My new 'Best Friend'

There are times in our lives when we hear a person say something and we wish they were our friend, or at least we could have friends ‘just like them’.There are also people that we wish could be cloned, or at least more of us could see the world as they do. Of course there are some people we wish would just shut up.

So many of us are just too uptight. We don't get things the way we want, or think they should be, and it seems like the end of the world.

Last night I was watching the Olympics. I love the Olympics- Winter & Summer. Always have.
I have NEVER cared what race someone is. I cheer for the U.S.A.
At times, many I can say, I cheer for people from other Nations. Sometimes they are from a Country that has never won a medal before. Many times it is the story of how they got there that draws me to them and makes me hope they get the Gold. There are many reasons to cheer for a particular athlete but race is not one.
Yesterday someone had to try and spoil the Winter Olympics by bringing race into it. Bryant Gumbel. Now you have to know that I have never really liked him. I recall when he started on the 'Today Show'. He can be such a self righteous snob. Who, or what, does he thank for the success he enjoys? Could it have had ANYTHING to do with Affirmative Action?
from: 'HometownAnnapolis.com'
"If you missed it, here's what he said:

"Finally, tonight, the Winter Games: Count me among those who don't like them and won't watch them … try not to be incredulous when someone attempts to link these games to those of the ancient Greeks, who never heard of skating or skiing. So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world's greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look like a GOP convention.""

Also from that article:
"Whether or not Gumbel realizes it, bias is the same whether it's someone white belittling someone black or someone black belittling someone white.

The fact that few black athletes choose to take part in the sports of the Winter Games is not a valid reason to criticize the white athletes who work extremely hard to excel at their sports.

It's a shame that someone has to live in a world in which a white kid isn't supposed to emulate Michael Jordan or a black youngster's favorite player shouldn't be Tom Brady. But that seems to be the way it is in Gumbel's world."

Another good opinion about this comes from: 'Blogcritics.com'

Here is part of it:
"The true meaning of racism has been lost in our culture. One off-color comment from a black man on international TV and people are to quick to call him a racist. However, the term racist and racism is being twisted to get a point of view across when actually the correct terminology should be prejudice, or pointing out the fact that there are so few people of African descent participating in the winter game.

Racism is not just using a racial slur. Racism is when a system of people use power and politics to oppress another group of people. When we look at racism we need to see: an oppression experienced by black and minority ethnic groups on the basis, predominantly, of their skin color, and of their culture and identity. Blacks no matter how hard we try, no matter how many chemical peels or nose jobs we can not remove the hue from our skin."

Following the Olympics 'The Tonight Show with Jay Leno' came on. This is where I saw My New 'Best Friend'. I hope some of you saw the show. It was great.

Samuel L. Jackson was a guest. Jay asked him about the Olympics. He says he loves the Winter Olympics. He seemed to know all the athletes names. He described a number of sports. He was talking about parts he missed that he needs to see. The discussion turned to the racial issue.

I'll have to paraphrase because I cannot find transcripts.

Jay asked him if he skis. Samuel was like 'Hell NO.' He says it's too cold for him to participate in winter sports. He told Jay - When he was dragged over here from his homeland he wasn't on skis. He was killing lions with a spear. The audience laughed. Jay told him he was glad Samuel said that because if he had he would have been- like- dead- now.
He said he is all U.S.A. It does not matter to him what race the athlete is.
Samuel was great. More people should be like him. More youngsters should choose a man like him to look up to.
He was honest and refreshing. He is far from uptight.

Posted by Dawn at February 18, 2006 2:21 PM
Comments
Comment #127075

It puzzles me that people complain about Political Correctness, yet come up with notions like this.

As a child, words and their distinctions were of constant interest. I carried a dictionary with me in my backpack. I learned at that age that words, languages, have histories and have contexts that affect meaning. There’s a difference between smiting somebody and striking them, between cutting and severing, and between memory among psychologists, and memory among computer programmers.

There is a difference between a white man calling a black man nigger, and a black person doing the same. A black person is addressing a brother, in both the colloquial and social sense, a person who is an equal. Historically, though, Whites come to the word through a history of enslavement and racial prejudice. A white person using that word, in view of that history may more easily be assumed to be using that term as a person trying to assert superiority and control.

For Sam Jackson, the notion of floating a stereotype as a joke is not so offensive, since the humor clearly is directed at himself and his own people, which he clearly identifies himself with. If Leno had made that joke, it would be justified to call into question his good taste and his common sense. Again, he comes of a culture that in the past used such stereotypes to demean and degrade blacks. Will things always be so touchy? It really depends. It might not be in a few generations. But it is not illegitimate to consider words coming from people differently based on different contexts and histories. What we say isn’t all of what we mean or can be seen to mean by our words.

There’s a difference between a racial double standard, and a historical difference in connotation.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at February 18, 2006 3:35 PM
Comment #127103

“There is a difference between a white man calling a black man nigger, and a black person doing the same.”
Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at February 18, 2006 03:35 PM
Personally, I don’t like the word.
Blacks don’t just use that word with each other as a friendly greeting either.
It makes no sense to me why it would be used that way. ‘Hey Bro’ isn’t good enough?
I don’t remember any other white person, or a black person for that matter, ever walking up to me and saying Hey Honky, or Hey White Trash.
We are not living in the same world as we were.
People like Bryant Gumbel and Jesse Jackson are just prolonging the misery and taking advantage of people.
I agree that alot of people need to lighten up.

Posted by: bugcrazy at February 18, 2006 4:26 PM
Comment #127112

Dawn,

Sam Jackson has always been a class act, and this just goes to prove it.

Another person that I would love to be friends with…or someone just like him…would be Denzel Washington.

Remember what he told the press when he won the Best Actor Oscar?

The press asked how he felt as a black man winning the award, and he replied, “Why can’t you just ask how it feels as a man to win the Oscar”?

And yes, I would vote for Condi, or Colin Powell (if either would reconsider their decisions not to run) or J.C. Watts…or even Barak Obama just as fast as I would vote AGAINST Charles Rangel or Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.

Why?

Because the Reverand Doctor Martin Luther King once said, “I have a dream that one day all men will be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

…and I believed him.

Posted by: Jim T at February 18, 2006 4:37 PM
Comment #127139

Planting the comment of “looks like a GOP convention” was UNCALLED FOR absolutely. The same way that Howard Dean said that the only way to get “this many black people into a republican dinner was to invite the wait staff” etc. THAT was WAY out of line, but was NEVER covered by the liberal MSM. First off, how is that not a racist comment from the leader of “the party of the people”. The fact that black people are only wait staff? That would have made me irate. As a matter of fact, as a white man, it does make me irate. However, going back to Gumbel’s comment, honestly the only thing that’s really a story here is putting politics in his comment. The fact that the majority of the athletes at the summer olympics are black (at least from the U.S.) seems to elude him. Is this a “segregation” of sorts? I don’t think so. Going back to Dusty’s comments a few years ago (paraphrasing here) “blacks and minorities (ie mostly referring to latinos) play better in the heat…they’re ‘bred’ that way.” I don’t know if they’re “BRED” that way, but honestly, in the “evolutionary scheme of things” Africans and people who live closer to the equator have darker pigmented skin. It helps them deal with the heat, and people who live nearer to the poles have lighter pigmented skins…helps them to deal with the cold better. It’s all about the natural development of humans on earth. Therefore, the fact that the majority of athletes in the winter olympics are predominantly white, by evolutionary development (by the way I believe mostly in creation followed by intelligent design), makes sense.

The only other thing that I think people are getting upset about is his phrase “So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world’s greatest athletes” is that he’s implying that because there are no blacks in the winter olympics that they can’t POSSIBLY be the best athletes. Didn’t Jimmy the Greek say something similar about players in the NBA or something? This I have a problem with too. It’s a horrible double standard of either a black commentator being able to say whatever they want to enflame people’s senses, and the fact that a Dem/lib can say anything demeaning Republicans/conservatives or even talking about blacks, but if anything is said by a Republican (can you say Trent Lott!) they are set up to be burned at the stake!! Terrible! Until there’s a single standard for everyone(!!!!), there will not be equality. Everyone wants equality, but it seems the minority (in congress or in race) can say anything to “boost their ego” or whatever.

Samuel L. has always been a straight talker…whether it’s “I’m gonna put my boot in your…” or if it’s “do I ski…hell no, it’s too cold for me”. I tell you what it was 2 for a high here yesterday. The winter Olympics isn’t for me b/c I can’t ski, skate, or curl, but then again if I was a winter athlete, I’d want to have some respect for how hard I work, no matter what!

Posted by: Robert at February 18, 2006 5:45 PM
Comment #127158

It was just a few weeks ago that I saw an Oprah show with the cast from “Crash.” The conversation included racism and Oprah plainly said that the “N” word should be removed from anyone’s vocabulary, regardless of the race. She felt that a word as vulgar as that served no useful purpose, regardless of the circumstances and the people using it.

As long as we allow double standards and give or take advantages to anyone based on the color of their skin, there will always be racism. We really need to get to “judging a man by the content of his character” as our one and only standard.

Posted by: RSteele at February 18, 2006 6:30 PM
Comment #127179

Gumbel’s remarks were over the top. NBC could set a new and wonderful standard by firing him.

And no! That’s not a violation of free speech, I’m not saying throw him in jail. I’m just saying fire him like Jimmy the Greek got fired.

It’s not just whites and blacks anymore. Someone or some high profile company like NBC needs to make a hallmark move remembered for centuries to come: A universal statement about ALL prejudicial comments - They will not be tolerated.

Fire Gumbel.

Posted by: Ken Cooper at February 18, 2006 7:31 PM
Comment #127186

Stephen,

“For Sam Jackson, the notion of floating a stereotype as a joke is not so offensive, since the humor clearly is directed at himself and his own people, which he clearly identifies himself with. If Leno had made that joke, it would be justified to call into question his good taste and his common sense.”

When the day comes that Jay can say what Samuel did and everyone laughs instead of gasping - the world will be a better place.

When the day comes that Bryant feels he doesn’t need to make such comments - the world will be a better place.

Things like this do need to be discussed. How else would you or anyone else expect these issues to be resolved?

A friend of mine joked that ‘All you white people look alike anyway.’ At first it shocked me. Then I told her she was funny as I rolled my eyes. It didn’t become a wedge issue between us. That was years ago and we never stopped being friends.
We make jokes about how she has a grandaughter who we say dances like a white girl.
Friends can say those things to each other.
None of the comments are meant to hurt and they don’t.
Everyone is different. Being able to laugh at ourselves is a good thing.

Posted by: dawn at February 18, 2006 7:54 PM
Comment #127193

Hooray, let’s aplaud Samuel L. for making it cool to make fun of the black man! We’ve been kept locked up in the basement of good manners, where we can’t reasonably make fun of them being spearchuckers without someone having the bad taste too poopoo us. And we can’t celebrate the winter olympics for being wonderfully monochromatic (no one ever says they’re dreaming of a black Christman, do they?) without someone trying to make us feel like it’s wrong to like our sports a little whitewashed, for once.

Hooray for Samuel! Let’s clone him and have a whole army of him, so we can drown out those silly Gumbels!

Posted by: Michelle at February 18, 2006 8:27 PM
Comment #127211

Okay Dawn,

First off it’s a joke, the Winter Games have very few blacks, it’s well known, everybody knows that. Hence the humorous musings of The Jamaican Bobsled Team, remember them? Now I think the republicans took more offence because it mentioned the GOP as mostly white—WHICH IT IS! (If you don’t see that, please re-adjust your contact lenses or go see an opthamologist immediately).

The GOP is mostly white—the Winter Olypics are mostly white—curling is stupid. See the equasion?

Relax and pull the ruffled panties out of thine buttcrack. It was a joke—yes humor—causes one to potentially chuckle so relax people.

When Rush Limabaugh made his comment about Donovan McNabb it was on the basis that he was a quarterback based on some affirmative action tat is why he was removed and Donovan handled it all with grace and class. This is different, there was no insinuation that there was some white affirmative action—just that the GOP is very much a white people’s political party predominantly because it is for and of the wealthy with a bevvy of support amongst prairie dwellers, rabid racists, angry white folks, people with misguided patriotism and ofcourse Religious zealots who pretend they dislike judicial activism when they call for it all the time. So lighten up it was just a joke.

Posted by: Translator at February 18, 2006 9:37 PM
Comment #127220

Yes when us whites took them from their native lands to enslave them on our agrarian plantations and put them through nearly 400 years of subjegation, lynchings, whippings, burnings, dismemberments, abuse, then Jim Crow, humiliation though ad art and public executions by angry rabble…Ummm Dawn why again should all American kids look up to some doofus revising American history to appease white people’s phony take on history?

Posted by: Translator at February 18, 2006 10:06 PM
Comment #127221

Me relax?

Posted by: dawn at February 18, 2006 10:06 PM
Comment #127222

Thanks Translator. You have proved my point.

Posted by: dawn at February 18, 2006 10:07 PM
Comment #127230

American Indian: We were hunter gatherers when white people killed us in droves ran us off our lands and we walked to an unknown destination in kneehigh snowdrifts as our children and elderly died of disease—Nawt gosh darn skiers!!! jeez louise too cold, brrrrr.

Other commentator: Right you are Kent.

Posted by: Translator at February 18, 2006 10:26 PM
Comment #127238

Jim T,

I’m a democrat and I wouldn’t even vote for Barak Obama (son of a goat farmer), wow you totally surpassed me in liberalism. Personally I think he lives in Hillary’s hindquarters. And JZ Watts? The man so stupid as to call for American oil drilling themn bringing it to market which would make it 7 bucks a gallon??? We have the implausibilty of Geoerge W. Bush isn’t that enough?

Posted by: Translator at February 18, 2006 10:47 PM
Comment #127249

Translator, Your comments just keep the cycle of racism going. People like you and Jesse Jackson you are the real racism in this country. If a black person is the best at his sport he would be in the games. Bottom line. Fire Gumble,and get ride of Jesse Jackson and Rev.Al.

Posted by: Philipz at February 19, 2006 12:01 AM
Comment #127262

I was really enjoying reading this thread of
posts until I got to “translator”…or is it
transhater? I thought it was the job of a
translator to accurately communicate. Maybe
“spellcheck” or a good English course would help.

Posted by: Dale G. at February 19, 2006 12:47 AM
Comment #127296

sorry translator, but you made me a translator hater! r brown.

Posted by: r brown at February 19, 2006 3:28 AM
Comment #127303

Philpz! why fire Gumbel??? He made a joke that offended those people who have the majority of both houses of congress, the majority of the supreme court, the executive branch—why can’t you people take a little ribbing? Why this victim mentality? You aren’t like Islam are you? Someone draws a cartoon and you call for their heads? It was a joke at the GOP’s expense, finally, not a big deal.

Transhater, great name, love it!

You liked this post when it called for Bryant to be fired and run out of broadcasting and supported Sam L.Jackson with his stupid smoothed over answer to Jay Leno about killing lions and then called him a hero for it. He’s one of those Hollywood types you rightwingers despise (actually I’ve been studying Eric Simonson’s tactics and they work on the other foot too). BTW thanks Eric. Now I’m thinking about saying you are all in league with either Fox News or the Hollywood elite when they give you the sophmoric answers you like to hear. Hmm which way should I go?

Posted by: Trans-Hater at February 19, 2006 4:09 AM
Comment #127308

Dale G,

I’ve seen typos on this site that would give a dislexic a nosebleed. I spew the antithesis of the conversation through a good deal of baiting and it’s my spelling, hmm what have I said that garners such mighty resistance as this?

The point is Gumbel’s remarks were harmless and the GOP is acting like Islamic Freedom fighters when they happen to butt up a joke. Also Samel L Jackson is an actor and I’d rather have kids look up to something more substantive that a screen actor. (See change positions: that’s pure Rahdigly stuff too)

Posted by: Trans-hater at February 19, 2006 4:29 AM
Comment #127375

You see, Trans-Hater, this is exactly why I can’t be a Democrat.

The point is Gumbel’s remarks were harmless and the GOP is acting like Islamic Freedom fighters when they happen to butt up a joke.

This was a joke? Would it be a joke if I were to say that in the summer olympics, the 100 meter race looked like a field meeting of the NAACP? Would that be a joke?

No.

It’s simply perpetuation of racial bulls**t. It doesn’t matter if it’s a white man dissing a black man or a black man dumping on a white man. It’s just…simply…WRONG.

I saw the Bryant Gumbel “Real Sports” show that Dawn was talking about. It was a good show until Gumbel opened his mouth at the very end of the show. If the racial crap that he spewed was a joke, then he needs to go back to school and take “Joke Telling 101”, because (in MHO) he came off as a moronic jerk with a giant bigoted chip on his shoulder.

Posted by: Jim T at February 19, 2006 9:59 AM
Comment #127442

Trans-hater,

glad you like the new moniker. I’m a little
concerned that you wear it like a badge of honor.
I think that speaks more to your state of mind
than to your intellect though. It has me wondering
though just who has a larger chip on their
shoulder. You or B. Gumbel.

If Gumbel ( who’s a grandiose moron ) and Charles
Barkley make a racist comment, apparently it’s
okay because it’s a joke because they’re black!?!
Just as it’s okay for blacks to use the “n”-word?
Well the goddess of daytime TV doesn’t think so.
Oprah thinks it’s ALWAYS wrong for ANYONE to use that racist epithet.

If Rush Limbaugh or Bob Costas said that it was
strange to see a white on a basketball court,
they’d be hung out to dry for making a joke or
speaking the truth. If blacks want the equality
that they deserve, then they should learn that
what they say shouldn’t be given immunity, from the same unwritten laws of double standards and
hypocrisy that the rest of us live with.

To compare the reaction that some Republicans
have had over Gumbel’s “joke”, to the reaction
that SOME Muslims have had over a derogatory
cartoon, is perhaps one of the most ridiculous
things I’ve ever heard. Last I’ve heard Chaney
hasn’t beheaded Gumbel nor has his house been
burned down. Maybe you should change your name
to Hyperbole Bomb Thrower.

Posted by: Dale G. at February 19, 2006 1:41 PM
Comment #127479

Translator, you said “(If you don’t see that, please re-adjust your contact lenses or go see an opthamologist immediately).”

I just have one comment for you-when you learn to SPELL ‘ophthamologist’ -and many of the other words you spelled incorrectly-then perhaps the rest of us might actually consider what you have to say. (then again…nah…)

Until then, you might want to try removing thine head from “thine buttcrack”.

Posted by: Tanya at February 19, 2006 3:31 PM
Comment #127481

Jim T wrote “Because the Reverand Doctor Martin Luther King once said, “I have a dream that one day all men will be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

…and I believed him.”

THANK YOU and AMEN! I could not have worded that better myself-too bad SOME people are too ignorant to know what that even means…

Posted by: Tanya at February 19, 2006 3:35 PM
Comment #127488

Dawn said: “Of course there are some people we wish would just shut up.”

Ironic how this relates now, isn’t it? ;-)

Excellent post Dawn!!..now I must go see my ‘ophthamologist’ because my eyes hurt from such horrid ‘translation’….

Posted by: Tanya at February 19, 2006 3:45 PM
Comment #127492

I have never cared for Bryant Gasball (or I mean Gumbel). To me he’s to rapped up in his own self importants. Not to mention his selfrightious attitude. And he never was all that great.
But I’m not offended by his off color remarks either. There are folks that you just have to take with a grain of salt and he’s one of them.
What folks like him don’t understand is that if more Blacks tried out for the Winter Olympics, ther just might be more Blacks in them. The reason there’s more in the Summer Olympics is because more try out for them. To me it’s just a matter that Blacks seem to prefer to participate in the Summer Games than the Winter. Either way they have to beat out some pretty stiff competion to get in to the games. And if someone is that good, they deserve a spot on the team.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 19, 2006 4:03 PM
Comment #127529

Right Ron! Last I knew the color of one’s skin didn’t cause wind shear! People need to be based on their ability, not their color, I don’t care if we’re talking Olympics or 3rd grade soccer.

Posted by: Tanya at February 19, 2006 6:17 PM
Comment #127547

Just making the assumption or assertion that a black man you don’t like has acheived what he has acheived as a result of affirmative action…even if the assumption is true,

…is itself completely racist.

You didn’t like the political shot he took, so you respond in a way that is unnacceptable. I for one would like to see the ‘attack the message, not the messenger’ rule extended to the people whose comments we adress on these blogs.

RGF

Posted by: RGF at February 19, 2006 8:20 PM
Comment #127574

Ken,

I agree about firing Bryant Gumbel! Hell didn’t they learn their lesson back in his Today Show days? It’s amazing how much different he and Greg are! If Jimmy the Greek was so out of line that he deserved reprimand, then why the hell doesn’t BG?

And by the way, I really admire your ability to post how you feel and so eloquently at that! I’m a very outspoken person, but for as long as I’ve been just sitting back and watching these posts go on and on, I’m just now starting to make my little comments here and there. I guess I don’t really like to ruffle feathers, but frankly, I’m tired of MY feathers being ruffled and just sitting idly by not defending my beliefs as others are. So thank you-because of you and so many of the others here on R&C, I’m finally starting to come out of my shell…. =)

Posted by: Tanya at February 19, 2006 9:56 PM
Comment #127575

rgf just would like more clarification on your last blog, please help me. now i dont belive in the statement once forgiving always forgiving, so what your saying is those folks dont have a right to critique someone if there black, i dont agree with the psychology assessment some of the folks have giving translator, and being from a group, who was also held in bondage for close to 5750 years of my history,i feel the pain of intolerance. but i have made many mistakes in my life, and dont feel bad if someone critiques me. just if you could provide some more clarification thank you, rodney brown.

Posted by: r brown at February 19, 2006 9:58 PM
Comment #127582

Tanya
Welcome to Watchblog. This is the only political site I know where everyone’s opinion is welcomed.
We may not always agree with each other, but I’m looking forward to debating those areas with you.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 19, 2006 10:29 PM
Comment #127641

tanya just a little info for you, a person would go to a optometrist for contact lens and glasses,not a ophthalmologist, the ophthalmologist is a md who would be glad to preform eye surgery for a detached retina, or a cornea transplant or macular degeneration. a optometrist can prescribe a rx for glasses for your myopia= nearsighted or hyperopia= farsighted or astigmitisim.= oval cornea. with a rx for example i would prescribe for you if you were nearsighted od= oculis dexter right eye a minus lens and for your os =oculis sinister= left eye a minus lens. if both eyes were nearsighted that would be ou oculis universal, or if you were astigmatic i would prescribe a toric lens to correct the curve in your cornea, hope this was useful to you, rodney brown.optician abo state of california.

Posted by: rod brown at February 20, 2006 12:54 AM
Comment #127669

tanya. wow i went over to the other blog site, and you ripped me a new one,when you stated something about crawling out of a shell i think a tyrannosaurus rex came out, i feel much better with your diagnosis you gave me.may i ask is there a md after your name. also when did you earn your psychology major? because you sure in the heck dont know anything about ms. yes your good on a computer and having kids and you have a quick tongue.but being in the health care profession for many years now,and living with ms for fifteen years now, and living inside this skin of mine i think i am more qualified to talk about ms. and you are more qualified to talk about child birth than i am. and your mean spirted, remarks, about me using ms for a excuse for poor grammer is just cold hearted and mean. i help people every day who cant see a hand in front of there face,and every day i enjoy what i do! in restoring there vision. rodney brown optician abo,ctl,state of california

Posted by: rod brown at February 20, 2006 3:01 AM
Comment #127679

Well, Dr. Brown: you sure told me! I was quoting another post by Translator and merely correcting his incorrect spelling of the word. Being in the medical field myself, I’m well aware of the difference between an optometrist and an ophthamologist-it wasn’t me that made the initial comment.

Translator said “(If you don’t see that, please re-adjust your contact lenses or go see an opthamologist immediately).”

Posted by: Tanya at February 20, 2006 3:45 AM
Comment #127683

In regards to your reply to my post about using your disease to explain your incorrect grammar, it was YOU that implied that was the cause, not I. I didn’t say anything mean or heartless, I merely stated that if you have bad grammatical skills, then you have bad grammatical skills-you shouldn’t “blame” it on the fact that you have MS. As far as MY medical background, you have not a clue what my “title” is, I help save lives every day and love what I do! No, I’m not a DOCTOR, I’m a PARAMEDIC-I have a health history thicker than most of my elderly patients and have dealt with MS for 31 years! So excuse me that I’m not “qualified” to discuss anything more than giving birth!

As far as the other post, I didn’t “jump you”, YOU were the one jumping someone else that didn’t even say anything deserving-I simply stated that maybe you should calm down before you respond to a post and blow it out of proportion. Here again, you’ve proven that point!

Thanks for such a warm welcome-it’s nice to know that MY differing opinion is far inferior to yours….NOW everyone can see why I have read for weeks without typing a word-until I saw YOU jumping someone else and I felt compelled to back that person up.

Tanya, Emergency Medical Technician-Paramedic, State of Michigan

Posted by: Tanya at February 20, 2006 3:58 AM
Comment #127684

One last comment for you R Brown: My Masters Degree in Psychology will be complete soon-thanks for noticing!

Posted by: Tanya at February 20, 2006 4:02 AM
Comment #127691

JIM T,

Acually If you said that the first 416 rows of the MTV music awards looked like an NAACP meeting it would be funnier. I think it’s a question of who political correctness serves and secondly the NAACP is much like the Southern poverty Law Center and is really not a political party. See now everyone already “gets” that the winter games are predominantly white as it accepted and occasionally made fun of—now the Republican party extremely caucazoidal, also in some ways moreso than Norway or The aisle of Man currently. The republicans are also very much hated throughout much of the world upping the antie of them being the butt of the joke as an international tiding.

South America hates Republicans, Africa hates Republicans, Europe hates Republicans, Middle Easterners hate Republicans, Muslim Asia hates Republicans now here’s why you become the butt of the joke—very few people like Republicans—at all.

Now I’ll outline it:

A)Everybody knows The Winter Olympics are predominantly white and Asian.

B)Republicans are hated the world over as people all over hate the party’s imperialism. (the Japanese like you—go figure, but they also eat kelp so take it or leave it)

C)Some of those Countries have been struck by terror attacks for supporting George W Bush in this war.

D) Bush is a disaster to the world for this war in Iraq, a complete pariah and a bane in most people views.

E)If this joke came from a white person it would be laughable—Gumbel is whiter than most white people anyway so he had a right to say it—thus making it quite funny when he said it.

Most ‘curlers’ are lesbians.

Posted by: Translator at February 20, 2006 4:53 AM
Comment #127695

Heeeey Tawnyaaaaa!!!

Rawwwwn Brown just said “self importants” instead of “self-importance” and ya’ know what? SFW because I got the point. wait until Sicilian Eagle shows up the man could literally typo the letter “I”.

Posted by: Translator at February 20, 2006 5:07 AM
Comment #127698

Ron said: “Tanya Welcome to Watchblog. This is the only political site I know where everyone’s opinion is welcomed. We may not always agree with each other, but I’m looking forward to debating those areas with you.”

Thank you for the welcome! =) I think the world would be a boring place if everyone agreed on everything! I have investigated other sites and found this one to be the best matched for what I was looking for. Of course I see that being the “newbie” and contributing my own 2 cents on some of these topics makes me the black sheep…but hey, at least I took the heat off some of the others for awhile, eh? LOL I’m looking forward to debating with you as well-but rest assured, I won’t give any further constructive criticism in regards to spelling/grammar errors *wink, wink*. =)

Posted by: Tanya at February 20, 2006 5:28 AM
Comment #127699

Dale G,

You are getting bent out of shape about nothing and calling for something drastic such as an end to a anchor personality’s career. Islam is angry about ‘a nothing’ that goes back 1400 years in Islamic written law and their prescription is something drastic also as is the ending of one’s entire career.

There are gradations to things, what Gumbel said was true and observable and he made good light of it as it wasn’t terribly offensive to anyone but the GOP. It was not funny to republicans and WAS NOT ABOUT WHITES (we know the winter games are white, we got that twenty years ago) the punch line specifically included the initials “GOP” as also a juxtaposing caucasian institution such as are the Winter Games.

Plus if someone used the term NAACP it’s not as international as the party that is ruining South and Central America with exploitation (also destroyed haitis industries through globalism) as well as making things more extremist especially in the mideast. Let’s say you are known.

Posted by: Translator at February 20, 2006 5:36 AM
Comment #127811

Tanya
The one thing you’ll find out is I’m the worlds worst speller. If I don’t sit with a dictionary opened on the desk, who knows what this silly computer will misspell. ha!
As far as grammer is concerned she died when I was a kid. Ha! I knda have a tendacy to write the way I talk. I may not be proper but I manage to get the point across.
Anyway heres to locking hornswith you.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 20, 2006 1:27 PM
Comment #127839

tanya, grats, on the degree. put it to good use, i think, i get more personal satisfaction in helping people than the monetary gains, i have the privilege to go to africa three times a year.to cure a child of wet cell glaucoma, or a simple cataract. i make about 300 pairs of glasses, just to see the look on there faces! some of these poor people never seen the trees or grass, or even there own mothers or fathers. that is worth a million dollars for me.i will always look out for the little guy, just stop to think about black people! just try to imagine what it would be like to be in there place,it is not even today. thirty years does not take away three hundred years of pain. i can relate, half of my moms family never made it out of holland, and you go on, but you never forget! hey i am off today and it is beautiful out! take care, rodney brown

Posted by: rodney brown at February 20, 2006 2:20 PM
Comment #127847

Ron,

I have to say you’re one of the few to treat me as a human since I began speaking (typing) on any of the threads here! I thank you kindly for that! See, I’m really NOT the bitch that some would like to believe I am. And guess what? I make spelling errors myself! (ya probably wouldn’t have guessed that tho, would ya? *wink*)

Perhaps I came across wrong (that DOES have a tendency to happen when things are said in type, rather than verbalized) when I made the comment that I did to r….but the fact that I DO have an extensive medical history coupled with the fact that I have NEVER let it hold me back from anything nor use it as an excuse, reason, justification, whatever the hell one wants to call it, is why I found his comment about his spelling being in direct correlation of his disease, so offensive. For stating my opinion, am I sorry? No. For upsetting people, surely I am-I don’t live my life to upset others. Will I ever change my stance on it? Not bloody likely-that would equate to switching to the left for me (LOL). What bothers me most of all is that I truly WAS trying to be sincere and respectful in my statement, and I can honestly say I have only one enemy in my life (that would be my ex-now who cant relate to THAT?) yet now, in this cyber-world, I’m some cruel and heartless individual who’s only now on the 2nd day of posting!

I look forward to “locking horns” with you as well, and rest assured, I shant pick on your spelling in the process! *grins*
Tanya

Posted by: Tanya at February 20, 2006 2:35 PM
Comment #127852

Rodney,

“just stop to think about black people! just try to imagine what it would be like to be in there place,it is not even today. thirty years does not take away three hundred years of pain.”

WHOA right there! I never said ONE thing against “black people” so where the hell did you pull that one out of? What makes you so sure I’m not black? I have been trying for about the last 14 hours now to smooth things over with you, but this comment, sir, I find TRULY OFFENSIVE. This makes my reference to your spelling microscopic in comparison!

I commend what you do, I have never even HINTED otherwise. I have not once made reference to your race, creed, gender, religion, sexual preference, etc, so why is it necessary for you to personally attack what may, or may not, be MY race? Wasn’t your comment about my birthing children being the only thing I could educate you about enough, but now you have to propose racism?

It’s obvious you don’t abide by the aforereferenced debate the message not the messenger rule, because if anyone is “out of line” here now fella, it’s you!

I’m done with this continuous bash session with you-every time I try to make it CLEAR that my intentions were, in fact, meant to be sincere, you find some other way to personally degrade me. I’m not sorry for my sex, my ability to birth children, the fact that I (most of the time) can spell, or my race, and no matter how many times you spout off at me you will not change that. The one thing for which I AM sorry, is that I actually had every intent after responding to Ron’s post just a little bit ago of attempting to make amends with you so that we could move on past this horseshit….

Good grief!!

Tanya

Posted by: Tanya at February 20, 2006 2:48 PM
Comment #127894

Enough with the martyr complexes. That is a kind of oppresive thinking as well.

ALL of us come from various different heritages which have ALL experienced both being the oppressor and the oppressed. NO EXCEPTIONS. In Ancient times, the golden era of Jewish Isreal was founded on the slave state of King Soloman. In the modern times, the ashkenazi state of Isreal has employed trully reprehensible practices against the Palestinians. Not that the Palestinians are without blame, themselves. So being Jewish does not exempt you from the oppressor/oppressed equation.

What I was pointing out is simply this:

IF YOU NOTICE A SUCCESSFUL BLACK MAN, AND YOU AUTOMATICALLY ASSERT THAT HIS SUCCESS IS DUE TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, THAT IS RACISM.

RGF

Posted by: RGF at February 20, 2006 4:28 PM
Comment #127903

Tanya,

I think Rod was trying to relate to what it must feel like to be black. The 300 years or so of oppression cannot be erased by the last 30 - 40 years. I do not think he was talking about you, but rather the people in Africa that he helps. Maybe I misread what he said, but I am pretty sure he meant no offense.

Posted by: SWMichiganMan at February 20, 2006 4:54 PM
Comment #127952

rodney brown
Did you personally suffer that 300 years of pain?
One of the most tiring things I’ve ever delt with is the constant whining from those who think that they are the ones that have suffered from the past. And want to keep bringing it up like they’re the victims of it tha past themselves. Maybe their ancestors where, but they aint.
What happened in the past is dead and gone. And it was a sad time in the history of this country.
Insted of whinning why not try to better yourself? If you try that you’ll find that more folks will respect you.
The only thing owed you in this life is the respect due you as a person.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 20, 2006 7:01 PM
Comment #127954

IF YOU NOTICE A SUCCESSFUL BLACK MAN, AND YOU AUTOMATICALLY ASSERT THAT HIS SUCCESS IS DUE TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, THAT IS RACISM.

RGF


Posted by: RGF at February 20, 2006 04:28 PM

How right you are. I have a Black brother-in-law who is sucessfull. I can tell you that he busted his butt to get where he is. If you where to ask hom about affirmative action he’d tell you real quick that the only thing it accomplishes is to perpetuate rasism.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 20, 2006 7:10 PM
Comment #127975

to sw michiganman well put.thank you,i would like to hear from grand funk railroad.mark, don and mel. remember any of there songs,

Posted by: rodney brown at February 20, 2006 7:45 PM
Comment #127985

rgf. probably so, you know how those kings were! i recall my mom saying we were from the tribe of reuben, and were goat herders by the dead sea. rodney brown.

Posted by: rodney brown at February 20, 2006 8:22 PM
Comment #128046

Translator,

I’m going to take it into account that your last
post was at 5:AM for why you kind of rambled
nonsensically. In other words, you were making
less sense, THAN USUAL! First, I never said
Gumball should be fired. I could care less.
Second, I was never THAT “bent out of shape”
about WHAT he said. I realize that he’s a vacuous
twit with a superiority complex and could care less what dribbles out of his mouth. The double
standard is what irritates me.

Tanya,

welcome to WatchBlog. You’re a breath of fresh
air. I’m just sorry you & r brown kind of got
off on the wrong foot. You both seem like very
likable people. I just wish I wasn’t so confused
trying to keep r/Rodney & Ron Brown straight. ;-)

Posted by: Dale G. at February 20, 2006 11:47 PM
Comment #128064

hey dale i started using r brown then i saw this fella ron brown, so from now on i will go by rodney, just think off the other rodney, you know the one who would say hey ill tell ya i dont get any respect. take care rodney brown.

Posted by: rodney brown at February 21, 2006 12:45 AM
Comment #128116

Dale G,

What makes you say I “usually” make sense???

Rodney Brown,

The shift button is on either side of the keys with the word “Shift” on it. Also um if you cure ‘cataracts’ please tell Tanya what that profession is called when one does complex eye surgery-thanx.

Posted by: translator at February 21, 2006 6:00 AM
Comment #128204

Welcome to Watchblog Rodney. Hope to lockhorns with you sometime in the future.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 21, 2006 12:10 PM
Comment #128232

thanks ron, a very good day to you, translator, ok for your eye surgery you might consider looking up your nearest doctor of optometry.OD. tell them rodney brown. optician abo, ctl. sent you. and good luck to you! rodney brown

Posted by: rodney brown at February 21, 2006 2:27 PM
Comment #128245

translator, the results of your last eye refraction, od +15.00-12.00 axis 180 add +5.00. on the left os +22.00-12.50 axis 90 add +6.50. slab off ou. and 8 prism diopters base down ou. type of lens, executive trifocal. material, cr 39 i would also tint your glasses a no 5 red. the frame, we would go with a triple thick zyl in the color green. rodney brown abo ctl,

Posted by: rodney brown at February 21, 2006 3:05 PM
Comment #128422

swmich said: “I think Rod was trying to relate to what it must feel like to be black. The 300 years or so of oppression cannot be erased by the last 30 - 40 years. I do not think he was talking about you, but rather the people in Africa that he helps. Maybe I misread what he said, but I am pretty sure he meant no offense.”

Thanks from trying to be mediator-I think ole Rodney and I shall call a truce soon (at least I hope so!). So, Just how “sw” mich. are you? I’m in Stanwood. =)

Tanya

Posted by: Tanya at February 22, 2006 1:43 AM
Comment #128519

So, Just how “sw” mich. are you? I’m in Stanwood. =)

Tanya


Posted by: Tanya at February 22, 2006 01:43 AM

Aw, Just when I was starting to like you, I find out your a yankee. HA!

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 22, 2006 12:25 PM
Comment #129313

Ron: Aw, Just when I was starting to like you, I find out your a yankee. HA!

Posted by Ron Brown at February 22, 2006 12:25 PM

I don’t necessarily consider myself a yankee, actually, I’m more of a city girl turned redneck LOL I’m very flattered that you were, at least, STARTING to like me, heh! =)

Posted by: Tanya at February 24, 2006 10:51 PM
Comment #129391

Tanya
Don’t worry, I don’t really care where someone is from. We are ALL Americans regardless of where in this great country we live. I just like to pick on yankees a bit. I live grew up in and live in South Georgia. But my daddy was born and grew up in Illinois. I reckon that makes me a halfbreed as my Momma grew up here in Georgia.
BTW, If I didn’t lke and respect you, I wouldn’t respond to your post.

Posted by: Ron Brown at February 25, 2006 1:51 AM
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