zero….that is how many attacks have takes place on this soil in nearly 5 years now..and don’t give me the malarkey about attacks taking time.”

I haven’t seen many dinosaurs around either.

The whole thing about terrorists is their randomness. They work on their own time table, not ours. Otherwise it wouldn’t be terrifying.

Just how many terrorists have been busted in the last 5 years?

I’d think the administration would want to crow about that, wouldn’t you?

Posted by: Rocky at May 26, 2006 10:14 PM
Comment #151800

Can we grade these VP’s on a curve?

Every election supposedly represents an important turning point. The 2000 election arguably represented the least significant election in modern times. The issues of 2000 involved a discussion of what to do with the surplus. Foreign policy barely registered on the electorate radar. The possibiity of recession was barely mentioned during the campaign. Shortly after the (s)election of Bush, Congress passed the first round of tax cuts, and mailed everyone checks.

9/11 represented the first challenge requiring leadership. Bush & Cheney more or less passed the test. Afghanistan represented the next challenge, and Bush & Cheney passed again. The country was united more than any other time in my life. The equity markets dropped after 9/11, but recovered most of the losses in about six weeks.

In 2001, Cheney met with energy companies behind closed doors, and wrote our energy policies to benefit them at the expense of the American public. Despicable. Utterly despicable.

In the summer of 2002, The Bush/Cheney administration started shaking as the effects of the first tax cut took hold. The surplus disappeared, and deficits skyrocketed. Jobs went abroad, millions of jobs disappeared, midterm elections loomed, and the Bush/Cheney administration desperately needed a distraction from the disastrous implementation of conservative policies. Federal spending soared. Tax revenues tanked. Bin Laden escaped.

So we invaded Iraq.

And the wheels came off.

Halliburton received the king-hell no-bid contract of all time. Oil prices soared. Liberals in the Senate voted against going into Iraq, and the largest demonstration in American history opposed invasion; but with dollar signs in our eyes, and American Flag pins on our lapels, and with firm handshakes and hearty backslaps, Bush & Cheney & Republicans & conservatives demanded an unprovoked attack; so we went into Iraq and started divvying up their industries among multi-national corporations…

And now we talk of Bush in terms of the worst president ever, and certainly Cheney deserves a similar distinction.

Conservative, Republican policies have been implemented, and excepting large corporations & the wealthiest of the wealthy, this administration has been a disaster for everyone.

Most corrupt administration? Hard to measure, but it sure looks that way. Dozens of Republican congressman are implicated by Abramoff & Fornigate. Cheney appears to have led the effort to smear Valerie Plame.

Certainly there has never, ever been an administration so cravenly in the pocket of a single industry as Bush & Cheney are in thrall to Big Oil and coal. Disgusting.

Never has an administration been so completely & disastrously wrong about an issue as important as Global Warming, and Cheney is right there in the forefront, wrong as rain, opposing anything that would slow down the record setting profits of Exxon and others.

Let us cut to the chase. Cheney has been completely, totally, demonstrably wrong in every important regard, because his philosophy is wrong.

Posted by: phx8 at May 26, 2006 10:18 PM
Comment #151804

Dick,

Congrats on your victory in Iraq…
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/26/iraq.iran/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

Posted by: Vincent Vega at May 26, 2006 10:37 PM
Comment #151815

Vice Presidents? We have Capital hill rushing to protect itself from investigation by claiming a non exsistent constitutional right, we have a senate dead set against doing anything remotely like what over 70% of Americans want done to protect our borders and we are slowly being surrounded by a phalanx of socialist banana republics. Iran warns us of 55,000 volunteer martyrs willing to blow themselves up along with anything that appears American in nature and as we, like Alice, peer into the looking glass, China is amassing the largest military in the world. How long after their booming economy runs out of natural resources do you think it will be before they use that military? Vice Presidents? Really important topic. How about rating the best staffer in the House of Representatives? Or most outstanding minority whip.

Posted by: JR at May 26, 2006 11:06 PM
Comment #151816

SE, Cheney’s a complete crackpot. Only 18% of Americans think he’s not the worst VP ever.

I’ve been following Cheney’s career for a long time too, SE. I remember back in the Gulf War when he advised President Bush (the good one, not the idiot surrender-monkey) to let the Israelis retaliate against Iraq and break up the colaition and draw Egypt and Jordan into the conflict on Saddam’s side. The guy’s a menace.

He and Quayle also thought the collapse of the Soviet Union was a Commie trick to get us to lower our guard. Luckily, no one in the Bush administration (the good one, not the wacko one) paid any attention to him. (You can fact check me in Bush & Scowcroft’s book if you want.)

No, I have to give the VP award to Gore. His reinventing government initiative cut about half a million government bureaucracy jobs, he cast the deciding vote on Clinton’s wildly successful deficit reduction legislation, and he was right about everything from the internal combustion engine to the lock box to terrorism.

My favorite Gore story: Clinton is unsure of the legality of snatching a terrorist from Khartoum, Sudan, and Gore laughs, “That’s a no-brainer. Of course it’s a violation of international law, that’s why it’s a covert action. The guy is a terrorist. Go grab his ass!”

Posted by: American Pundit at May 26, 2006 11:12 PM
Comment #151818

SE,

Thanks for such a great laugh.

Posted by: ElliottBay at May 26, 2006 11:19 PM
Comment #151824

Megan Marshak rated the performance of Nelson Rockefeller “Incomplete.” Rockefeller did not perform in a leadership position with Megan, but rather a missionary one. He suffered a massive heart attack while on top of the 27 year old, and because of the potential scandal, she did not call for an ambulance. She called a friend. The friend called an ambulance, which arrived an hour later. Rockefeller died on the way to the hospital. In his will, Rockefeller left Marshak $50,000 and a townhouse apartment.

If nothing else, I give the nod to Rockefeller for most noteworthy ending of any Vice-President.

Posted by: phx8 at May 26, 2006 11:50 PM
Comment #151829

What phx8 said.
AP, excellent photo. Really highlights exactly what true evil looks like.
Elliotbay, this gave me a great laugh too!
Thanks for the giggle, Sic Eagle.

Posted by: Adrienne at May 27, 2006 12:17 AM
Comment #151831

There’s still 2 years left and you’re already talking about his “Historical View”.

What does that say about you’re thoughts on the present?

Posted by: Aldous at May 27, 2006 12:21 AM
Comment #151838

Phx8, you rock!


Was this thread a joke? Was there actually praise for Cheney’s powers of prognostication?

They welcomed us with flowers at our feet in Iraq?

This guy, with his no-bid thieving criminal activities, is the personification of greed, immorality, and, well…evil. How anyone doesn’t see that is beyond me completely.

P.S. Al Gore never said he “invented the internet.” You and your conservative media are just full of it. Ungh! I *hate* that misquote in particular!

Posted by: DavidL at May 27, 2006 12:54 AM
Comment #151840

A Warrior? Yeah, he fought his way through five deferments. He’s a political operator. His real skill is knowing the ins and outs of power and politics. He’s a control freak who lets the politics get the best of him.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 27, 2006 12:59 AM
Comment #151843

Sic. Eagle, any American patriot in the office of President at the time of 9/11 and receiving the same intel as to who was behind the attacks, would have taken very similar if not identical action toward the Taliban.

What took extreme incompetence was to take military out of Afghanistan before resolution and victory there to attack Iraq which had nothing to do with 9/11. It took Bush and the neocons to pull that one off. Most responsible patriotic Republicans would not have even dreamed that one up in the middle of fighting al-Queda globally and Taliban and al_Queda in Afghanistan/Pakistan.

Posted by: David R. Remer at May 27, 2006 1:13 AM
Comment #151847

Sicilian,
Cheney is a strong VP. I will grant you that. I am not so sure that reflects favorably on Bush, but there it is. However, being strong, or being influential, is not the same as being right, or being a force for the good.

Among the Republican Veeps, only Bush #41 could be viewed favorably, and that requires closing my eyes, and singing “la la la I cannot hear you” when the subject of Iran-Contra arises.

Much as I liked Mondale, Gore has to be given the nod. He contributed to the most successful presidential admnistration since WWII. During the past years he has found the fire in his belly, and given some outstanding speeches. He has found himself. He knows what he believes, and finally, we have a politician of national stature who will say the right thing, rather than some carefully triangulated crap. (Maybe Hillary & McCain could run together on a unity ticket- standing for everything by standing for anything).

With the deficit hawk attitude of Dean at the DNC, and the integrity of Feingold, and with Gore finally finding the inner fire to deserve a chance to lead this country, the Democrats could be formidable in 2008.

Posted by: phx8 at May 27, 2006 1:58 AM
Comment #151849

SE,

“I like Agnew because he shit on Hippies”

Thanks for elevating the discussions here at Watchblog. Truly a thread in which we can all take pride.

Posted by: gergle at May 27, 2006 2:04 AM
Comment #151855

YIKES!

I go out for a nice dinner last night of steamers and fresh haddock with eagle-friends, and come home this morning to find the entire left side has posted to this article!

Don’t you lefties have a life?

Geez..the piece was WHIMSICAL…not scholarly.

I was tweaking your noses a bit this fine weekend.

Had it been scholarly,the piece would be in National Review,not here.

The point of the piece was that for the last 60 years or so,most of the veeps were relegated to the shelf by who ever was the president.

Cheney,despite the fact that he makes you puke,has never been on the shelf.Rather,the guy has acted downright presidential….not being afraid of rolling up his sleeves and slugging it out with anyone.

I admire that…a lot.

No offense,but if Gore does decide to run again,I will let you in on a secret:The attack dogs of the right will have plastered all over the place those comments he made to the Saudis a few months ago.He will be screwed,blued and tattoed,count on it.

Right now the right is playing catch…in a prevent defense so to speak.Keeping its powder dry.Adding money to its war chest at an unprecented rate.

Now is not the time to lower the boom…the month of May never is during a mid-term election cycle.

Right about Labor Day,however,the flame-throwers will come out and they will all be head-hunting.

You know it and I know it.

Picture this:In two years or so,AFTER Cheney leaves office,and with the gloves of the vice-presidency untied,imagine the content of his speeches as he zips here and there throwing bombs…absolute bombs…at the like of a very weak (Gore?Clinton?Feinberg?Who?) Democratic Party lead by a psycho (Dean) that hasn’t had a single answer to any question posed on policy that would actually work in years and years.

I am already writing stuff and can’t wait until the fall.

The message of what has been accomplished will be driven home unfettred from all the bull-shit from the left.Count on it.

Anyway,look at the list again and tell me from that group who had the capability to bite the enemy on the face during a war.

Hmmmm…

Posted by: sicilianeagle at May 27, 2006 6:51 AM
Comment #151856

Whoops

That’s Feingold….talk about name recognition…
and electability…..whoops..

Posted by: sicilianeeagle at May 27, 2006 7:06 AM
Comment #151857

To not put too fine a point on it, It is clear here that you don’t know the meaning of scholarly or humor. Invective, smutty rant, right up your alley.

Posted by: gergle at May 27, 2006 7:09 AM
Comment #151863

American Pundit,

The bulk of those half a million government jobs Gore got rid of came out of reducing the Army from 18 to 10 Active Divisions. Now those of us who actually fight the war on terror can count on at least 1 year out of 3 in a combat zone, either Iraq, Afghanistan, or wherever else the next war is. That means over the course of a 20 year career, we’ll spend an average of 6 in a combat zone, more than our grandparents did in WWII. Thanks a bunch Al! I suppose good work like this is why the military (which, as the left loves to point out when not calling us baby murders, is over represented statistically by minorities who traditionally vote Democrat) voted over 80% for Bush in both elections.

Posted by: 1LT B at May 27, 2006 8:33 AM
Comment #151869

1LT,

I don’t suppose you were paying attention when it happened, so I will re-post this;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney#Budgetary_practices

“Over Cheney’s four years as secretary of defense, encompassing budgets for fiscal years 1990-93, DoD’s total obligational authority in current dollars declined from $291.3 billion to $269.9 billion. Except for FY 1991, when the TOA budget increased by 1.7 percent, the Cheney budgets showed negative real growth: -2.9 percent in 1990, -9.8 percent in 1992, and -8.1 percent in 1993. During this same period total military personnel declined by 19.4 percent, from 2.202 million in FY 1989 to 1.776 million in FY 1993. The Army took the largest cut, from 770,000 to 572,000-25.8 percent of its strength. The Air Force declined by 22.3 percent, the Navy by 14 percent, and the Marines by 9.7 percent.”

It was called the end of the “Cold War”.

Cheney as head of the DoD ushered in the era of “Downsizing” the military.

Posted by: Rocky at May 27, 2006 9:25 AM
Comment #151871

Eagle,

“The attack dogs of the right” is redundant.

Posted by: ElliottBay at May 27, 2006 9:39 AM
Comment #151878

ElliotBay

How about taking a stab at answering the question of who had contributed more to assist his president since FDR?

You’ra a smart fellow and I am curious as to your response….as a matter of fact I invite all to answer the hypotheticial

Posted by: sicilianeagle at May 27, 2006 10:26 AM
Comment #151881


S.E.: You would have been right on the money if you had said no president has done more to assist his vice president.

Posted by: jlw at May 27, 2006 10:36 AM
Comment #151882

SE,

Cheney is a pit bull, and like most pit bulls should either be kept on a short leash or be destroyed.

He’s all bullshit and bluster, and as a lifelong political hack, and friend of daddy, Cheney has been more of a Presidential babysitter than a helper.

Posted by: Rocky at May 27, 2006 10:40 AM
Comment #151911

VP Dick Cheney is a foreign policy man and, as far as I’m concerned, the function of a President should be limited to foreign policy.

Only since FDR did the role of US Presidents become so focused on domestic issues. We already 535 (or 537?) elected officials handling domestic affairs. Do we really need one more?

Posted by: Dr Politico at May 27, 2006 12:46 PM
Comment #151922

Yes Dick Cheney the Patriot. This man is five times the draft dodger that the right called Clinton. When his country called on him to serve he never answered the call. I think Cheney will be best remembered as resiging in shame over the Libby Plame disgrace, that and shooting his friend in the face will shitfaced on a “hunt”

and Eagle your correct no Vp has ever helped his boss out running the country down than good ole Dick what would we do with out him

Posted by: Jeff Gannon at May 27, 2006 1:34 PM
Comment #151939


S.E. I believe our president would have been far better served if he had chosen someone with the intelligence of a Casper Weinburger rather than Dick Cheney who in my opinion has limited intelligence and is a a—hole to boot. A second major mistake was allowing Cheney to pick Donald Rumsfeld to head defence. Bush should have insisted that Colan Powell take that job. Two other people who never should have been allowed near the White House are Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Pearl. I believe that had not George Bush allowed these neocons into his administration he would have had a much greater chance of being a successful and well liked president.

Posted by: jlw at May 27, 2006 2:19 PM
Comment #151946

All I here from rightwin pundunts is that has been 5 years and no attacks on The US.How was it the bombing in the parking Garage of trade towers till the planes were flowen into them. The adminstration was warned that alqueda was determined to hijack planes and fly them into building,but Miss Rice Said that intel did not say when or wher this was in July of 01.

Posted by: Earl at May 27, 2006 2:43 PM
Comment #151987

SE-
The trouble with modern media conservatives is that they say outrageous things on a regular basis just to shock people, and keep up their reputations as politically incorrect, so we’ve gotten use to you folks saying outrageous things in dead seriousness.

Dr. Politico-
Funny. I thought the function of the president was to lead the executive branch in executing the laws of the land.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 27, 2006 7:49 PM
Comment #151998

Eagle,

Sorry, I can’t answer your question. Every time I think that ANYONE finds Cheney a good VP, I crack up.

Posted by: ElliottBay at May 27, 2006 9:01 PM
Comment #152074

Stephen

Don’t get me wrong…I like the guy…a lot.

I was being whimsical about the editorial comments that I made in the original piece on the other veeps.

Cheney represents an element here in America that fundamentally sees things vastly different that you and all the people over there on the left.

That side won.

Twice.

Plus the also won Congress.

Thus,I can understand your party’s constant slamming the guy.

However,in November you’ll get your chance to rectify the wrong,and in ‘08 the same hold true with the Oval office.

Let’s see how this plays out.

Again,I laughed when people talked impeachment.Had Bush in fact been impeached,this guy is president.If this guy gets impeached,the speaker is president.

By the way,on his advise the president decided to slap that 45 day cooling off period on the Justicepartment thing.

Seems like a pretty good move to me.

Posted by: sicilianeagle at May 28, 2006 7:06 AM
Comment #152159

Yes Cheney is a strong leader,but so was Nero.
Anyone seen where Dick’s fiddle is?

Posted by: jblym at May 28, 2006 1:39 PM
Comment #152222

SE-
My concern isn’t the party politics, it’s the mess the current government’s leaving us in. Even if you’re whimsical about the other guys, supporting Cheney seriously is bound to bring disagreement from the folks here who think he’s largely responsible for many of the ruinous decisions of the past few years.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 28, 2006 5:20 PM
Comment #152392
The bulk of those half a million government jobs Gore got rid of came out of reducing the Army from 18 to 10 Active Divisions.

You’re absolutely wrong about that. Rocky gave you the lowdown on Cheney’s role in the military cuts. The half-million jobs Gore cut were all civilian jobs.

You should look into Gore’s Reinventing Government initiative. Your boys could make cuts to the bureaucracy like that any time they want — but they won’t. Hell, they expanded the federal bureaucracy by almost 40%.

Posted by: American Pundit at May 29, 2006 10:48 AM
Comment #152511
WillDick Cheney will be branded by historians as a liar, a war criminal, a profiteer and a corporate bag man as the lefties anyone honest with themselves will say.
if Gore(the Bore) were president.

That’s surprisingly shallow; to select someone acting like they know what they’re doing (i.e. Bush) vs. picking someone who stolidly and actually knows what they’re doing (Gore) is not a good way to pick a leader.

Cheney represents an element here in America that fundamentally sees things vastly different that you and all the people over there on the left. That side won.

Yes. By using hate and divisive politics. By using religious prejudice and hate. By starting a war. They will not win again. They will be punished by their concience, should they have one.

Posted by: Dave at May 29, 2006 9:03 PM
Comment #152572

This has got to be the most absurd post I’ve ever seen on Watchblog.

Posted by: gergle at May 30, 2006 5:42 AM
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