February 28, 2005

You can't curse on your cellphone?

Call me a…well don’t call me on my cellphone. Sometime back, Flying Hedgehogs reported that in reading the fine print of her cellphone manual, she found that profanity and indecent language were prohibited due to FCC rules. (This puts a new light on state/local rules against cellphone use while driving, maybe they are actually trying to protect one against federal prosecution!)

Now it seems that this FCC jursidiction over your cellphone conversation content is real, according to Mobiledia. A few days back the FCC, to (you guessed it) protect the children, is eyeing cellphone smut. I believe in public propriety and childhood innocence, and the biblical adage that what is whispered in secret will be shouted from the rooftops, but is the federal government allowed everywhere private these days?

Posted by Matthew Hogan at February 28, 2005 10:43 AM
Comments
Comment #45026

Values right? Isn’t that what you guys are all about.

Posted by: justin at February 28, 2005 12:09 PM
Comment #45034

And we used to ‘joke’ about what we said on the phone when we were kids because ‘the operator is listening’.
I do think that people need to pay attention to who is nearby and use appropriate language.

I guess I’ll soon be arrested for ‘flipping the bird’ to the eyes in the sky too.

Posted by: dawn at February 28, 2005 12:53 PM
Comment #45053

This has to do with downloadable objectionable content. There is no one listening to your calls for obscene content unless your a suspected terrorist, drug dealer, or paris hilton.

Posted by: dwhit at February 28, 2005 01:54 PM
Comment #45065

Maybe they aren’t doing so now, but who knows what they might do in the future. We look at the fine print and scoff because of course, no one really cares that much, but someone might take advantage of it in the future.

I can very much see someone pressing the issue simply to make a point, like the idiot who sued the people who make Oreos, not because he had anything against Oreos specifically, but because he had issues with trans fats and wanted to make a point. What if someone who had an issue with people using profanity in public used this loophole to make a point?

I don’t like it when people use bad language in front of my kids, but that bad language is not restricted to cursewords, which are perfectly alright in my view as long as used appropriately. (i.e. calling an actual, real, live female dog a bitch and so on) but I’d prefer my children not hear people screaming at each other in public, talking loudly about their sex lives in public, and so on. On the other hand, I say plenty of things that other people wouldn’t want thier children to hear.

Last Christmas, I was shopping in Wal-Mart and was assuring my children that Santa Claus is an imaginary character used to represent the spirit of Christmas giving as opposed to an actual person living in an igloo someone northbound. A woman (sans child) whirled toward me and proceeded to attempt to give me the what-for for NOT lying to my child about whom they should be writing thank-you notes to every year.

If I want to say what I’d like to say in public, I guess I’d better just deal with whatever others want to say in public. After all, it’s the ‘public’, as in ‘everyone’s’. If you don’t like it, stay inside.

Personally, I’d rather not forego steak because the baby can only drink milk.

Posted by: Rose at February 28, 2005 02:56 PM
Comment #45069

Rose,

You made the point.
Our children.
Adults - so called adults - should have enough sense to watch out for our children.

Like the Santa thing … most parents who let their children believe also tell the older children not to tell the younger ones and ruin their fun - that they will find out on their own too.

If my children - believers in Claus - would have overheard you - I would simply have told them that you must have been a bad kid and always got coal.

Posted by: dawn at February 28, 2005 03:14 PM
Comment #45074

“If my children - believers in Claus - would have overheard you - I would simply have told them that you must have been a bad kid and always got coal.”

And in todays out of touch and lack of common sense PC world, you would have been sued for slander and would have lost.

Posted by: kctim at February 28, 2005 03:42 PM
Comment #45104

kctim,

Nope, not me. I would have waited until we were out of earshot of them so I wouldn’t ‘insult’ in front of her children.

Posted by: dawn at February 28, 2005 05:47 PM
Comment #45161

Good call Dawn.
The total disregard and lack of respect shown to you would STILL merit yours in return. A character trait that is sadly missing in todays US.

Posted by: kctim at March 1, 2005 09:50 AM
Comment #45165

Loosing site of the real issue, even Santa would probably agree that a cell phone is a personal communication devise. A devise that is used in the exact same way one would use a regular landline. I would actually like to see this one hit the courts. This is an FCC rule law that obviously infringes on our rights. Court action would force the FCC actually define some parameters. Definitions on what is appropriate in all aspects of broadcasting, weather in a court challenge or what have you, is long overdue. The Saving Private Ryan on television for Veterans day fiasco is a perfect example.

Children aside, you must know your audience. I am a father of a 7 year old. I am also a foul-mouthed chef, a liberal, and an atheist. Regardless of my classifications, I don?t need the FCC to tell me what is appropriate to say into my cell phone, when, the intended audience is a private matter. I don?t use profane language in front of my or others children. When speaking to my child on the phone, I still don?t.

This is a common courtesy issue. Lets define that.
1. Don?t curse in public, especially when there are children present or within earshot.
2. Don?t use language in a context that is inappropriate for younger people with the same regard.
3. Don?t do the above listed things when speaking into a phone in the same circumstances either.

Posted by: Chef Mark Alan at March 1, 2005 10:03 AM
Comment #45169

So Chef, you would then be one of those “rare” liberals who think it is also wrong for the govt to dictate if and where you smoke, what you eat or what you drive?

This may be a common courtesy issue but it is also a basic right issue and will continue to get worse. Just like a persons right to smoke, eat or drive.

Posted by: kctim at March 1, 2005 10:28 AM
Comment #45185

Call me a retard but I prowl around conspiracy sites every now and then just to see what they have. Does anybody seriously think a New World Order is coming? If so, it is time that I get to law school and start suing the Federal Government for everything in the books that are unconstitutional.

Posted by: Leon S. Blythe at March 1, 2005 12:14 PM
Comment #45203

Leon
Yes and its too late to start sueing.

Posted by: kctim at March 1, 2005 01:24 PM
Comment #45279

There is one thing missing however in the general public of america. COMMON SENSE! I feel that common sense should be a requirement of High School students. Make it a 2 semester course on how to be courteous, balancing a checkbook, fire is hot, playing in the street is dangerous, guns are weapons not toys. Stuff like that.

I am a high school teacher and the things that come out of students mouths, even on a cellphone, would make Larry Flint blush (or call them when they’re 18). I don’t allow that kind of language in my classroom, but who am I to judge what they do outside my classroom?

Parents are not raising kids to be adults anymore, most of the time the parents are kids themselves!

Posted by: Chemtrooper at March 2, 2005 01:25 PM
Comment #45369

Chemtrooper,

Common sense and RESPECT for others.

I’ve seen too many teens who think they can do what they want , where they want, and everyone else is wrong if they are asked to ‘behave’ themselves.

Posted by: dawn at March 3, 2005 07:41 AM
Comment #45534

i am in agreement with chef mark alan, above. a phone conversation is a private matter, whether it be landline or on a cellular device. of course, the use of cellphones has pushed the barriers of what people consider private. i’m sure you’ve seen people walking around, yelling into their phone with disregard for who may hear them. what language is used is totally up to the individual, it’s a right of free speech.

i swear, perhaps not a lot, but enough for some to consider me foul-tounged. i take respect in my surroundings and try not to swear in public and never around children. i also take trust in believing that nobody is listening except for the person on the other end of the line. even while on my cell phone, i try to find a private spot where nobody would be bothered by my talking. with rising FCC indecency fines, it would be absurd worrying that i might get slapped with a hefty fine for blurting one of the many small words that are considered by some as a hateful, but others as simply a basic expression.

Posted by: daniel at March 4, 2005 06:45 PM
Comment #45756

Anybody that talks into their cell phone (always too loudly, of course) so the public can hear is a slob Say what you want, but if I have to hear it, you intrude into my rights. I will tell you what I think of it…and loudly.

You that preach free speech etc. need to preach curtesy. common sense, and respect. Most of you public cell phones users have no concept of this.

Posted by: Dee Lee at March 6, 2005 11:49 AM