The McCain Trashing Begins

John McCain was the media darling. Even liberals claimed to like him. He was a maverick and they defined maverick as opposing the Republican establishment and especially opposing President Bush. Primary season is still almost two years out, but as he looks more like the next president of the United States, the long knives are coming out.

Getting past the primaries will be the hard part. McCain will have to get past party stalwarts, who were less than enthusiastic about him in 2000. But if he wins the Republican nomination, he will beat any Democrat. He appeals to independent as no candidate has since Ronald Reagan. Partisan Democrats, around 35% of the population, will hate McCain, just like they hated Ronald Reagan, but everyone else will give him a chance. And John McCain will be even harder to trash.

McCain will send the slimers scurrying like cockroaches when the lights come on. The Bush team did him a big backhand favor in 2000 by revealing all the possible dark sides of the man. There is nothing left for the opposition research to uncover. He survived and is still standing. He is looking forward, not backward. We all know that he is not perfect. No human being is perfect, but this one is darn good. I like the quotation from William Tecumseh Sherman, which I think applies to the situation where you know virtues outweigh faults and you just don’t care about them.

“Grant stood by me when I was crazy, and I stood by him when he was drunk. Now we stand by each other always."

So I think the ticket will be McCain/Allen in 2008 and it will win at least 55% of the vote.

Posted by Jack at April 3, 2006 9:34 PM
Comments
Comment #137719

The only reason people are trashing him is because he has backed down on so many things for which he was admired. Even when I didn’t agree with him, I respected his consistent voice. Watching FTN on Sunday I was embarrassed for him. Even so, I’d vote for him before any other GOP candidate.

Posted by: Loren at April 3, 2006 9:52 PM
Comment #137724

Jack, I agree with your assesment of the media. The long love affair is soon over. However, I’m not so sure about McCaines appeal. McCain is a turn off for Conservatives. He is NO conservative. McCaine has opposed Bush too much in much of his agenda. I for one will not support him. Can a Moderate in todays political climate really win a presidential election?

Ms. Rice has said she will not run in ‘08 - I don’t believe it. I think this is a deliberate strategy - hiding the game plan so to speak. She has no negative political baggage, and is, and will be even more qualified by then. Potential to be 1st woman president, 1st Black president, and Conservative. Yeah baby.

vilhelm

Posted by: vilhelm at April 3, 2006 10:08 PM
Comment #137726

well…we don’t have to fight about Tom Delay anymore!!
I am glad.
Sorry.
Nothing to do with topic. Just saw the breaking news on Scarborough.

McCain was called a ‘Headline Grabber’ today. I tend to agree with that.

Posted by: bug at April 3, 2006 10:20 PM
Comment #137728

Oh, please. For all his only partially deserved “maverick” tag, we all know that McCain is basically a hard-line conservative and always has been. Now sadly, the guy who once called Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell “agents of intolerance” is now sucking up to them so he can get the votes of the religious right. And, though he once claimed he’d changed his mind on abortion to become pro-choice, he’s now suddenly claiming (at least his spokesman is) that he would have signed South Dakota’s anti-abortion law.
Should the Dems start mass-producing the McCain flip-flop’s now, or what?

Posted by: Adrienne at April 3, 2006 10:24 PM
Comment #137729

McCain is my last choice for a Republican nomination, but I would vote for him if he won the nomination.

Posted by: Theway2k at April 3, 2006 10:25 PM
Comment #137732

vilhelm,

what exactly disqualifies mccain as a conservative, in your opinion? reevaluate bush’s actions, compare them against mccain’s stance on the issues… then explain to me how you could possibly believe bush is conservative, and more importantly, why you believe that mccain is not.

Posted by: diogenes (i) at April 3, 2006 10:29 PM
Comment #137733

How can you say you would support Rice? You know nothing about her positions. You know nothing about her other then her job as secretary of state. You think because she is a black, woman whe can win. What kind of token mentality is that? Has she ever had a heterosexual relationship? Has she voted for anyone in the past? What are her fiscal views? Is she pro life or anti choice? Is she in favor of life in prison or the death penalty? What state is she registered to vote in? Are her parents alive? Does she have siblings? See, you know nothing about her. Stop being shallow and look at the big picture. Stop believing what Fox news tells you. When you are the leading cable news channel, you are the mainstram media.
When you air shows like The Simpsons, The OC and others, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Posted by: Steve Rosen at April 3, 2006 10:29 PM
Comment #137735

Yes, with Tom Delay gone, (as I dance a jig), someone else will be catching the heat. There’s some to criticize McCain over, but, many more deserving politicians on both sides of the aisle than Sen. John McCain. However, if he plays this politician’s love affair with Foulmouth Falwell and crew much longer, he may move on my list to critique too!

Posted by: David R. Remer at April 3, 2006 10:33 PM
Comment #137737

I wonder if these ghost commenters are all really the same person. Could it be?

In any case, I agree with most of it. I’ve had several dealings with John McCain. He has helped disabled veterans without question just by my request. He’s a good man and the only good man I know in politics (Evan Bayh notwithstanding. Too bad he chose the wrong party).

I hope McCain wins. Certainly Hillary won’t have any chance against him (or Condi). But I won’t hold my breath waiting for this country to elect one of the last truly honest men left in politics.

Posted by: Lancelot Link at April 3, 2006 10:34 PM
Comment #137749

“John McCain was the media darling. Even liberals claimed to like him. He was a maverick and they defined maverick as opposing the Republican establishment and especially opposing President Bush. Primary season is still almost two years out, but as he looks more like the next president of the United States, the long knives are coming out.”

Almost two years to go and McCain is falling all over himself mending bridges to the radical Christian Right and Bushites. Where I come from, that’s called a flip-flopper.

I’m proud to say I’m a 35-per-center—McCain’s a Right-wing oligarch, and military-industrial-complex whore of high distinction. It will be a pleasure to vote against him

Posted by: Tim Crow at April 3, 2006 10:59 PM
Comment #137755

I hope John McCain wins election. The Democratic party has no real stances or any organization whatsoever. The only reason a democrat would win the next election is b/c the public opinion disagrees w/ the last republican administration. John McCain is one of the few honest people in politics and he has my vote when he wins the primary.

Posted by: Justin at April 3, 2006 11:20 PM
Comment #137759

Elections make politicians do funny things. Because the last few elections have been won by conservatives everyone starts running that way. Hillary is doing it, and John McCain is doing it. But what happens if the country has finally had enough with this conservative nonsense and starts voting for more liberal candidates? That’s the funny thing about this country. It votes one way until we get too close to the extremes, then we vote the other side to bring us back to the middle, until they take us to far to the extremes, etc., etc.

Personally, I will vote for the person who has remained consistant and closest to their roots. Hillary and McCain can go the way of GW Bush in 2008.

Posted by: JayJay Snowman at April 3, 2006 11:32 PM
Comment #137763

John McCain…

- His wife is a lesbian and a drug addict…
- He suffered mental problems due to his POW time…
- He fathered a Black Baby thru infidelity…
- Referred to as the “Fag Candidate”…
- He is a traitor and a coward…


Posted by: Aldous at April 3, 2006 11:54 PM
Comment #137766

john mccain has great appeal to the independent voters, he has and will continue to work with both sides of the aisle.he has great potental to be a true uniter many democrats like him . he describes himself as conservative on fiscal issues and moderate on social issues. he also has addressed concerns over the environment. the man has grit.

Posted by: RODNEY BROWN at April 4, 2006 12:05 AM
Comment #137767

I think Aldous has summed up the Republican Party opinion of John McCain.

“Would you vote for John McCain even if you found out he fathered an illegitimate black child?”

Posted by: Matisse Enzer at April 4, 2006 12:06 AM
Comment #137769

Aldous,

You left out that he was Cheney/Bush’s favorite punching bag during the 2000 primarys, yet came limping back to the fold as soon as he’d licked his wounds. Pretty much made him the coward Cheney/Bush said he was. Strange thing for a war hero and POW surviver to kow tow to a couple of wimp-outs like Shooter and Bush Baby.

Posted by: Marysdude at April 4, 2006 12:21 AM
Comment #137779

Marysdude,

Yeah, I agree! When the 2nd place Democratic Primary finisher went back to his old job (after a Democrat Presidential victory) the #2 guy went right back at arguing with the new Democratic President and all that he stood for …

oh wait, that never happened, nevermind. Disregard all after “Marysdude”.

Posted by: Brian S. at April 4, 2006 12:47 AM
Comment #137780

For all those people who say McCain isn’t conservative because he opposes Bush on too many subjects … you need to re-evaluate Bush. Bush is statistically a bigger liberal spender than Clinton for starters.

Those who label Bush as the bastion of Conservatism either don’t know the definition of Conservatism or have been hibernating these last 5 1/2 years.

Posted by: Brian S. at April 4, 2006 12:51 AM
Comment #137781

I think he’s a man of some character whose unfortunately let the politics of his party get the best of him. Folks are right to be disappointed in him when he gives into the B.S. folks like Bush pushed on the party.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at April 4, 2006 12:53 AM
Comment #137787

Aldous,

In a flame baiting mood today? You actually have the gall to call a former POW a traitor and a coward from the comfort of your little computer desk in the nude?

I have a lot of disagreements with John McCain. Immigration and campaign finance immediately come to mind. However, I have nothing but respect for this guy and I think he would wipe the floor with anyone on the Donkey ticket. His biggest obstacles are in his own party. I plan to support him in ‘08 because I think he really could be a uniter. No candidate is perfect, unless of course, if Justice Scalia ran for president. Until then, I think I can be fairly confident in guys like John McCain.

Posted by: Duano at April 4, 2006 1:15 AM
Comment #137789

BTW Jack,

Great title for your post. Looks like the libs on here wasted no time!!!

Posted by: Duano at April 4, 2006 1:18 AM
Comment #137792

Duano:

I suggest you know you’re own people first…

“Bush Used Fringe Veterans Group to Attack McCain as “Manchurian Candidate.”
“In the case of Ted Sampley, the same guy who did Bush’s dirty work in going after Sen. John McCain in the 2000 Republican primaries is doing the job against Kerry this year. Sampley dared compare McCain, who spent five years as a Vietnam POW, with ‘the Manchurian Candidate.’”

Sampley Called McCain a “Coward” and a Traitor.
“Sampley… accused McCain of being a weak-minded coward who had escaped death by collaborating with the enemy. Sampley claimed that McCain had first been compromised by the Vietnamese, then recruited by the Soviets.” “

Posted by: Aldous at April 4, 2006 1:32 AM
Comment #137797

Sounds like this Sampley guy is a real douche. Bush isn’t “my people”.

Posted by: Duano at April 4, 2006 1:54 AM
Comment #137798

Aldous:

I take it that you won’t be voting for McCain.

Posted by: goodkingned at April 4, 2006 1:57 AM
Comment #137815

>>Bush isn’t “my people”.

Posted by: Duano at April 4, 2006 01:54 AM

Duano,

Then why do you sound so much like him? Swift-boating anyone who disagrees…oh, well…

Posted by: Marysdude at April 4, 2006 2:39 AM
Comment #137826

goodkingned:

I might vote for McCain if I knew he would investigate the previous Administration. This isn’t partisan politics. I don’t like the Government in the best of times and am now appalled by the present one. Do you know how bad things are when Bush HAD to go up a podium and say, “America does not torture”? It is even more galling that practically noone from our ALLIES believed him.

During the Cuban Missile Crises, the Secretary of State went to France with evidence Russia had nukes in Cuba. The French Prime Minister never bothered to even look but gave his support without question.

America went from that to this…

Posted by: Aldous at April 4, 2006 5:08 AM
Comment #137831

Hey Steve,

Aren’t Pro-Life and Anti-Choice the same thing?

Posted by: Cathy at April 4, 2006 6:11 AM
Comment #137836

Jack,

Don’t forget that the election is TWO AND A HALF YEARS AWAY. That is an eternity in politics. McCain’s supporters who are cheered by the polls showing him beating Hillary Clinton should keep in mind that Michael Dukasis blew a 17 percent lead over George HW Bush within a matter of weeks.

Posted by: Woody Mena at April 4, 2006 7:48 AM
Comment #137844

Cindy,
I think Steve was being sarcastic. The “Pro-choice” crowd is anything but Pro Choice. They are Pro Abortion.

The only time they will support your personal choice is when you choose abortion.

On the other hand, I am truly “Pro Chioce”. Personally, I happen to choose life. For those who don’t want to choose life, they can choose condoms, birth control pills, adoption or abstenance. If your choice is “none of the above”, then you must be an adult and face the consequences. If a female is the victim of incest, rape or a medical condition that threatens her life or health, then (and only then) should abortion be an option.

Oops…that skewed off track a little. Sorry all.

Posted by: Rich at April 4, 2006 8:51 AM
Comment #137851

rich,

The rest of the world laughs at us over the abortion issue. They can’t believe an idiot like Bush got elected then re-elected over an issue already resolved elsewhere. They are further astounded that religion is still a political topic here as it is in Iraq, etc…

BTW: You are not “pro-choice” You are antichoice when you say “You can chose anything I say you can” Pro-choice means ALL the options, and a medically safe early term abortion is, and will remain, one of those choices.

Posted by: Dave at April 4, 2006 9:27 AM
Comment #137867

It is truly a sad state of affairs when we consider it “pro-choice” to be able to opt to kill and innocent baby who cannot defend itself. Of course those that choose to kill the baby would not confess to makeing it a choice to murder or not to murder.

Posted by: tomh at April 4, 2006 10:31 AM
Comment #137868

Jack,

I really like McCain and continue to do so. Seeing him suckling the teet of the ruler of the far-right, guns and god, grand dragon and hipocrite of all kooks Pat Roberts was pitiful but I realize he has to get the bible thumping kooks in his corner. Bush had too and he turned his back on the flakes as soon as he entered the White House.
McCain would make a decent president. I just hope the Republicans don’t believe what they’re seeing from him recently. It’s a ruse. He has to pretend to be leaning “right” so the sheep votes will be a gimme.
He will lead like the conservative Democrat that he is.

Posted by: Andre M. Hernandez at April 4, 2006 10:32 AM
Comment #137869

Dream on, dear friend. McCain will lose the election should he, somehow, squeak thru the primaries, which I believe is impossible. He will carry not a single Southern state, with the possible exception of Arizona and I wouldn’t bet on that one! He is unacceptable to Conservatives, generally, and Southern Conservatives loathe him. His friend, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, is in deep trouble in his home state of SC, for befriending him publicly.

No sir, McCain will not be elected President in 2008. Mind you.. I am a Conservative Republican.

Posted by: Longstreet at April 4, 2006 10:39 AM
Comment #137876

Longstreet,

There are Conservative Republicans? I thought it was a myth.
From where I stand Republicans in office are as fiscally responsible as an 8 year old with a credit card.
The Republican leaders you guys keep voting for have expanded Federal government and it’s powers beyond comparison.
Where’s the “Conservative” part?

Posted by: Andre M. Hernandez at April 4, 2006 10:50 AM
Comment #137880

“Conservative: these days, when used to describe the current administration really means “neo-fuedal” - they’d like to see (even) more power in the hands of the powerful and believe that the rich and powerful, by virtue of having become rich and powerful through work, birth, corruption, or luck, have proven that they know best for the rest of society.

“Conservative” means “conservation of power” these days, not “careful and deliberate.”

Posted by: Matisse Enzer at April 4, 2006 11:05 AM
Comment #137888

I make no judgements about McCain as a man, I don’t know him. From what I have heard he sounds like a resonably honorable man.

As an active republican I could never coniser voting for him. I would either vote 3rd party, or obstain that race.

He was wrong on McCain-FINEGOLD! Just his judgement in who he partnered with gives me pause.

He has been wrong about troop levels in Iraq, before the war unquestionably, and after the war likely.

Honestly, I don’t know one single issue that I can use to define McCain as a conservative. And he strikes me as too much the opprotunist, looking for any chance he can get to get attention, or define himself.

I hate entitlements, I hate an entitlement mentality, and I really hate it when it comes to politicans.

I hated it with Kerry, I hate it with McCain.

Posted by: Gene Betts at April 4, 2006 11:27 AM
Comment #137900

Matisse,

While I agree with part of your premise about some Conservatives, I believe it works equally for Liberals as well:

“they’d like to see (even) more power in the hands of the powerful liberals and believe that the rich and powerful liberals, by virtue of having become rich and powerful through work, birth, corruption, or luck, have proven that they know best for the rest of society.”

I am referencing the Kennedys, Kerrys, Clintons, Reids, Pelosis, Boxers, etc. They are all rich, powerful and wish to maintain and grow that power believing that they know best for the rest of society.

They may have different views (from the right) of what’s best for society, but both sides want power to further their own power and their own view of a Utopian society. Neither side represents the true will of the people evidenced by the split of the vote in the last election as well as the ever continuing poor voter turnout. The extremists in either camp seem to be running the parties and seem to wield the most power. Maybe that’s the bigger issue in the end.

Posted by: AllHypocrites at April 4, 2006 11:52 AM
Comment #137913

Benedict McCain has stabbed the Republican Party in the back at every opportunity. I would not vote for him in the primary and would seriously consider leaving the space blank when I vote in November. The idea that he would beat “any” democrat is crazy. Gov. Bill Richardson has enough moderate credentials to clean McCain’s proverbial clock. Remember, only two Presidents have ever come directly from the Senate; McCain is not good enough to be the third. Outside of Rice, the Republicans have not put up an “A” list candidate as of yet. We better find one quickly or we will have a left winger in the White House.

Posted by: Political_Sniper at April 4, 2006 12:28 PM
Comment #137935

As a moderate (albeit somewhat left-leaning) I would certainly consider voting for McCain, so long as he doesn’t change to pander for a wider audience. I think he could win hands down if he runs “as-is”….provided he gets through his own party’s primaries.

Posted by: Tom L at April 4, 2006 1:01 PM
Comment #137938

Given the choice between Clinton(s) and McCain, I would have to go for McCain…..

Posted by: Choices at April 4, 2006 1:03 PM
Comment #137948

This is what happens when you try to make the media your freind instead of trying to do things according to your core beliefs. When you lie down with snakes, don’t complain when they bite you.

Posted by: Ed at April 4, 2006 2:06 PM
Comment #137966

As much as I love to see the Republicans come out and annihilate a guy who probably WOULD beat almost any Democrat in the 08 general election, my mind boggles when any Republican calls Sen. McCain “moderate.”

From Vote-Smart.org:

0% career rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood
70% (approx) career rating from National Right to Life

90% from Americans for Tax Reform
78% from National Taxpayers’ Union
95% from Concord Coalition

72% US Chamber of Commerce

22% ACLU
5% NAACP

90% John Birch Society
100% Eagle Forum

I mean, please be my guest to eat your own, but this poor bastard can’t get a break because he failed to toe the Bush line 2 or 3 times.

Posted by: Arr-squared at April 4, 2006 2:55 PM
Comment #137998
Should the Dems start mass-producing the McCain flip-flop’s now, or what?

I want to see an ad showing the interview he did with Ted Koppel on the “Straight Talk Express” in 2000, where he stated that if his daughter was pregnant and wanted an abortion, he would want it to be her choice, with no Governmental impediments.

The man has lost any respect I once had for him, with his present pandering to the Axis Of Evil (Falwell, Robertson, Reed).

Spot on call, sister.

Posted by: Betty Burke at April 4, 2006 4:50 PM
Comment #138004

Jack,

You say that the Bush team did McCain a favor by already publishing all the possible dark sides of the man. This is hugely insulting to Democrats. We would never stoop to the tactics Bush used to win an election.

In 2000, after McCain whipped Bush in the N.H. primary, Rove’s team spread rumours McCain’s adopted child was a “black love-child” by a prostitute. Campaign staffers called voters and pretended to be pollsters, asking questions such as “What do you think of the rumors that McCain has a black love-child?” Unattributed flyers blossomed on car windshields in church parking lots. There was also buzz about McCain being “a little off,” perhaps as a result of spending all those years in a Hanoi POW camp.

With friends doing you favors like that you don’t need enemies do you? I ask that you follow up on your suggestion that Democrats may have used similar information in the future against McCain if it hadn’t been used by Bush by telling us when Democrats have ever been shown to use similar tactics in the past?

You’re complaining about what scum the Democrats are (IN ADVANCE) for the way they are going to treat McCain, but honestly, how can we do worse to him than your party already has? If you are so offended by these (MAYBE FUTURE) attacks, how about a post calling on all Republicans to at least play as clean as the Democrats already are? Cuz from where I’m sitting you guys are the mud-slingers, not us.

Posted by: Max at April 4, 2006 5:25 PM
Comment #138008

McCain has been in trouble with both sides of the isle enough to make him possible LEADER. As a vet I have respect for the man. I tend to the left in most views but could support him easily. I wish that my choices in 08 would be Bayh or McCain, any way that came out I think the country would win. It is a shame both will be eaten alive by their own parties in the primaries.

Posted by: Ted at April 4, 2006 5:42 PM
Comment #138028

Max

Unfortunately everybody slings mud. The parties themselves hold above the fray while their surrogates and 527s do the dirty deeds.

The worst example in 2000 was the NAACP commercial about a black man being dragged to his death by racists that implied that it was Bush’s fault for not supporting Texas hate crime legislation. During the recent elections I heard that Bush was sneaking drinks, taking illegal drugs and cheating on his wife.

The most persisent lies are that Dem surrogates keep telling about cheating in the last election. They sound pretty stupid, but they create doubt.

So, yes, I believe Democratic surrogates would bring up various things from his past. I think they still will, but since they have already been aired they will no longer have much power.

If you want to see some hatred, just google “hate Bush” and you will find plenty to look at.

YOu really can’t believe Dems are above such things, can you? Of course, what they say about Republicans is true, right?

Posted by: Jack at April 4, 2006 7:14 PM
Comment #138029

Max,

Here is one from the Democratic Party History Books:

The “Daisy Girl” ad, had a little girl picking flowers as an ominous voice counted down to zero—to a nuclear explosion and fireball in which she disappeared. Then, a voice: “These are the stakes: To make a world in which all of God’s children can live, or go into the dark. We must either love each other or we must die. Vote for President Johnson on November third. The stakes are too high for you to stay at home.”

Posted by: Rob at April 4, 2006 7:25 PM
Comment #138031

Jack
Here is something that I thought was cute.
At www.blackfive.net go to “Bush Was Right”.

Posted by: tomh at April 4, 2006 7:26 PM
Comment #138045

Rob:

Considering Republicans had little children hiding under their tables during this time, I thought the Daisy Ad was appropriate.

Posted by: Aldous at April 4, 2006 8:24 PM
Comment #138057

Theres jokers in every deck of cards.And as the gambler said you gota know when to holdem know when to foldem(then know when to run like hell) with mccain which way do you run dont ask him though

Posted by: allen stephens at April 4, 2006 9:00 PM
Comment #138066

hey there i remember those duck and cover drills we did them in 1964 when i was 9 at school the air raid siren would go off and under the desk and cover up! that was going to save your life! hey how about the nuclear fallout? and mom and dad and duke our english bulldog?

Posted by: RODNEY BROWN at April 4, 2006 10:43 PM
Comment #138133
The worst example in 2000 was the NAACP commercial about a black man being dragged to his death by racists that implied that it was Bush’s fault for not supporting Texas hate crime legislation.

Not exactly. In the ad, James Byrd’s daughter criticizes Bush for not supporting hate crimes legislation. She said, rather provocatively I admit, “it was like my father was killed all over again”.

But let’s suppose a liberal Democratic governor opposed adding new penalties for a particular crime. Wouldn’t a victim of that crime be an appropriate person to call him out? Wouldn’t it be appropriate, if a bit overdramatic, for the victim to say that they felt like they were being victimized all over again?

Also note that the ad was about actual legislation, not someone’s personal life or what they were doing decades ago before they were in politics.

Posted by: Woody Mena at April 5, 2006 8:48 AM
Comment #138145

McCain is an American traitor. He is NO conservative. What conservative wants to give our citizenship and country away for $2000 a person. Is that all it’s worth???

From an news article:
McCain got another laugh when he finished the speech and asked whether anybody had “questions, comments or insults.” One audience member obliged with a pointed question on his immigration plan.

McCain responded by saying immigrants were taking jobs nobody else wanted. He offered anybody in the crowd $50 an hour to pick lettuce in Arizona.

Shouts of protest rose from the crowd, with some accepting McCain’s job offer.

“I’ll take it!” one man shouted.

McCain insisted none of them would do such menial labor for a complete season. “You can’t do it, my friends.”
============================

What an arrogant asshole. It’s time he moved into the old-folks home and got out of politics. He’s offensive to Americans and an embarrassment.

Posted by: Silent Majority at April 5, 2006 9:47 AM
Comment #138175

The republicians might be thought of as idiots, both Bush and McCain. I would rather have either one of them other instead of that _itch

Posted by: brook at April 5, 2006 12:21 PM
Comment #138195

”- His wife is a lesbian and a drug addict…
- He suffered mental problems due to his POW time…
- He fathered a Black Baby thru infidelity…
- Referred to as the “Fag Candidate”…
- He is a traitor and a coward…”

Oddly, Aldous, those are the very reasons many moderate dems would vote for him.
He scares you all doesn’t he.
LOL

Posted by: kctim at April 5, 2006 1:42 PM
Comment #138205

The Democrats may be losing the battles by going so loony left with Howard Dean leading the way but I am afraid that they are going to ultimately win the war. The more to the left they go the more to the left republicans go in fear of looking like right wing radicals. We republicans in California elected Arnold with a smile on our faces because he had crossover appeal and look what we got a free spending, stem cell research supporting Rhino with a democrat chief of staff. Now we want elect McCain for the same reason even though he is in direct conflict with many republican principles soley because we think he can be elected. With this logic if Hilary ran as a republican we should support her too. Sure we are winning elections but at what cost?? I have learned my lesson, I would rather vote my conscience and lose then sell out my beliefs and win.

Posted by: John Craine at April 5, 2006 2:23 PM
Comment #138213

I don’t think McCain has a chance of getting the nomination as he has been seen as bitter against Bush and too cozy to the TV cameras almost as bad as Shummer. But should he win the nomination he this former Democrat would support him against Hillary who is an empty suit.

Posted by: Sam at April 5, 2006 2:38 PM
Comment #138225

kctim
Silly me, I jumped to conclusions. I thought Aldous was all mixed up. I really thought he was talking about K and K from MA.

Posted by: tomh at April 5, 2006 4:36 PM
Comment #138232

Sorry can’t resist. Must be Democrats waiting for someone else to solve their problem. Look at the director’s cut.

Posted by: Jack at April 5, 2006 5:09 PM
Comment #138234

i admit the price was high at fifty dollars a hour probly more to the story like lots of americans are lazy and would want twice as much as a immigrantt gets and they would not make it through a week of that kind of work kind of telling it like it was that was my take on it but most of yous dont like hearing truth anyways strange place today

Posted by: FA STEPHENS at April 5, 2006 6:15 PM
Comment #138257

John McCain is a political hack and sad to say one of my senators. He never found a camera he didn’t like, or a liberal cause he didn’t like. I am a true conservative, and I can’t in a good conscience vote this man into office. Infact I may go as far as saying that I would vote for Hillary over McCain, becasuse at least with Hillary I know what I’m getting-a liberal, but McCain is all over the place with his policies. Alright, I can’t vote for Hillary either to be honest.

Posted by: Bruce at April 5, 2006 8:04 PM
Comment #138292

>>Must be Democrats waiting for someone else to solve their problem

Posted by: Jack at April 5, 2006 05:09 PM

On another post, he says the Demos have too many ideas and they are all bad. I wish I could keep up with him…

Posted by: Marysdude at April 5, 2006 10:32 PM
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Mary

I just think it is funny. In fact, I may put it in another post.

BTW - you notice I didn’t use hysterical in the title of last week’s sources. Just for you I did this.

Posted by: Jack at April 5, 2006 11:56 PM
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I would have voted for him until he decided to conspire with Ted Kennedy to sell the American worker down the drain. Now he is a traitor and wants this country to kow-tow to Mexico,one of the most corrupt countries on the face of the earth. To hell with him and the horse(Ted Kennedy) or jackass he rode in on.

Posted by: Mary Lou at April 6, 2006 1:41 AM
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I am beginning to worry that it is deja vu all over again. Bill Clinton was elected largely in part that a segment of Republicans voted for third party candidate Ross Perot in protest of Bush the Elders raising taxes and mishandling of the Iraq war. Now it looks very possible that many Republicans (myself included) are looking toward third party candidates in response to G.W. jumping in bed with Mexico and Dubai. And who is standing by ready to benefit?? Hillary Clinton. This is a nightmare of which I have everynight but G.W. seems to be doing everything he can to pave the way for this to happen. I guess it is true what they say like father like son.

Posted by: John Craine at April 6, 2006 3:37 AM
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“McCain will send the slimers scurrying like cockroaches when the lights come on. The Bush team did him a big backhand favor in 2000 by revealing all the possible dark sides of the man.”
Is that YOUR way of saying that what Bush/Rove did was OK???!!! The GOP and the repugNUTS allowed a war hero to be smeared and slammed to promote the candidacy of a cokehead moron who couldn’t even get into the University of TEXAS, for crist sakes, on his own. Sorry….you don’t get me BACK on the McCain bandwagon because he has shown himself to be rather spineless when it came to his own defense of his character. That certainly would NOT bode well when it comes to defending OUR country.
His policys NOW show he is STILL a lickspittle of the GOP….unfortunatly like too many in that party already. Can’t ANY of the repugNUTS show some spine. Why must they blather on and on about the Dims and stand united in DISGRACE! Hasn’t ONE of them any GUTS!

Posted by: qatwoman at April 6, 2006 11:06 AM
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>>Can’t ANY of the repugNUTS show some spine. Why must they blather on and on about the Dims and stand united in DISGRACE! Hasn’t ONE of them any GUTS!

Posted by: qatwoman at April 6, 2006 11:06 AM

qat,

The answer to your question is…no.

Posted by: Marysdude at April 6, 2006 2:28 PM
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>>BTW - you notice I didn’t use hysterical in the title of last week’s sources. Just for you I did this.

Posted by: Jack at April 5, 2006 11:56 PM

Thanks…unless giving appreciation is hysterical…then, no thanks…unless not giving thanks is hysterical…then…

Posted by: Marysdude at April 6, 2006 2:54 PM
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bush bashing!!
here is the only question all you bush haters can not seem to answer,? would we as in the united states, be in this situation with the terrorist,and economy if we not had bill clinton , or rather hillary, in the white house for 8 years? look how long it took them to destroy our cia/military,economy. 8 years of clintons have done more damage to this great country than we can see even now. what about our economy? it is in full bloom now, the war in iraq, it was needed long befor bush came into office. why is it that nobody can seem to give bush the great approval that he deserves for what he has done to correct all the wrong doings the clintons have done!!!!

Posted by: steve at April 7, 2006 12:38 PM
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Yes Cindy, I was being sarcastic. When the religious right manages to overturn a woman’s right to choose, they will come after my right to use a condom to have sex with my wife. They want to inflict their beliefs on all. They say the Bible says a man should not spill his seed, and that birth control is immoral. Open the door a crack, and they will force their way in. We need to respect our rights to do as we choose as adults. Get the government out of my life. I am willing to pay taxes to have the services our government provides. I understand they do not come for free. Yet the republicans keep cutting taxes. How are we to pay for the services we all need? Schools, public safety, roads, health and welfare programs, social security and others. How is it the only taxes that do not get cut are FICA taxes. The taxes the working man pays. We give tax cuts to Paris Hilton, and the President says we need to make these tax cuts permanent. My daughters will have to pay more for loans to pay for this foolish debt.

Face it, all programs from the new deal are being undermined by the current administration. Liberal policies eventually find their way into our lives. Let’s embrace them, fund them and enjoy the btter country we can all have.

Posted by: Steve Rosen at April 7, 2006 8:04 PM
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One word will kill McCains chances. Amnesty. That is what he supported and that is what will be any supporters downfall.

Posted by: Keith at June 7, 2006 8:38 PM
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If it comes down to Hillary Clinton or John McCain
it would be a hard choice. McCain thinks no one will work for good wages in this country so he wants to import illegals and send their social security checks to Mexico when they retire while we wonder if we will ever see a check. Hillary wants to choose your Dr. for you and fine you if you don’t use her choice. She has done nothing in New York for the people, maybe that is the best answer these days. A do nothing presidnt can’t screw anything up.

Posted by: Sam Cherwinski at October 11, 2006 12:59 PM
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