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Going Forward or Going Backward

Republicans think the November elections will be about what they believe are the failures of the Obama Administration. Since there is so much frustration in the land, Republicans think they can blame Obama and the Democrats for everything. They got a big surprise coming. In his remarks in Pittsburgh today, President Obama defined the real debate:

…But to be fair, a good deal of the other party’s opposition to our agenda has also been rooted in their sincere and fundamental belief about government. It’s a belief that government has little or no role to play in helping this nation meet our collective challenges. It’s an agenda that basically offers two answers to every problem we face: more tax breaks for the wealthy and fewer rules for corporations.

…As November approaches, leaders in the other party will campaign furiously on the same economic argument they’ve been making for decades. Fortunately, we don’t have to look back too many years to see how it turns out. For much of the last ten years, we tried it their way. They gave tax cuts that weren’t paid for to millionaires who didn’t need them. They gutted regulations, and put industry insiders in charge of industry oversight. They shortchanged investments in clean energy and education; in research and technology. And despite all their current moralizing about the need to curb spending, this is the same crowd who took the record $237 billion surplus that President Clinton left them and turned it into a record $1.3 trillion deficit.

So we already know where their ideas led us. And now we have a choice as a nation. We can return to the failed economic policies of the past, or we can keep building a stronger future. We can go backward, or we can keep moving forward.

Republican criticism of Obama and the Democrats has been relentless. Regardless of the subject, the problem is always Obama's fault or Pelosi's fault... The latest blast is by John McCain who blamed Obama for the Israeli assault on the ship carrying humane materials to the Gazans!?! From the beginning, Republicans decided that by constantly finding fault with Democrats and by delaying and sabotaging Democrtic legislation, they could turn the country against "big government" Democrats.

But this didn't wash. After all their ranting, Republican popularity today is worse than Democratic popularity. And President Barack Obama is showing the way:

"We can return to the failed economic policies of the past, or we can keep building a stronger future. We can go backward, or we can keep moving forward."

How about you? Do you believe that Republican policies have helped our economy - or helped the economy crash? Do you think we need deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy - or you'd like some jobs for the middle class? Will you vote for Republicans who will work for the welfare of Big Business - or will you vote for Democrats that support the expansive policies of Obama?

The main question you will face this November is this: Do you want to go backward or go forward?

Posted by Paul Siegel at June 2, 2010 8:28 PM
Comments
Comment #301541

PS:

“The main question you will face this November is this: Do you want to go backward or go forward?”

No, the real question we will face is can we stand for this so-called president to drive us further in debt? You guys on the left love to talk about the Clinton surplus and the Bush deficit; perhaps you could tell us how much debt BHO and the ring leaders of the Democratic Party have saddled us with since being in control. Not to mention the long-term effect of bills they have signed into law.

This man nauseates me every time he puts his face on TV, and that is everyday. If he opens his mouth, he is lying.

“Republican criticism of Obama and the Democrats has been relentless. Regardless of the subject, the problem is always Obama’s fault or Pelosi’s fault”

And who do you propose we blame; since they are in charge and pushing the agenda.

As usual, your posts are nothing more than liberal rant…

“We can return to the failed economic policies of the past, or we can keep building a stronger future. We can go backward, or we can keep moving forward.”

This is nothing more than liberal talking points. Bob Beckle, Gibbs, Combs, and dozens more have been spouting this stuff long before you copied and pasted it.

There will be a lot of things remembered in November, but they won’t be things liberal democrats want to hear about…

Posted by: Beretta9 at June 2, 2010 9:00 PM
Comment #301542
You guys on the left love to talk about the Clinton surplus and the Bush deficit; perhaps you could tell us how much debt BHO and the ring leaders of the Democratic Party have saddled us with since being in control.

Do you know the difference between Keynesian deficit spending to combat a recession and reckless deficit spending during times of economic growth? If the Democrats continue the spending after the economy recovers, your argument will begin to have merit; however, if the Democrats do the smart thing and do not continue the spending, then we will be in much better shape. If the Democrats continue the spending and/or refuse to terminate the Bush Tax cuts resulting in deficits they won’t be getting any sympathy in the ballot box form me in 2012.

In fact, my local congresswoman hasn’t done anything to garner my support since she was first elected three years ago. Just like in 2008 I’ll be writing in the name of my State Senator instead of voting for Nicola Tsongas, who is nothing more than a big piece of nepotism. The Democrats will have a rough ride for the next year or two, but if they want to be truly remembered decades from now, they must forsake immediate political gain for long-term success. Will some factions be upset when their pet project is cut? Certainly, but that is the price of leadership.

Posted by: Warped Reality at June 2, 2010 9:21 PM
Comment #301544

This says it all:

“For a party that is so seemingly proud of enacting their big-government agenda, congressional Democrats are conspicuously absent from the campaign trail,” said Paul Lindsay, a spokesman for the House Republicans’ campaigns. “If this is their way of listening to voters, November could be even more difficult than they bargained for.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/02/AR2010060202435.html?sub=AR

“Elected officials say no thanks to Obama invite”

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_684062.html

He just keeps dropping in the polls, but hey, who reads polls…

http://www.gallup.com/poll/139337/Obama-Weekly-Approval-Average-Dips-New-Low.aspx

Maybe this is what will be on peoples minds in November???

Posted by: Beretta9 at June 2, 2010 9:27 PM
Comment #301545

WR:

“Do you know the difference between Keynesian deficit spending to combat a recession and reckless deficit spending during times of economic growth?”

You know what WR, most people don’t know or care about the difference, but they do know when money we don’t have continues to be spent and the national debt and unemployment keeps climbing. Use all the smoke and mirrors you want, but dems do what dems do best and that is spend, spend, spend. You don’t have any idea how scared americans are, do you???

Posted by: Beretta9 at June 2, 2010 9:35 PM
Comment #301551

President Obama is misstating the opposition position. He did this very well in the election when people still believed he was sincere and truth telling. It will work less well when we have had the experience of four years of Democratic rule in Congress and two in the presidency.

IMO the Democrats made a mistake of thinking that people were embracing their big-government ideology. What the Democrats sold was that they would be more competent. This has proven to be false.

Now the locus of responsibility has shifted. A couple years ago, Democrats could blame Republicans. Today Republicans can blame Democrats.

When the Democrats took over in 2006, the economy was okay. It has been down hill since then. Now that Democrats control both houses of congress and the presidency, it is even worse. The farther we get from the Bush time, the harder it is to blame Bush. It just doesn’t sell anymore.

Now Democrats have have a positive program and they don’t have one.

Posted by: C&J at June 2, 2010 10:15 PM
Comment #301552

C&J-
Go look at actual polls. Majorities still blame you guys for the deficit and the economy. You’re simply dreaming if you think you’ve really succeeded in shifting responsibility. And it doesn’t help that your policies, like Obama truthfully stated, haven’t changed.

You folks declare Palin the future of the party. Palin comes out today saying that this Oil Spill Demonstrates why we need to get oil on dry land. Never mind that the thought of any kind of oil spill in the ANWR area is no better for the fact that it can be more easily remedies.

The future of your party is a recalcitrant unwillingness to change on all fronts. Even your so-called Tea Party Reformers are have the same repackaged talking points.

You don’t get to come back with the same policies, the same ideology, and say that you’re not responsible. You’re basically telling us that you still want to be responsible, and no, you don’t want to have to change your policies to be given back that responsibility. With your obstruction obviously curtailing the other party’s ability to change things, the question becomes, when did your people stop being responsible for current policy? You’re doing everything you can to put yourself front and center in making sure the status quo remains.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at June 2, 2010 10:37 PM
Comment #301553

Stephen the polls may say that now but give it a few more months of Democrat spending we’ll see what they say then. People don’t want status quo they want results, something Democrats nor Republicans have been able to give.

Posted by: MAG at June 2, 2010 11:21 PM
Comment #301556

SD:

You guys on the left declared SP to be the future of the republican party, not us. We simply said, she was a breath of fresh air in politics.

You state the results of polls and yet you fail to realize polls show the majority of Americans holding to moderate/conservative idealogies. The republicans would never have lost elections, if they had stuck with these principles. The dems didn’t win because America wanted to become a bigger government/socialist nation.

1. 65% of Americans think we are headed the wrong direction.
2. 60% favor repeal of obamacare.
3. 67% believe military should protect our borders.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

Now if you don’t want to believe Rasmussen on how Americans feel about the direction of the country, then read these polls:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html

RCP has an average of 72% who dissaprove of the job Congress is doing. Guess who is in charge?

Gallup has new low approval rating for the messiah (BHO) at 46%. Is that Bushes fault too? Get a life, and smell the roses.

Posted by: Beretta9 at June 2, 2010 11:39 PM
Comment #301557
You know what WR, most people don’t know or care about the difference

This is the equivalent to putting fingers in your ears and yelling lalalalalala.

Maybe it would be beneficial for people to read up Keynesian theory or take an introductory economics course.

unemployment keeps climbing

Not True
With GDP growing very strongly and the Stock Market doing pretty well, the unemployment rate will be in much better shape 6 months from now. It’s a lagging indicator, but it’s just turning the corner now. I don’t think it would’ve been possible to do any better given the state of the economy in January, 2009.

You don’t have any idea how scared americans are, do you???
Maybe so. The debt-to-GDP ratio was higher in the 1940s and the world didn’t come to an end, not even close. Is there a problem with the current level of national debt? There certainly is. Is the problem imminent? No, right now our creditors in Asia have very little choice when it comes to purchasing our debt. China’s economy is dependent on a strong dollar and they will do everything they can to keep the dollar strong. If the Chinese & others stop buying our debt it’ll be bad news for both of our economies. The current situation is almost an economic equivalent to the old MAD situation with the USSR. The way to get out of it will be to reduce our debt by balancing the budget. I have zero confidence in the ability of the GOP or any other Tea Party sponsored politicians balancing our budget. I have some doubts that the Democrats in Congress will be able to accomplish a balanced budget by mid-decade, however their ability to do so is much greater than the alternative.

Is the Democratic Party going to have a rough time this November?
I think the GOP will pick up plenty of seats in the House & Senate, no doubt about that. Whether the GOP will be strong enough to gain a majority remains to be seen as anti-incumbent attitudes are prevalent on both sides.

Posted by: Warped Reality at June 2, 2010 11:53 PM
Comment #301562

It is a simple and clever postulation put forth by Obama. Go forward with us, or go backward with the Republicans. Sometimes the simplest of things are the hardiest, like bacteria or viruses. Sometimes, the simplest of things are vastly too simple to solve complex issues. We shall see.

Obama announced expanded off shore drilling just months before the Great BP Catastrophe. Sometimes those who wish to take us forward get confused about their direction. That was certainly the case with Obama on this issue. Nice to see he has found his compass again on fossil fuels.

Now, if he can get that compass to point the way forward toward a separation of corporations and government/politics, we might truly move further along toward the promised land.

Posted by: David R. Remer at June 3, 2010 12:49 AM
Comment #301566

C&J,

“When the Democrats took over in 2006, the economy was okay. It has been down hill since then”

Good try. However, everybody now knows that in 2006 an unsustainable bubble economy was about to burst. The Bush administration and Republicans own the Great Recession. The Obama administration and the Democrats will live or die on their ability to engineer a sustainable recovery.

Posted by: Rich at June 3, 2010 5:34 AM
Comment #301570

“President Obama is misstating the opposition position.”

How so C&J? It seems to me he has hit the nail on the head and has done so succinctly.

From Paul’s post, the text of the speech:

“But to be fair, a good deal of the other party’s opposition to our agenda has also been rooted in their sincere and fundamental belief about government.”

Very descriptive of Conservative ideology and the opposition to the policies of this administration the past 2 years is it not?

” It’s a belief that government has little or no role to play in helping this nation meet our collective challenges.”

For conservatives this is the equivalent to the bumper sticker “small government”. Again very descriptive.

” It’s an agenda that basically offers two answers to every problem we face: more tax breaks for the wealthy and fewer rules for corporations.”

The nail on the head, for conservatives this is cut taxes and deregulation. Certainly there can be no denial of these mainstays of conservative ideology.


“…As November approaches, leaders in the other party will campaign furiously on the same economic argument they’ve been making for decades. Fortunately, we don’t have to look back too many years to see how it turns out. For much of the last ten years, we tried it their way. They gave tax cuts that weren’t paid for to millionaires who didn’t need them. They gutted regulations, and put industry insiders in charge of industry oversight. They shortchanged investments in clean energy and education; in research and technology. And despite all their current moralizing about the need to curb spending, this is the same crowd who took the record $237 billion surplus that President Clinton left them and turned it into a record $1.3 trillion deficit.”


Oops sorry about the president truthing us guys, but these are the facts that fly in the face of conservative ideology but facts none the less.

“So we already know where their ideas led us.”

Again we are still living the great recession, deny it as you wish but it is a fact.

“And now we have a choice as a nation. We can return to the failed economic policies of the past, or we can keep building a stronger future. We can go backward, or we can keep moving forward.”

Well here is the time to tell the American people what the cons plan is going into the future. Last time out it was “more of the same”. What has changed?

Posted by: j2t2 at June 3, 2010 8:39 AM
Comment #301578

MAG-
Besides the stimulus, which was intended to be a sudden, sharp shot in the arm to the economy, Democrats have hardly created the kind of spending increases that Republicans did, when they had all the cards. Odd, isn’t that?

The main contributors to the deficit at this point are Republican-passed programs, Republicans started and perseverated wars, and Republican-pushed tax cuts, combined with the revenue drop brought on by the economic collapse.

What are Obama’s contributions? The stimulus, with arguably works against further revenue drop associated with extra unemployment, and a measly three percent increase in spending.

Given the choice and the opportunity, Democrats have been more austere than the Republicans given the chance. Perhaps its because we aren’t so arrogantly stuck up about our reputation as fiscally prudent, and feel we have to prove it through action, rather than the words Republicans throw around with abandon.

As for results? Democrats would be getting more results, passing more aid for the unemployed doing a ****load more for the people if they didn’t have to drag the Republicans around on their backs. It’s not a matter of equal blame here, which is the Republican’s and Right Wing’s way of spreading their horrible reputation to others to neutralize the political disadvantage it carries. It’s a matter of one party doing everything it can to make sure a dissenting view of government to their own doesn’t take hold, and that they don’t get shown up on the very issues they’ve relied upon for years to get people to elect them.

Beretta9-
Nice to see you’ve got numbers from your party approved polling outfit. Complete with bonus house effect!

You always argue from polls. I’d say, I’ll let you have your polls now. I’ll let you have your fallacy of popular appeal. You’re always appealling to that, and your people only seem to appeal to the polls after you’ve done everything in your power to poison public opinion on the matter.

But you know what else? Those corporations whose interests your people so eagerly defend are ultimately going to **** you over, so eventually, the polls will turn our way. That’s how we got Healthcare finally through. And something tells me that Democrats will be able to push through a much stricter climate change bill, thanks to BP’s collosal catastrophe.

Those people who you saw fit to grant such wonderful freedoms will again and again abuse it, and when they abuse it, you will be the last folks with the political positioning to do anything about it. We can come to the rescue, and sooner or later, the party will filter out those who are unwilling to do this. Look at Blanche Lincoln’s political trouble if you don’t believe me.

Your biggest trouble is that the status quo you seek to protect is a hated one, and you only protect it by completely distorting the facts. Democrats, if they’re of the stronger strain, will be much better able to challenge that status quo, and get support for changing it. Why else are your Republican Senators so unwilling to filibuster financial reform? They’d get crushed if they did that.

Democrats, whatever short term losses they sustain, have the freedom to actually solve problems. You don’t. No matter what, you’re forced to support the very people and situations that Americans hate. You can’t lie to them forever. You can’t hide the fact that your party is unapologetically apologetic for the corporations that today are popular with absolutely no-one.

Your party’s taken the Wall Street Derivative approach to elections, leveraging a ****load of hatred and partisan rancor into an electoral recovery.

But all you will succeed in doing, ultimately, is putting the country’s eyes back on you. Back on a party paralyzed by it’s political dogmatism.

What makes you think you will be judged any better for your stubborn unwillingness to be part of the solution if you regain the majority, or the White House?

You’ve had your fun being irresponsible. Now it goes downhill from here, as you have to face the fact that your party no longer has what it takes to adapt to a new and changing world.

Posted by: Stephen Daugherty at June 3, 2010 12:33 PM
Comment #301581

Beretta9,

You know what WR, most people don’t know or care about the difference,

Nothing like ignorance as a defense.

As I said in the Republican column, until the Republican Party begins to recognize, that there are legitimate roles for government based on real outcomes and real effort, and stops a calorie/content free strategy of PR and spin, they are a lost party. They cannot attract intelligent candidates with any kind of integrity as long as their platform excludes reality.

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.
- Abraham Lincoln


“You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on.”
- George W. Bush

How far the party has fallen.

Posted by: gergle at June 3, 2010 12:58 PM
Comment #301582

Stephen, what are you going to do when you no longer can blame Republicans for all the ills we are facing now? “You’ve had your fun being irresponsible.” So now it’s Democrats turn to be irresponsible. Come on Stephen both parties have been irresponsible, both parties have screwed up this economy, and both parties haven’t a clue on how to fix it. You can defend your party all you want, but sooner or later you will come to the conclusion that they are just as screwed up as the other.

Posted by: MAG at June 3, 2010 1:07 PM
Comment #301597


This elections results will be based on the economy and jobs.

Posted by: jlw at June 3, 2010 3:57 PM
Comment #301605

jlw, truer words never spoken.

SD; more liberal rant, blah, blah, blah

Polls mean something if the left uses them. They don’t mean anything if the right uses them. blah, blah, blah…

Posted by: Beretta9 at June 3, 2010 6:45 PM
Comment #301607

Washington will spend $30,543 per household in 2010—an increase of $5,000 per household in just two years. Federal spending and deficits are increasing at levels unseen since World War II.

Over the last decade, Entitlement spending on programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security has reached a record 14 percent of GDP;

Discretionary spending has expanded 79 percent faster than inflation as a result of large defense and domestic spending hikes;

Anti-poverty spending increased 89 percent faster than inflation;

K–12 education spending rose 219 percent;

Veterans spending grew 107 percent;

and Medicare jumped 81 percent.

More than 41 cents of every dollar Washington spends in 2010 will be borrowed. This year alone, Washington is projected to spend $3,618 billion, tax $2,118 billion out of the economy, and run a $1,500 billion deficit. The President’s budget plan shows annual deficits averaging just under $1,000 billion for the next decade—a level of borrowing that would cause the national debt to double.

Rising spending—not low revenues—is driving the long-term budget deficits. By 2020, spending is projected to be 6.2 percent of GDP above the historical average, while projected 2020 revenues are 0.2 percent of GDP above the historical average. Thus, the entire expanded budget deficit will be caused by rising spending, rather than by falling revenues—even if the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts are extended.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 3, 2010 7:08 PM
Comment #301610

Royal Flush said: “Rising spending—not low revenues—is driving the long-term budget deficits”.

Illogical! That is like saying, if it weren’t for life, there would be no death. Revenues = Spending = NO DEFICIT! Ergo, raising revenues to equal spending, or, lowering spending to equal revenues, or, a combination of both, eliminates deficits. Your argument is logically and arithmetically invalid.

Also, a vast majority of government spending is circulated through the private sector economy, sustaining and creating jobs.

No question health care spending has to drop considerably if future deficits are to be halted. But, the Republocrats opposed the only plan that would have reduced those costs. That ship has sailed with the entirely inadequate health care reform bill shaped by BOTH Democrats and Republicans. Yes, Republicans opposition to any government sponsored health insurance shaped the legislation to compromise against the single payer non-profit public option, which could have driven costs down and saved deficit spending on Medicare and Medicaid going forward. Lest you forget, the vast majority of health care inflation has been in the private sector, not the government health care sector.

Posted by: David R. Remer at June 3, 2010 8:24 PM
Comment #301613

Mr. Remer I hate to correct your statement but if you read the entire paragraph you will notice that both spending and revenue were projected using historical averages. Do you have a better measuring stick? I’ll will explain this paragraph in greater detail if you still don’t understand what it means.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 3, 2010 8:40 PM
Comment #301620

Royal Flush,

There appears to be a basic misunderstanding of mathematics in your statement. David’s answer explained that principle.
Projections are projections not facts, and not particularly good at predicting either revenue or deficits. But the more basic problem is your assumption that one drives the other. These are related factors in an equation. Revenue-Spending = Deficit or Surplus.

On a more complex analysis, one has to understand what drives revenue and spending. A growing economy increases revenue, even if taxation stays the same. Spending by the federal government in periods of contraction is necessary to stimulate growth in the economy, temporarily expanding deficits. The factor effecting this in a contracting or expanding economy is called money supply. Without this spending, a deeper and more serious contraction occurs which increases deficits even more. This is basic Keynesian macro economics, as demonstrated by the Great Depression and WWII. While there are fringe economists who believe that this economic theory is wrong, by far the vast majority of mainstream economists accept this model. While evidence is not complete at this point, there is evidence this occurred during the contraction of 08-09.

This is why macro economics is not applicable to comparisons of a single person spending beyond his means. The same rules do not apply.

Posted by: gergle at June 3, 2010 10:47 PM
Comment #301642

Gergle wrote; “There appears to be a basic misunderstanding of mathematics in your statement. David’s answer explained that principle.
Projections are projections not facts, and not particularly good at predicting either revenue or deficits. But the more basic problem is your assumption that one drives the other. These are related factors in an equation. Revenue-Spending = Deficit or Surplus.”

OH Please…government and business use projections all the time. Investors use historical facts combined with current assumptions to make future projections. Twist it, turn it, spin it, parse it all you wish but the “fact” remains that…

Rising spending—not low revenues—is driving the long-term budget deficits

Obviously, the liberal/socialist can’t admit to this as it destroys their entire premise for ever increasing spending.

Today, Barry is dancing a jig claiming some 400,000 new jobs. Isn’t that just dandy. 95% of them are government jobs but what the hell…jobs are jobs, right? The market isn’t impressed as the DOW and other markets are falling. Investors and business people know that government jobs don’t add a penny to our GPD and certainly don’t increase our productivity. This is just more liberal/socialist pablem for the uneducated masses to absorb into their pea-brains.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 4, 2010 12:57 PM
Comment #301646

RF Yea 400,000 temporary census jobs. I heard on the News that only 41,000 private industry jobs were filled not a very good senario IMO.

Posted by: MAG at June 4, 2010 1:14 PM
Comment #301649

Royal Flush,

Unfortunately your response fails to accept basic math. Good luck with that.

Royal Flush, If you can find an investor who knows with any certainty the price of a stock or average in 6 months, you should listen to everything he says, because you’ll be a trillionaire in 6 months.(Most likely you’ll end up broke, because you would be a sucker to buy that)

Projections for 6 months have some degree of accuracy. Projections for 10 years or 20 years are nearly meaningless, given the unknowns in that period of time. The trends can still be valuable info.

Long term deficits are driven by a difference in revenue and spending. That’s simple mathematics. Moving either number towards the other makes the deficit smaller.

That you cannot understand the largest source of projected deficits depends on assumptions about spending and assumptions about revenues, which are mostly dependent on economic expansion or contraction, is troubling.

It is obvious to anyone that we have long term deficit problems that are sizable, but not unmanageable. Raising retirement age, means testing benefits and getting health care costs under control are big factors in controlling spending. Cutting waste in the military is another big source. Getting the economy growing is the biggest factor in raising revenues.

Understanding the Keynesian circumstances we are in is important in any discussion of long term debt. Spin it, twist it, or ignore mathematical reality, it is still a fact. Just screaming that it’s all about spending is a great rant, but useless for anything but venting. What needs to be cut? How do you propose to get it done? What percent of the vote did Ron Paul get again? Otherwise, you are just making noise. Surely, you aren’t proposing a George Bush Republican would do it. Thus far, he’s been the worst proponent of spending we’ve had in office.

The sad truth is that this tired old rant is what failed in 2008. People now understand that this is nothing but political spew. Jobs and the economy will be the deciding factor in 2012.

Posted by: gergle at June 4, 2010 1:43 PM
Comment #301652


Congress of the United States
House of Representatives

Dear J,

America Speaking Out is an effort to engage Americans across the country and give them a voice in creating a new agenda for Congress. Please join me at an “America Speaking Out” listening session in Scioto County on June 7, 2010.

This is an opportunity for you to share your concerns about the future of our nation….I look forward to bringing your concerns and ideas back to Washington.

If I am allowed to “Speak Out” here is what I will say:

Congresswoman Schmidt, the greatest problem facing our country is our government and it’s unwillingness to hear “America Speaking Out.” Instead, you and your colleagues have shoveled “We The People” a steady diet of What Is Best For The Corporations Is What Is Best For America.

IMO, the very best thing that you and most of your colleagues can do for America is resign so that the “People” might have an opportunity to have representation that is truly interested in listening to “America Speaking Out.”

Posted by: jlw at June 4, 2010 2:00 PM
Comment #301654

gergle, I will just ignore everything else you wrote and just respond to this statement you made; “Jobs and the economy will be the deciding factor in 2012.”

Heartily agree. And, the public won’t be fooled into believing government jobs count for anything that improves the economy. Barry’s inability to get an early lead on the oil spill is very damaging to him. It just proves that he is no more adept at handling a catastrophic event than his predecesor. And, the administrations attempt to persuade candidates to withdraw from races by dangling government job carrots in front of them is just beginning to simmer on the hot stove. By election time it may be a full boil. Barry and the dems will have their hands full trying to spin illegal immigration in a way that will appease the 70+% of Americans who want it stopped…now, and forever.

On the bright side for the dems, they can point to the pork and bribe laden health care bill they passed which remains opposed by over 60% of the electorate. And, of course, there is the wild card tea party members and who knows what they might do to become spoilers for both dems and reps.

I can tell you for certain, that as a conservative, I believe any politician running for federal office who is not in a very secure district or state will be leaning right. That’s a good thing…don’t you think?

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 4, 2010 2:31 PM
Comment #301666

Royal Flush,

Most people ignore math in school, too. That’s another issue that should bother real conservatives.

Given that leaning right or left is a pejorative statement, I have no idea.

If you mean ranting about illegals, or religious persecution, or “ragheads” like some South Carolinians do, or going after terrorists, not particularly.

If you mean being honest about economics, and controlling health care costs through a conservative single payer system, which reforms medicare and cuts hospital district taxes, and cutting the bribe laden defense contracts, and re regulating things like wall street, and the oil industry, sure.

Us real conservatives understand the meaning of liberal democracy, don’t go around flag waving and screaming about abortion. We’re a bit more concerned about good government.

Posted by: gergle at June 4, 2010 3:43 PM
Comment #301670


“I believe any politician running for federal office who is not in a very secure district or state will be leaning right. That’s a good thing…don’t you think?”

Well, lets consider jobs. Job growth, during the Bush Administration and the Republican Congress, was 2%. More jobs were lost in the first year of the Bush recession than Bush and the Republicans produced in 8 years. And that abysmal performance included 3 huge tax cuts that were supposed to produce jobs. Refresh my memory, how many trillions in debt did the “fiscally responsible” right hand our children?

Since this country has been leaning right for so long that America has a huge list to the right, perhaps Royal Flush means, lean further to the right over by that iceberg.

We have given the center, the right, and the far right their opportunity, for more than 3 decades now, to prove that they can run the government and the economy in an efficient manner beneficial to all Americans and they have failed us miserably.

It is time for Americans to shed these centrist liberals and their right wing allies and vote progressive.

So America, do it, vote for a true change in government. Vote progressive, put the multi-national corporations through the shredder. Watch the competition and jobs come out the other end.

Posted by: jlw at June 4, 2010 4:24 PM
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The Consequence of Runaway Spending: Budget Deficits

From 1989 through 2008, annual budget deficits averaged $210 billion (adjusted for inflation).
President Bush handed President Obama a $1.2 trillion deficit for 2009. Obama added more than $200 billion to it.
President Bush’s budget deficits averaged $447 billion. President Obama’s budget shows average deficits of $851 billion over the eight years he would serve if he wins a second term.
President Obama’s budget would double the publicly held national debt by 2020.

Posted by: Royal Flush at June 4, 2010 5:39 PM
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Royal Flush, that is bad news and proof positive that the people need an alternative besides liberals and conservatives.

This is the crap the people have to put up with. Two power hungry groups that can do nothing but make claims about no matter how bad our horrible record is, it’s not quite as horrible as the others.

Posted by: jlw at June 4, 2010 11:27 PM
Comment #301995

Royal Flush, you can’t compare actual HISTORICAL Bush deficits to Obama’s FUTURE Deficits, which Obama has not come to yet. Obama is as concerned about the deficits and debt as ANY president would be in his shoes at this time. What he will/can do about them, remains to be seen.

Any projections have to be based on Obama changing NOTHING from his Great Recession era budgets. That of course, is a ludicrous speculation if the economy continues to recover.

Get back to me in 2017, and we can compare Bush’s 8 years of deficits and debt growth to Obama’s 8 years, and then, we can also compare how well off our nation is economically at the end of the Bush 8 years compared to the end of the Obama 8 years. Then we can compare apples to apples, and oranges to oranges.

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