April 12, 2004

Friendly Iraqis Maintaining Hope?

As the high-stakes gamble in Iraq continues, it is people like the author of this account who remain grateful for the American intervention. But they are only one aspect of the society that he describes, now under an occupying force whose soldiers may not know what a Sunni or Shiite is, and whose appointed government is alienated from the population.

Posted by Editor at April 12, 2004 11:14 AM
Comments
Comment #11975
Do I regret the war, especially now that things seem to be moving towards chaos here? Not at all. I still think we are much better off than under Saddam. At least now we are free to dream.

It was an elective war. We elected to stand for freedom and to do what we should have done in the first Gulf War.

I know not everyone agrees with that, but just think what would have been the result of toppling Saddam in 1991, instead of allowing him to stay in power.

We owed the Iraqi people that much and I am glad that we did it.

Posted by: Eric Simonson at April 12, 2004 11:06 PM
Comment #11980

I’ve been reading some articles and editorials from the NYT about the war—not the Iraqi war, mind you, but the US Civil War (so some very old stuff). What’s interesting is the level of harsh invective leveled against the president—a guy named Abraham Lincoln—every time something went wrong in the war. And a LOT more went wrong then than has gone wrong in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of casualities instead of hundreds. We’re in an election season now, but these accounts from average Iraqis help to remind us that win or lose in November, George Bush—a most surprising figure—is destined to go down in history on a very short roll-call of honor beside names like Lincoln, Churchill and Roosevelt. Some day perhaps Democratic partisans from this very blog will have occasion to visit Iraq and have their pictures taken beside the many statues of George Bush that are destined to dot the Iraqi landscape.

Posted by: Martin at April 12, 2004 11:23 PM
Comment #12021

I don’t know how many people would actually put Bush and Lincoln in the same sentence, unless it were- ” George Bush is Abraham Lincoln without the charm, intelligence, leadership and the beard”.
AS far as opposition to war goes, where there is war, there will always be opposition because there are still people sane enough to realise that no lasting good can come from it, (xcept maybe the in the case of the Nazi’s).
As far as Bush goes , the war is just one on a long list of things that he’s got wrong.

Posted by: Suhasini at April 13, 2004 09:23 AM
Comment #12024

This is why so many of us don’t trust the left for a second when it comes to national security.

All you can bring yourself to say is that maybe—MAYBE????—it was okay to fight the nazis?

Otherwise, there has been no lasting good to ever come of a war? I guess that you think that all of your freedoms were handed to you by benevelent fairy godmothers or European “humanitarians” as soon as Europe finished (of their own free will and moral conscience, you must believe) economically and literally raping their colonies all over the world.
History—people used to study it.

Posted by: Martin at April 13, 2004 11:21 AM
Comment #12025

People can continue to hate GWB all they want for this war; that’s fine by me. As long as he squeeks out a re-election in ‘04 so we can continue down the path we are on and not try a disasterous change in direction.

In fact, GW’s re-election is probably best for the Democrats anyway. It saves them from a terrible nominee (Kerry) and makes ‘08 a lock for Sen. Clinton.

Posted by: George at April 13, 2004 11:26 AM
Comment #12027

Maybe the nomination will be a lock for Clinton—but that’s not saying a lot. Clinton’s hugely popular in places like LA and New York, but people are living in la-la-land if they think a female NY Senator—and Bill Clinton’s wife to boot—would be anything but a total flame-out. Clinton keeps all the red states red, and turns many of the upper midwest blue states red as well.

This seems a more likely scenario:

George Bush in 04
Jeb Bush in 08
Jeb Bush in 12

And then by 2016 some of the younger Bushes should be ready for their turn.

Posted by: Martin at April 13, 2004 11:45 AM
Comment #12037

Yes, but providing the GOP does not make any headway into the Hispanic vote, the demographics alone say the Democrats will have it in ‘08. The growth in all minority populations is staggaring, and they have historically voted Democratic. This is one of Dick Morris’ big points as the reason Hillary is not running this time around.

Hill would have incredible unfavorables as you say, but, just as in New York, there are just too many Democratic voters out there.

Posted by: George at April 13, 2004 02:18 PM
Comment #12215

Martin,
Excuse me, delete the maybe from my post.
As for european countries raping colonies, I’m of Indian origin, I know better than anyone, what it’s like to live under colonial rule. I also know a lot about Mahatma Gandhi, and how HIS way worked as opposed to the way of other freedom fighters such as JC Bose, (whom you may not know of) who tried to fight an out and out war, amd failed miserably as well as caused the death of thousands uneccesarily.

Posted by: Suhasini at April 15, 2004 01:35 AM
Comment #12216

Our enemies are the same here, we all want to see them go away. Please, just because we differ on the WAY in which we should get rid of them, don’t go assuming that we don’t want to see the world made safer.

Posted by: Suhasini at April 15, 2004 01:40 AM