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The Inauguration of Donald Trump, the Biggest Show on Earth

It used to be said that the ‘Biggest Show On Earth’ was that of the now folding Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus. For over 150 years, this three ring venue has marveled audiences the world over with acts of wonder and death defying feats. Now, the biggest show is that of the 45th President of the United States Of America, Donald Trump.

Who would have thought a hustling, bragging, swaggering, real estate developer would bypass all blocks to gain the highest office in the land and do so with as much a circus atmosphere as the fabled Ringling Bros, Barnum and Bailey Circus.

Well, it's true and the pomp and circumstances are oozing out of Washington DC, much to the delight of millions. Trump knows how to put on a show, we'll grant him that. He could probably make a dental appointment look like a 10 piece orchestra. His supporters are relishing it all and the country's top performers are jamming it up at the event while Donald, his wife Melania and their brood dress to the nines looking like a fold out in a Park Avenue fashion magazine.

The celebrity firepower behind Trump is stellar. Heads of state and commerce all showed up in their Sunday best and the catering was nothing short of that for the feasting kings of legend.

The bling being displayed looks like something from an Indiana Jones movie and the security looks like the stormtroopers of Star Wars.

It was quite an event that lasted for days. America and the world had never seen anything like it before and it's more likely that the money generated is so huge we'll see regular galas that make the wealthy 1% happy.

This inauguration heralds a new age for the right-wing rich as they try to recreate the Reagan years. Even as history has shown the Reagan Administration engaged in crimes all over the place, you can't tell conservatives that anything was wrong with Trickle Down economics, Iran Contra, and more.

Trump on the other hand knows the old guard's game and they've had to play ball Trump's way and that may make this inauguration a signpost that change is really in the offering.

Posted by GregB at January 20, 2017 4:40 PM
Comments
Comment #412429

Our Constitutional Democratic Republic shined once again in the peaceful handing over of power. The celebration was appropriate and enjoyed.

President Trump’s inauguration speech has already been much analyzed, undergoing both praise and condemnation.

I believe his speech struck exactly the right tone to sum up the work he intends to accomplish that brought him to this high office.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 21, 2017 2:08 PM
Comment #412432

Conservative columnist George Will described the Trump speech as “the most dreadful inaugural address in history.”

Here was the real show stopper:

“But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists: mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation; an education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge; and the crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.

This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.”

It is believed to be the only time in history an American president used the word “carnage” in an address. Just. Wow. It does not even come close to jibing with reality. Portland, OR, does not have such hellish landscapes, never mind an education system “flush with cash.” This fall I spent time in downtown Cincinnati and northern KY and neither matched that dire description.

On the plus side for a certain group- wink, wink- Trump used the “America First” slogan in his speech. For those not familiar with American history, “America First” was the slogan for the pro-Nazi isolationists prior to WWII. So at least Trump made his Neo-Nazi supporters happy.

Some compared Trump’s speech to the one made by supervillain Bane in a Batman movie. When a lot of people think the president sounds like Bane, that is probably not a good thing.

The Inauguration drew 250,000 and its tv ratings were poor.
The Obama inauguration in 2008 drew 1.8 million, and the 2012 one drew a million.

The marches today in Washington D.C. drew over 500,000, twice as many as attended the inauguration. A march in Chicago drew 150,000, and other large marches took place in St Louis, Boston, L.A., and elsewhere. The D.C. protest march alone will be one of the largest in American history; combined with all the marches in other cities, it will almost certainly be the largest day of protest ever.


Posted by: phx8 at January 21, 2017 4:43 PM
Comment #412433

Oh, one other thing-
Every major media outlet- CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, and more- is giving the protests a lot of coverage, which is proper, considering this will go down as the largest day of protest in US history.

FOX is pretending it is not happening.

This is how the country ends up with so many misinformed people.

Posted by: phx8 at January 21, 2017 4:49 PM
Comment #412434

It is always entertaining to read the political comments and analyzing from our Pal phx8.

“…the crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.”

Is this not carnage? Does phx8 actually want to compare Portland with Chicago and similar hellhole inner-cities?

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 21, 2017 5:30 PM
Comment #412436
This is how the country ends up with so many misinformed people.
Posted by: phx8 at January 21, 2017 4:49 PM

Is phx8 talking about what’s in his comment?

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 21, 2017 6:10 PM
Comment #412437

phx8 ought to start a new band. Given he’s prone to count protesters he could name his band Countin’ Crybabies.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 21, 2017 6:11 PM
Comment #412438

RF,
Violent crime, including murders, is down. There have been dramatic drops in NY, LA, and Dallas. Chicago is a localized problem, and not representative of the country as a whole or the trend in general.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/dueling-claims-on-crime-trend/

Protest march in Seattle, 130,000. Protests in London, Paris, and elsewhere. 750,000 estimate for LA.

Trump claimed he estimated 1.5 million at his inauguration. No one, and I mean no one, backs up that claim. In a press conference Sean Spicer attacked the press over the estimates. It is one of those ‘who are you going to believe, me or your lyin’ eyes’ moments. I caught a little bit of the parade while I was working out. Trump was being driven past rows of empty stands.

In yet another attack on the media, Trump delivered a flat out lie:

“I have a running war with the media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on earth. They made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community. … exactly the opposite.”

It must be like “Men in Black” for Trump supporters. Trump somehow waves a neuralyser, a memory eraser, in front of them, and they instantly forget everything he ever said about the CIA.

And yet another reminder: the first target of an authoritarian is a free press.

Posted by: phx8 at January 21, 2017 6:29 PM
Comment #412439

“Violent crime, including murders, is down.”

Without bothering to check if this is true phx8, I ask you at what level does “carnage” become just plain murder and mayhem?

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 21, 2017 6:42 PM
Comment #412440

Incidentally phx8, while you take your solace in counting crowds, we, on the Right, take comfort knowing that all the levers of federal government power are beyond the reach of Liberals and Socialists.

And yet another reminder: the first target of an authoritarian is a free press.
Posted by: phx8 at January 21, 2017 6:29 PM

And your target appears to be “free speech”.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 21, 2017 6:55 PM
Comment #412442

Can we have a show of hands of those who object to President Trump’s declaration of “America First”.

For those sitting on the fence, we can discuss what he meant and what it might mean for Americans and the world.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 21, 2017 7:18 PM
Comment #412443

As the new Press Sec. told the media groups today “MISREPRESENTED” or in other words “FAKE” news that the left thrives on will NOT be tolerated. Now phx8, J2T2 will be in the grocery stores getting their news from there.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 21, 2017 7:33 PM
Comment #412445
I ask you at what level does “carnage” become just plain murder and mayhem?

In the 1980s, the homicide rate was more than twice what it is today. Was this carnage? Or mere murder and mayhem?

what he meant
It was a reference to the antiwar movement from 80 years ago which advocated isolationism and sympathized with Nazism. Posted by: Warren Porter at January 21, 2017 7:56 PM
Comment #412446

You fail to include the deaths from drug use Warped, that along with the homicides is “CARNAGE”. He did include that in his speech.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 21, 2017 8:06 PM
Comment #412447

KAP, The only thing Spicer demonstrated today is that there is no lie he won’t say if it helps his boss. His rant was one falsehood after another:

Spicer claimed that Trump’s inaugural was the first time white pallets were used to protect the National Mall’s grass.
It was a bald faced lie.

Spicer claimed the Metro carried 420,000 people on Friday.Another Lie.

As you can see, there is plenty of fake news, but it isn’t coming from the mainstream media.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 21, 2017 8:10 PM
Comment #412448

Warped, Were you there? Did you count the people? How many did the Metro line carry, did you count them? There was plenty of Fake BULLS**T coming from the MSM yesterday and today. What came out of the Liberal Media was a throwback to the Bush 43 era. So don’t give me your liberal BULLS**T that FAKE CRAP didn’t come out of the MSM, it was littered with it. I watched the whole thing.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 21, 2017 8:25 PM
Comment #412453

By the way Warped, with the lunatic leftist protestors burning a limo and breaking store windows those A**HOLES were probably the reason the crowds may have been less then expected. Those same A**HOLES are the ones that we see and represent your values and you wonder why you lose elections. Keep up the good work someday your education may pay off when you realize the crap you dismiss is hurting you.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 21, 2017 8:54 PM
Comment #412457
Warped, Were you there?
Yes. I live in Maryland and visiting the National Mall is a 20 minute ride on the Metro for me. Friday was a busy day, but today was simply unprecedented. But, my personal anecdotes are a terrible way to verify these things. That’s why we trust the mainstream media to report these things.
Did you count the people?
Did Spicer count them? No, he just made up numbers and told lies to the media. Meanwhile, anyone with two eyes and half a brain can look at a photograph and figure out which is bigger.
How many did the Metro line carry, did you count them
WMATA a href=”https://twitter.com/wmata/status/822482330346487810”>reports the numbers not me. Posted by: Warren Porter at January 21, 2017 9:18 PM
Comment #412459

Warped, The track record the MSM has now I wouldn’t trust them to count how many were at a sold out concert. Maybe the numbers weren’t as much as reported or more depending but we have to factor in WEATHER and the left wing lunatics that I mentioned in comment 412453 that said they were going to disrupt the event. Either way Trump is our president just like Obama was so we all need to put on our big boy pants and suck it up.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 21, 2017 9:31 PM
Comment #412461
The track record the MSM has now I wouldn’t trust them to count how many were at a sold out concert.

KAP,

You are so full of bullshit.

we have to factor in WEATHER

1/20/2009 had a high temperature of 28F. Compare with the much warmer weather we had in DC this week.

left wing lunatics
One isolated incident is a pathetic excuse. No one had any rational reason to fear for their safety apart from Richard Spencer.
Trump is our president
I never said otherwise.
we all need to put on our big boy pants and suck it up.
I think the Right needs to put its big girl panties on and stop blaming the MSM whenever the facts don’t conform with its preferred narrative. What a sad day you see you parroting the lies and misinformation emanating from Spicer’s mouth. Posted by: Warren Porter at January 21, 2017 10:29 PM
Comment #412465

Warped, I think we have more to worry about then crowed size and what pictures are true or not.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 10:14 AM
Comment #412468

The issue isn’t who gathered the larger crowd. The issue is the Trump administrations callous disregard for the truth. Ezra Klein has an excellent article describing how Trump needs to delegitimize the media in order to delegitimize the facts. It all comes back to Scottie Nell Hughes’ statement, “There’s no such thing as facts”. Trump and the Republican party are replacing absolute truth with moral relativism. It’s OK for Donald Trump to sexually assault women because Bill Clinton once had a consensual affair with a 22 year old woman. It’s OK for Donald Trump and his goons to lie six ways from Sunday because Hillary Clinton may not have remembered ever single detail of her email serve arrangement perfectly.

Obama said it best, “without some common baseline of facts; without a willingness to admit new information, and concede that your opponent is making a fair point, and that science and reason matter, we’ll keep talking past each other, making common ground and compromise impossible.”

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 10:58 AM
Comment #412470

The folks responsible for counting people at these events said they’re not counting people at these events any longer. There are no accurate counts coming from those who counted Obama’s inauguration.

The photos can also be taken at a time when people have not yet entered the area. There are queues that they needed to pass through. It’s not like they all came in at once. These photos you see may be of the first people entering the area. The rest are on the other side of the entrance area.

To put it all in a nutshell, we have the same situation we had during the campaign. You can’t believe the MSM.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 22, 2017 11:38 AM
Comment #412471
The folks responsible for counting people at these events said they’re not counting people at these events any longer.

While the National Park Service exited the crowd counting business after underestimating the crowd at the Million Man March 20 years ago, there are other professionals who havegladly taken their place .

The photos can also be taken at a time when people have not yet entered the area.
This is a convalidcern. But it is obvious you did not click on the linked photograph in comment #412457, where time stamps for each are clearly shown. Trump’s photo was taken at 11:04am and Obama’s was taken at 11:30am. One might blame the divergence on the twenty-six minute difference, but a photo taken at 12:09pm tells us that not much changed in that time.
To put it all in a nutshell, we have the same situation we had during the campaign. You can’t believe the MSM. Donald Trump
Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 12:09 PM
Comment #412473

Warped, What Weary said!!!

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 12:21 PM
Comment #412474

Warped, What Weary said!!!

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 12:22 PM
Comment #412475
The folks responsible for counting people at these events said they’re not counting people at these events any longer.

While the National Park Service exited the crowd counting business after underestimating the crowd at the Million Man March 20 years ago, there are other professionals who havegladly taken their place .

The photos can also be taken at a time when people have not yet entered the area.
This is a valid concern. But it is obvious you did not click on the linked photograph in comment #412457, where timestamps for each are clearly shown. Trump’s photo was taken at 11:04am and Obama’s was taken at 11:30am. One might blame the divergence on the twenty-six minute difference, but a photo taken at 12:09pm tells us that not much changed in that time.
To put it all in a nutshell, we have the same situation we had during the campaign. You can’t believe the MSM. Donald Trump
Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 1:15 PM
Comment #412476
The folks responsible for counting people at these events said they’re not counting people at these events any longer.

While the National Park Service exited the crowd counting business after underestimating the crowd at the Million Man March 20 years ago, there are other professionals who havegladly taken their place .

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 1:15 PM
Comment #412477
The photos can also be taken at a time when people have not yet entered the area.
This is a valid concern. But it is obvious you did not click on the linked photograph in comment #412457, where timestamps for each are clearly shown. Trump’s photo was taken at 11:04am and Obama’s was taken at 11:30am. One might blame the divergence on the twenty-six minute difference, but a photo taken at 12:09pm tells us that not much changed in that time.
To put it all in a nutshell, we have the same situation we had during the campaign. You can’t believe the MSM. Donald Trump
Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 1:16 PM
Comment #412478

Still a lot of people Warped, now can we get on to something besides crowds? Maybe after Monday there will be something significant to debate about,

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 1:21 PM
Comment #412479

KAP,

Still a lot of people Warped

I know, I said “Friday was a busy day” in Comment #412457.


now can we get on to something besides crowds? Maybe after Monday there will be something significant to debate about

I don’t actually care too much about the relative sizes of the crowd. What I care about is how cravenly Sean Spicer lies to the Press and the American people. Trump’s hardly been President and already he has demolished his credibility. Trump cannot successfully govern if people won’t trust him or his administration to tell the truth. People on the right (like you) need to hold his feet to the fire and get him to knock it off. I want Trump to succeed as much as every other American and he won’t get anything done if he continues this trajectory. Sycophancy is not a symptom of good leadership.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 1:33 PM
Comment #412480

Trump overpromised and underdelivered expectations for crowd size at his inaugural. He should have known better. The protest marches the following day did the opposite.

On one hand, crowd size does matter. It shows the level of support and enthusiasm behind a movement. And yes, there are a number of ways to verify crowd size, including time stamped photographs, eye witness accounts, metro ridership, buses, and so on. On the other hand, the size of the inaugural crowd did not have to be a big deal. Trump could have legitimately noted that D.C. was a Democratic stronghold, and generally speaking he represents rural majorities, but that the important thing is he represents all Americans. Trump did not do that. Instead, he told his press secretary to tell a bunch of bald faced lies, and he attempted to blame the media.

This did NOT go well. Calling Spicer’s angry statement a presentation of ‘alternative facts’ does NOT work either. By the way, the condemnation ranged across the political spectrum, including condemnations from the Daily Caller. Even Chris Wallace from FOX commented about how he was at the Obama and Trump inaugurations, and the Trump one was small.

By the way, Trump missed an opportunity to give a unifying speech at his inauguration; instead, he delivered the “American Carnage” speech, with talk of tombstones and decay. That was a mistake too. Trump won with a minority of the vote. The GOP took control of the House and Senate with 49% and 42% of the votes, respectively. Given the narrowness of the split, a reassuring speech about a moderate approach and compromises would have been in order. Now the GOP is going full-speed ahead with a radical agenda opposed by the majority of Americans.

It doesn’t have to be this way.

Posted by: phx8 at January 22, 2017 1:44 PM
Comment #412481

Anyone with a long memory may recall Jimmy Carter giving a speech about an American “malaise.” It was a terrible mistake, a negative speech that suggested a lack of hope. Trump made the same mistake with his “American Carnage” speech. It was a worse mistake because it represented such a great opportunity. He could have played a uniter, an outsider beholden to neither Democrats nor Republicans. The talk at the UN, the lie about the dishonest media making up his feud with the intelligence community, and Spicer’s rant completely destroyed that opportunity.

Posted by: phx8 at January 22, 2017 1:49 PM
Comment #412482

Lets just cut the CRAP, Press Sec. are known for not being honest on some subjects. So lets get on to something more pertinent then F’n Crowds size.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 2:08 PM
Comment #412484
known for not being honest on some subjects

Press secretaries might have a reputation for obfuscation and spin, but never telling outright whoppers. Spicer pulled meaningless numbers out of his ass just to make Trump appear to be more popular than he actually is.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 3:06 PM
Comment #412486

Warped, Your full of it Press Sec. have been known to tell whoppers. Spin another word for LIE, Obfuscation another word for LIE!

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 3:50 PM
Comment #412487

KAP,

Your denial of the differences between mere spin and outright lies is very telling. Cognitive dissonance is on full display.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 3:55 PM
Comment #412488

Warped, Spin is what you are doing, making a falsehood look favorable to you.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 3:58 PM
Comment #412489

There’s nothing wrong with spin, it’s a normal part of politics. Outright lying, on the other hand, is not.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 4:11 PM
Comment #412490

Warped, So what you are saying is that it is fine to spin your way around an outright lie to make yourself look good even though you were the one who started the falsehood.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 4:26 PM
Comment #412491

Warped, in other words SPIN is covering up your outright lie.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 4:28 PM
Comment #412494

Nope. There need not be an outright right in order for their to be spin.

Spin is the art of deflecting attention away from unflattering facts and towards more appealing truths. This is not what Spicer did on Saturday.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 4:53 PM
Comment #412495

Sort of like what you are doing now, right Warped?

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 5:13 PM
Comment #412496

By the way Warped, did you see pictures from Trumps vantage point. IMO the crowd does look bigger from that vantage.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 5:24 PM
Comment #412497

Not really. Only if you view things a purely binary manner where everything that isn’t 100% honest truth is a bald faced lie. It turns out the truth is far murkier. Some “falsehoods” are more easily understood in light of the context in which they are told.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 5:30 PM
Comment #412498

I guess he is looking at it in a purely binary manner and the crowd does look larger then the view from the Washington monument, Warped. So your saying that because from Trump’s vantage point in which in his mind the crowd looked larger then the other view is a bald faced lie? Granted looks are deceiving but to call them a bald faced lie? NO

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 5:54 PM
Comment #412499

Nah, it was not a bald-faced lie for Trump to incorrectly claim 1 to 1.5 million people attended. I don’t blame Trump for being ignorant. It is definitely true that looking west obscures the holes in the crowd. Someone who is new to this could easily mistake that for a large crowd. It was an honest mistake and ideally Trump should have no problem apologizing and correcting the record in his next press conference (but we both know that will not happen on account of his narcissism and insecurity).

What I find important is Sean Spicer’s performance, which was absolutely inexcusable. Spicer is a veteran political operative and has lived near DC for decades. He knows better. To stand in front of the press and lie through his teeth is absolutely reprehensible. It is his statements that were bald-faced lies.

Remember, Spicer said that 420,000 Metro rides were taken on Friday yet NOBODY has a clue where he got that figure. WMATA’s official twitter feed tweeted a vastly different number (193,000 before 11am). Spicer claimed that 2017 was the first time white plastic pallets were used to protect the Mall’s grass, but ample evidence shows they were used in previous innaugurations.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 6:20 PM
Comment #412500

Warped, The Press Sec. works for the Pres. He tells him to hold a Press conference and tell them this and he goes out and does it. Did Spicer say his figures were before 11 am or were they for the whole day? Those pallets may have been used prior if the ground was wet and muddy from rain, I don’t know this was the first time I heard about them. The number I got for metro riders for that DAY was over 500,000. Who knows?

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 6:37 PM
Comment #412501

Yes, the total Metro ridership for the whole day was over 500,000, but that still isn’t 420,000. Spicer’s exact words were:

We know that 420,000 people used the D.C. Metro public transit yesterday, which actually compares to 317,000 that used it for President Obama’s last inaugural
.

317,000 represents Metro ridership on 1/21/2013 before 11am.

Those pallets may have been used prior if the ground was wet and muddy from rain

The pallets were used in 2013 when the weather was partly cloudy and no rain in the forecast.

Those pallets may have been used prior if the ground was wet and muddy from rain
Yes, this is the first time a Washington official has used the pallets to make a political point. It shouldn’t be something you and I are talking about, yet we are thanks to Spicer’s callous lying. Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 6:52 PM
Comment #412503

Warped, I don’t really care how many people were there. Like I said the Press Sec. works for the Pres. Trump says he saw a large crowd. The Press Sec. told the press what his boss told him what he saw period. Spicer is acting on behalf of his boss telling the press what Trump saw in his mind, as I said looks are deceiving. From the pictures looking toward the Washington monument I would say it was a larger crowd then the one from the Washington monument. So lie, NO, mistaken, YES. As far as the MSM goes I wouldn’t trust them as far as I could throw them.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 7:15 PM
Comment #412505
I don’t really care how many people were there

Neither do I, but I do care about having a government that doesn’t lie to its citizens are simply verifiable numbers like this.

The Press Sec. told the press what his boss told him what he saw period
Spicer is not merely Trump’s spokesperson. He is the spokesperson for the entire United States and its government. Think how these sort of antics must be playing overseas.

It is understandable how Trump may have gotten this wrong. What cannot be understood is why none of the “terrific minds” surrounding Trump had the balls to tell him he was full of shit. Sycophancy seems to be reigning supreme, which is a harbinger for bad things to come.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 9:14 PM
Comment #412506

For the same reason the terrific minds around Obama never told him he was full of shit, Warped.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 22, 2017 9:37 PM
Comment #412507

KAP,

Sycophancy has never been a problem in the Obama administration. There’s no Tu Quoque here.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 22, 2017 10:18 PM
Comment #412511

All of the sudden the left cares about government lying to them. Hmm.
And I know a time stamp can be as accurate as the person setting the clock on their camera. The time stamp reflects the time the camera operator chooses.

By the way, if Chuck Schumer plans on standing in the way with filibusters he should also accept the label “Hypocrite”.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 23, 2017 9:28 AM
Comment #412514

WW,

I’ve always tolerated the normal spin and obfuscation of Washington politics. I’ve never had tolerance for outright lying.

Regarding timestamps, alleging a conspiracy to manipulate timestamps is simply unbelievable. Some of the images come from Earth Cam. You can verify them yourself.

By the way, if Chuck Schumer plans on standing in the way with filibusters he should also accept the label “Hypocrite”.
No he shouldn’t. The context faced by Schumer today is very different from the one faced by McConnell during the Obama administration. Posted by: Warren Porter at January 23, 2017 11:30 AM
Comment #412515

Warped, You are basing your comments on 1 picture an airial one. Sure that would show Spicer lied but you look at the photos from the Capital during Trumps speech you will see very little white from the pallets. Spicer did not lie the crowd was large but maybe not as large as Obama’s but that may be because Obama was the first black person elected president. You say the context faced by Schumer is different then McConnell’s the only difference is PARTY AFFILIATION.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 23, 2017 11:53 AM
Comment #412518

Here is what Trump should have done:

1) He knew attendance at the inauguration would be low. Bus rentals were low, especially compared with the Women’s March the following day. He knew very few entertainers were even willing to perform. He was entering office with an approval rating of @ 41%, extraordinarily low. The GOP has a majority in both Houses, but a majority of voters did not vote for them. Furthermore, D.C. is heavily Democratic. Trump knew these things in advance. This was a given.

He should have given an inaugural address that co-opted the march the following day. He should have put on the most pro-woman speech, promising he would uphold Roe v Wade and access to free birth control. He should have set it up so the Women would seem to marching FOR him. He should have made an soaring speech promising unity and progress.

Instead, we got the “American Carnage” speech, followed by a series of lies by him and his press secretary that were so blatant, they met with universal condemnation, including the likes of The Daily Caller, Ari Fleischer, and many, many others. Sean Spicer utterly discredited himself. His first press conference was angry, he did not take questions, he attacked the press, and his “alternative facts” spawned derision.

Now we see WW and KAP desperately trying to defend it.

Posted by: phx8 at January 23, 2017 12:33 PM
Comment #412520

phx8, I could care less about the attendance. You didn’t like the speech, I did so what. With all the doom and gloom in your comments maybe you find a nice big rock to crawl under.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 23, 2017 1:02 PM
Comment #412522

KAP,
The speech represented a lot opportunity. According to the WSJ, the speech was written by Bannon and Miller, which explains the distinctly Alt-Right/White Nationalist flavor. The doom and gloom comes from Trump, who talked about “tombstones” and “carnage.”

Attendance should not have mattered, except that Trump and his press secretary chose to attack the media and utter complete, demonstrable falsehoods. Trump also attempted to blame the media when he denied there was conflict between him and the intelligence services. Trump has been pushing that narrative about the intelligence services for months. It was a lie.

Again, remember, the first target of an autocrat is a free press.

Posted by: phx8 at January 23, 2017 1:12 PM
Comment #412523

Correction- the inaugural speech represented a LOST opportunity.

Trump chose to do what he did. No one forced him. No one tricked him into uttering lies.

Posted by: phx8 at January 23, 2017 1:37 PM
Comment #412524

phx8, The conflict between Trump and the intel. service was the leaked BS document from some British guy. I’d be pissed to if something like that piece of BULLS**T got leaked about me. As far as the free press is concerned when they start printing and reporting NEWS instead of opinion maybe people will start having faith in the media again.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 23, 2017 1:39 PM
Comment #412527

KAP,
You write: “… The conflict between Trump and the intel. service was the leaked BS document from some British guy.”

You mean the MI-6 head of the Russian branch?

Did you follow the election, KAP? Did those Men in Black wave a memory eraser in front of you? Come on! Trump attacked the intelligence agencies over the War in Iraq intel repeatedly. He also attack them over the assessment that Russia was the source of the hack and leak through Wikileaks. Trump KNEW the Russians were behind it. The intelligence agencies- 17 of them- confirmed that. Trump was briefed on it. Yet Trump chose to promote a lie and deny it.

The press reported this, but spent way too much time promoting neutrality rather than truth. They gave a lot of attention to HRC’s e-mails, which turned out to amount to very little, while failing to shout from the rooftops that the Russians were influencing our election!

Seriously. Do you not remember? This was news, not opinion.

Right now four of Trump’s aids are being investigated for coordinating with the Russians during the campaign. NSA
Advisor Flynn is being investigated for the five calls to the Russian ambassador on 12/29. Manafort, a former campaign manager, is also a likely target. He failed to register as a Foreign Agent while taking money from the pro-Russian, former president of the Ukraine. Even after Manafort was fired, he stayed in Trump tower.

Trump can stop a lot of the investigations, but he will not be able to stop everybody from looking into this. Sooner or later, the word ‘treason’ is going to be flying around the Trump administration in tight little circles.

Posted by: phx8 at January 23, 2017 2:33 PM
Comment #412528

phx8, Have you found that rock yet?

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 23, 2017 2:38 PM
Comment #412529

phx8 wrote; “Anyone with a long memory may recall Jimmy Carter giving a speech about an American “malaise.”

I do remember hearing that speech as Carter gave it. Relying only on my memory, President Carter seemed to be saying that our best days were behind us and that the future meant less growth, less consumption and a much darker, less fulfilling life.

Ronald Reagan, much like Donald Trump, used the power of words to assure Americans that by following the correct political path, America could become “GREAT AGAIN”.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 23, 2017 3:15 PM
Comment #412530

Today Sean Spicer said the White House “can disagree with the facts.”

No. They can not. That is called lying. A person can disagree with the fact of gravity, but that does not change the truth that gravity is a fact.

KAP,
Understandable that you would attempt to dismiss me. You keep posting comments defending the indefensible, and attempting to blame the media, and when that goes poorly, you resort to a short, one sentence insult, as if I am the one spreading inaccurate information, or spreading gloom and doom by stating facts.

There are no “alternate facts.” There is no ‘disagreeing with facts.’

Posted by: phx8 at January 23, 2017 3:15 PM
Comment #412531

RF,
Here is the closing paragraph of the “malaise” speech:

In closing, let me say this: I will do my best, but I will not do it alone. Let your voice be heard. Whenever you have a chance, say something good about our country. With God’s help and for the sake of our nation, it is time for us to join hands in America. Let us commit ourselves together to a rebirth of the American spirit. Working together with our common faith we cannot fail.

Thank you and good night.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/carter-crisis/

Curiously, Carter never used the word “malaise” in that speech.

The point is that an important speech can be a powerful tool for healing and unifying. For Trump, it could also have been a chance to co-opt the massive protests. He KNEW that was coming. Yet he missed the opportunity.

Today he signed an order banning funding for international organizations that include abortion as an option for family planning. Why? Why do something so antagonistic to women. I realize many, including you, might agree with doing that, but the timing is so ham-handed, it is hard to comprehend. It confirms the worse suspicions among many women. Worse, a picture of the signing shows eight white men standing around Trump. The optics couldn’t be worse.

How bad is Trump going to be? Where is the bottom on this thing?

Posted by: phx8 at January 23, 2017 3:26 PM
Comment #412532

KAP, he can’t. You already occupy it.

Posted by: Warren Porter at January 23, 2017 3:29 PM
Comment #412533

No Warped, I don’t preach doom and gloom like you lobbies. We lived through Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reaghan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama, in my lifetime I think we can manage to live through Trump.

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 23, 2017 3:43 PM
Comment #412534

That’s Libbies, not Lobbies

Posted by: Rich KAPitan at January 23, 2017 3:45 PM
Comment #412535

“The press reported this, but spent way too much time promoting neutrality rather than truth. They gave a lot of attention to HRC’s e-mails, which turned out to amount to very little, while failing to shout from the rooftops that the Russians were influencing our election!”

So, “the Russians were influencing our election” with information “which turned out to amount to very little”?

Why? Taxpayer dollars should not be used to promote or support something like abortion.

After 8 years of optics running the country, it’s time to go back to using quality.

Posted by: kctim at January 23, 2017 3:49 PM
Comment #412537

Curiously, Carter never used the word “malaise” in that speech.

I suppose phx8, it was the media looking for a succinct word to sum up the speech.

phx8 writes; “Today he signed an order banning funding for international organizations that include abortion as an option for family planning.”

It makes perfect sense if one understands that the same ban exists for abortions in the United States. Why must the Left deny the obvious?

It is much the same for border protection. We station American military in parts of the world to protect the borders of other countries but drag our feet in protecting our own borders.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 23, 2017 4:00 PM
Comment #412541

RF,
The “malaise” speech was actually entitled “Crisis of Confidence,” which is just as bad, if not worse. Oddly enough, the public responded positively to the speech, and his approval jumped up by 11%. It tanked shortly afterwards for other reasons.

Elections have consequences. It is not unusual for presidents to use executive orders to reverse the orders of a previous administration. The funding issue has been reversed and reversed yet again several times by past presidents. What makes it so politically inept and ham handed is that Trump did it immediately after the largest protest in history, a March by Women, was directed against Trump. He posed for a signing picture with eight white males standing behind him!

At some point, Trump needs popular support. He won with a minority of votes, and starts with an approval rating of just 41%. To govern, that MUST improve. He could start a war and hope everyone rallies around the flag, but that would almost certainly fail.

If he goes through with moving the US embassy to Jerusalem and rejecting the idea of a two-state solution, that would start a round of violence. If only one state can prevail, it will amount to an elimination round. One side survives, the other, not.

Posted by: phx8 at January 23, 2017 4:47 PM
Comment #412543

A war, just what the Democratics ordered. From FDR to Johnson, to almost Obama/Hillbilly, we need a war to get out of the rotten economy of Democratic governments.

Wow, phx8! You accuse Trump of lying and then criticize him for not lying about the women’s protest! You’re incredible!

And as far as women supporting abortion, you’re wrong to say a majority of women support abortion. You’re just wrong about that.

Posted by: Weary Willie at January 23, 2017 5:02 PM
Comment #412544

I won’t argue approval ratings for presidents and how to raise them phx8.

It is obvious to me that Trump considers keeping promises made to voters as more important that fluctuating approval ratings based on (faulty at times) polling and a fickle public.

That makes me smile.

Posted by: Royal Flush at January 23, 2017 5:03 PM
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