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Thanks for the most idiotic blog post I’ve read in a long time. For openers, your spelling is atrocious: it’s “vice versa”, “incite”, “whole-hearted” and “homicide” with a small “h”. Secondly, you don’t make an argument or present any evidence, you simply spout off, and thirdly you fail to distinguish the ordinary Palestinians from the terrorist Hamas members among them.

Finally, and most egregiously, you fail to appreciate that the population imbalance between Israel and the surrounding Arabs means that their present course of action can only fail on the long run.

Before gifting us with your opinions again, learn something about basic literacy, please. Not a single person is persuaded by such rants, and those of us who would like to see Israel survive are simply embarrassed by your lack of intelligence.

I’m in favor of Israel surviving. I’m also in favor of Palestinians being given a home. And at the end of it all, I’m deeply in favor of breaking the cycle of violence. Israel’s current all-out campaign to destroy Hamas leaders is leaving a wake of innocent bodies that is abhorrent to me.

When will we learn that someone, somewhere has to declare a stop in order for the violence to end? Israel’s policy of continuing to meet violence with violence will not work becausse it cannot work.

Your comment that, “Israel has shown much more of a sign of peace initiative than the Palestinians have ever shown” stands without proof or support. My take is that neither side has shown much interest in peace. And it is my belief that in recent times at least it is always Israel that escalates.

Bennett, I like how you aren’t afraid to backhand your own party writers. It was warranted and I agree with the points you made, but it was so refreshing to see that instead of an apologist attitude so frequently found in both the Right and the Left.

Ok, Mr Bennett, you have made a good point. My spelling was incorrect, sorry about that. That is what I get for trying to blog after a few drinks.

Anyhow, I disagree with your take on Israel’s action thus far and the future of their success. The success of this region is not dependent on Israel’s action or inaction. Israel will not be able to sit back and be attacked, ever! The solution? Who knows, but one thing for sure is that many Arab nations want nothing more that Israel’s evaporation. Anything short will be unacceptable. With this type of mentality, Israel will have no choice, but to be on the defensive.

This is mostly my point. Population imbalance or not, what choice does israel have? If every household on your block wanted to do you in, imagine your reaction when an innocent paperboy wanted to knock on your door to make a sell.

Israel cannot succeed by taking a pounding from any homicide bomber attack. If they can, please inform me with you infinite wisdom. Oh, and Mr. Bennett, notice that I used a little “h” for homicide, happy now?

Israel has to walk a very fine line if it wants to survive, avoiding an overly-aggressive posture, because that will incite the Arabs to attack all the more, and avoiding an overly-accommodating posture that appears to the Arabs as weakness. Some of their governments have walked this fine line quite well in the past, but this one - the Sharon government - is, in my opinion, too aggressive.

Perhaps we should address the real issue at hand, which is: Why do both Arabs and Israelis feel so antagonistic towards each other and their hatred so unresolvable that BOTH sides feeel that their only recourse is total extermination of the other side?

As for peace… that can only be attained when both sides realize that colonies/settlements must stop, killings must stop, segregation must stop, and the hate-filled rhetoric must stop and there is a real design for integrating Israelis/Arabs into a single society (I don’t care who was there first, share the damned land).

Blah, this is not going to be resolved because neither side wants to make any concessions to the other.

Right on! First off, Fuck the spelling bee and that nit pick pussy. Israel has every right to protect it’s self and I am 100% in favor of them eliminating ( killing ) the leaders of the terrorists as well as demolishing the homes of terrorists. No Terrorist family should benefit from these attacks.

Well that’s my two cents. Gee golly whiz, I certainly hope I spelled everything WRITE !!!

“Why do both Arabs and Israelis feel so antagonistic towards each other and their hatred so unresolvable that BOTH sides feeel that their only recourse is total extermination of the other side?”

Prove it!!!!

Prove that the Israelis hate the Arabs living in historic Israel? It is obviously totally false - they are simply defending themselves against murderers/ racists/ terrorists…

Your statement comparing the victims and their murderers is despicable.

Everytime a Hamas leader is assassinated, three more pop up to take his place. How else could the IDF take out so many “high ranking officials”? How many high ranking officials can an organization have? (Yes, I’m copying from Thomas Friedman, but only because he’s correct.)

I’m not sure people understand that the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip have been under military occupation for 36 years. This means that the vast majority have no concept of self-government, sovereignty, or democratic freedom except for what they see on TV.

As for Israel’s neighbors, peace has been established (if tenaciously) with Syria, Jordan and Egypt. Even the Lebanese border is relatively quiet. The singular problem is the same problem the first Zionists recognized when they first considered Palestine as the home of the future Jewish State, i.e. Palestine was already inhabited.

It is clear that Palestinians need to strive to build a civil society that rejects terror; on the other hand, how can we insist that they accept Israel as a Jewish State when its very formation depended on the ethnic cleansing of the majority Arab population?

Historians debate the extent to which the 1948 refugees fled their homes of their own free will, but no matter the reason, Israelis ought to thank their lucky stars the Palestinians did leave.

Otherwise, the choice would have been a Jewish apartheid or a bi-national democracy with a Jewish minority.

I think that Israelis have a right to attack homicide bombers and just because their land is not big doesn’t mean that they won’t prevail…..they did in the bible and with a small shepard boy(david) took out goliath because everyone else was to afraid to attack the giant and he did! and in the name of God. It was the same people that are bothering Israel today. So I say I am in favor of Israel yeah right the Palestinians want peace they never have and never will unless God does a miracle for those people! they have been wanting isreal since it became a nation back in abraham and lot days in the bible that is too long to be drooling over a piece of land… I mean come on! the Palestinians must be jealous but its getting old you know they are 2 years old but they sure do act that way just because they didn’t get that land that they want…. i mean life is not fair i do not get want i want all the time but do i go around and bomb people in hopes it will destroy them so i can get what i want nope! so Israel is going to have to stand up for themselves and kick-butts like we did in iraq and of course i do not want innocennt people getting hurt, but sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

A military action should only be taken if it is going to improve things and if it is the only option. The problem with the violence in Israel is that the violence only brings on more violence. IDF assasinates one leader. Hamas to get revenge use suicide bombers. So the IDF to get revenge kill someone else. It is a constant cycle that as long as they can continue to blame each other for the violence it will never end until they are all dead. So a military action is only going to continue the problems. What needs to happend is for the Hamas and Israel to difuse their anger. Rather then killing people they need to arrest them and try them in a war tribunal of some sorts. This would go for both Israel and Hamas.

I think there is at time and a place for military actions I just don’t think that this is one of them.

Read Joe Sacco’s book Palestine to get some more perspective on the region and its history. Israel was founded on the notion that the Palestinians don’t matter and should just be driven from their homes to make room for Israeli settlers. Innocent peoples’ homes get bulldozed, protesters get shot and imprisoned and tortured. It’s horrible stuff happening. The fact that Palestinian terrorists commit atrocities is sad. The fact the Israeli government, police, and military commit atrocities is even sadder since it gets excused away because, hey, it’s a legitimate government and an ally.

I agree with Jon.