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Obamacare Repeal Bill Lacks Public Support In Poll

The legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare is supported by less than a quarter of American voters according to a recent survey by Quinnipiac University.

The poll released Thursday (based on 1,078 voters from a broad range of demographics) resulted in 56% outright disapproval of the legislation, which the House of Representatives passed to replace the Affordable Care Act with Trump's 'American Health Care Act' (AHCA).

Only 21% said they outright supported it, though this is still an increase from the bill that failed to pass the House in March, when just 17% were on board.

A more general question that asked respondent's their opinion on President Trump's overall handling of healthcare, resulted in 66% outright disapproval and 32% outright approval.

On whether the AHCA will negatively affect America, 49% said it would while 29% said it would help the nation. 13% don't think it will have any impact at all.

When broken down by party lines not one person from any party outside of the Republicans were in favor of the new bill, which equated to 48% of Republicans that were surveyed. So in other words, even less than half of Republicans support the AHCA outright and no Democrats were on board.

One of the main reasons for such low support is the ability for States to individually veto the requirement for insurers not to charge people for have preexisting medical conditions - something Trump had previously claimed wouldn't happen.

Overall 75% of those surveyed said this was a 'bad idea' - including 59% of Republicans, while 66% said the Obama provision that stopped charging for preexisting conditions was explicitly a good idea.

The new legislation which also changes one of the core tenets of Obamacare, that all Americans are required to purchase health insurance at risk of a fine, also allows insurers to pass on certain conditions and procedures. It has been argued that Obamacare forced consumers to take out more comprehensive plans than they even needed.

Yesterday Rep. Tom MacArthur of New Jersey, a staunch supporter of 'repeal and replace' faced boos when he attended a town hall meeting to woo the opposition. The anger erupted after he suggested the insurance industry was crumbling under Obamacare - not surprising considering he is a former insurance executive.

Many of the disliked aspects of the bill were covered by Late Night host Jimmy Kimmel in an impassioned monologue that has received nearly 10 million views on Youtube as of writing.

Posted by KeelanB at May 11, 2017 4:44 PM
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Comment #416050

Keelan, I took a look at the Quinnipiac University polling trends on obamacare from your link.

Do you think President Trump and the Republicans in Congress should repeal all of
the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, should repeal parts of the healthcare
law but keep other parts, or should not repeal any of the Affordable Care Act?
(*President
-
elect)
Repeal Repeal Not
All Parts Repeal DK/NA
May 11, 2017 19 45 34 3
Mar 23, 2017 20 50 27 3
Mar 08, 2017 21 49 27 3
Jan 27, 2017 16 51 30 3
Jan 12, 2017* 18 47 31 4

Sixty-four percent favor repealing all, or part, of Obamacare.

TREND: How important is it to you that h
ealth insurance be affordable for all Americans:
very important, somewhat important, not so important, or not important at all?
Very Smwht NotSo NotImp
Imp Imp Imp Atall DK/NA
May 11, 2017
82 14 2 2
-
Apr 20, 2017 81 14 2 1 1
Mar 23, 2017 85 13 1 1 1
Mar 08, 2017 84 12 2 1 1
Jan 27, 2017 84 12 2 1
-

Ninety-five percent want health care to be affordable. Clearly, Obamacare is not affordable for all Americans. If it were, there would be no effort to change it.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 11, 2017 5:07 PM
Comment #416051

The Senate has the bill now and it will probably come out of there not even remotely looking like the House version. With that being said I think all the liberals need to unwad their panties and wait to see what the Senate come up with.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 11, 2017 5:08 PM
Comment #416056

The Republicans are plainly incapable at this point of registering that the popularity of certain attitudes within their safe districts does not equate to popularity outside of them. I know some people thought Clinton and her voters were out of touch, but what if the reverse is true? What if it’s the average Trump voter who needs to be figuring out what makes the average Hillary voter tick?

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at May 11, 2017 6:25 PM
Comment #416058

How bad is it, when the White House must be looking forward to the next CBO scoring of the House bill, because even that will be better than the current mess in the headlines.

Posted by: phx8 at May 11, 2017 6:25 PM
Comment #416063
Ninety-five percent want health care to be affordable. Clearly, Obamacare is not affordable for all Americans. If it were, there would be no effort to change it.

So…ah…Royal Trumpcare, the repub alternative to Obamacare, only seems to make health care affordable for the richest amongst us. It doesn’t help those that need help and it cuts medicaid and medicare. Seems to me we are shooting our selves in the foot compared to any other fu**ing universal health care country in the world.

Yet you and the rest of the conservatives here on WB defend it. Why?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 11, 2017 8:30 PM
Comment #416064

j2, Jumping the gun a little are we? The Senate is still hashing out their version. When it is finalized and voted on then you can either B**CH about it or accept it. Getting your panties in a bunch now IMO is kinda premature. By the way Aetna left the Obamacare exchange looks like it is imploding.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 11, 2017 8:55 PM
Comment #416073

The ACA is a complete disaster for middle class americans. Time to repeal it.

Posted by: dbs at May 12, 2017 6:51 AM
Comment #416074

What makes the average democratic voter tick is affordable health care, they could care less about the liberal litmus tests that plague the party today.

“The Republicans are plainly incapable at this point of registering that the popularity of certain attitudes within their safe districts does not equate to popularity outside of them.”

Change ‘Republicans’ to liberals, Stephen, and you are one step closer to understanding why someone like Trump is President.
Using activist courts and representatives to force the attitudes of liberal enclaves onto the rest of the nation was a mistake, and now you are paying for it.

Posted by: kctim at May 12, 2017 8:16 AM
Comment #416099
Jumping the gun a little are we? The Senate is still hashing out their version. When it is finalized and voted on then you can either B**CH about it or accept it. Getting your panties in a bunch now IMO is kinda premature.

So you think the repubs in the Senate will come up with anything much different than what is on the table and then send it back to the HoR and the representatives will say “sure thing”. KAP this isn’t like this is all new. Congress, both houses, has voted to repeal the ACA 40+ times over the years yet when they finally get the chance to do something they don’t have a clue as to what to do. But caught with their pants down they have to do something, after all they have all you movement followers worked into a tizzy over the ACA, and this Trumpcare joke is what we got. Yes the Senate may try to put some lipstick on it but with McConnell running the show he won’t be successful at getting it to look good.

So why stay silent until the Senate does something? Is that what you did during the Obama years!


By the way Aetna left the Obamacare exchange looks like it is imploding.

Sure they did and why not the repubs sabotaged them when they passed the Rubio inspired plan to screw up the “risk corridor” provisions of Obamacare.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/10/us/politics/marco-rubio-obamacare-affordable-care-act.html?_r=0

But I know, it’s all Obama’s fault isn’t it?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 12, 2017 4:40 PM
Comment #416107

So you now agree with unlimited taxpayer dollars being given to the evil corporations, J2?

Posted by: kctim at May 12, 2017 5:25 PM
Comment #416108

j2, I have no idea what the Senate will come up with and neither do you so to BITCH about it at this time is pure STUPIDITY, and yes I waited until the finished product came out of your side before I BITCHED.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 12, 2017 5:26 PM
Comment #416111

So you now agree with unlimited taxpayer dollars being given to the evil corporations, J2?
Posted by: kctim at May 12, 2017 5:25 PM

Thanks for nailing j2t2’s hide to the wall.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 12, 2017 5:33 PM
Comment #416123

It’s hard to blame people for not wanting the AHCA when the left has been lying about one the pre-existing conditions part of the law… But explaining facts to people who are emotionally or politically invested is usually a losing battle.

Posted by: Rhinehold at May 12, 2017 7:42 PM
Comment #416162

Rhinehold,
The AHCA was actually worse than most people realize. It also adversely affects people who have their health insurance through their employer- which is most people- because the AHCA allows the use of rules of one state to apply in another; in other words, an employer in one state could use a cheaper insurer from a state which opts out of the ACA provisions. The employer would save money. The employee would still have insurance. However, the actual insurance would provide much less coverage. If the employee’s insurance comes from a state that opted out of essential health benefits, then tough luck for the employee. Even worse, if an employer uses insurance from a state that opted out, the lifetime limits might not apply.

According to the CBO, the first version of the AHCA would leave 14 million uninsured in the first year, and 24 million people uninsured after 10 years. We should see the CBO of the current version by the end of this week.

It was probably the worst single piece of legislation any of us have seen in our lifetime.

Posted by: phx8 at May 13, 2017 7:12 PM
Comment #416167

Many people misread the law, they think that a state can opt out of the AHCA requirements if they get a ‘waiver’, but that’s not actually accurate. They can opt out but only if they still meet the basic requirements, including the pre-existing conditions part.

It was probably the worst single piece of legislation any of us have seen in our lifetime

No, I can think of worse. Like the ACA which was designed to completely fail on purpose in order to push the country to single payer.

Posted by: Rhinehold at May 13, 2017 9:03 PM
Comment #416168
One of the main reasons for such low support is the ability for States to individually veto the requirement for insurers not to charge people for have preexisting medical conditions

The states specifically do not have this ability. I still don’t know where this started and why people think it’s true, but never pass up a good story for facts I suppose…

Posted by: Rhinehold at May 13, 2017 9:11 PM
Comment #416169

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-05-11/what-democrats-won-t-admit-about-voters-and-health-care

“The failures reflect scarcity in the world around us. It turns out we value health care for others more in rhetoric than in reality.”

Posted by: Rhinehold at May 13, 2017 9:41 PM
Comment #416197
So you now agree with unlimited taxpayer dollars being given to the evil corporations, J2?

Kctim, it isn’t about what I agree with or we would have universal health care like the rest of the 1st world. The fact is Rubio screwed up the ACA just like the article points out. That is why Aetna left and why the ACA has problems.

j2, I have no idea what the Senate will come up with and neither do you so to BITCH about it at this time is pure STUPIDITY, .

KAP, grow up dude the Trumpcare bill that just came from our representatives in Congress is what is on the table. It is a piece of crap, to stay silent while the Senate does whatever it may do will only make our Senators think the country likes what they see. Stupidity is having 6 years to craft something and not have anything done when the time came to have something workable. Stupidity is relying upon a repub controlled Senate to do something other than put lipstick on the pig.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 14, 2017 6:10 PM
Comment #416198

j2, Stupidity is lying about how great something is going to be just to watch it collapse before your eyes. The House version will NOT pass in the Senate, there are Reps who do not like parts of it so you are the one who needs to grow u[p and stop believing what you see in those grocery store tabloids. When you know what you are talking about then come and talk to me.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at May 14, 2017 6:29 PM
Comment #416199

j2t2 grow up Dude. Obamacare has been failing from the very day it was passed. They needed waivers from the beginning to keep it alive despite stealing $800 Billion from Medicare. The failure has accelerated well before the Trump or Senate win.

It is a favorite ploy of the Left to blame others for their heinous failures. Pouting, posturing and finger-pointing is what they do well.

Posted by: Royal Flush at May 14, 2017 6:33 PM
Comment #416210
No, I can think of worse. Like the ACA which was designed to completely fail on purpose in order to push the country to single payer.

Rhinehold perhaps it was a desperate attempt to give the free market health care system a chance to work. The scarcity argument seems to me to be due to the extraordinary high cost of health care since the healthcare system turned into a for profit system. The scarcity of funds to pay $300 for an aspirin, or $12,000 for a months supply of drugs, that kind of thing. I think it is an artificial scarcity, an intentional scarcity created by those that profit from the healthcare system.

It seems to me a major argument against the ACA was the loss of freedom. I guess the same can be said about universal healthcare, or the single payer system. I think the argument is extreme. I base this, in part, upon the Freedom House index findings for 2017 that tell us 25 of 30 countries with universal healthcare systems have a higher freedom score than the USA.

Posted by: j2t2 at May 14, 2017 8:14 PM
Comment #416216
j2t2 grow up Dude. Obamacare has been failing from the very day it was passed.

Royal such a foolish statement. I know you aren’t one for facts but here is a more honest analysis of Obamacare for your perusal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/05/upshot/grading-obamacare-successes-failures-and-incompletes.html?_r=0


They needed waivers from the beginning to keep it alive despite stealing $800 Billion from Medicare.

Allowing waivers doesn’t mean Obamacare was a failure. Nor does it justify the sabotage of the risk corridors. Look the free market health care system was bankrupting people prior to Obamacare. It was a great attempt to justify continuing with a free market system for healthcare. It failed in that respect,IMHO. Not because it was Obamacare but because the for profit health care and health insurance industries are structured to seek maximum profit for the shareholders out of the system.


The failure has accelerated well before the Trump or Senate win.

Again the Rubio sabotage of Obamacare was well before the Trump or Senate win as well.

It is a favorite ploy of the Left to blame others for their heinous failures. Pouting, posturing and finger-pointing is what they do well.

IT seems conservatives, since they cannot deal with truth nor facts, have to resort to such nonsense as this Ad Hominem attack on others here on WB. Yes Royal it is time for you to grow up a bit.

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Comment #416217

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Posted by: Air Gunung Salak at May 15, 2017 11:52 AM
Comment #416218

One of the main reasons for such low support is the ability for States to individually veto the requirement for insurers not to charge people for have preexisting medical conditions

The states specifically do not have this ability. I still don’t know where this started and why people think it’s true, but never pass up a good story for facts I suppose…

Posted by: Kangen Water at May 15, 2017 11:54 AM
Comment #416223

NY Times. Honest. Those words used in the same sentence. *smh*

The world we live in…

Posted by: Rhinehold at May 15, 2017 3:24 PM
Comment #416224

Kangen Water

It’s a misreading of an amendment that wanna-be jr lawyers have run with. *shrug* It could easily be cleared up with a proper reading or insertion of ‘in case you weren’t aware…’ language in the bill.

The left isn’t about to let a good misreading go to waste though.

Posted by: Rhinehold at May 15, 2017 3:26 PM
Comment #416225

“The MacArthur amendment protects people with pre-existing conditions.

The amendment is very clear: Under no circumstance can people be denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Current law prohibiting pricing customers based on health status remains in place and can only be waived by a state if that state has chosen to take care of the people through other risk-sharing or reinsurance mechanisms. Even if a state asks for and is granted a waiver, no person may be priced based on health status if they have maintained continuous coverage. In addition to these protections, the AHCA provides significant resources at the federal and state level for risk-sharing programs that lower premiums for all people.”

Posted by: Rhinehold at May 15, 2017 3:30 PM
Comment #416243

Rhinehold,

A state can set up a high risk pool, receive a waiver from the ACA and fail to give the pool adequate funding. In that case, an individual with a pre-existing condition who has a lapse in coverage of 93 days loses all protection against price discrimination.

Posted by: Warren Porter at May 15, 2017 7:31 PM
Comment #416268

And if they do that, they violate federal law and are punished and forced to fully fund (and lose their waiver).

Posted by: Rhinehold at May 15, 2017 9:59 PM
Comment #416294
NY Times. Honest. Those words used in the same sentence. *smh*

The world we live in…

Rhinehold what in the article is dishonest? You attacking the messenger with a generalization instead of specifics on the link …well…The world we live in….

The general view held by conservatives is, according to Royal, Obamacare was a disaster from the start. Yet this hyperbole has been shown to be disingenuous IMHO. Better yet explain what the HoR crafted fixes anything other than the bank accounts of the wealthiest. Or do you prefer to wait until the final bill before rendering an opinion as KAP expects us to do?

Posted by: j2t2 at May 16, 2017 12:11 PM
Comment #416297
You attacking the messenger with a generalization instead of specifics on the link

No, I’m attacking the source for obvious bias that they have displayed for years. They are not honest. That doesn’t mean everything they print is wrong, but they aren’t following journalistic practices and it has been worse since the election season started last year, all pretense to journalism has been thrown out the window. I’m sure there are plenty of good writers on the staff still, but their editors have sold out.

The general view held by conservatives is, according to Royal, Obamacare was a disaster from the start.

It was, but maybe not for the reasons conservatives claim. I wouldn’t know not being a conservative. But any law that doesn’t respect individual rights is a disaster, period. I’m sure if we all had a central planning authority and everyone was making just want they need to live, everything would ‘work’. But it is a violation of the very thing it means to be an individual… State above Individual isn’t something I support, period.

Oh, and no I don’t support the AHCA (which I’ve stated several times but have to keep restating because people don’t actually listen to anything the other person on here says, they just look for things to try to wedge their political talking points into… Actual conversation and debate just doesn’t exist here or for that matter much of anywhere else anymore).

And no, the AHCA is just as flawed as Obamacare was and for the same reasons. For one it doesn’t respect individual rights and secondly it doesn’t get rid of the actual problem, people paying for normal healthcare via insurance. The middleman is still there, taking away the consumer’s motivations to live a healthy life and make smart financial choices, most people paying more than they would have if they had just paid directly AND participating in the scam that is modern health insurance. Because of the insurance programs, and that includes Medicare/Medicaid, doctors spend a third of their times ‘negotiating’ and getting pennies on the dollar, which is why they charge so much for their services. Same with pharmaceutical companies. Take out the middlemen and the game that gets played and healthcare costs would decrease. How do we know? Because many doctors are opting out of insurance all together now, and offering services at a fraction of what other doctors are having to charge. Not that people actually investigate the cost savings because ‘they’re not paying for it’. It’s mindless.

And now, going to single payer doesn’t solve that problem, it just exacerbates it. In addition, it adds POLITICS into healthcare and all you have to do is look around to how things are today to see that politics in healthcare is the worse idea in the world. Just as we should be seeing progressives who wanted to sit by and watch Obama expand the power of the President now realizing the error of that thinking, they still delude themselves into thinking that if we just keep the right people in office all the time, we’ll all be fine and it will work out beautifully. But you can’t ensure that, can you?

The *one* good thing about a Trump presidency is that people may actually wake up to realizing that limiting the power of government has merit because you never know when some megalomaniac is going to get elected… I doubt people will ‘get it’ since they are so locked into the echo chambers and partisanship that they can’t think outside of what their leaders tell them to think, but hey, I can still hope yeah?

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