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A Bowl Of Confusion

That’s what we can say about the Trump administration. No one in the known universe can figure out what is going on and Trump is probably more confused than the public, press, and government. Trump has upended so many apple carts in the first few weeks of his administration that no one knows what is going on nor what he’ll do next. He’s signed dozens of executive orders and gone off after previous laws, enacted his anti immigration policies and is now embroiled in a scandal involving he Russians. His daughter lost top endorsements to main manufacturers of her clothing lines because of the manufacturer’s protests of Trump’s policies. Numerous press and politicians have been insulted by Trump, there are still riots in the streets and chaotic protests. All this while North Korea is firing off new solid propulsion missiles. It all seems like one could go dizzy just reading or watching the evening news.


Trump is spending most of his time tossing around rhetoric that doesn't fit the facts. At every turn he utters some of the most absurd observations and invalidations toward anyone who questions him or backs him up against a wall to tell the truth. Trump has uttered so many falsehoods, that his mental health has come into question. The public is is getting antsy about Trump as far too many remember the Cold War and the tension and anxiety that decades long conflict elicited. Now we have done a 360 degree turn right back to being enemies of Russia and a call for a military build up. The US cannot afford more military build ups. After 12 years of fruitless wars in the Middle East, it's time the US realized that this foolishness must end.

The American people who voted for Trump did so for various reasons. If Trump's agendas go unchecked we'll not only be involved in another idiotic war but there might be a draft and if that occurs, you can bet the streets will be full of Millennials screaming bloody murder. America is a war based country. There has only been a few years when the US was not involved in a war. The US somehow, some way will meander to war in order to fix any problem and the military is so bloated that it's confusing no end.

Posted by GregB at February 24, 2017 2:23 PM
Comments
Comment #413712

Today CNN, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, Politico, and BuzzFeed were blocked from attending the daily press briefing.

I know I have already said it many times, but remember- the first target of a dictator is the free press.

Posted by: phx8 at February 24, 2017 3:25 PM
Comment #413721

Breitbart, the Washington Times and One America News Network were permitted to cover the question-and-answer session along with a number of major news organizations including ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, Reuters, Bloomberg and McClatchy.

While the Associated Press and Time magazine were granted access into the gaggle, both outlets refused in protest.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/02/24/white-house-blocks-multiple-news-outlets-from-press-briefing/21721210/

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 24, 2017 4:11 PM
Comment #413722

Have the Left discovered a method of making an omelet without breaking any eggs?

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 24, 2017 4:18 PM
Comment #413723

I just love Ted Cruz’s description of the Democrat base.

“bat crap crazy”

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 24, 2017 4:24 PM
Comment #413724

The news organizations being blackballed are the ones using leaks to write stories about the Russians & Trump.

This is the direct result of the GOP refusal to set up an independent commission to study the election interference by the Russians. They tried to hide it in committee. The House Intel Committee will not even look into it. A bipartisan select committee could have put this story to rest in two months, one way or the other.

Now we have the Trump administration declaring the media are “the enemy of the American people.” They are at war with the Intelligence Community and apparently their own White House staff, which was cited as the source for the story about Reince Preibus attempting to influence the Assistant Director of the FBI to knock down the story.

Posted by: phx8 at February 24, 2017 4:25 PM
Comment #413726

Geez, I wonder why this administration doesn’t just scream ‘racist’ to get their desired results? It worked like a charm for the last administration.

Posted by: kctim at February 24, 2017 4:59 PM
Comment #413727

My Lefty Pals are gleefully slobbering all over themselves with current low approval ratings for President Trump. OK, I don’t mind. They have precious little else to ease their pain.

The single largest positive response to a polling question pre-election was; we want “change”.

It is much too early for Trump to claim any legislative triumph change although our Pals on the Left expect these to be done immediately if they are to be done at all.

President Trump has eliminated many harmful regulations whose effect will be felt in the months to follow. Americans want “change” immediately and as these changes take place, Trump’s popularity will rise.

Popularity polling in the months preceding the 2018 election will be telling and interesting.


“According to the RealClearPolitics average, Trump’s personal approval rating was 58.5 percent disapprove, 37.5 percent approve on the day he was elected president. In exit polls that day, 60 percent said they had an unfavorable opinion of Trump, versus 38 percent favorable. A candidate with a disapproval rating around 60 managed to win Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and other key states on his way to winning 306 electoral votes and the presidency.”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2615631#!

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 24, 2017 5:50 PM
Comment #413728

The Left/Progressive/Socialist cabal considers Chicago and Illinois as examples of their superior governance. GregB would not find “A bowl of confusion” here.

I ask the rest of us, those who believe in God, to pray for this city and state. Only a miracle will save them.

“Decades of mismanagement, lavish spending programs, and kowtowing to public employee unions have left the city’s finances in shambles. Taxes and fees in the city are skyrocketing, while its bond status has been reduced to junk. Despite all this, voters have continued to reward just one party with power. Democrats have run the city of Chicago since before Franklin Roosevelt was president.

Outside of Chicago, things are no better, even if they’re a bit more bipartisan. Of Illinois’ last four governors, two (Republican George Ryan and Democrat Rod Blagojevich) went to prison. (Two others, Otto Kerner and Dan Walker, both Democrats, also spent time in the slammer.)”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/02/24/ilexit_time_to_pull_the_plug_on_a_failed_state_133181.html

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 24, 2017 6:10 PM
Comment #413733

Hey! Look at what I found. It’s good thing Americans got a chance to see this before Trump’s political appointees got a chance to scrub it of any useful information.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 24, 2017 8:02 PM
Comment #413736

To my conservative friends, this is all the left has. They control 5 liberal states, some of which are in a state of collapse. They have no other governmental control. They depend on a liberal activist judiciary to try to create legislation and they depend upon their faithful allies, the liberal press to spread their venom. What else do they have? Nothing. The Democratic Party is in a complete state of disrepair. Yet they try the same old game of blaming republicans for the very problems they have. A bowl of confusion, that’s laughable. They have 25 Senate seats up in 2018. And no idea how to hold on to them.

Trump is accomplishing his goals. He told the American people what he wanted to do if elected, and he overwhelmingly won by the constitutional electoral votes. So the voters knew exactly what he wanted to do and they chose him. I know this breaks the lefts hearts, but such is life.

Posted by: Blaine at February 24, 2017 8:17 PM
Comment #413737

HAHAHA! Blaine you are so funny. 😂 😂 😂

The truth is that 8 years of obstruction has made your party incapable of governing now that the pendulum happens to have swung your way. Now, we are on the precipice of the GOP’s complete meltdown. I hope I don’t run out of popcorn…

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 24, 2017 8:27 PM
Comment #413738

So when Obama left office and one of his parting gifts was a list of 7 countries that were in such a state of chaos that it was impossible to vett its citizens; and the Trump administration makes decisions based upon Obama’s recommendations…this is wrong?

Oh, by the way, WP’s AP report says this very thing further in the article. Once you get away from the headlines.

Posted by: Blaine at February 24, 2017 8:29 PM
Comment #413741

Blaine,

You are back to your old lying tricks. Obama left Trump with a list of 7 countries that he prudently suspended from the visa-waiver program. Never was there any indication that it was impossible to vet those citizens. Indeed, James Comey and Jeh Johnson have repeatedly testified to Congress and explained the extensive scrutiny subjected upon refugees seeking resettlement in the United States.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 24, 2017 8:57 PM
Comment #413743

The situation with the Trump administration & Russia keeps getting worse. According to the WaPo, the White House engaged some members of Congress for a leak campaign:

“The calls were orchestrated by the White House after unsuccessful attempts by the administration to get senior FBI officials to speak with news organizations and dispute the accuracy of stories on the alleged contacts with Russia.”

At this point it has not been verified, but supposedly the people making those calls to the WaPo were Senator Burr, Republican, and Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee; Congressman Nunes, Republican, and Chair of the House Intel Committee; and Pompeo, Director of the CIA.

This means both the Executive and Legislative branches have been compromised and can not be trusted to conduct their investigations.

Meanwhile, Deputy Director McCabe and White House Chief of Staff Reince Preibus discussed the investigation into Russian involvement in the election & collusion with the Trump campaign. This conversation should not have been allowed to happen during an ongoing investigation. It may be illegal. Comey may have been involved in the same conversation.

Posted by: phx8 at February 24, 2017 10:36 PM
Comment #413746
It is much too early for Trump to claim any legislative triumph change although our Pals on the Left expect these to be done immediately if they are to be done at all.

“On day one I will repeal Obamacare” !! Seems you guys fell for the lie, I mean 43 attempted repeals in Congress and they dont have a plan!! Conservatives making government small one lie at a time.

On the Mein Furher side the Trump has worked hard on the false narratives to eliminate all but the bait click press and their fake news from working. Zeig Heil my conservative friends.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 25, 2017 9:53 AM
Comment #413747
the White House engaged some members of Congress for a leak campaign

Phx8, I am aghast! I thought this administration hated leaks? Alas, such rank hypocrisy is only par for the course for the American Right.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 10:07 AM
Comment #413748
This means both the Executive and Legislative branches have been compromised and can not be trusted to conduct their investigations.

The good news is that vulnerable Republicans in swing districts are beginning to wise up. Darrell Issa says we need a special prosecutor and he knows a thing or two about the House Oversight committee. Senate Republicans are weighing their options and it seems like the attempt to cover for Trump isn’t going to work. Hopefully we can get a bipartisan select committee with subpoena power created just like what was done with Benghazi.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 10:14 AM
Comment #413749

Meanwhile conservatives in Arizona are doing their best to further suppress 1st amendment rights! Zeig Heil my conservative friends, wrapped in an American Flag and carrying a cross conservatism.


http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/plan-a-protest-lose-your-house-arizona-senate-passes-sb-1142-charging-provocateurs-with-racketeering-9109154

Posted by: j2t2 at February 25, 2017 10:25 AM
Comment #413750

On ward through the fog….

Seems that our conservatives friends have started to realize the far right is a problem. So what do they do when Obama and Clinton aren’t around to blame for their excesses? Why…they just blame the rest of us.

http://www.salon.com/2017/02/24/watch-cpac-speaker-says-the-alt-right-is-actually-left-wing/

Yep Breitbart and the presidents brain, amongst other conservative propagandist outlets, embraced and glorified the “alt.right” and yet it is a liberal plot, that is the logic here.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 25, 2017 11:02 AM
Comment #413751

Senator Burr, Republican Chairman of the Senate Intel Committee, stated that he did in fact receive a call from the White House, and that he did contact the WaPo in an effort to knock down the NYT story about Trump campaign aides being in constant contact with the Russians.

So the White House is interfering with investigations by the FBI and the Senate. The House will not even do an investigation of Russian interference with the election.

And by the way, the leak about Preibus and the FBI Director and Assistant Director came from three WHITE HOUSE sources.

They say the cover up is worse than the original crime, but in this case, the original crime was plenty bad enough.
At this point there needs to be an independent prosecutor and/or an independent committee. The White House, the GOP, and perhaps the FBI can not be trusted to act in the best interests of the country. The Trump administration and the GOP believe they benefited from the Russian attack on our elections, and therefore, the Russians should be ignored. Trump and Republicans are putting party over country.

It would obviously be a good idea to put this behind them as soon as possible, because it will not go away by itself. Perhaps nothing actually happened? Perhaps. But they sure are acting like they are hiding something.

Posted by: phx8 at February 25, 2017 11:21 AM
Comment #413752

Well war has been declared on the MSM, and the 1st amendment by conservatives. This level of intolerance is just the beginning IMHO. Associating MSM and liberals with Mexican drug cartels and violent criminals, I think should secure Wayne LaPierre a spot on the short list for this years Goebbels award. It’s only Feb and from the looks of things competition will be particularly tough this year, but Wayne is working hard.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/what-no-zombies-at-conservative-confab-nras-lapierre-lists-threats-to-civilization-starting-with-the-media-202728570.html

So the liberty to not listen to real news will be saved from real news suppliers. Violent suppression of the opposition, and hey we did see this coming when Trump threatened Clinton during the election, and suppressing the press in the first month shows us the priorities of conservatives. Zeig Heil my friends.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 25, 2017 12:04 PM
Comment #413753
So the White House is interfering with investigations by the FBI and the Senate. The House will not even do an investigation of Russian interference with the election.

How can we expect the HoR to conduct an investigation into something like our new administration getting a few pointers on making America great again from Putin when they are so busy investigating Clinton and the ethics compliance guy. Remember phx8 ignorance is strength these days. It is easier to blame the press and the protestors than it is to investigate and it works… oh he**… Obama…. Clinton

Posted by: j2t2 at February 25, 2017 12:27 PM
Comment #413754
I ask the rest of us, those who believe in God, to pray for this city and state. Only a miracle will save them.

Royal, While you are asking God to save cities and states could you bring up Kansas and their self inflicted violence and fiscal insanity?

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/woman-in-custody-in-central-kansas-triple-shooting/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/kansas-budget/

OH and while you are at it… oh never mind one thing at a time right…

Posted by: j2t2 at February 25, 2017 12:41 PM
Comment #413758

“At this point it has not been verified, but supposedly…”

Wow phx8, one can’t be more fence-sitting than that. But, you swallow it my friend.

“I think should secure Wayne LaPierre a spot on the short list for this years Goebbels award.”

Sorry j2t2, that spot is already taken by Jew-hater par excellence Keith Ellison. Perhaps today he will be chosen to lead what is left of the Democrat Party. Many Lefty Pals will then be confident enough to fly the Nazi flag.

Alan Dershowitz wrote; “If he is elected, I will quit the party after 60 years of loyal association and voting. I will become an independent, continuing to vote for the best candidates, most of whom, I assume, will still be Democrats. But I will not contribute to the DNC or support it as an institution.

My loyalty to my country and my principles and my heritage exceeds any loyalty to my party. I will urge other like-minded people — centrist liberals — to follow my lead and quit the Democratic Party if Ellison is elected chairman. We will not be leaving the Democratic Party we have long supported. The Democratic Party will be leaving us!”

http://www.thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/national-party-news/321040-i-will-leave-the-democrats-if-keith-ellison-is-elected

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 2:33 PM
Comment #413760

j2t2, thank you very much for sharing the two links found in comment #54. I have no idea how either pertain to the catastrophic fiscal conditions in Chicago and Illinois.

Keep those links coming Pal.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 2:41 PM
Comment #413761

Royal Flush,

I must’ve missed the time when Keith Ellison refused to denounce the wave of antisemtic bomb threats against JCCs in this country. Could you share a link?

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 2:44 PM
Comment #413762

Thanks Warren. Your defense of Ellison is noted.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 2:48 PM
Comment #413763

It’s hardly a defense…

If Ellison was the sort of person who looks the other way when American Jews are threatened, then I would say the exact same thing as Alan Dershowitz.

Regardless, I prefer Pete Buttigieg to be the next DNC Chair, but that is just my opinion.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 2:55 PM
Comment #413764

RF,
“At this point it has not been verified, but supposedly…”

Wow phx8, one can’t be more fence-sitting than that. But, you swallow it my friend.”

I can now say it has been verified. It is fact. Both Senator Burr and Congressman Nunes say they were contacted by the White House and urged to go to the media with the story, about how the Assistant Director of the FBI told Preibus that the NYT story was baloney. Nunes says he saw nothing wrong with doing it. He saw nothing wrong about contacting the media with a story about an ongoing FBI investigation.

The MSM refused to run the story.

Either Preibus or the FBI Director & Assistant Director were lying. The Senate and House Intel committees can not be trusted to pursue this investigation. The FBI may be compromised too. And the worse they try to cover it up, the worse it gets.

Posted by: phx8 at February 25, 2017 3:07 PM
Comment #413765

Warren, your experienced back-pedaling is awesome.

Thanks for the update phx8. Your excellence in reporting this investigation is appreciated and we look forward to periodic updates.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 3:17 PM
Comment #413766

Meanwhile, I see no proof of Ellison’s silence amidst recent antisemitic incidents. I take your characterization of Mr. Ellison as “Jew-hater par excellence” as a gross lie unbefitting a man of your intellect.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 3:36 PM
Comment #413767

Take my opinion of Ellison any way you wish Warren. Defend him all you want. At least he is not the new chairman of the DNC. I can’t believe how close the vote was. The Democrat Party is in shambles.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 3:45 PM
Comment #413768

The close vote was only a testament to how strong each of the candidates were. As I said above, both men would do well as leader of the DNC.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 4:02 PM
Comment #413769

You bet Warren. I expect the Democrat Party to be lead off the cliff.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 4:05 PM
Comment #413770

RF,

We’ll wait and see. By the way, how’s that Obamacare repeal going? Already, it’s a month overdue…

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 4:18 PM
Comment #413771

Good news Warren, the president insists that a replacement be ready before repeal. I am pleased that congress is taking time to get the replacement right. I don’t expect them to use threats and bribes, as the Democrats did, to get their replacement passed. I can wait. I want a better plan, not a different plan.

Warren, is MMGW too settled for open debate?

“It’s time for some science Glasnost. New EPA Director Scott Pruitt has called for an open debate on climate science, rather than the name-calling and outright dishonesty of the past. Real science has nothing to fear from more openness and discussion, but everything to fear from more politicized dishonesty.”

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/is-global-warming-science-just-a-fraud/

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 4:56 PM
Comment #413772
I am pleased that congress is taking time to get the replacement right

If the past 6 years wasn’t enough time to craft a single alternative plan and unify behind it, why should we expect things to be different in the upcoming 6 months?

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 5:36 PM
Comment #413773

Warren, do you not want congress to take their time and get the replacement right to get bipartisan support?

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 5:41 PM
Comment #413774
Sorry j2t2, that spot is already taken by Jew-hater par excellence Keith Ellison.

Royal to be considered for the prestigious Goebbels award one must propagandize at a level such as LaPierre. Link to what you think qualifies Ellison but know the competition first don’t waste our time with nonsense.

I have no idea how either pertain to the catastrophic fiscal conditions in Chicago and Illinois.

Well I wish I could say I’m surprised Royal but I’m not.

Conservatives seem to have a hard time when it comes to facing the reality of conservative utopia.

Posted by: j2t2 at February 25, 2017 5:53 PM
Comment #413775

Sure. I’m just doubtful it can be done without abandoning the ideas from Paul Ryan’s Better Way or Price’s Empowering Patients First. It is becoming abundantly clear that Republicans face steep hurdles squaring this particular circle. Obamacare has never been more popular and none of their ideas seem to solve most people’s primary complaints with the ACA.

Regardless, it is startling that you entirely unconcerned with the intense lying that occurred by Republicans last year. If the plan always was to take extra time to create a workable bill, then why not say, “We promise to repeal Obamacare on Day 300, or however long it takes to write a bill”.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 6:01 PM
Comment #413776

“…why not say, “We promise to repeal Obamacare on Day 300, or however long it takes to write a bill”.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 25, 2017 6:01 PM

Hmmm…I suspect politics, but don’t hold me to that.

Here’s a SURPRISING quote Warren, from your Mother Jones link; “In other words, now that Obamacare is under serious attacks, more lefties are finally deciding it’s worth defending after all.”

Who could have anticipated polls would show Lefties defending obamacare?


Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 6:18 PM
Comment #413777
Hmmm…I suspect politics, but don’t hold me to that.
Look, I personally don’t have a problem with the slow timeline that Trump and the Congressional GOP have laid out. I do have a problem with the double standard whereby Donald Trump’s exaggeration is given a free pass, but Hillary Clinton was castigated as a liar for much smaller fibs.


Who could have anticipated polls would show Lefties defending obamacare?

Apparently not WatchBlog conservatives. For years, I’ve witnessed them claim that Obamacare was deeply unpopular. Throughout that entire period, WatchBlog liberals have repeatedly pointed out that these polls show that a good 10 or 15 percent of the electorate opposed Obamacare because they preferred a single payer law. Now that Republicans are in power, those people have changed their response when polled.

Posted by: Warren Dean Porter at February 25, 2017 6:27 PM
Comment #413778

Warren Dean Porter…can you seriously use “Trump free pass” and “Hillary Clinton castigated” in the same sentence without laughing out loud?

As I wrote before Warren; “Who could have anticipated polls would show Lefties defending obamacare?”

“The Washington Examiner, which received a preview of the survey, reported the national survey showed:

70 percent of respondents support repeal of Obamacare with a “modest transition period,” during which people keep their coverage while they wait for a new law to be in place.
32.1 percent – mostly Democrats – agreed a repeal would “make America sick again;” 64.8 percent of independents disagreed, as did 85.9 percent of Republicans.
54.1 percent favor complete repeal or major changes to Obamacare, including 61.6 percent of independents and 17.6 percent of Democrats.
Voters would support repeal of Obamacare by a margin of 68.9 percent to 25.2 percent – if disruptions were avoided.
Voters overwhelmingly support retaining Obamacare’s current prohibitions against refusing coverage for an existing medical condition, and allowing children under 26 to be covered by their parents’ insurance.

The poll’s margin of error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-schumers-make-america-sick-again-slogan-bombs/article/2611308


Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 6:48 PM
Comment #413780

Trump says he won’t attend White House Correspondents’ Dinner

I just read this. Hurrah for President Trump.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 7:09 PM
Comment #413781

Serious question for My Pals on the Left.

Now that the DNC has a new chairman, can you briefly state what changes you would like to see the Party pursue, to hopefully win more elections?

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 25, 2017 7:25 PM
Comment #413784

RF,
The DNC matters most in terms of organizing and recruiting candidates. They are nominally in charge of the party platform, but it really has not changed all that much, and that platform will adapt to the head of the ticket. The DNC is not so much about ideology as the nuts and bolts of setting up slates, fundraising, and coordinating. The chairman is a very important job, but it is not a glamorous one. Some chairs court the spotlight, others do not.

I thought that mayor from Indiana looked very promising.
We will be seeing more from him. Howard Dean endorsed him. Howard Dean was a very successful DNC chairman and in general a sharp guy.

The biggest challenge is to harness the energy of the base into a movement that votes in the midterms. The base has moved ahead of the party. People really, really dislike Trump, and they are very, very concerned about health care. Some of the Democratic politicians in place were willing to work with Trump. They are being forced to recognize that cooperation with Trump and the GOP in any way, shape, or form is unacceptable to the voters. The GOP sowed the wind for eight years with Obama. Now they are reaping the whirlwind. And less anyone think that is an exaggeration, the protesting crowds at town halls are literally twice the size of the Tea Party crowds, and no, they are not paid protestors, and no, they are not liberal activists bused in from some other state.

But none of that matters if they do not show up to vote, and that is where the chair of the DNC comes into the picture. Lopez has been dealt a great hand. Now he has to play it.

Posted by: phx8 at February 25, 2017 11:34 PM
Comment #413791
I thought that mayor from Indiana looked very promising.

For sure. Pete Buttigieg is gonna be the next representative from Indiana’s second congressional district.

Posted by: Warren Porter at February 26, 2017 9:23 AM
Comment #413810

Many thanks phx8 for your honest and reasoned judgement regarding the path of the Democrat Party.

The Democrat base is huge and diverse. I see little evidence that the base is united in its opposition to every thing the GOP may attempt in its legislative efforts.

A reasoned, beneficial and bipartisan replacement bill for Obamacare will attract votes from some Democrat legislators.

Efforts to reduce taxes on the working middle class will find some bipartisan support.

Plans to help curb violence in our large cities will be met with bipartisan approval as will the elimination of harmful regulations that serve no useful purpose.

I see many areas of mutual interest.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 26, 2017 3:17 PM
Comment #413813

RF,
I have no idea what will happen with health care reform. The GOP is divided between those who want to repeal, and those who want to repeal and replace, and even among the replacement plans there is little agreement. Boehner thought his party would never do anything, one way or the other. It would make sense to put in fixes to ACA, but even that divides the GOP- all this, and we haven’t even started talking about Democrats.

Tax reform would attract bipartisanship, but tax cuts might be tricky. The lost revenue would need to be covered, and that would require cuts to other programs. Tax cuts would preclude spending on infrastructure and other investments.

Personally, I see violence in cities as a state and local issue, and not one for the federal government.

The area for agreement that would make the most sense would be infrastructure. I always thought Obama made a strategic mistake by tackling health care reform first, rather than infrastructure. That is not to say health care reform was not needed, but that infrastructure investments would have paid off in a faster economic recovery and generated more positive political capital, and ultimately, there would also be an economic return on investment. The problem with infrastructure bills is that they turn into pork barrel boondoggles. Both parties do that. Furthermore, it would have to be paid for. Obama had the votes for deficit spending. Right now there is not a lot of appetite for racking up the deficits and debt, or paying for it with tax hikes.

Posted by: phx8 at February 26, 2017 4:05 PM
Comment #413814

Good analysis phx8, thanks. I agree that violence in cities is a state and local issue and a growing cancer.

And, I believe there is a limited role for the national government in providing support, both financial and legal. Together, ways must be found to deal with the growing influence and threat posed by organized gangs.

In the early 19th century, during prohibition, gangs were creating a great deal of violence and terrorizing the population. Gangs were able to buy judicial and police protection. It was difficult to get convictions in state courts. I suggest that the federal judiciary could help.

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 26, 2017 4:22 PM
Comment #413818

I agree with phx8’s analysis of the “healthcare first” mistake. I’ve said before that if the Democratics put an end to the slump in the economy and then tackled the health care changes they would have stayed in power for another 100 years.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 26, 2017 5:06 PM
Comment #413819

I post this link just for fun. Wall Street has ranked the best and worst run states in the union. Find out where your state ranks and why. Here’s the blurb on my state Texas ranking 7th.

“Over the last half decade, Texas has steadily risen in the ranking of best run states. Ranking 36th in 2010, Texas has climbed quickly over the years and is now ranked seventh.

Rapid population growth is often a bellwether of a well managed state. In the last five years, 1.2 million more people have moved to the Lone Star State than have left, the second largest net migration of any state in the country. The state’s economy accommodated the influx handily. Last year, only 4.5% of the Texas labor force was out of a job, lower than the 5.3% national unemployment rate. The state’s budget also appears well managed and relatively well equipped to weather an economic downturn. It has the highest possible credit rating from Moody’s and S&P. Also, the state has managed to save nearly a fifth of its total expenditures, a larger share of rainy day funds than all but two other states.”

http://247wallst.com/special-report/2016/12/06/the-best-and-worst-run-states-in-america-2/3/

Posted by: Royal Flush at February 26, 2017 5:08 PM
Comment #413856

Caught some news & part of a Spicer press conference this morning, and the takeaway is that the Trump administration and the GOP Congress have no idea what they are doing. There is no leadership. A lot of people want to do various things, but no one knows how to go about it, or what it will cost, or how to pay for it.

Posted by: phx8 at February 27, 2017 2:36 PM
Comment #413858

Royal Flush-
Complete disaster. That’s what Trump said. So did many other Tea Partiers.

Since then? Excuses and qualifications. They present themselves as a higher grade of leader, supposedly not politicians, but they sure lie and backtrack like politicians do.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at February 27, 2017 2:55 PM
Comment #413872

Yea, and Hillbilly is going to win in a landslide.

Posted by: Weary Willie at February 27, 2017 9:36 PM
Comment #413875

Great show by Rachel Maddow tonight on the web of connections between the Russian oligarchs & Trump. It is a little complicated, but here is a summary:

1. No American banks were willing to lend to Donald Trump. However, Deutsche Bank was willing.
2. Deutsche Bank was a favorite for money laundering by Russian oligarchs. They laundered $10 billion. The Obama administration fined Deutsche Bank $630 million for this.
3. The head of Deutsche Bank left to head another bank, and another favorite money launderer of Russian oligarchs: The Bank of Cyprus.
4. One of two major stockholders in Cyprus was an oligarch who arranged to buy a mansion in Florida from Trump. Two years earlier Trump purchased it for $40 million. He sold it to the oligarch for the largest price ever paid for an American residence- $100 million. The oligarch never met with Trump, never lived in the residence, never even saw it. This was essentially a $60 million giveaway at a time when Trump was in dire financial straits.
5. Guess who was the largest stockholder of the Cypriot bank? Wilbur Ross! He was just confirmed for Secretary of Commerce.

Also a lot of questions about Paul Manafort, who appeared out of nowhere to become Trump’s campaign manager. Manafort was well connected with the pro-
Russian Ukrainians.

Posted by: phx8 at February 27, 2017 10:27 PM
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