The Call Girl Principle

That is what negotiators call it. The “call girl principle” states that the perceived value of a service declines precipitously after that service has been performed. AND in the case of a particularly urgent need, the recipient may come to disparage the service and resent or even despise the provider. That is why plumbers always negotiate their fees before they fix your overflowing toilets. That is why salespeople try to get you to define the parameters of what you will find acceptable.

Let me be a salesman, selling the solution to your problem on 9/12/2001. The Towers have collapsed. The Pentagon is still burning. The market is dropping like a stone. It looks like our prosperity is gone for at least a generation. Everyone expects that soon, maybe not today or tomorrow - but soon - the terrorist will hit other targets in the U.S. Our wonderful way of life is over. You can get an idea about how fortunate you are by imagining that you lost it all. How much would you pay to get it back?

Okay, here's the deal. It is September 12, 2001. I am telling you about the future. I tell you that four years from today there will have been no more major attacks on U.S. soil. On the other hand, we have not caught Osama bin Laden and some of our soldier have humiliated dozens of suspected terrorist prisoners during and after military action. But wait. We have defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan and significantly degraded Al Qaeda.

On the other hand, One of Osama's lieutenants - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - went to Iraq when he was driven out of Afghanistan and set up shop there and there. Hundreds of other foreign fighters have joined him. We invaded Iraq soon after and are currently in an ongoing conflict with about 20,000 insurgents. But on the plus side, we have eliminated our old nemesis Saddam Hussein. Does anybody want him back?

The total number of U.S. casualties in both Iraq and Afghanistan over four years is less than we lost in a couple of minutes on 9/11. So we got rid of two horrible regimes at the costs mentioned above. What about the economy? How will that be doing in four years?

Believe it or not, the economy so completely recovered from 9/11 that most people forgot that these events ever threatened our prosperity. Democrats refused to even consider it when discussing the challenges of the economy during the last election. It took about a year before the economy began to grow again, but today it is cumulatively about 15% larger than it was the day before the attacks.

The stock market also recovered. It is not quite as high as during the highest point when the bubble started to deflatge at the end of the Clinton Administration, but if you had followed a simple diversified buy and hold strategy over the last ten years, you are solidly in the black. And if you bought a basket of stocks on September 12th, you made a pile of money. Unemployment is hovering around 5%, very low by the standards of the last half century.

So these are the parameters of success.

If I told you this story on September 12th, would you believe me or would you think I was promising too rosy a scenario? Up to you. If you think you can find a better deal . . .

Posted by Jack at August 31, 2005 9:32 PM
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Comment #76769

Jack,

I would have been more suprised if we hadn’t recovered. We Americans are, for the most part, pretty resiliant.
Now if you had told me that we would give up our personal freedoms, as in the patriot act, I would have said you were out of your mind.

Oh, and BTW, the airlines, which weren’t in the best of shape before Sept. 11th, still pretty much in the toilet (clever plumbing reference).

Posted by: Rocky at August 31, 2005 10:06 PM
Comment #76776

Aside from the fact set being full of errors, it is an interesting argument.

We were bombing Taliban in Afghanistan just yesterday.

“It looks like our prosperity is gone for at least a generation.”
According to whom? And how do you measure prosperity. In terms of those who are prosperous or those who aren’t?

“the terrorist will hit other targets in the U.S.”

CIA and Homeland Security are still saying their cells are here in the US, just a matter of time.

“some of our soldier have humiliated dozens of suspected terrorist prisoners “

Change that to 100’s humiliated, some murdered while in custody, many tortured while in custody, a 100 plus court martials and administrative discipline of those involved in torture and abuse, and you be close to presenting real facts instead of some diluted conservative vision designed to hide faults and flaws obvious to anyone who reads the news.

“and significantly degraded Al Qaeda.”

What does this mean? We degrade them by calling them names? Most reports indicate the numbers following their lead are greater today than on 9/12/2001, not less. The facts, Jack, let’s have some facts.

“The total number of U.S. casualties in both Iraq and Afghanistan over four years is less than we lost in a couple of minutes on 9/11.”

Wow! We are so lucky to have lost only 2000 troops to body bags and 10,000 to being maimed and wounded. Yes, it could have been so much worse. And will be worse every year we remain there in terms of casualties. I guess I just haven’t your sense of gratefulness for better times, Jack.

Economics, Jack. At what cost prosperity? 8 Trillion national debt instead of 5 and 3/4 when Bush came into office? That’s great news. More folks living in poverty every year Republicans control the Whitehouse and Congress? Yeah, that’s great economic news.

Fed revised GDP expected growth downwards, and Greenspan warns of the ripple effects of oil prices throughout the economy, as well as possible unsustainable housing prices the equity losses for millions of Americans that portends. One of the slowest growing economies of large nations. That’s good news?

Tell ya what Jack, I love your optimism. If I get my leg blown off, I will seek you out to remind me how lucky I am to have another in reserve.


Posted by: David R. Remer at August 31, 2005 10:20 PM
Comment #76782

J. Anthony,

Notwithstanding everything else, if you had told me four years ago that Osama would be a free man today and not have to pay for what he’d done to us, and that the US would have precipitated an incipient civil war in a nation of more than 25 million people because the President simply had no idea what post-war Iraq should look like, I’d have punched you in the nose (metaphorically speaking, of course).

Posted by: Chuck Hanrahan at August 31, 2005 10:36 PM
Comment #76784

David,

It’s evident that you are not in “sales” as J. Anthony Matel referenced from. ;-)

But this does raise a very interesting question.

Is there a general political differentiation between optimists and pessimists? (BTW people who call themselves realist are really pessimists, who can’t stand the term, not surprising). I have friends and family members on both sides of the political aisle. Republicans (in my circle) tend to be more optimistic, in or out of office then Democrats. Is there any research out there on this topic? I’d be interested to know.

Posted by: discerner at August 31, 2005 10:43 PM
Comment #76786

As an example of my theory above, look at the archive listings in the Democratic watchblog and compare it to the Republican watchblog.

See any trends?

Posted by: discerner at August 31, 2005 10:48 PM
Comment #76790

Very true about the additudes of the Reds/Blues… could that also have something to do with accepting things at face value… the pretty pictures on the TV for instance…?

Thank you David for giving some statistical rather than rhetorical arguemnts, our friends on the right haven’t really gotten the hang of that yet…

Posted by: Ryan at August 31, 2005 10:58 PM
Comment #76793

Republicans have many reasons to be optimistic. Tax Cuts. Party controls all branches of Government. No real sacrifice on the War in Terror.

The way to make Republicans STOP being optimists is to reinstitute the Draft. You will be surprised how many will be pessimists then.

Posted by: Aldous at August 31, 2005 11:03 PM
Comment #76799

There will be no need to re-institute the draft… the draft of the 21st century is called college tuition. That or extreme poverty. Either way you keep the republican base safe at home, while the lower to middle class, real working class Americans go to war.

Posted by: Ryan at August 31, 2005 11:10 PM
Comment #76801

Aldous:

If the word “DRAFT” was taken out of your vocabulary, you wouldn’t have nmuch to say, would you?

Perplexed

Posted by: Perplexed at August 31, 2005 11:15 PM
Comment #76816

Aldous the “one draft pony” is back….

I was in the “draft” and was and still am an optimist. It didn’t matter who was President.

I gather you’re a pessimist?

Posted by: Discerner at September 1, 2005 12:53 AM
Comment #76825

Jack,

If you bought a basket full of stocks on September 12th, they’d be worthless. The market didn’t reopen until the 17th. :)

But I agree with Chuck. If you told me that OBL would still be alive and free, I wouldn’t have believed you. I would have had even more trouble believing that the American public didn’t give a damn.

Posted by: Burt at September 1, 2005 1:48 AM
Comment #76846

Jack,
The difference between a salesman and our President is one is required to be Right. Can you tell me which one? The Market crashed after 9/11 not just because America was attacked, but a 2500 point margin call that came into play due to some really bad reports. No, the Republicains finally did a good job getting to the top; however, given the Natural Course of Human Events and Human History if I was an incombent(sp)running in 2006 I would be worried.

Posted by: Henry Schlatman at September 1, 2005 3:39 AM
Comment #76849

Discerner, were the tables reversed, with Democrats holding majorities where Republicans now do, you would find the Democrats preaching optimism under their leadership as well, and Republicans pessimistic about what is taking place under Democratic leadership.

I am 55, I have lived through a couple of these reversals of optimism and pessimism very directly pinned to who is in power. The party in power is on the defensive - they are involved in defending their decisions against a minority party which can only attain majority status by being critical of the majority party.

This dynamic is well researched mechanism in sociology and psychology of groups disciplines going back some 5 decades and is now pretty voluminous.

Posted by: David R. Remer at September 1, 2005 5:01 AM
Comment #76863

I am not preaching optimism. I am just thinking back to what the future looked like on 9/11. People have forgotten how bad things looked and how bad things could have turned out. That is why I mentioned the call girl principle. After the problem is mitigated, people forget it and criticize the solution.

Take Afghanistan. The left does. I mean they take it as a given that we could easily invade and that anyone would have done it. At the time, you heard a lot of talk about the graveyard of empires, how we could never hope to be successful there. Move on.org opposed the whole thing. I donít believe Al Gore would have invaded. He would have worked with allies to try to police the place. It would not have worked, but we would have blamed the inevitable.

I think the economy recovered on its own, but it would have been possible to stop that recovery if President Gore had imposed some price controls (to be fair and head off speculation) or rescinded tax cuts.

We can stipulate that President Gore would not have invaded Iraq. You can cheer that Saddam is still in power, that his subversion of sanctions is complete, that Libya felt no need to give up its own WMD and that Saddam is back in that business.

Or yeah, since President Gore didnít invade Afghanistan, the unrest spread to Pakistan. Now we face a nuclear Taliban. People say that it was inevitable. It would have happened no matter what.

We could be facing a lot worse than we have today. Bush made some mistakes, but his direction was right. My point is that the left assumes all his successes were given and that any shortcomings were only his. This is the classic assumption of the call girl principle. After you see the working solution, you just believe you could have done it alone.

David

I donít know why you mention revising GNP figures downward as such a big deal. They are revised up and down every time they do it. That is the nature of the operation. You didnít mention that deficit figures have also been revised way down, as the Bush tax cuts stimulate the economy.

There is a bottom line we can see above the daily ups and downs. The economy today is good and much better than it was in September 2001, either before or after the attacks.

Burt

Sorry about the September 17. I wasnít thinking about the exact dates. I didnít mean to deceive with the wrong dates. (I am not Michael Moore). Okay. If you bought a basket of stocks on September 17 and held onto them, you are very happy today with your investment.

Posted by: jack at September 1, 2005 7:49 AM
Comment #76864

Jack,

So Bush is a call girl, eh? That is quite a straight line…

The stock market also recovered. It is not quite as high as during the highest point when the bubble started to deflatge at the end of the Clinton Administration, but if you had followed a simple diversified buy and hold strategy over the last ten years, you are solidly in the black.

Interesting selective use of facts. Yes, the stock market has done extremely well over the last ten years, but what does that have to do with Bush? Was he calling Clinton and Greenspan from Austin giving them economic advice?

Believe it or not, the economy so completely recovered from 9/11 that most people forgot that these events ever threatened our prosperity. Democrats refused to even consider it when discussing the challenges of the economy during the last election.

There is clearly an anti-Bush bias in the Democratic Party. ;)

One thing you have not mentioned is how we are regarded around the world. We are less respected now than China. People in South Korea are more afraid of Bush than of Kim Jong Il. (Don’t believe me? Ask someone from South Korea!) Bush did an incredible job of squandering the good will we accumulated after 9/11.

Now keep in the mind I not saying that we should be despised and feared around the world. This is a great country, but we have lousy PR right now.

Posted by: Woody Mena at September 1, 2005 7:49 AM
Comment #76868
Discerner, were the tables reversed, with Democrats holding majorities where Republicans now do, you would find the Democrats preaching optimism under their leadership as well, and Republicans pessimistic about what is taking place under Democratic leadership.

You don’t have to be hypothetical about it. Look at the 2000 election. Bush and the GOP talked as if the country was going down the toilet.

Posted by: Woody Mena at September 1, 2005 8:05 AM
Comment #76874

Jack:

You hit the nail on the head. What we have today is many pundits and self proclaimed experts making predictions AFTER the fact. Its like a golfer who says, “I KNEW I was gonna slice the ball”. Well, hell, if you KNEW it, then why didnt you play for it.

The reason is that you dont know it ahead of time. You might suspect it based on past performance but there are many possibilities out there of what might happen.

So it is with Iraq, the economy, elections etc. Predictions are made in advance, and then afterwards the predictions are replaced with “i KNEW that was gonna happen”.

Your call girl principle is also in effect. When a good thing does happen, its downplayed. Early thoughts on Iraq were that huge American casualties would be incurred, along with calamitous environmental problems (this having been the experience in Kuwait with the burning oil wells). Neither happened, and so the self proclaimed experts moved on to other complaints.

It is now common to hear people exclaim that “of course, the US was gonna win against Afghanistan and Iraq—-we knew that all along”. But considering that Russia fought Afghanistan for years with little success, the degree of success that we have reached is quite high. Not perfect, but nonetheless high.

Jack, you won’t get much love in WB, but you know that already. But the truth is the truth, no matter how much it hurts those who won’t accept it. Keep up the good work.

Posted by: joebagodonuts at September 1, 2005 9:06 AM
Comment #76876

Great Post! I remember looking up into the sky for the first time in my life and there were NO PLANES overhead. I live in Michigan - far from ground zero, but felt the effects of that awful day. You’re right, I could not imagine that we would be in this good of shape. Most people believed that another Depression was just around the corner, that more attacks were on the way, that the coming winter would be very hard. I also remembering thanking God that Gore had lost. We could just imagine his limp response and that scared us more than more attacks. We are Americans - we don’t lie down and just take it, we fight back and Gore just wouldn’t have done it. So let the Dems whine and complain about everything. We did the right thing going after terrorists and the governments that harbor them (just like Bush promised to do and was applauded for) we have rebuilt and restored our national pride and the infrastucture that was taken from us. Pessimists are always there. The trick is ignoring the “sky is falling” crowd and get on with your life. Go to work, take care of your family, pray for the soldiers that fight for us, give thanks for all the good in your life and quit yer bitchin!

Posted by: Ilsa at September 1, 2005 9:34 AM
Comment #76884

Ryan,

“There will be no need to re-institute the draft… the draft of the 21st century is called college tuition. That or extreme poverty. Either way you keep the republican base safe at home, while the lower to middle class, real working class Americans go to war.”

My entire family is conervative and very much Republican (and optimistic). Niether of my parents went to college. My brother and I are 1st generation college attendees. We are lower middle class and I consider my dad to be a real working class man. Anyhow, the piont I’m trying to make is that my father is in Iraq right now not because he couldn’t afford to get a good education which would get him a “better” job, but because of his love for this nation. His nation. He is in harms way because he cares about his county. He is out there taking a stand. Where are you?

Posted by: Cherish at September 1, 2005 9:58 AM
Comment #76886

The two posts before mine reminded me of something I heard Rush Limba (that’s probably not how you spell his last name) say on his radio show. He said that no one says “hmm, I think I’ll make a mistake today.” No one does. People go through life trying to do the best they can for themselves and others (most of the time for themselves ;-). Only after the fact whan all the information is present and the reprocusions of the day’s actions are present do peolpe say “oh, I made a mistake.” There is no such thing as mistakes. So if Dems want to be all pesimistic and say that this or that was a mistake then they must think that the president or other officails just woke up one moring and said “I think I’ll make a mistake today.” Not gonna happen!!

Posted by: Cherish at September 1, 2005 10:12 AM
Comment #76897

Jack,

You want credit for Afghanistan? OK, you’ve got it.

There was a reason that Bush’s approval ratings were very high after the invasion of Afghanistan. It’s because it was an operation that most people agreed with and went much better than most people expected. Kudos to President Bush.

The problem is, most people wanted us to finish the job in Afghanistan, and that included capturing or killing Osama Bin Laden. I know that isn’t important to you and most Republicans, but the rest of America hoped that Bush would live up to his word and get OBL dead or alive. That didn’t happen because Bush inexplicably decided to head into Iraq before the job was done.

Now you can invent as many hypothetical mistakes, blunders, and tragedies as you’d like had Gore become President. But we KNOW for a FACT exactly what mistakes, blunders and tragedies have occured under Bush. The fact that you don’t like to hear about it makes absolutely no difference to me whatsoever.

Posted by: Burt at September 1, 2005 10:36 AM
Comment #76910

What is being downplayed? Okay. School Openings, minimal reconstruction. Nominally successful elections and civil defense force creation. Endurance of the Bush administration of the continued insurgency.

Do you really need to downplay this stuff? No. It’s mediocre in comparison with this government’s stated goals. That’s why it doesn’t get more attention. The solution of these smaller problems mean nothing if the larger problem get taken care of.

I’d say the current problem is one of artificial complacency about this administration’s policies versus justified anxiety. That’s why the Blue Column’s opinions are gaining ground on the Reds- because there’s more evidence of the mismanagement of this war than there is of it’s positive management.

This stuff about Optimism vs. Pessimism is a red herring. Is it wrong to be pessimistic about a plan that hasn’t worked up to snuff? The real trouble for the Right, I think, is that we don’t unquestioningly accept the leadership from Bush. There are plenty of good people, I think, who don’t understand that. To those people, I’d say it’s a hard thing to accept but something that needs to be understood for what it is: justified anxiety and impatience motivated by a common love of our country and concern for their welfare. In both directions. The best things for both sides to do is to find out how things really are going, and grade the policies based on that. We don’t need false optimism, nor unnecessary pessimism.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at September 1, 2005 11:06 AM
Comment #76912
The solution of these smaller problems mean nothing if the larger problem get taken care of.

if the larger problem doesn’t get taken care of.

Sorry.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at September 1, 2005 11:08 AM
Comment #76930

Burt:

You said it, ďNow you can invent as many hypothetical mistakes, blunders, and tragedies as you’d like had Gore become President. But we KNOW for a FACT exactly what mistakes, blunders and tragedies have occurred under Bush.Ē

That is exactly what I am talking about. Whenever we choose a particular scenario, we donít choose others. But we have to acknowledge the risks and benefits of our choice versus the alternatives. That is what Bush bashers donít do. You are 100% correct. We know about all the mistakes Bush made.

The situation is analogous to a person needing an operation to remove a tumor. The operation will entail pain, bloodshed and risk of life. You can do nothing and avoid being responsible for all those things, but the alternative is that the tumor will kill you. After the operation, critics can point to all the troubles and mistakes because they know exactly what they are.

Posted by: jack at September 1, 2005 11:56 AM
Comment #76975

Jack,

Your analogy is a poor one. While we have evidence that the tumor will indeed kill you, you have no evidence of any sort to back up a claim that Gore would not have gone into Afghanistan, that the Taliban would have taken over Pakistan, the economy would be worse off, or especially the old, already discredited argument that Libya wouldn’t have given up their nuclear ambitions.

Posted by: Burt at September 1, 2005 2:00 PM
Comment #76981

Talk about unadulterated spin. How can you call it anything else when you search for a reference point like 9/12/01 to make things look good.

Why not go back two days and say the Dow is up 100 points since then, and then talk about how good the stock market is doing under Shrub.

Keep spinning Jack, that’s what you’re good at.

Posted by: Ms Schwamp at September 1, 2005 2:11 PM
Comment #77032

I don’t recall anyone waiting until after Bush made his mistakes before they called him on it. I distinctly remember predicting to friends of mine that we would be in virtually this exact same place if he got elected. I distinctly remember saying, while Bush and Gore were campaigning, that if Bush got elected gasoline would be $3 dollars a gallon. I remember saying, before Bush got elected, that if Bush got in the White House Sadaam better watch out because Bush would take the any excuse as a reason to get the man who tried to kill his father.

However, I must admit that at present time (for the sake of the archives, it is 3 days after Hurricane Katrina struck the Gulf and flooded New Orleans) it is worse than I predicted. I didn’t think that Bush would help stop the Corp of Engineers from fixing the levee at New Orleans.

You argument that Bush’s critics are critizing his mistakes in hindsight is wrong. People in the center and left were screaming bloody murder from the beginning. Bush supporters just didn’t listen. Many of them were afraid; That fear is evident in Ilsa and Jack’s prior posts. Bush kept reminding them of that fear and used it to take us to Iraq.

I remember saying and hearing other people say, before we attacked Iraq, that there were no weapons of mass destruction, that Iraq was not a material threat to the US, that this would not be a quick operation, that there was no exit strategy, and that the fighting men of Iraq would retreat before our military only to dig in and fight guerilla wars later. All this I was able to see BEFOREhand, and I am no expert. All this was talked about openly before it happened. This was easy to see.

Predicting that Bush would make mistake is not difficult logic just think about what happened….Two men stood before the nation interviewing for the job of our leader and we chose the one that is widely accepted to be the dumber man, twice. Everybody conceded that Bush was dumber than Gore, and that Bush was dumber than Kerry. Ask yourself, “did you really expect the dumber man to make better decisions?”

The swing voters who picked Bush did (Republicans who voted for Bush didn’t care). They are just starting to see the results of their mistake. Everybody who wasn’t enamored of Bush in the beginning knew he going to screw up, it was simply a matter of how and when.

Posted by: Darrius at September 1, 2005 4:03 PM
Comment #77067

Perhaps you might want to go back and look at their college records and then re-evaluate ‘who was dumber Bush or Gore’ or Bush or Kerry. I think the proper question was who was dumber Gore or Kerry!

Posted by: Frank at September 1, 2005 5:25 PM
Comment #77106

Cherish,
Next time you write or speak to your father tell him I said Thanks for his service to our country.
Ron Brown

Posted by: Ron Brown at September 1, 2005 6:38 PM
Comment #77135
What we have today is many pundits and self proclaimed experts making predictions AFTER the fact.

Many people predicted EXACTLY what is happening in Iraq right now. But they were dismissed as crazy, anti-American, Stalinist, peacenik, etc…

Posted by: Woody Mena at September 1, 2005 8:17 PM
Comment #77144

Woody

I donít recall people predicting that we would take and occupy Iraq while suffering less than 2000 casualties, that Iraq would hold its first free election, with a high turn out, that Saddam would not succeed in destroying a significant part of the oil industry, that Iraq’s environment would be improving so fast, that electricity generated would be higher than pre-war levels so soon, that the number of telephones would increase five fold in such short a time, that access to Internet would grow exponentially, that the number of free newspapers would go from zero to 170 and that there would be 26 independent tv stations.

Of course, they may have also predicted that traffic has increased five fold, indicating that no matter what anyone says, people are out and about in cars.

I think that people who predicted such things might have been called crazy, but they would also have been called Bush supporters.

Posted by: jack at September 1, 2005 9:39 PM
Comment #77157

Jack,

If everything is so rosy, then let’s leave and let them enjoy the fruits of freedom and democracy!

…Oh, you mean it would collapse into anarchy and civil war if we left?

Posted by: Woody Mena at September 1, 2005 10:24 PM
Comment #77165

Woody

I would like us to leave and I am sure we will as soon as we can. Things are certainly better for Iraqis now than under Saddam, but when we removed the Tyrant, it left a power vaacum. If we leave too soon you are right. It would be chaos and bad for all involved.

This is a risky business. Risk is something you have to endure to get something better.

Posted by: jack at September 1, 2005 10:59 PM
Comment #77202

Jack,

These sects (tribes?) have been infighting for centuries.

Unless there is some political strongman waiting in the wings, we’re going to be in Iraq for a long, long time.

Posted by: Rocky at September 2, 2005 1:54 AM
Comment #77352

Considering the impact of the 9/11 was so small, materially if not psychologically, I can’t believe you think it is worthwhile to pat yourself on the back over this.

I mean, do you think there was ever room for doubt?

What your little story really shows is how big of a deal this thing, which at the time was admittedly new, scary and horrible, was made into. The entire population has been driven by fear since that point.

Now, unfortunately, we have a real disaster on our hands to put things back into perspective.

Posted by: Andrew at September 2, 2005 12:58 PM
Comment #77445

Ron Brown,

Thank you for the thought. I will deffinately let my dad know. My dad will really appreciate the support.

Cherish

Posted by: Cherish at September 2, 2005 4:28 PM
Comment #77628

Jack stop the spinning, you are making me DIZZY. And you must be an old man because I bang the callgirl more than once.

Posted by: Michael angel at September 3, 2005 12:04 AM
Comment #77643

These posts are meaningless. Is this what Conservatives are all about? How the economy is doing? Tell that to a survivor of Gulf Port. People are dying in the city of New Orleans of dehydration, starvation, and the violence of anarchy. You mean to tell me that Homeland Security couldn’t muster a couple of helicopters for a food and water drop over the Convention Center? Oh, and please don’t say it was because people were shooting at them. That has not been confirmed and I believe the head of the FAA has said that none of the aircraft flying over the city reported gunfire directed at them. Besides - Republicans are champions of the 2nd amendment - guns don’t kill people only blah, blah, blah…you chickenhearts! Just imagine how bin Laden is loving this in his bunker in the mountains of Pakistan! Look how we’re bumbling around with our heads up our asses 5 days after the fact! Al Qaeda must be putting new plans in place to strike while the iron’s hot. The feds declared the Gulf Coast a disaster area BEFORE the disaster struck people! There was time to arrange for those now flooded school buses to take the poor out of the city. There was time to arrange transportation and deployment of food and water within a time range of 48 hours rather than 5 days. Put a positive spin on 80 dead people in the St Regis nursing home. The sleeper cells surely see this as their wake-up call. Pray that your city isn’t their new bulls-eye. Cuz you’re gonna die. And die ugly.

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