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Walker & Perry call it quits

In the past month, Rick Perry and Scott Walker have dropped out of the Presidential race. Personally, I am breathing a sigh of relief. These two men were the ones that kept me up at night. Not because they were the strongest general election candidates, but these were the guys with both the mainstream credibility to eek through a general election as well as the backbones they would need to stand up to moderates and liberals in Congress.

Walker demonstrated his capabilities in the showdowns regarding public sector unions in Wisconsin. And Perry had an unashamedly conservative record in Texas. All the remaining plausible candidates would be somewhat acceptable to me.

At this point, my money is still on Kasich to win the NH primary. And as the saying goes, in Iowa they pick corn. In New Hampshire, they pick Presidents.

Posted by Warren Porter at September 21, 2015 7:29 PM
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We’re all better off for people like Walker and Perry falling by the wayside. I do feel a little sorry for Perry. He actually did spend a lot of time boning up on issues to make up for his dismal performance in 2012. Sadly, not even wearing thick rimmed glasses was enough to save him. The prospect of a public corruption trial next year didn’t help. But I really thought he won that first debate. FOX was having none of it. They declared Fiorina the winner, and that was that.

Kasich is the only candidate I think could win a general election, but he is not enough of a “whacko bird”, as 2008 Republican presidential candidate John McCain described some members of his own party.

I’ll stick with my prediction of Cruz. He is the most extreme one out there, he will say absolutely anything to appeal to the most extreme elements in the party, and his big chance is coming up next week. If he can lead a government shutdown over PP, he will boost his chances with the crazies.

This is an election where the inmates have taken over the asylum in the GOP. The establishment spent years going along with all sorts of wild stuff- Obama is a Muslim, Obama was born in another country, Obama is a communist/socialist/Marxist follower of Reverend Wright; Global Warming is a worldwide hoax perpetrated by 97% of the scientific community and every single national and international scientific organization, the unemployment numbers are fixed, the stock market is being fueled by printing money, the polls are skewed, and the MSM is biased against conservatives, the economy under Bush was good and the economy under Obama is bad.

Encouraging that kind of talk has consequences. Now a significant number of conservatives Republicans- according to polls, over 40% of all Republicans, and 60% of Trump supporters- believe Obama is a Muslim and not an American citizen. The result? Donald Trump. Dr. Ben Carson. And there is Carly Fiorina making up a story about PP during the last debate, and that helped propel her into 2nd place.

Now here we are. The GOP big top is on fire, the clown car is racing around the three rings, and the clowns are spritzing the flames with squirt gun flowers. But these flowers are spritzing gasoline. The conservative movement is going up in flames before our eyes.

They deserve it.

Posted by: phx8 at September 21, 2015 10:46 PM
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I still have faith the GOP establishment will ensure that the nominee is one of their own. This means Kasich or Rubio will win, as far as I can see.

Posted by: Warren Porter at September 22, 2015 12:37 AM
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Wow the Koch Bros point man has went up in flames on the national stage, what a surprise! Wasn’t that long ago he was considered a top of the line candidate with a real chance at the nomination. About time good ol Scott did something positive for the American people, now he just needs to do the same for the people of Wisconsin.

Posted by: j2t2 at September 22, 2015 12:57 AM
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Probably right, the GOP establishment will pick one of its own. Under normal circumstances, that would be Jeb! He has the political network, the donors, and a lock on perhaps 20% of the super-delegates, but… but… he is not a very good campaigner, and… more importantly, his last name is ‘Bush.’ He just can’t come to terms with the disasters of his brother’s presidency. And it will get worse. One of these days, someone will ask him what he thinks of the saying: “read my lips- no new taxes.”

I’m beginning to think Kasich may not get out of the starting gate. If he can’t make the stage for the next debate, it will be extremely tough for him. I still think he’s a lock for VP.

Rubio is doing a pretty good job. He blew it on leading immigration reform and on opposing recognition of Cuba. Like Jeb:-/, Rubio is playing the long game for the general election, even at the expense of doing poorly in the primaries, because both proclaimed Obama is an American citizen and a Christian. Let’s see how that plays out.

It’s hard to believe the GOP has come to such a pathetically low point- admitting the president is a citizen and a Christian. Well, I’m betting on the crazy, and no one brings the crazy like Cruz. If he can shut down the government he just might put himself over the top, even if it is at the expense of the country as a whole. That kind of consideration won’t even slow him for a second.

Posted by: phx8 at September 22, 2015 1:37 AM
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Probably right, the GOP establishment will pick one of its own.
Yes, but whoever the establishment picks needs to have tea party cred to arouse the masses. This requires some sort of claim to be an “outsider”. Rubio & Kasich have this credibility and Bush does not.

Kasich is still polling well in NH. If he can win that contest, he’ll get good press and the party will rally behind him. That is how McCain secured the ‘08 nomination.

Posted by: W at September 22, 2015 9:18 AM
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