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Right Wing Media Lazy In Treatment of Obama Statement

There goes that “liberal” Politico again. They have taken up a right wing smear of President Obama suggesting he called the American people lazy. Of course that’s not the context Obama was speaking in, but don’t tell Republicans. We’re in an election season, you know?

Politico writes:

POLITICO's Jonathan Allen and Alex Isenstadt report that President Barack Obama's recent characterization of the American people as "a little bit lazy" is being used against him by presidential candidate Rick Perry and other Republicans.

Will the president's comment come back to haunt him in campaign 2012? Have his words been misconstrued?

Really, Politico? Is that what you're going with? Obama characterized the American people as a little bit lazy? Then the author hedges: Have his words been misconstrued? Well, yeah. A little bit.

But what is the response to this question in the thread? Every dishonest writer unloads on the President:

Speaking of lazy...who's the guy that has been playing all that golf?

Zing! You showed him, Mr. Ex-Rep. How dare Obama play golf in his spare time instead of jetting off to a ranch like a real leader should?

Lazy? The guy who voted present more than 100 times while a member of the Illinois state Senate is calling other people "lazy"?

Ouch! Yes, more than 100 is nearly as many as the roughly 4000 times he didn't vote present.

Meanwhile every honest one points out the context of Obama's statement:

Well, the comments would be devastating if at all true; however, they were completely taken out of context.

And:

Are the Republicans so bereft of ideas that have to resort to quoting the president out of context and calling him names? I guess so.

That's a fine question.

Media Matters does a better job of breaking down the right wing media response to Obama's statement. It would be shocking if it weren't an every day thing from these people.

The right wing media has two jobs these days:


  1. Smear President Obama by distorting his statements and record.

  2. Smear anyone who reports factual information about conservative politicians.

If it can meet the requirements of both in one swipe then even better!

Posted by Adam Ducker at November 17, 2011 9:49 AM
Comments
Comment #332115

I think we have been lazy about selling America as a place to do business in. We’ve sat on our laurels for too long, allowed too much of our manufacturing and our intellectual property generation to go overseas, for false promises of trade benefits that never came.

I think it’s important we understand what Obama was saying: that America’s rested too long on its past glory, not that Americans themselves are incapable or unwilling to do better. We do need to promote America’s position in the world, rather than just passively letting other countries take the lead to please those in our government and our corporate leadership for whom it’s profitable.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at November 17, 2011 1:00 PM
Comment #332123

Stephen & Adam

It is true that Obama did not call the American people lazy. He did, however, betray a profound misunderstanding of business that is even more troubling. In his formulation, investment comes to counties, or not, mostly because of a selling job done by governments.

Investment in the U.S. is still strong, BTW, but to the extent that it is not some of the most important reasons are the high corporate taxes and uncertainty about future taxes and regulations. These things are Obama’s to deal with.

Once again, our president has boldly pointed out the failures of others over which he has little direct control, while ignoring the failures he can control and/or has caused.

Words of politicians are often misconstrued. Remember when Bush called the danger of Iraq imminent in that State of the Union Speech? He never did.

Posted by: C&J at November 17, 2011 5:27 PM
Comment #332124

… and let’s not forget the billion of dollars in investment that the President postponed (and probably hopes to kill) related to the Keystone pipeline.

Talk about being a little bit lazy. Not making decisions is a little bit lazy.

Posted by: C&J at November 17, 2011 5:32 PM
Comment #332125

Sorry to post three times in a row, but this from WSJ says it well,

“Within days of the Keystone decision, Canada’s prime minister, Stephen Harper, said his country would divert sales of the Keystone-intended oil to Asia. Translation: Those lost American blue-collar pipeline jobs are disappearing into the Asian sun. Incidentally, Mr. Harper has said he wants to turn Canada into an energy “superpower,” exploiting its oil, gas and hydroelectric resources. Meanwhile, the American president shores up his environmental base in Hollywood and on campus. Perhaps our blue-collar work force should consider emigrating to Canada.”

Posted by: C&J at November 17, 2011 5:36 PM
Comment #332126

C&J:

Keystone did not deserve a yes right now. Would you rather have a no now instead? The option was not yes or no, it was no or wait and see.

Posted by: Adam Ducker at November 17, 2011 6:00 PM
Comment #332127

Maybe we should create jobs by investing in alternative energy sources, and stop adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.

Oh. I forgot. According to many Republicans, Anthropogenic Global Warming is an international conspiracy by scientists to destroy America, and launch worldwide Socialism. Not one Republican presidential candidate- well, except Huntsman- accepts AGW as proven. Romney used to accept it, but changed his mind. These days, you can tell when Romney is lying because his lips are moving. Gingrich used to accept it, but now may or may not accept it, depending on who is listening.

Posted by: phx8 at November 17, 2011 6:02 PM
Comment #332128

Rick Perry is just flailing now. Wow.

This latest piece of garbage from the campaign runs with the lie that Obama called the American people lazy and calls it “pathetic” and Obama’s policies “socialist.” He also calls for a balanced budget amendment that is unworkable and completely out of the realm of possibility. Sad.

Vote Rick Perry. We wants complete clowns like himself running our government.

Posted by: Adam Ducker at November 17, 2011 6:06 PM
Comment #332130

Adam

A reasonable man would have enough information to make the decision. He could have decided on the new route if he wanted. The pipeline is safe. The problem some people have is with the method of getting oil form oil sands in Canada. Since the Canadians will do that in any case AND send a lot of that oil to China over the Rockies and/or send it to American markets in tankers, there is a net loss to the environment.

In any case, Obama sacrificed thousands of well paying American jobs. He essentially sent them to China. So his statement in Asia that Americans firms have become a little lazy in attracting investment - when OBAMA himself keeps it out - is a bit disingenuous.

Phx8

We invested piles of money in these things. So did the Germans, Spanish and others. These investments do not create many jobs. In fact, the government interference with investments has sent us down a couple of blind alleys and perhaps actually slowed development.

Government has an important role to play in R&D, which it often neglects in the pursuit of the chimera of having government play the role of venture capitalist.

IMO - we have a really simplistic analysis of government. Some of my fellow conservatives think government has no role. This is wrong. But liberals make a different sort of error. They assume that when government “invests” money that there is a result in line with the stated goal. This is often NOT the case. Government “investment” can be worse than nothing if it crowds out other investment or sets technologies on the the wrong courses.

Solyndra was a good example of the latter. It is a scandal that we wasted so much money. But in the bigger picture it is good that it did fail early, rather than continue to lead us down the road of obsolete tech subsidized by taxpayers.

Posted by: C&J at November 17, 2011 6:19 PM
Comment #332131

“Within days of the Keystone decision, Canada’s prime minister, Stephen Harper, said his country would divert sales of the Keystone-intended oil to Asia. Translation: Those lost American blue-collar pipeline jobs are disappearing into the Asian sun. Incidentally, Mr. Harper has said he wants to turn Canada into an energy “superpower,” exploiting its oil, gas and hydroelectric resources. Meanwhile, the American president shores up his environmental base in Hollywood and on campus. Perhaps our blue-collar work force should consider emigrating to Canada.”

Posted by: C&J at November 17, 2011 5:36 PM

C&J, perhaps the oil being sent to “Asia” is part of Obama’s big plan; considering the fact Obama believes Hawaii is part of Asia. So maybe the oil will be sent to Hawaii, before it is sent to the Texas refineries.

“C&J:

Keystone did not deserve a yes right now. Would you rather have a no now instead? The option was not yes or no, it was no or wait and see.”

Posted by: Adam Ducker at November 17, 2011 6:00 PM

Yes, or perhaps it is just a postponement in order to keep his EPA/GW supporters from becoming furious with him. Remember, Obama’s real challenge, at this point, is to strengthen his base. But then, perhaps it is only the liberals who cannot see the strategy behind Obama’s decisions. He spent a year campaigning, then he spent 2 years ramming bad bills down our throats and paying back his supporters, and now he is spending his last 2 years campaigning again.

“Maybe we should create jobs by investing in alternative energy sources, and stop adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.

Oh. I forgot. According to many Republicans, Anthropogenic Global Warming is an international conspiracy by scientists to destroy America, and launch worldwide Socialism. Not one Republican presidential candidate- well, except Huntsman- accepts AGW as proven. Romney used to accept it, but changed his mind. These days, you can tell when Romney is lying because his lips are moving. Gingrich used to accept it, but now may or may not accept it, depending on who is listening.”

Posted by: phx8 at November 17, 2011 6:02 PM

phx8, I’m not really sure how to tell you this, but most Americans could care less about GW at this point in history. Perhaps you haven’t seen any polls lately, but GW is way down on the list of concerns.

Posted by: Frank at November 17, 2011 6:36 PM
Comment #332132

R&D is inherently risky. Investment in education is inherently risky. Solyndras will happen. Drugs will be tested and fail. Ships will sail on voyages of exploration and sink. One man will search for El Dorado and find nothing. Most fail. Yet every so often, one searcher will find the Incas.

The space program paid for itself in full through weather satellites alone, not to mention speeding along the development of computer technologies.

Today, the Chinese government invests heavily in alternative energies and especially R&D. They invest heavily in education, and their government is producing a flock of PhD’s. Meanwhile, in the United States, we’re wondering how we can cut investments in education and R&D. We subsidize Big Oil and other fossil fuels, even whiile knowing the danger of producing and depending on forms of enery that create greenhouse gases, and look for excuses to strip investments from green forms of energy.

Posted by: phx8 at November 17, 2011 6:44 PM
Comment #332134

Frank,
There is no doubt in my mind that AGW is the most serious long-term threat we face. While it is true that most Americans don’t care about it, or even doubt it’s real, that doesn’t change the nature of the problem. I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again, I doubt we will do anything about it until something catastrophic happens, and at that point, it will be too late; the amounts of energy involved in addressing the problem are simply incredible. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, we’ll end up relying on asolution in the future that seems like weird science fiction today.

And it will be difficult for us to explain to our posterity why we did what we did, and what on earth we were thinking…

Posted by: phx8 at November 17, 2011 7:00 PM
Comment #332135

phx8

Solyndra was NOT an investment in R&D. It was an investment in a company and a particular technology. That was the mistake. Government should support R&D, IMO. It should not try to pick winners or make taxpayers the fall guys for private failures.

Re education - you are changing the subject but this is a proof of what I am telling you about government “investment”.

We spend much more on education than China. Our spending on education has increased greatly over the last decades. Education has not improved. It is mismanaged in many cases. Putting more money behind bad ideas is something only government can afford for a long time.

The U.S. is also still the biggest source of R&D in the world. But you can do R&D in right and wrong ways.

We all now can see that Solyndra was a bad idea. It was kept going at government expense long after that money should have been redeployed to more worthy projects.

Again - in education and in investments in businesses, government money does not produce results commensurate with investments and sometimes additional money actually produced negative outcomes.

Where do they spend the most money per pupil? In places like DC and NYC, where the results are the worst.

Posted by: C&J at November 17, 2011 7:01 PM
Comment #332176
He could have decided on the new route if he wanted.

C&J We have years of bad decisions from conservatives based upon just this type of poor leadership. If the company doesn’t know the new route how can it be approved without going through the process?

Posted by: j2t2 at November 18, 2011 11:42 PM
Comment #332186

j2t2

Doing nothing is also a decision. The Canadians will move their oil west over the Rockies and create jobs in Asia. Meanwhile, tankers will continue to bring oil into the U.S. in a less efficient, more expensive and ecologically more harmful way. That is what Obama has chosen.

Obama has chosen to sacrifice thousands of well paying American jobs, avoid or postpone a REAL stimulus based on more efficient energy production, and rely on a means of transportation of oil that is more destructive to the environment. That is the Obama choice. He balance political risks with economic and environmental ones and politics won.

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