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Trump's Singing The 'Nomination Blues'

The fun never ends when it comes to the shenanigans of the trump administration. Everyday several controversies erupt and the media at times doesn’t know which incident to exploit. The social media vines are blasting with commentary at every move Trump’s people make and the fact his nominees keep dropping out is a sign that Trump loves to court chaos as he wins at every turn.

What's that? Wins? Yes, wins. Trump loves publicity he's a master at manipulation. Even his errors are profitable and he orchestrates them with finesse. Trump is taking on so many issues at once that he can't possibly effectively initiate or maintain them with top efficiency. He has his real agendas he's nursing along but if he can sway the public via the media away from scrutinizing his real desires, he'll slide in on home when no one least expects it.

So far he's had half a dozen nominees to top cabinet posts bow out. The running gag reason is because they feel they wouldn't be able to skirt around business ethics issues. That should be a red flag warning right there. If these people are worried about business ethics then whom are they doing business with? Are we subjected to their unethical practices? All Trump has done is the FBI and Justice Department's jobs. He's picking the bad guys and putting them up in front of the world and the light of the Sun is exposing them for what they are. Slick one Donald.

At present, there are people who had hoped to be nominated by Trump, but now they're having second thoughts. Trumps spotlight means a level of scrutiny that can upend applecarts. It's become comical every step of the way. Political satirists are having a field day thanks to Trumps antics and there hasn't been a president so parodied since Richard Nixon. Trump's generating capital and attention and everyone is benefiting from it especially the Democrats!

Yes, the Democrats haven't had this much action since who knows when. When the final ally comes up, Trump will have a new cabinet, yet how effective they'll be is a big question that only the future will tell.

Posted by GregB at February 28, 2017 1:20 PM
Comments
Comment #413939

When Trump succeeds the Democratics are going to realize how ineffectual and destructive they’ve been at governing.

Just by being elected Trump has given people the hope Democratics have been beating out of the people of this country. That, in itself, is an excellent reason to do away with the Democratic party. By their own results they have proven they can’t govern.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 1, 2017 8:56 AM
Comment #413941

While I thought the president’s speech last night was pretty damn good, expectations were pretty damn low. If he can start to govern and work with both parties with the same professionalism and class that he showed last night then indeed things are looking up. But to be honest anybody can pull off a 60 minute speech likely written by someone else. Its the unscripted Trump who tells it like it is that worries people. So all in all I thought his speech hit all the right notes, hopefully this is the pivot many of us have been waiting for. Time will tell.

Posted by: Paul at March 1, 2017 9:16 AM
Comment #413944

Trump is a 90s moderate democrat, and more and more normal American’s will tire of these hyperbolic protests and riots by the far-left extremists.

Posted by: kctim at March 1, 2017 9:37 AM
Comment #413959

kctim,

Proof by assertion doesn’t work. No moderate Democrat from the ’90s proposed replacing the current familial based legal immigration system with a meritocratic one.

Anyway, here’s some food for thought for my conservative friends:

Yesterday, House Speaker Paul Ryan boasted that his party would follow a deliberate, transparent process to repeal and replace Obamacare. “This is how the legislative process is supposed to be designed,” he told the Today show. “We’re not hatching some bill in a backroom and plopping it on the American people’s front door.” Today, House Republicans made it known that they will release their plan tomorrow and that it will only be made available to House Republicans. Representative Chris Collins tells the Washington Examiner the plan “would be made available Thursday morning to Republicans in a basement room of an office building that adjoins the Capitol.”

How did we get to this place where leaders could straight up lie to the American people like this?

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 1, 2017 6:14 PM
Comment #413960

Oops, I forgot to link my source.

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 1, 2017 6:24 PM
Comment #413962

Are you forgetting the lies the Democratics told the American People, Warren Porter? Such a short memory!

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 1, 2017 7:11 PM
Comment #413967

WW,

Do two wrongs make a right?

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 1, 2017 8:20 PM
Comment #413971

Michael Flynn resigned earlier this month because he lied to Mike Pence regarding his conversations with Sergey Kislyak. Following in Flynn’s footsteps, we learned tonight that Jeff Sessions lied in sworn testimony to Congress.

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 2, 2017 12:19 AM
Comment #413972

Warped, Did you read the article you linked to? If you did you would have read that Jeff did indeed meet with the Russian ambassador as well as other foreign dignitaries in his capacity as Senate armed services committee member, NOT as a Trump campaign member. So did he actually lie to the conformation committee, NO!

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at March 2, 2017 1:58 AM
Comment #413977

No, Warren Porter, it doesn’t. But you should be apologizing to the American People for your party’s lies before you start throwing accusations around.

“Let he who is free from sin cast the first stone.”
“Those who live in glass houses should not throw rocks.”
“Keep your own doorstep clean.”

You would be the first to defend the making of the sausage in D.C. if it were Democratics in charge. This petty gotcha politics is getting old.


Posted by: Weary Willie at March 2, 2017 8:05 AM
Comment #413979
in his capacity as Senate armed services committee member

Adam Entous, Ellen Nakashima and Greg Miller write:

The Washington Post contacted all 26 members of the 2016 Senate Armed Services Committee to see whether any lawmakers besides Sessions met with Kislyak in 2016. Of the 20 lawmakers who responded, every senator, including Chairman John McCain (R-Ariz.), said they did not meet with the Russian ambassador last year. The other lawmakers on the panel did not respond as of Wednesday evening.

“Members of the committee have not been beating a path to Kislyak’s door,” a senior Senate Armed Services Committee staffer said, citing tensions in relations with Moscow. Besides Sessions, the staffer added, “There haven’t been a ton of members who are looking to meet with Kislyak for their committee duties.”

If meeting with Kislyak was a duty of someone on the Armed Services Committee, other Senators (particularly Chairman McCain) would have done the same. Because none of these other Senators were involved, we can conclude that Sessions’ meeting was in his capacity as a Trump surrogate and not in his capacity as a US Senator.

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 2, 2017 9:28 AM
Comment #413983

When Jeff Sessions attends the Republican National Convention, is he acting in his capacity as a Senator, or is he acting as a Trump campaign surrogate:

On the first day of the Republican National Convention, the Heritage Foundation hosted a panel conversation addressing European relations that was attended by a number of ambassadors. “Much of the discussion focused on Russia’s incursions into Ukraine and Georgia,” moderator Viktor Ashe later wrote, adding that “[s]everal ambassadors asked for names of people who might impact foreign policy under Trump.” This appears to be the event after which Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak approached Sessions as part of a small group of foreign dignitaries. Sessions, The Post reports, “then spoke individually to some of the ambassadors, including Kislyak.”

Sessions Timeline

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 2, 2017 9:43 AM
Comment #413984

“IF” is a big word Warped, Sessions also met with other ambassadors according to the article you linked. So because he met with the Russian ambassador he Recuses himself from the investigation, if there is one. So far NOTHING has been found out of the ordinary or ILLEGAL. Get over it you lost.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at March 2, 2017 9:44 AM
Comment #413985

After Sessions who is going to be next on the Democrat “Hit Parade”? All this is to me is Democrats just want to avoid doing the work of the people and waste time with frivolous BULLS**T all because Hillary lost and Democrats are being cry babies.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at March 2, 2017 10:13 AM
Comment #413989

Rich KAPitan-
Sessions told the senate flat out that the Trump Campaign had no contacts with the Russians, that he had not communicated with them. That was a lie. Lying to Congress is against the law. Nobody forced him to. He chose to.

Quit hiding behind this theory of envy. WE might have an interest in seeing Trump fall, but the nation also has an interest in being told the truth, in having an election system free from interference from foreign powers. If the facts say that Trump or Sessions or others are covering up for bad behavior, appropriate action and investigations need to be made. If you want Republicans to remain in the majority, they’d better get on it now before the other shoe drops.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at March 2, 2017 11:32 AM
Comment #413994

Stephen, Where is your proof that the Russian interfered with the campaign and that the Trump people had any part in it? Sessions did NOT lie, I read the article. Franken asked if he or others had any contact with the Russian ambassador in his capacity as a Trump adviser, Franken did not ask him if he had contact with the Russians in his capacity as a Senator, which I stated he did indeed have contact with the Russians and a number of other governments. So get your facts straight Stephen because you are making yourself look foolish.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at March 2, 2017 11:55 AM
Comment #413999

KAP,
Sessions lied to Congress.

Furthermore, he made this contact, and held a PRIVATE meeting with a known Russian spy, yet did not recuse himself until this matter became public. As a matter of professional integrity he was REQUIRED to recuse himself.

He should resign.

Three questions: 1) Why did he twice meet with a known Russian spy in the first place? 2) What did they talk about? 3) Why did he conceal it?

Here is the exchange with Senator Franken:

FRANKEN: “…if there is any evidence that anyone affiliated with the Trump campaign communicated with the Russian government in the course of this campaign what will you do?

SESSIONS: Sen Franken, I am not aware of any of those activities. I have been called a surrogate at a time or two in that campaign, and I did not have communications with the Russians, and I am unable to comment on it.”

“SEN. PATRICK J. LEAHY: Several of the President-elect’s nominees or senior advisers have Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after election day?” the Vermont Democrat asked in a questionnaire.

SESSIONS: No.”

Posted by: phx8 at March 2, 2017 12:25 PM
Comment #414000

Warren,

“No moderate Democrat from the ’90s proposed replacing the current familial based legal immigration system with a meritocratic one.”

No moderate Democrat from the ’90s proposed ignoring immigration laws, either. That’s pretty much what made them moderates. Their willingness to work with others to actually address an issue, rather than demand lock-step thinking to force a position, as we have today.

Posted by: kctim at March 2, 2017 12:27 PM
Comment #414002

phx8, When Sessions had contact with the Russian ambassador and others as a SENATOR is classified, they could have been discussing their grand children. The question they were asking were about if he had contact with the Russians about the election or campaign which he said NO. They did NOT ask if he had contact with the Russians in his capacity as a SENATOR, so he DID NOT LIE! In his working with the campaign I would expect that he would recuse himself if there were a DOJ investigation. It is also coming out that McCaskill also had contact with the Russians as a member of the S.A.F.C. not sure if this is true or not but it also is worth looking into.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at March 2, 2017 12:54 PM
Comment #414006

Rich Kapitan-
Why do you assume it was classified information?
Why do you insult our intelligence with an argument from ignorance that also leaves open the possibility of less savory conversations than the grandkids?

The Question was NOT about whether he had contact with or communications with the Russians. He denied both to avoid answering the question of what he or the campaign would do if it were discovered people had contact with them.

As he has volunteered that the contact did occur by trying to rationalize it in terms of his duties, he acknowledges that while he told the committee in question, under oath, that he did not have contact or communications, he most definitely did. McCaskill had her contact as part of a group, and publicly tweeted about it. Sessions had a private talk that he did not disclose.

Oh, and the standard practice with classified information is to neither confirm nor deny, as either can alert foreign concerns about the nature of our classified secrets.

Why conceal it? Why the shame? It’s a strange reaction, and a criminal act to boot. But you’re all too willing to make excuses when the ball is in your court.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at March 2, 2017 1:08 PM
Comment #414007

KAP,
We do not know what Sessions and the Russian Ambassador discussed in their private meeting, however, Sessions lied about this. Read the written exchange with Leahy again.

“SEN. PATRICK J. LEAHY: Several of the President-elect’s nominees or senior advisers have Russian ties. Have you been in contact with anyone connected to any part of the Russian government about the 2016 election, either before or after election day?” the Vermont Democrat asked in a questionnaire.

SESSIONS: No.”

Sessions should recuse himself. Most Republicans are already calling for that. He also needs to explain why he lied, and why he did not bring this forward before being confronted by the press. A lot of other people think he should resign. Maybe this is a case of the cover up being worse than the crime, but still, this is important. Sessions lied under oath, aloud and in writing. He should resign.

Posted by: phx8 at March 2, 2017 1:09 PM
Comment #414010

Stephen, In the capacity as Senator and Ambassador their conversation is classified even if it is about their grand children until it is de classified. By the way I never said they discussed classified material, but as all government officials conversations are considered classified between the officials. Do you tell everyone who you talk daily or in your job capacity?
phx8, Did Sessions talk about the election in the meetings with the Russian and the rest of the Ambassadors he admitted to talks with in his capacity as SENATOR? Leahy asked about the campaign NOT Sessions Senatorial actions.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at March 2, 2017 1:28 PM
Comment #414011

I just want to say how proud I am of the Trump apologist in this thread. Twenty plus comments and not one fake news, Obama/Clintons fault excuse. Keep it up guys.

By allowing lies to become the norm in politics the bar get set lower and lower. Transparency doesn’t mean get caught lying IMHO. Conservatives complained of a lack of transparency for years yet now they are in control of the government they have backed off this requirement. Why is that? WHat is so hard about the Sessions issue, he is lying and he got caught, is that how we make America great again? If not time to clean out the cesspool err um swamp isn’t it? I mean if he wasn’t hiding it why not tell the confirmation hearing what it was about, talking about grandkids or whatever? Denial runs strong in this bunch. If the plan is to make friends with Russia why not some transparency what is there to hide?

Best one liner in this thread has to be “Trump is a 90s moderate democrat, and more and more normal American’s will tire of these hyperbolic protests and riots by the far-left extremists.” The deflection is amazing. People attending town hall meetings asking questions are protestors!! Zeig Heil. Yep the same Americans who a few short years ago protested themselves are now against protesting to the point of make it a racketeering crime!

Anyway a tip of the hat to my conservative friends on the accomplishment. My concern is Trump is going to get impeached and we will be left with Pence. You guys on the Trump train need to get the train in order not make excuses or your elected representatives will pull the plug on him.

Posted by: j2t2 at March 2, 2017 1:42 PM
Comment #414016

Because none of these other Senators were involved, we can conclude that Sessions’ meeting was in his capacity as a Trump surrogate and not in his capacity as a US Senator.

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 2, 2017 9:28 AM

What a wonderful “if-then” conclusion. Perfect textbook example of logic gone awry. Who is the royal “we” you use Warren?

Posted by: Royal Flush at March 2, 2017 2:48 PM
Comment #414018

I have not heard such trivial banter since I was in grade school on the playground. “Yes he did”, “No he didn’t” “I double dog dare you” “I can pee farther than you can”

Not a single writer in this thread knows the facts, and yet, all act as great students of law and government.

Posted by: Royal Flush at March 2, 2017 3:00 PM
Comment #414020
What a wonderful “if-then” conclusion.

Strange, none of my comments contain the words “if” or “then”.

Not a single writer in this thread knows the facts
In case you haven’t noticed, no one is chanting “lock him up”. Nobody save of Sessions and Kislyak knows incontrovertibly what happened in those two meetings. However, the revelations that have come about certainly do not pass the sniff test and warrant further independent investigation. Posted by: Warren Porter at March 2, 2017 3:16 PM
Comment #414021

Warped, I don’t know about a sniff test but if you and others want to have an independent investigation, go for it. So far all other investigations have turned up nothing.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at March 2, 2017 3:22 PM
Comment #414022

Royal Flush-
Can’t come up with an argument, it seems.

Rich Kapitan-
I’m not aware of any law that makes the conversations between government officials automatically classified information, unless special circumstances were applied. and if that were the case, Sessions could request a special venue to share that information with those who were cleared for it. There was no need to issue a false denial, especially to a couple of senators. No need, unless admitting to the conversation could open up a can of worms he’d rather not see squirm out.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at March 2, 2017 3:27 PM
Comment #414023

“Strange, none of my comments contain the words “if” or “then”.”

LOL…OK Warren; I do not intend to spar with a straight-jacket mind.

Posted by: Royal Flush at March 2, 2017 3:29 PM
Comment #414024

You lied Warped comment # 413979 contains the word “IF”.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at March 2, 2017 3:35 PM
Comment #414025

Sessions called for an independent prosecutor & recusal when Bill Clinton met with AG Lynch. Sessions was quite fired up about it.

Sessions had a professional and possibly legal obligation to recuse himself right from the start. He should have been up front about the private meeting with a known Russian spy on September 8th. To put that meeting into context, it came at a time when this op-ed piece was published:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-russia-could-spark-a-us-electoral-disaster/2016/09/08/303f8502-75e2-11e6-b786-19d0cb1ed06c_story.html?utm_term=.9515ff553fc0

Pretty remarkable stuff. The point is, Russian interference in the election was very much in the headlines at that time, and there was Sessions, a Trump campaign surrogate, meeting with the Russian Ambassador.

He had an obligation to answer the questions truthfully, but to Franken when asked aloud, and in writing when asked by Leahy. He should have recused himself on his first day as AG. Now he has been caught lying. Time to go.

Posted by: phx8 at March 2, 2017 3:36 PM
Comment #414027
You lied Warped comment # 413979 contains the word “IF”.

I did a ctrl-f search for the regex ” if “. The space in front of the regex made me miss “if” appearing at the beginning of a line. It was a blunder on my part. I regret the mistake and apologize to Royal Flush for the unfair rebuttal to his comment.

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 2, 2017 3:49 PM
Comment #414029

Thank you Warren. Simple mistake, I make them all the time.

Posted by: Royal Flush at March 2, 2017 3:54 PM
Comment #414030

Hallelujah! Jeff Sessions will recuse himself from the ongoing investigation regarding Trump’s alleged links with Russia.

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 2, 2017 4:14 PM
Comment #414032

Hallelujah! Dr. Carson and former governor Rick Perry receive senate approval for cabinet positions.

Posted by: Royal Flush at March 2, 2017 4:51 PM
Comment #414033

Sessions recused. This opens the way for an independent prosecutor, or an independent select committee.

RF,
Here is what Trump said about Carson:

“He wrote a book and in the book, he said terrible things about himself. He said that he’s pathological and he’s got basically pathological disease … I don’t want a person that’s got pathological disease.”

And…

“I said that if you’re a child molester, a sick puppy, a child molester, there’s no cure for that - there’s only one cure and we don’t want to talk about that cure, that’s the ultimate cure. No there’s two, there’s death and the other thing. But if you’re a child molester, there’s no cure, they can’t stop you. Pathological, there’s no cure.”

Rick Perry’s predecessors were physicists with doctorates and Nobel Prize winners, because heading the DOE means knowing all things nuclear. The previous one advised Obama on whether the terms of the Iranian agreement would actually prevent development of a nuclear weapon. It is a position that requires real, very important expertise. Perry is utterly unfit for that position.

Posted by: phx8 at March 2, 2017 5:22 PM
Comment #414034

Rick Perry approved by senate in a vote of 62 to 37. What do these senators know that phx8 doesn’t?

Dr. Ben Carson approved by senate in a vote of 58 to 41. I believe he will do an admirable job.

Posted by: Royal Flush at March 2, 2017 5:29 PM
Comment #414035
What do these senators know that phx8 doesn’t

They know that if they rock the boat too much, they won’t get their precious legislation passed.

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 2, 2017 5:36 PM
Comment #414036

I applaud the Trump White House for disclosing the existence of a meeting between Michael Flynn, Jared Kushner and Sergey Kislyak last year. The American people deserved this sort of transparency at the very start of the Trump Presidency, but it’s better late than never, I guess.

Posted by: Warren Porter at March 2, 2017 5:40 PM
Comment #414053

When you consider the treatment Sessions got when he was nominated for a justice position, it’s no wonder the Democratics think they can do a repeat performance on him now.

If history is any indication, we’ll see the Democratics bitch and whine until Sessions is covered in tar and feathers. Then, in two or three years after everyone forgets about it, we’ll see an obscure article in the back of a newspaper saying Sessions wasn’t guilty after all.

Posted by: Weary Willie at March 3, 2017 8:56 AM
Comment #414074

Weary Willie-
Right, we need to stop bothering you about potential subversion of our democratic process (see how I used the word in its proper adjective form?) because it hurts your feelings. So unfair, being expected to tell the truth to Congress and not try to mislead them for political benefit.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at March 3, 2017 2:43 PM
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