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Jack,

Bush had my support after 9/11 and he betrayed that trust. After the election, if Bush wins, and he wins fairly, I will give him the benefit of the doubt once more. That will last until he decides to mislead us once again. As a lame duck President, I don’t expect that to take very long, since he will not even have to answer to the American people.

But there is always the chance that I could be wrong. Lets hope so.

So you trusted your President when a group of terrorists crashed planes into important buildings, but he betrayed you. That makes a lot of sense. Crashing planes into buildings shouldn’t be grounds to automatically trust another man.

I’ll not support any president of any party if their policies do not reflect competent assessment and crafting toward the benefit of most if not all American citizens, present and future.

Blind patriotic loyalty is how Hitler achieved total dominance over the people of his country, to the point of having children spy on, and turn in their parents. That is what patriotism and loyalty which turns a blind eye any criticism of authority can lead to.

Semper, your right, it didn’t make alot of sense to place my hopes and trust in Bush after such a devestating event. But many people were effected in a similar emotional shock, that is why you saw Bush’s approval rating skyrocket from dismal to 80+% within a month of the attacks.

I’ll not support any president of any party if their policies do not reflect competent assessment and crafting toward the benefit of most if not all American citizens, present and future.

Ditto for me David. I wouldn’t support Kerry if I didn’t believe his policies are right for America.

The truth is that the two sides of the American political equation need he other. Neither is has all the answers. Each completes the other and moderates the excesses of its rival.

Excellent article Jack, and I totally agree. That’s why I found Bush’s performance in the last debate so disturbing:

The moderator asked why America was so divided, and what they would do to unite the country in the face of our fight against terrorists. Kerry answered:

We have to change that. And as president, I am committed to changing that. I don’t care if the idea comes from the other side or this side. I think we have to come together and work to change it.

And I’ve done that. Over 20 years in the United States Senate, I’ve worked with John McCain, who’s sitting here, I’ve worked with other colleagues. I’ve reached across the aisle. I’ve tried to find the common ground, because that’s what makes us strong as Americans.

I thought that was a really thoughtful response, and it made me hopeful that, under a Kerry presidency, the divisive politics in Washington might end after the campaign season. Then Bush replied:

Washington is a tough town… We’re just in a period — we’ve got to work to bring it — my opponent keeps mentioning John McCain, and I’m glad he did. John McCain is for me for president because he understands I have the right view in winning the war on terror and that my plan will succeed in Iraq. And my opponent has got a plan of retreat and defeat in Iraq.

Uhg. What a dud.

“the other side or this side”

Divisive politics. This side? That side? The fact that he separates the two instead of referring to them as one overall body illustrates his lack of uniformity. Divisive John Kerry.

Hopefully after the election no matter who wins both “sides” will become bi-partisan and get on with the running of this country.
I doubt it, but you can always hope.

Oh, semper. You feel that some semantic quibbling about one of Kerry’s phrases is more important than Bush’s completely blowing off the question and turning it into a partisan attack!!?

Ugh. Rocky, you may be right.

I dont know why anyone supports the president for reelection. He has so much to benefit from the oil market and has already in the last 4 years. There are so many other African countries needing aid from tyrant oppressors, but do you see American troops invading those counties? Of couse not. They are just poor Africans and have nothing to offer us if we helped. So what they are starving, the Iraqi people need our help more.
Who is the president to decide what country needs to be liberated. Are the Iraqi’s more human than Africans? Or is it the fact that there are no weapons of mass destruction on Africa to harm Americans; apperently there are none in Iraq either.
My fellow Americans, please lets do the Humane thing tomorrow and vote President Bush out of office. It is time for change.

Jack
Admirable post, but just a dream. It will never happen.
While the liberal, socialist and communist party’s of our country will be jumping for joy Tuesday, when kerry wins, one movement will not be doing that, but instead they will be preparing for what is to come.
This movement does not believe in whining, singing and marching as the left does, to get its point across.
This movement does not believe as the left does, in that the US should become like a european country and allow the UN to dictate how we run our country.

kerry does not support the 2nd Amendment.
kerry supports the jack boot tactics of the DEA, AFT and FBI in terrorizing the American people.
kerry supports the US answering to the UN, thereby giving up US sovereignty.
kerry will have to support giving Americans a pay-cut(tax increase) to support all of his social vote buying promises.

Whether these beliefs are true or not, I can see the militia movement growing ten-fold within the next 4 years. It will make the huge militia growth under clinton look like an anthill.

Right or wrong makes no difference. This movement, unlike the leftist movements, are prepared to fight and die for their beliefs in the Constitution.
With kerry’s views being as they are, and if this movement grows as fast and as large as I fear, the next four years under kerry will make the three clinton fiasco’s look tame.

A peaceful acceptance of the other party? I just don’t see it in our future.

Jack;
Yours is the best comment I’ve read on these pages, and the only hope we have as Americans (not librals or conservatives, but AMERICANS). At least SOMEONE is doing something to try to bring us together instead of driving wedges between us. Although I am a Kerry supporter, I agree that no matter who is elected tomorrow, we need to get behind being AMERICANS instead of being liberal/conservatives and start thinking about what we can do together. Thanks for your thoughts.

Dave Myers

Thank you Dave.

I was starting to worry. We will have to come together the day after tomorrow. Vote tomorrow and we can both be confident that the best man will win.

When I think about it, I don’t think I would have voted for John Kennedy in 1960. He turned out okay. I hope the same is true for this JFK if he wins.

I thought this was a great article. I think that in this election more than ever it wouldn’t matter who was running against Bush. This race is just Bush against himself. As far as I’m concerned Kerry hasn’t expressed enough of his political stands for me to decide if I trust him or not. He says he wants to change alot of things, but hasn’t said how. We all want things to change, but unless there is a solid detailed plan chances are it wont happen. As far as Bush goes since the 9/11 attacks, I don’t know of how anyone could have handled it better. I haven’t heard Kerry say what he would have changed about it, and can’t even begin to imagine how as a president he would deal with this country being attacked which scares me.
However, either way this election goes I think it is important that we all come together again as Americans and make the best of the situation. The president is just one man of power, it seems as though most people forget that we have Congress as well. One man will not make or break our country, especially when they are so similar.

Why are americans so assured that the voting process is fair and reflects the opinion of the majority of Americans? Read this article and believe what you will. Is this the height of democrasy or the epitomy of fraud and mind control? See 4 yourself:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10393

I am suppose to believe an article from
www.theinquirer.net ??

This main article was written very well, and the common theme rings true. We must come together, under ANY president and do what we can to make this a great country!!!

Brother Sadiq makes a lot of sense. The people who are ignored and mistreated in the world are Africans and If we were more unified the Powers That Be would be terrified of us. That is why local police and anti-gang organizations banded together with assistance of the CIA and Mafias to help assasinate the Black Panthers for Self Defense. They tried to peg Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam as nigger terrorists because they were afraid of a unified front of Africans throughout the World that would fight back France and the US and Britain for the raping and colonizations of our people. In America the government has suceeded in intimidating a majority of Blacks so that they are scared of each other and the US government. Fear is the greatest mechanism for control. The Bush Administration understands this very well. The same techniques that work for the KKK work for all European nations and Anglo Supremacists Powers in the world. The truth is though that these crimes are not repented and there is no conscience alive in the White man who will have to pay the ultimate price and answer to the very poor and disenfranchised people he has been standing on. Regardless of what lies this man chooses to believe or spread every Black woman and man which trusts this wicked hustler will parish along side him. It is quite simple that we should give our lives to have lives, not surrender our spirits to the slaveowners who have gotten very wise at controlling the populous behind the scenes. From the white jesus to the chemically treated hair we have been conned too many times for me to lay by idle and watch us be destroyed by our enemies and our own ignorance. The first mistake we make in this country is seeing ourselves as Americans when other Americans see us as Niggers. We should be glad and proud of our African heritage and seek out other Africans to love and support. The real terrorists are not Islamic nor Christian, they are however the wealthiest. Im the end Africans who have been at the bottom since the Diaspora will be reunited with their thrones and only those who truly love God will benefit from this transition. Everyone else will not enjoy this change because it will mark the era of doom for Babylonia and White Supremacists stranglehold on this Earth. Jah loves! One.

LittleBrother

Please leave the racism at out.

Jack, why would you say that? Racism is alive and well in America and Little Brother should have as much right to talk about racism as a political issue just as millions of folks who practice it have the right to profess that it does not exist.

David

People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

I don’t accept a KKK worldview and I don’t accept this one because I have never seen any confirmation of the facts on which they are based.

I may not have made myself clear in the my response, however. I don’t have trouble talking about racism. I thought the post itself was racist.

kctim wrote:

This movement does not believe as the left does, in that the US should become like a european country and allow the UN to dictate how we run our country

Actually the UN does not ‘dictate’ to any European country. We are governed by national, EU and International law (what there is of it). It certainly does not require any surrender of sovereignty.

That misunderstanding may be at the centre of your slow but progressive isolation.

BTY it is an isolation which I personally do not want to come about as I support the USA’s continued leadership in matters international.

But you don’t lead when you don’t bring anyone along with you.