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Clinton’s comments are not really that controversial.

He said that Romney did a good job at Bain and that equity capital has a legitimate and needed place at the economic table. OK, who would disagree with that barring some unforeseen scandal during his tenure at Bain. But, lets be clear, that hasn’t been Obama’s attack on Romney or Bain Capital. It was to rebut Romney’s claim that he was a job creator at Bain. That he knows how to create jobs. Squeezing some profit out of a dying company may be an excellent skill. Junk dealers do play a legitimate role in the economy. However, it is not like starting up a bunch of Microsofts or expanding businesses and creating new job opportunities.

The remarks on the “fiscal cliff” fall into the obvious category. Does anyone really think that Obama would seriously consider raising taxes, at least across the board, during a time that the private sector remains on life support. It is a form of federal deficit stimulus. But, Bill apparently forgot that Obama has to play political hardball with the Republicans before the time that the automatic debt ceiling expenditure and revenue agreement comes into effect. The only card that Obama has to play is the Bush tax cuts in bargaining with the Republicans over expenditure cuts. Thanks, Bill.

I find it odd that I am defending Bill Clinton, although he did do some good things for the country with the aid of the Republican congress.

When Bill Clinton speaks his mind, reveals what he really believes, why should anyone take offense. Would obamaluv expect Mr. Clinton to lie? Clinton is an American ex-president and his words carry weight. Can he not be a truth teller and also support obama? Should Clinton be required to lie about his own beliefs, for political purposes, would that not erode his worth in his support of obama?

“Whose side is he on?”

Bill Clinton has stumbled into the truth.

This is a hard race for President Obama. He ran last time on hope and change. Four years later, he cannot do that. Now he has a record, but he is a little ashamed of it. So what does he do?

Obama’s only chance is to tear down Romney. The Obama strategy is not to tell voters about his own great record or his own achievements, but to destroy his opponent so that he is the last man standing. It will be impossible for Obama to win clean, so he will try to win dirty.

His problem is lack of people to carry his message of odium. Clinton is an elder statesman. He no longer has the stomach for the kind of nastiness required to take down Mitt Romney. If Obama does it himself, as he has tried, he ends up hurting himself. Even Democrats are offended by the mendacity of attacking the free market system, even if the target is Mitt Romney and free markets are only collateral damage.

I am sure that the Obama campaign will try to get the usual liberal allies to carry the water. We can expect increasing attacks on Romney by “humorists” and pundits.

But I don’t think it will work. Unless there is a big break, Obama is going down. His appeal was based on his personal charisma and a compelling narrative that turned out not to be true, or at least not sustainable.

What we have is a guy not really up to being president, a kind of Hollywood version of what the liberal elites think a president should look like. It was an impressive castle built on a foundation of shifting sand, an idol with feet of clay.

The best one is that Clintons own people said he was 65 years old and insinuated early stages of dementia. Booker, the Mayer of Philly, said similar things and today was told he was “Dead” in the sense that his political career was finished. It’s funny how the left always says republicans are like lemmings following the leader and that they are intellectual and promote individual thought, but as soon as a couple of leading democrats speak their mind…they are thrown under the bus. So much for individual thought.

Perhaps, even though Clinton is a liberal, he’s sees the direction Obama is taking the country and don’t like it. Or perhaps Clinton thinks Hillary would make a better president. In fact, after a disastrous month like this one has been, I bet there are a lot of closet Hillary supporters who wish she was running instead of King Obama.

Rich I kind of agree with you here. Romney should not be using Bain to say he was a “job creator.” When he does he opens himself up for that attack that Obama (and Axelrod) make.

I can’t think of any business where the goal would be to create jobs and Bain capital is no different. Imagine FedEx changing its mission statement “FedEx Corporation will produce superior financial returns for its shareowners” to “FedEx will hire more people than UPS.” Creating jobs is a wonderful by-product of free enterprise but it is never the goal.

That said, the real question becomes, do we want someone with business experience to “run government like a business” or do we need a professional politician? I can hear Herman Cain now.

It doesn’t matter if Romney uses Bain or not; but according to James Carville’s research, Obama “WILL FAIL” if he focuses on the economy. I found his research very interesting; but I am sure the left will be willing to throw Carville under the bus as a traitor. Obama is the one pushing Bain Capital, against the advice of many Democrats.

http://www.democracycorps.com/wp-content/files/DCorps_economy_FG1_report2-FINAL.pdf

Everytime Obama speaks, he talks about the economy, which hurts him; and Romney hammers him.

Bill

Obama just is not that smart. Our liberal friends have pushed the idea that he is some kind of genius. He is smarter than the average person, but not as smart as he needs to be for his job. Nor does he have the real feel for politics.

He has had a golden life, with lots of people helping him along. He is used to using his charm and status to get what he wants. He doesn’t like to play the actual politics game.

The comments made by Carville are clearly shaking up the Obama administration.

“In a new report released by James Carville’s liberal nonprofit public opinion research group, Democracy Corps, data from focus groups shows that Barack Obama is taking the wrong approach to the campaign by focusing on economic issues.

The co-authors of the report, Carville, Stan Greenberg and Erica Seifert, claim that the Obama campaign must “move to a new narrative” in order to be successful in November. The authors use the first person plural “we” throughout the report to describe Democratic efforts.

The current campaign is focused on success in the economic recovery, but Carville’s group says the strategy is “wrong” and “will fail.” The only reason Obama is keeping up in the campaign is because voters perceive Romney as “out of touch with ordinary people.”

http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/12/carville-obama-will-fail-if-he-talks-about-economic-growth/

“Panic! Democrats Realize Obama Can Lose”

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/06/13/panic_democrats_realize_obama_can_lose

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/06/12/democrats_face_reality_obama_in_trouble

“Desperate Obama Campaign Runs Radio Ad Targeting Black Voters”

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/06/12/desperate_obama_campaign_runs_radio_ad_targeting_black_voters

“Black Businessman Has Soured on Obama”

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/06/13/black_businessman_has_soured_on_obama

IS THERE A PATTERN HERE???

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Bull. If Obama tries to avoid the economy, Romney’s just going to bring it back in and make him hurt for it.

Obama’s taking the right tack. Most people don’t blame him for what happened, they blame Bush and Wall Street.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I present you with a successful genetic hybrid of Bush upper-crust elitism, with Wall Street Economic sociopathy: Mitt Romney. A bad job creator, a terrific job destroyer!

Compare Obama, who saved GM, against Romney’s advice, with a government intervention, rather than appeal to non-existent investors willing to do a structured bankruptcy with the ailing auto giant.

Republicans can only succeed on the economy to the extent that it’s not obvious that their policies destroy jobs. What was it that Romney said about teachers, firefighters, and cops, that he would let them get laid off and everything?

The basic problem for your party is that once the attention is back on you, your basic solution, sold to the public, is to do nothing, or do worse than nothing by pro-cyclically killing jobs in the public sector. Your essential job-creating policy is to hand more money to already cash-rich individuals and corporations who are doing nothing with what they already have, while killing jobs you don’t have to at a state, local and federal level.

Does this make any sense? Only if you pretend that creating actual jobs is a bad thing.

Romney, despite your best efforts, still runs second to Obama. What’s to prevent that man’s out of touch Wall Street Raider personality from spontaneously launching his foot on a trajectory for his mouth? Obama will make this about the economy, and before we know it, Romney will be damning himself with his own words.

Stephen, I am shocked…you didn’t attack Rush Limbaugh or the links to his comments. You’re slipping. By the way Stephen, I didn’t say Obama was wrong in making his reelection about blaming Bush or attacking Roney on the economy; it was one of your own political hacks, Carville. As far as I’m concerned Obama can keep doing what he is already doing. It’s a steady drop in the polls for him. But I am also surprised you didn’t attack Carville.

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